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Galindez writes: "How many Americans will die as a result of Trump's pronouncement? The other question is how many Republicans' careers in Congress will die with Obamacare? I hope the answer to the latter is many."

Senator Joni Ernst at a town hall in Des Moines, Iowa, on March 17. (photo: AP)
Senator Joni Ernst at a town hall in Des Moines, Iowa, on March 17. (photo: AP)

Trump Declares Obamacare Dead

By Scott Galindez, Reader Supported News

19 March 17


ow many Americans will die as a result of Trump's pronouncement? The other question is how many Republicans’ careers in Congress will die with Obamacare? I hope the answer to the latter is many.

I was listening to a GOP congressman the other day talking about his $12,000 deductible. I am not sure what state he was buying insurance in, but if he is dumb enough to choose a plan with a $12,000 deductible, then he shouldn't be spending our money in Congress.

Let us hope this is another one of Donald Trump's lies. He did tell us that more people attended his inauguration than any other. He did say that Obama was listening to his phone calls (Of course the NSA was – they listen to everyone.). Then there are the millions of illegal votes, so I guess I shouldn't be too worried about what the Donald says.

I am worried, though, that Obamacare will be repealed without an adequate replacement. The GOP says Obamacare is redistribution of wealth from the wealthy to the poor. They want the money back. They want to take from the poor and give it back to the rich.

The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office estimates that repealing Obamacare will save the government over 300 billion dollars. Of course it does. The savings all come on the backs of the poor. Most of the savings will come from ending the expanded support from the federal government to states for Medicaid expansion. The rest of the savings will come from ending subsidies to help individuals purchase insurance. So the cuts are taking support away from the people who need it to afford insurance.

Senator Joni Ernst (R-Iowa), after getting grilled at town hall meetings in Cedar Rapids and Des Moines, told reporters that she and a number of her colleagues are undecided on the Republican bill to replace Obamacare. Ernst said she was concerned that people who need the assistance would fall through the cracks. While that sounds promising, she also said that Obamacare was not sustainable.

Ernst's comments do show that there is a chance to kill the repeal and replacement bill that is scheduled for a vote in the House on Thursday. If Joni Ernst has concerns, then it is possible to flip three Republican senators.

GOP senators are now weighing the political cost of voting for or against the legislation. A vote against repeal will be seen as a betrayal by my many who voted for them. A vote to repeal Obamacare might just hurt more of their constituents than they lose if they vote against repeal. My guess is the safe route is to punt. Vote against this effort while vowing to repeal Obamacare when an adequate replacement bill is presented. This isn't the bill that kills Obamacare without killing the careers of many Republican lawmakers.

Scott Galindez attended Syracuse University, where he first became politically active. The writings of El Salvador's slain archbishop Oscar Romero and the on-campus South Africa divestment movement converted him from a Reagan supporter to an activist for Peace and Justice. Over the years he has been influenced by the likes of Philip Berrigan, William Thomas, Mitch Snyder, Don White, Lisa Fithian, and Paul Wellstone. Scott met Marc Ash while organizing counterinaugural events after George W. Bush's first stolen election. Scott moved to Des Moines in 2015 to cover the Iowa Caucus.

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+35 # chemtex2611 2017-03-19 17:26
No Congressman buys Health Insurance. They have a Golden Package of Health Care as well as probably a clinic and doctor in attendance at the Capitol.

He was simply blowing smoke with confetti and sparkles. Laugh in his face for thinking you believe what he told you.

And he voted himself another raise recently and is making about $187,000 per year. The median salary for all US workers is $38,000, where it has been for about 15 years, and the median household total income in the US is $50,000, where it has been for the past 20 years. Medan
+2 # Scott Galindez 2017-03-19 19:57
Members of Congress do purchase Health Insurance on the exchanges. It was one of the last things added to the ACA at the end in 2008. Republicans thought they were making a demand that Dems wouldn't call them on but they did. Federal Government employees have their own plans but not members of Congress....
+1 # Scott Galindez 2017-03-19 23:44
Members of Congress do buy insurance on the exchanges. That being said, they get a substantial subsidy ... All other Federal employees have a separate healthcare program, but members of Congress and their staff but insurance on the DC exchange. I used to purchase a plan on that exchange that was 12,000 deductable...I didnt get a 72% subsidy either...
+30 # chemtex2611 2017-03-19 17:28
Why don't they put us all on THEIR plan ? !
+2 # Caliban 2017-03-20 00:27
Excellent idea, #chemtex2611. But it would sound even better coming from some members of Congress. However, I don't think I have seen such a motion on the House or Senate floor..

So, for now, I would propose a simple trade-off -- that a vote FOR repeal of the ACA should be answered by several million votes AGAINST the reelection of any Representative or Senator who votes to rob affordable healthcare from the rest of us.
+26 # chemtex2611 2017-03-19 17:33
So, let's see, does the $300 billion savings (that is only $1000 per person) include the loss of health insurance company jobs and the contribution they make to Medicare and Social Security? Does it count the cost of the sick being treated as charity patients in local hospitals?
Does it count the disruption of families who lose a mother or father to death? Does it count the cost of your in laws all coming to live with you while they die? Does it count the loss of your wife's salary while she nurses your in laws until they die? Probably not.
+34 # davidh7426 2017-03-19 18:05
If they vote to repeal Obamacare with nothing to go in it's place, and the people start dying…

It wont be just their political careers that'll be in danger, it may well be their lives and the lives of their families.

Because there'll be a LOT of angry people out there… A lot of whom will feel that enough is enough.
+6 # Jim Rocket 2017-03-19 22:31
But will the Trumpeters be able to figure out who screwed them? Their conscience (Fox News) will be telling them that Obama and the media did it.
+1 # davidh7426 2017-03-20 18:22
Once people start dying I'm not sure it'll matter which side your on. Just being involved in politics in any way could make you a target for peoples anger. And that anger may well turn out to be lethal.
0 # Kiwikid 2017-03-21 00:55
That's my worry too.
+41 # angryspittle 2017-03-19 18:21
Joni Ernst should return to her true calling, castrating pigs, and she should start with Louie Gohmert and go from there.
+17 # economagic 2017-03-19 18:43
"The GOP says Obamacare is redistribution of wealth from the wealthy to the poor. They want the money back."

If they follow through with this proposition they are fools, an all too likely possibility but one that certainly could be their undoing. That redistribution is the price the people of great wealth must pay to those from whom they stole it in order to maintain their position, and ultimately in order not to be eaten.

Good analysis here, with specifically relevant comments by Paul Jay about 12 paragraphs down and again 7-8 paragraphs from the bottom.
-1 # Robbee 2017-03-19 20:06
scott asks - How many Americans will die as a result of Trump's pronouncement? - zero - rump always says his replacement will provide healthcare for "everybody" at a fraction of the cost americans pay for healthcare - this is doable, but only with single-payer!

better question -
How many Americans will die as a result of Trump failing to veto a repuke plan other than single-payer?

years ago michael moore (sicko) estimated, interpreting certain published data - 80,000 per year

* note that death panels in 19 repuke states, that refuse to expand medicaid to their citizens, already sentence perhaps tens of thousands to death every year - the penalty for living in states with up and running death panels, a/k/a repuke legislatures - but no member of congress - bernie, elizabeth, are you listening? - has ever asked the CBO to estimate how many uninsured, due to lack of health insurance, die every year! - scott? what is wrong with this picture?
+4 # mh1224jst 2017-03-19 20:40
According to the CBO report, government outlays (payments for recipients go donw $1.226 trillion by 2026, while the svings would offset the deficit by $337 billion. The tax breaks for the rich (euph. called "Total changes in revenues," are estimated at $883 billion over this period.

Thee will of course be extra costs for those who lose their insurance, including higher coverage cost, the cost of uninsured treatment, and the costs of poorer health, including death.

The rape of the Commons continues.
+6 # futhark 2017-03-19 21:23
A $12,000 deductible is nothing to someone with an annual income 20 times that or more, but to someone on Social Security, it is tantamount to not having insurance at all or a death sentence. Giving people with incomes so low they pay virtually no income tax tax credits is beyond ludicrous.
+2 # Barbell 2017-03-19 22:12
Republican politician's worst nightmare: votes for this bill and it passes. Next worst; votes for this bill and it fails. Next worst: votes against and it passes. Either way, the 2018 mid-term elections will wipe out a great many of these gutless cowards, making way for a Democratic Congress to impeach both Trump and Pence and install the Democratic Speaker of the House as President. Problem solved.
+7 # swimdoc 2017-03-19 22:40
Regarding how members of Congress get their health insurance:
The ACA requires members of Congress and their staffs to purchase health insurance through an ACA exchange. As a result, the exchange in Washington DC has a rare Platinum level plan with an actuarial value of 90 or 95% (as compared with 70% in the Silver level).
Because previously the government paid a generous portion of the total premium, and they all earn way too much to be eligible for subsidies, they screamed loudly about how much higher their premiums would be on the ACA exchange. They persuaded the government (that's us, the taxpayers) to continue to pay part of their premium - I don't know how big a part they got us taxpayers to underwrite, but it's likely in the neighborhood of $250/month.
Still, these people all have comfortable incomes, staff as well as members of Congress, so most of them can afford the Platinum plan or plans offered.
If we moved to an Expanded and Improved Medicare for All, we would all have access to at least Platinum level coverage and the peace of mind in knowing that we'll be taken care of if illness strikes. That's what residents of most of the rest of the developed world have - Everybody In, Nobody Out!
+3 # vitobonespur 2017-03-20 00:57
"Trump Declares Obamacare Dead"

I wish it were vice versa.

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