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King writes: "Our visible, tangible opposition to Donald Trump simply does not have the unified fierceness he deserves."

Donald Trump is scheduled to become our next President in less than three weeks. (photo: Don Emmert/AFP/Getty)
Donald Trump is scheduled to become our next President in less than three weeks. (photo: Don Emmert/AFP/Getty)

We're Not Opposing Donald Trump With the Unified Fierceness He Deserves

By Shaun King, New York Daily News

04 January 17


man who some believe to be a pretty terrible human being is scheduled to become our next President in less than three weeks. I won't make yet another rundown of all of the awful things he has said and done. I've done that a dozen times. Pretty much every reputable news outlet in the country has covered Trump's lies, deceit, failed commitments, his unethical business dealings, and his personal admissions on mistreating and sexually assaulting women.

We knew he was a bad man before he was elected. Since he's been elected, his character continues to fail us as a nation. He continues to pour profuse praise on Vladimir Putin. He repeatedly tweets vindictive messages to his "enemies" like he is some villain in a Marvel movie. In ways that we've never seen before from an elected President, he attacks individual journalists, union leaders, actors, comedy shows and Broadway musicals. He openly takes credit for business deals and jobs won that he had little to do with. He recklessly rambles on about nuclear weapons and arms races like it's all a big game. It isn't.

This is all very real. In less than three weeks, this man will pivot from being the President-elect to the President of the United States. He will occupy the Oval Office. He will have the nuclear codes. The FBI, the CIA, and all of our military might will be at his command. With Steve Bannon, who some consider the most offensive, sexist, bigoted, ill-tempered hot heads in the country by Trump's side, as his chief strategist, we are about to enter into a dangerous and troubling new era of American history.

I believe you feel it coming. I believe you see it coming.

The only way what's about to happen is anything other than a complete and total disaster is if Donald Trump's very nature shape shifts into something altogether different. His core values, his essence, the very fabric of his humanity would have to morph and transform in a miraculous manner for us to avoid anything other than calamity.

If he operates the government like he operates his marriages and relationships with women, we are in trouble.

If he operates the government like he operated Trump University, which just settled a multi-million dollar lawsuit with its students for overpromising and under-delivering, we are in trouble.

Yet, as I look out over the country, our visible, tangible opposition to Donald Trump simply does not have the unified fierceness he deserves.

Maybe we are exhausted or overwhelmed or so bewildered that we don't quite know what to do? That's a luxury we cannot afford.

Maybe we are waiting for the Democratic Party to rise up and oppose him for us? That simply isn't going to happen. The Democratic Party is in shambles. Bill and Hillary Clinton are not going to be opposition leaders. As she takes long walks in the forest and as Bill calls Donald to wish him well, I think we've seen clues of what they will be in a Trump administration. Vice Presidential candidate Tim Kaine has all but faded into the abyss. Will Barack and Michelle Obama, who opposed Trump so masterfully during the final weeks of the election, and seemed to be speaking from the heart while doing so, break tradition and vocally oppose his presidency? Or will they operate like most other former first families and simply give Trump the space to be himself?

Whatever the case, if what we see right now is a sign of the opposition we will be offering to Donald Trump, it's not enough. We must wake out of our Trump-induced stupor and fill the streets not by the dozens, or hundreds, but by the thousands and millions. If we honestly oppose this man like we say we do on Twitter, we must do more than tweet about him. He's about to do much more than tweet. He is about to sign executive orders and back legislation which will be far more problematic than his social media shenanigans. And if all we have are retweets and Facebook likes, we will lose in spectacular fashion.

South Korea should be our role model. For months on end, in fierce opposition to corruption with their President, millions of people filled the streets in protest. At first, what it would accomplish was not clear, but the people knew that corruption necessitates opposition. As the opposition grew and grew and grew, it gripped the nation and eventually broke the back of the administration, causing the ouster of their President.

Trump deserves this type of opposition. It will not grow from the establishment, but from the will and energy of the people. If Donald Trump is going to be opposed, it's going to come from the people and it must start now. your social media marketing partner


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+37 # DogSoldier 2017-01-04 14:16
I don't believe the American people have the courage to actively oppose the will of the US government. They have been brainwashed almost from birth. They have their illusion that this is actually a democracy. Half of them don't even pay attention to what's going on.

Nope, the wage slaves will just keep on doing as they've been doing. They don't want to rock the boat.
+33 # RadicalLeft 2017-01-04 18:26
You mean, about half of the participating electorate. How about the rest of us, more than half of potential voters?
+23 # DogSoldier 2017-01-04 19:04
Quoting RadicalLeft:
You mean, about half of the participating electorate. How about the rest of us, more than half of potential voters?

Only 54% of eligible voters actually vote. More than half of them are either partisan voters, LOTE voters or just do what their Pastor tells them to do. That doesn't leave very many in the electorate who seriously consider their choice.
+36 # Jaax88 2017-01-04 20:09
We do not need all the voters, just a few millions to march, sit in, monkey wrench the trumpian plans. Already some localities are reacting to resist those plans.
+9 # angelfish 2017-01-04 22:16
The Majority DID vote for Hillary, who WAS the Rightful President-Elect . Trump won ONLY because of an Ignorant, and Uncaring Populace and because of interference from one of our OWN Premier Enemies and the interference of our Own Government Officials whose Butts are being Lavishly Greased by the BIG Money (See 1%-ers). There WAS a time in this Country when, instead of celebrating a Victory, Trump would have been spending his Retirement Years in Leavenworth! Would that some REAL Patriots would Belly up to the Bar and deliver some HARD Truths to these Treasonous, Self-Serving Cretins!
+12 # goodsensecynic 2017-01-05 00:10
Don't forget the intervention of FBI Director James Comey, whose blathering about an allegedly new investigation into Hillary's "damned emails" just days before the election probably influenced more votes that the Wikileaks revelation about the ignominious assault that the Clinton people made against the only decent/sane candidate and the "rightful" president, Bernie Sanders.

O well, better luck next time ... if there is a next time.
0 # RLF 2017-01-06 08:40
Obama and his bush buddies. Guess he got used!
-1 # thekidde 2017-01-05 13:42
Agree. but lose the CAPS! They don't accomplish what you think - just make for a more difficult read.
+8 # revhen 2017-01-04 19:58
Infant Donnie has such a weak ego that he feeds on attention, negative or positive. Maybe just ignoring him is the best course of action -- or inaction.
+3 # HowardMH 2017-01-05 11:16
Go here and join the protest group against Trump. Even without much publicity over 675,000 have accessed the site. We are just getting started.
+1 # 2017-01-05 16:08
Sad but true, dog soldier. Also true that a majority voted against Trump and a plurality for Clinton, mainly as a lesser evil but still far above Trump, values and truth-wise. I don't think we can expect too much of the Clintons. I heard Carl Bernstein say the other day that Bill's coronary problems have worsened. And when I compare Hillary to 08, she has seemed more "low energy", probably cause of her concussion. (one of Trump's few true allegations!) Also she's probably alternatively beating herself for not doing a better job and not even winning the white female vote and feeling impotent rage towards Comey and others - cause both feelings would be justified.. Some Clinton haters on this blog have said that the Clinton's "wouldn't go away quietly" but it looks like the reverse is true, and we should let them!

I'd very much like the Obama's to be among the leaders of the fierce anti Trump opposition, but he's very into the dignity of the presidency.

So that leaves Bernie, OurRevolution and maybe Keith Ellison,to take the lead and fill the vacuum, which is great. But I also think the implicit message here is not to be too purist and welcome establishment Dems who are willing to fiercely oppose and resist.
-58 # mashiguo 2017-01-04 14:57
"If he operates the government like he operates his marriages and relationships with women, we are in trouble."

Why did the same not apply to Clinton?
...or even to Kennedy for that matter?

Give it up.
You believe too much of your own big lie.
Resist him and you strengthen his own internal narrative.
Steer him and you will get some of what you want.

And forget about the graft - it is everywhere always and forever.
0 # angelfish 2017-01-04 22:22
Quoting mashiguo:
"If he operates the government like he operates his marriages and relationships with women, we are in trouble."

Why did the same not apply to Clinton?
...or even to Kennedy for that matter?

Give it up.
You believe too much of your own big lie.
Resist him and you strengthen his own internal narrative.
Steer him and you will get some of what you want.

And forget about the graft - it is everywhere always and forever.

You forget the FACT that Trump is UN-STEERABLE and takes Counsel from NO-ONE, which makes him THE most Dangerous, Potentially Ruinous President-Elect to have EVER had the Opportunity to Destroy what was once the Greatest Thing that has ever Happened to the FREE World. So sad that THIS Troll will be the one to DESTROY us, BUT, "It's gonna be GREAT"!
+5 # Anonymot 2017-01-05 04:38
I'm not sure that Trump is not more steerable than he sounds. I would hope the Republican Establishment cannot tame him just because of the trembling Establishment fears: he openly wants no war, wants to get the so-called security-intell igence agencies back out of politics, and wants to use cooperation with the neocon scarecrows of Russia, China, and Iran. As I've been saying for a very long time, those are the roots of fascism in America.

On the other hand, what his weaknesses are are obvious. He's an old-fashioned rich, male chauvinist. That makes feminist and the gay community enraged. He does not begin to understand climate change and the looming environmental disaster that has already begun. He thinks business is a cure-all. His Harvard education has left him as illiterate and uncultured as any cracker from the backwoods of our country - in the style of W Bush and Obama on an evangelistic rant. These are all domestic issues that can be tampted down with opposition.

America's problem is that minds like Brennan, Clapper, Rice, and Powers run it. They and the Cheneys, Wolfowitzes, Bushes, and their kind have really run the country for decades. BOTH parties are incompetent and their roots are identical. They got us Trump as a reaction. NOW LET'S TRY TO STEER IT.

Fascism is not obligatory yet.
-2 # Walhalla 2017-01-04 22:39
Why did the same not apply to Clinton?
...or even to Kennedy for that matter?
Because Clinton and Kennedy were more attractive and appealing to FEMALES than fat, short-fingered Groper P-elect. Duh!!??
0 # angelfish 2017-01-04 23:31
Pardon me, but, in a word...Bull-Puc key! ALL of Bill's women were consenting Adults and Hillary is Smart, Experienced and MIGHT have brought back some of the same Success and Recoveries that Bill gave us. She is sensible, Pragmatic and Head and Shoulders ABOVE Trump in SO many ways, it's easy to lose count! Trump has MADE Himself Low, apparently NEVER being taught the Basic rules of Decency and Fair Play. He is, what he IS, and there is NOTHING that will improve him in ANY way, EXCEPT perhaps, an Act of God!
-2 # Radscal 2017-01-05 02:18
Ever heard of Jeffery Epstein?

That convicted child rapist and pimp didn't get much coverage in this election season. Probably because both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump were "friends" of his.

Billy flew on Jeff's "Lolita Express" private jet at least 26 times, and even visited Jeff's "Orgy Island" 6 times where underage boys and girls were held for the pleasure of Jeff's "friends." And I'm sure it has no special meaning that Billy refused Secret Service escorts when he went there.

Oh, and those "meaningless," "stolen" Podesta emails? Yeah, Tony Podesta has maintained his "friendship" with ol' Jeff even after he was released from prison for child rape.
+3 # librarian1984 2017-01-05 04:29
At least three women have accused Bill Clinton of rape, which means there are probably more.
+2 # Radscal 2017-01-05 15:52
Exactly. I've read that statistically, only about 1/4 of all rapes are reported. And that's way up from decades past.

And rape or any sexual allegations against Billy have been famously crushed, preemptively if possible, or through public humiliation, intimidation and bribery if necessary.
0 # angelfish 2017-01-06 22:05
Quoting Radscal:
Exactly. I've read that statistically, only about 1/4 of all rapes are reported. And that's way up from decades past.

And rape or any sexual allegations against Billy have been famously crushed, preemptively if possible, or through public humiliation, intimidation and bribery if necessary.

What about ALL the allegations of Child Rape and other assaults of Minors by Trump with his friend Mr. Epstein who is serving or has served Hard Time for his Crimes? Surely SOME of these allegations have SOME truth...? Out of his OWN mouth he stands convicted!
+1 # Radscal 2017-01-07 00:49
As I've written here, I have little doubt that Trump has raped children, through and with Jeffery Epstein, who was also a friend of Bill Clinton, and remains a friend of Tony Podesta.
+19 # Radscal 2017-01-04 15:23
I hope many people take active roles in protesting/resi sting Trump/Republica n policies. And the author is almost surely correct that the Democratic Party will not be a significant barrier. Not the neoliberal and war hawk factions which are the majority in Congress.

But I have to say that merely protesting the man (as abhorrent as we may think him to be) would only be counter-product ive. About half of the votes that were counted were cast for him. Many of those people held their noses and voted for his populist rhetoric or as a means to prevent war with Russia and continuing genocide in Syria and the Middle East/North Africa.

We should not make those people think we believe them to be all idiots, racists and in general "a basket of deplorables." That thinking and speaking got Trump elected, and backing into a corner those who hesitantly chose him as the lesser evil will not help us or them.
+21 # CTPatriot 2017-01-04 18:11
Agree. And I also think it needs to be noted that progressives should be a little bit suspicious of the demand for singular minded focus on resisting Trump. While we certainly need to resist some of his agenda, we also need to direct some of our energy towards taking over the Democratic Party. It certainly feels like this budding and well financed resistance movement I'm seeing is designed to distract us from the latter priority. In other words, a neoliberal protection racket at work.
+10 # Anonymot 2017-01-04 18:41
We will not take over the Democrat Party. The CIA owns it and they have the means and methods to keep it. Once they get over their shock of not having a backup plan, as usual, they will put their weight into action behind the scenes as they've done for decades. Bernie's token role is part of their plan to keep him from forming a 3rd party. Hillary will be back. There's money to be made.

The only thing that might be effective - if you can wrap your minds around it - is that Trump understands exactly what the role of the CIA has been politically and he wants to defang them. In terms of foreign policy, he's not as dumb as the Clintonites have pretended. That's why he won and she lost. Trump knew exactly what Hillary/CIA's no-fly zone in Syria targeted - not ISIS, but Russia. So guess who the dummies were.

Never underestimate your opponent. That's what Dumb is.
+10 # jdd 2017-01-04 19:15
For this website nothing is happening except Trump protests and the lies of the MSM. Example: yesterday's Washington Post had to eat crow, and retract its claim made last week that Russia had hacked a New England utility company, threatening black outs. The Post's front page article yesterday is titled, "Vermont Utility Apparently Isn't Target of Any Russian Hacking." The Post had incorrectly reported that the utility itself was hacked; that the malware was Russian-associa ted; and that the utility—Burling ton Electric—was at risk of black out.This is the same Washington Post, which, along with The New York Times, originated the assertion that Russia hacked computers of the DNC. Fake News.
In that connection, WikiLeaks founder and editor Julian Assange, previously heralded by RSN and liberals everywhere, has spoken out against this, saying that he is a "thousand-perce n"t sure that Russia did not provide WikiLeaks with hacked emails. "We can say, we have said, repeatedly over the last two months, that our source is not the Russian government, and is not a state party." Assange said this and more, in the first-ever cable TV interview given by Assange, and his pre-released comments are already getting wide attention internationally , causing havoc for the Obama crowd, including Republican Party Russo-phobes. Neither breaking story makes RSN, but this nobody from the Daily News gets top billing. One wonders.
+14 # economagic 2017-01-04 19:21
WaPo is owned by one of the richest men on the planet. NOT Rupert Murdoch, and possibly worse.
+13 # Radscal 2017-01-04 20:55
Yes. And when Bezos (who founded and was made filthy rich by Amazon) bought WaPo, Amazon got a huge contract from CIA.

As you know, I don't generally buy into the Grand Coincidence Theory of History.
+3 # RLF 2017-01-06 08:50
Amazon...the online Walmart!

Boycott, Boycott, Boycott!
+1 # Radscal 2017-01-06 20:19
Yes, Yes, Yes!
-4 # carytucker 2017-01-04 21:53
Quoting Anonymot:
We will not take over the Democrat Party. The CIA owns it and they have the means and methods to keep it. Once they get over their shock of not having a backup plan, as usual, they will put their weight into action behind the scenes as they've done for decades. Bernie's token role is part of their plan to keep him from forming a 3rd party. Hillary will be back. There's money to be made.

The only thing that might be effective - if you can wrap your minds around it - is that Trump understands exactly what the role of the CIA has been politically and he wants to defang them. In terms of foreign policy, he's not as dumb as the Clintonites have pretended. That's why he won and she lost. Trump knew exactly what Hillary/CIA's no-fly zone in Syria targeted - not ISIS, but Russia. So guess who the dummies were.

Never underestimate your opponent. That's what Dumb is.

Dumber is crediting your opponent with wisdom or judgment of which there is no evidence. Dumbest is attributing to the CIA any political skill whatsoever. Thuggery, yes, political engagement, no.
+6 # Anonymot 2017-01-05 05:07
Where does that put the CIA then? Every war they started and some political operative called President rubber stamped has been a total failure. American foreign policy has been the CIA since Korea.
+4 # librarian1984 2017-01-05 01:03

I so agree. The 'single minded focus' on Trump serves to distract progressives from fixing the DP (purging the neoliberals) -- but it also serves to separate Trump from the GOP.

He is not an anomaly. He is the epitome of GOP regressive policy and we should not neglect watching them because we're so focussed on Trump.

But right now it's the DP that requires our attention.
+4 # CTPatriot 2017-01-05 04:02
Anonymot made an interesting and frightening comment suggesting that we can never take over the Democratic Party because it's controlled by the CIA. Could be correct. Could be a losing battle for other reasons, like the influence of big money and the fact that the party is so thoroughly infiltrated and controlled by DLC neoliberals who will do anything and everything (as proven by WikiLeaks) to maintain their power and control.

Starting a new party has huge obstacles as well because both major parties have colluded to takeover the entire political process in this country making it nearly impossible for a third party to have a chance, at least for the presidency. My favorite example is how the presidential debate committee used to be an independent entity but the two parties managed to infiltrate and take it over. Now THEY call all the shots about who gets to be included without challenge.
+1 # Anonymot 2017-01-05 09:38
I strongly suggest reading THE DEVIL'S CHESSBOARD by David Talbot. It will resolve any questions about who runs America. It is long, complex, brilliant, full of unexpected information and deeply documented. Anyone serious about politics should read this. From there, understanding where we are is a cakewalk.
+9 # economagic 2017-01-04 19:41
(Replying to Radscal, above, with some reference to comments in between)

I would agree with most of that, maybe for partly different reasons. Like the corporations themselves, he feeds on attention, no such thing as bad attention. Attacking an adversary at his strength is a wise approach, but I have heard no coherent idea as to what that would look like with T-Rump, certainly not from Mr. King. Opposition to some of the more egregious policy proposals will be necessary, and some of it may even persuade the necessary Republican votes in Congress. We will undoubtedly lose some battles, so would be foolish to use up all of our energies in February.

And while I'm not as confident that I understand the machinations of the Democratic Party as well as some people claim to, I don't think it will be any more effective at promoting progressive change than it was ever intended to be.

With those narrow exceptions, I think our efforts are best spent working like hell FOR what we DO want -- a form, perhaps, of attacking the adversary at his strength -- rather than working AGAINST what we DON'T want. And what I want, as I have said consistently, is revival of local communities and local economies for resilience in the storm many of us see ahead. With luck the turmoil that is Trump may give us a little working room, along with a sense of urgency that has been lacking under the DLC Democrats.
+7 # Radscal 2017-01-04 21:01
I can't disagree with any of that. We do need to act (and react) as a national and global society, too, but (re)building strong communities is both important for our survival - as whatever catastrophes are coming crash down on us - and the area in which we are most likely to have success in a relatively short time. And success which will remain important for a very, very long time.
0 # RLF 2017-01-06 08:48
I'm divided in my thinking. Part of me wants bite the bullet and give Trump every crazy thing he wants except supreme court appointees. It seems that it may be the only way to wake the American populous. i know it would hurt like hell but it is clear that half the country has not gotten screwed enough by Republicans to become critical of the big media misinformation machine. Arg!

I think the only protests that will work will have to destroy property, otherwise they will be ignored like they have for the last 20 years. (Note Seattle.)
+24 # RWP 2017-01-04 18:24
I think the watchword for counteracting Trump will be 'betrayal'. This will describe his relation to many who voted for him. So opposition is correct, but it will be important to bring along the decent people (and there are many) who were persuaded to vote for him, even if we disagreed with them at election time. So both resist and undermine.
+6 # Kiwikid 2017-01-04 19:53
I wish I could believe this will work. Trump has shown himself a master at avoiding responsibility and will sheet blame anywhere else he can. I'm expecting The health system to fail with the dismantling of the Affordable Care Act, and the Dems to get the blame. And his acolytes will suck up whatever narrative he puts up and believe him.
+13 # Radscal 2017-01-04 21:15
How many Trump supporters do you know personally?

In my experience, I'd estimate about 1/4 to 1/3 of them fit the stereotype you and the Democratic partisans paint.

Several I know are already upset with some of his cabinet choices (and mostly for the same reasons progressives oppose them). Others are shocked to learn that Trump is a long-time business partner with George Soros (whom many of his supporters abhor.

So, I think it crucial to all of our success that we be ready and supportive as Trump sells out those who supported him. And I certainly don't mean saying "I told you so."

And regardless of whom you wish to blame for it, ACA has not been such a terrific success.

But Trump was quite consistent in the campaign, and has reminded the Republicans in Congress as they meet about ACA that they cannot yank coverage out from under the 20 million some say are new customers of insurance companies, that insurance companies must continue to offer coverage to those with pre-existing conditions, and that price controls must be included.

So, let's work together with Trump supporters to make sure those things are handled in the ways that provide the greatest benefit to the most people.
+9 # bardphile 2017-01-04 23:11
Well said. To paraphrase Lincoln, stand with him when he's right, which he might occasionally be, and part with him when he goes wrong, which will be often. Let's make our opposition principled, directed, and effective, and not merely emotionally self-indulgent.
+2 # librarian1984 2017-01-05 01:08
Excellent point. The Clintonites will be ready to denounce and insult those who'll become disillusioned with Trump. They will be as tin-eared and counterproducti ve as ever. We cannot let that happen.
+4 # Kiwikid 2017-01-05 01:41
I live on the other side of the planet, Radscal - so I don't get a vote. We do however follow quite closely what happens in the US because we know it affects all of us. I have 3 adult sons. We're quite a close family, yet when it comes to the issue of Donald Trump, two of them are strong supporters - the discussions get quite intense. And I have no doubt they would believe any line he spun that would vindicate him and shift the blame elsewhere. They are intelligent young men. It worries me that if we'd been in Nazi Germany they would have swallowed Hitler's pap hook, line and sinker. I see little difference in method.
+2 # Radscal 2017-01-05 02:26
Scary. I guess I'm glad that you've got them, and not us. ;-)

Is there a growing right-wing in KiwiLand, too?
0 # Anonymot 2017-01-05 05:19
There's a growing right-wing everywhere unfortunately. The ineffectiveness and corruption of the left has protected and promoted it.
+1 # Radscal 2017-01-05 16:06
The Left has been systematically attacked, imprisoned, murdered and infiltrated and undermined for more than a century.

That FDR coopted some of the left's policies to "save capitalism" from a rising socialist revolution helped paint the Democratic Party as "left," but it has never really been leftist, and has spent the decades since FDR working with the Republicans to dismantle even those bandaids of the New Deal.
+4 # CTPatriot 2017-01-05 03:55
There's a difference, though, Kiwi. Living in another country, your sons will not be direct victims of the neoliberal economic and tax policies that I am expecting from Trump. It will be Bush-2 on steroids with the income inequality that imperils our society growing ever larger (as would have also happened under Clinton, just to a lesser degree).

Many good people who would have voted for Bernie and DID vote for Obama in 2008 and 2012 voted for Trump this time around because they saw that Obama had only made things worse for the poor and middle class, knew that Hillary would be more of the same, and bought into Trump's snake oil that he was for "the people" and against the establishment.

Those people and many others will eventually become disillusioned with Trump once they see he is making things worse for their pocketbooks rather than better. The only ones Trump will be left with are his core supporters, the Randians, racists, bigots and homophobes euphemistically referred to as the alt-right.

This could well lead to an easier ride for the opposition in 2020, but unless we fix the Democratic Party or start a new one, we will once again be stuck with a faux progressive establishment liberal who will throw us more crumbs while screwing us just like Obama did.
-1 # Kiwikid 2017-01-07 00:23
It's true, CTPatriot, that we will not be directly effected by your policies - they do have a downstream effect however - we're just 5 to 10 years behind. And there is one clear difference - we don't share your particular pathology. We don't have your obsession with 'freedom' and its manifestation in the framing of your laws designed to protect at all costs an extreme form of paranoid individualism. Hence your 'everyone for themselves', 'dog eat dog' society ('cause that's what it looks like from the outside) struggles to imagine what a society where we are our brother's and sisters keeper might look like. If you did you could see how insane your love affair with the gun looks (30,000 gun deaths every year - you are clearly mad if you think this is civilised). And that care for the poor, sick, and vulnerable rather than being optional extras promoted by the weak-minded is fundamental to a healthy functional society. In this respect we're along way from you, and I pray we stay that way.
+26 # mikehz 2017-01-04 18:33
As Trump continues to break his campaign promises and demonstrate his total lack of experience and common sense in managing the government, the disillusion will become real. This will lead to groups of dissension and it will be critical for us to join the group(s) relevant to us... and focus and expand the opposition.
-5 # jdd 2017-01-04 19:19
Trump has so far stood up to Obama's attempts to provoke a confrontation with Russia and poison the waters in his last days. More can be said, as his policies are yet undefined - but "expand the opposition" to what end? What are you for?
+2 # desertprogressive 2017-01-04 21:46
Other than Trump's stated opposition to TPP, sending jobs off-shore, etc, the ONLY thing I can think of that I agree with Trump on is Russia.

The rest is Reaganomics on steroids!
+2 # goodsensecynic 2017-01-05 00:22
It would be easy to agree with Trump on off-shoring jobs (if he had a plan or the will to do anything about it), but the main threat to jobs in the USA lies within the USA ... namely automation/cybe rnation, the destruction of trade unions and the financializatio n of the economy.

There has been tremendous economic growth over the past 40 years and all the wealth generated has gone exclusively into the hands of the 1% of the 1% of the 1%, while underemployment , "casual" labor, low wages (and getting lower as Trump fights against even inadequate minimum wage laws) rise.

So-called "free trade" deals aren't about trade or even manufactured goods (though all those stupid Trump baseball caps were made in China); they're about financial relations, intellectual property, communications technology, etc.

If American capitalists could only be encouraged to invest their money in US jobs, things might be different, but they're stashing the cash in tax havens and pocketing their obscene tax reductions in the real "offshore" economic problem - bank accounts in foreign countries far from the scrutiny of the IRS.

Short version?

Thinking Trump will fight the "establishment" on behalf of the "little guy" is silly. Trump IS the establishment and he has nothing but contempt for the little guy. Little guys are "losers" and Trump despises losers.
+1 # Radscal 2017-01-05 02:37
You're absolutely correct that productivity has skyrocketed, but wages have stagnated - or even gone down. All those extra profits are being pocketed by the 0.01% and "investors."

I never cease to be amazed that most USians do not understand that. Of course, the corporate media doesn't exactly make that Front Page News every day, but it's such an essential element that profoundly affects every one of us every day, that I am flummoxed that everyone doesn't know it, and shout about it constantly.

Trump is unlikely to change that significantly, though it is possible that his enormous ego combined with a neurotic craving to be rated highly, that he will promote policies that are slightly better than your run of the mill Republican or Neoliberal Democrat.

But the meme that his MAGA caps were made in China seems to be an internet/urban myth. The ties he was selling were made in China (and Vietnam if I recall from when David Letterman had him on and put him on the hot seat about that). But all of his election swag seems to have been actually "Made in the USA."
+21 # RadicalLeft 2017-01-04 18:36
Charismatic and vocal national leaders needed, with a state-of-the art communication system. Obama and Sanders have been able to mobilize the youth, who are the future and the hope--these are the people most likely to uphold principles. The circus slight-of-hand tactics are for school dropouts. Let's keep the youngsters in good schools and teach them government.
+20 # Caliban 2017-01-04 18:56
"Charismatic and vocal national leaders needed".

I agree completely, and I believe they will be there when needed. Sanders and Ellison are not going to run and hide, and Obama can be a forceful presence when he wants to be.

And there will be others who I am not thinking of now but who will be ready to step forward to battle the GOP -- hopefully to a standstill on some of their signature absurdities. In any case it is way too early for despair.

So, let's make him "One Term Donald" and help steer the US on a productive and positive path to 2020.
+5 # jdd 2017-01-04 19:47
Radical left for Obama - who has allied with reactionary Saudi Arabia for genocide in Yemen, who seeks to overthrow every secular government in the Mid-East, continuing and expanding Bush's wars. And who has waged a nasty campaign to demonize Russia and China since day one while bring a rearmed NATO to the borders of Russia. Who carries out weekly drone assassinations with impunity in violation of all international and civilized law. My how things have changed. I think the Radical has left you.
+2 # Anonymot 2017-01-05 09:45
Shush! You are talking about foreign policy and hot wars and cold wars. The faux left has ear filters on that make you waste your breath on anything but domestic matters like health, social, jobs, etc. Only 6 of us here who care about what the CIA does beyond our borders.
+16 # m... 2017-01-04 19:07
My thought: Progressives have no agreed upon inclusive Overarching Narrative that unifies all the groups pushing their own narrow agendas let alone the broader electorate. There's little out there in the way of a broad-inclusive vision everyone is willing to rally around. Its still a much too loose affiliation of this group and that group; splintered and certainly not unified around the basics necessary to create the political foundation and broader agenda from which to build an inclusive campaign upon for all.
Perhaps-- try to see it this way: A simple conservative overarching narrative called 'Less Government' (Trickle Down' 'Smaller Government' 'Reaganomics' 'Business Run Government' 'Less Taxes' 'Less Regulation') and all the gobbledygook and catastrophe for most in America and the world that goes with it has over the past 30 years, more successfully than not, taken down the last prevailing overarching narrative known as the New Deal.
And now it seems we are getting, from Reagan to Trump, what appears to be a 'QUADRUPLING' down on 'Trickle Down'.
Well, that's because-- it works for those who have worked long, hard and methodically to put what they want in place. Like it or not, political-power wise, their overarching narrative has been very successful for them. They've also had a much broader unity along most of the way and they still work hard at it from the local ground floor up to the White House.
Trump has simply been smart enough to ride this continuing wave.
+4 # dadhantat 2017-01-04 20:30
This is one of the most astute and insightful comments I have ever read on RSN.

Where to begin. I first voted in 1968. Voted republican ever election cycle till Bill Clinton and voted Democratic ever since. Now I am waiting for a progrssive 3rd party to emerge (go Bernie & Keith Ellison). In reference to Robert Riech's new post, the New Normal began with Nixon, progressed under Regan/Bush(1) then W & company , WJC/HRC, to some degree Obama(TPP) and morphed into Trump. Nixon, Regan/Bush(1) & W are part of the same progression I call NORMAL 1.0. Trump is NORMAL 2.0 (or maybe 3.0). None were normal before Nixon. "and they still work hard at it from the ground up. Trumph has simply been smart enough to ride this continuing wave". Now Shaun King's article. Like any ADDICT one must reach rock bottom before change is considered. For this electorate it is going to be a return to working conditions of the early 1900s before the pepole in the red states wakeup to what they have lost. Individuals are smart the masses are ignorant and fearful. People are fearful of losing what they have. If Trump follows through with his retoric (I see no reason why he will not) the worst is yet to come for the masses.

What we are presently seeing/experien cing is a competition between two naratives. In my simple mind it is a narrative between profit/cost verse humanity/environment.

I suspect that some people are going to be suprised to be on Farafalla's list; librarian1984 for one.
+5 # NonnyO 2017-01-04 20:34
We must wake out of our Trump-induced stupor and fill the streets not by the dozens, or hundreds, but by the thousands and millions.
Shaun King quote from article.
Sooooo..., I take it King lives in a temperate tropical zone where current temps are not in the teens below zero with wind chill factors double that below zero and being outside for any length of time means literally freezing to death...?

While we are having warmer winter temps than in previous years (thanks to pollution, etc.), we are not without freezing cold snaps for a week or more on end out here in flyover country (I'm including Standing Rock a few hundred miles away). When temps get this low, that means it will have to warm up to freezing or slightly above to snow.

If anyone in northern climes wants to be alive to demonstrate and march in protest when it gets warmer outdoors, we have to stay indoors while temps and wind chills exceed ten+ or twenty+ degrees below zero. Our families don't want to dig our graves in frozen ground because we were too stupid to stay indoors at home in the winter.

We could send our moral support to those in warmer parts of the country if they want to go out and start protesting now when it's freezing cold outside up here, but our hearts are still warm.

Reminder: We're in this pickle because the establishment DINO wing of the Rethuglicn party foisted Hillary Clinton on us as a "choice" to vote "for." Protest them, too!!!
+5 # m... 2017-01-04 20:56
Your idea to fill the streets is not bad. I think many millions think like you. Most will never get off the couch. Sad... But filling the streets might stir up the energy we really need-- to do the nitty gritty, methodical, grass roots drudgery that it will take to become the WINNERS... Because, as you probably have noticed--- Trump and the Re-Trickle Downers have won... And the Winners make the rules the losers have to live by. And, we will indeed remain the losers until we, the majority and the current losers, find the common ground among ourselves to rally around collectively and many many of us get together and get down to the actual time and methodical grind required to reacquire the political power to become the rule makers...
Taking to the streets helps, especially if its sustained. But the real work that needs to be done is not out there on the streets. It begins with turning off the tv, gathering around kitchen tables, organizing, networking and forming larger and larger alliances until a big and bright overarching narrative forms a gigantic-attrac tive and energized tent that almost everyone wants to be a part of because it clearly demonstrates its capacity as a foundation for many many different and diverse groups to build from as one...
+3 # NonnyO 2017-01-05 00:44
Quoting m...:
Taking to the streets helps, especially if its sustained. But the real work that needs to be done is not out there on the streets. It begins with turning off the tv, gathering around kitchen tables, organizing, networking...

My generation did that to end the Vietnam War and get some personal autonomy for women's rights and abortion..., but through the decades since the things we gained have eroded with more and more radical religious reichwingnut legislators who love war and see controlling women's bodies like females are chattel property have gained prominence. They ask about religious beliefs as though they are not aware of Article VI of the Constitution or the First Amendment's mandate of separation of church and state - not helped with the unconstitutiona l executive order signed early in his first term by Dumbya creating the 'office of faith-based initiatives,' followed by Obama (a man who allegedly taught constitutional law on a college level, no less) retaining the office and expanding it. They are also the knuckleheads who don't "believe in" science (evolution or climate change) because science is not a religion.

In any case, people meeting (or blogging) to discuss future political goals is a good idea for winter activities which can be enacted and protested for or against (depending on the subject) when the weather warms up. Freezing to death for a cause serves no purpose if there is no one alive to protest for or against something.
+1 # Radscal 2017-01-05 02:51
It's true that Duh-Bya started the official "Office of Faith Based... blah, blah, blah." But Billy Clinton actually began the concept of giving taxpayer dollars to religious groups as part of his "Welfare Reform" Act.

I was also part of the anti-war/civil rights protests of the 1960s and early 1970s. I was convinced we helped end the war... until I read Chomsky's take on it.

Basically, the US knew from the moment the Vietnamese people drove the French out that there was no way to "win" that war in the traditional sense. The goal was to turn the good example of a people's anti-neocolonia l socialist revolution into a horrifying example of what happens to others that try it.

The US achieved that goal, and pulled out.

And as much as I resisted accepting that view, the more I read about what was happening (especially the Pentagon Papers) the more sense it made.
+2 # NonnyO 2017-01-06 01:07
The Vietnam war didn't make any sense then, and it still doesn't make any sense in hindsight (at least not to me). I lost good friends from high school years in that horror, and it was all for nothing.

Re: Afghanistan, Iraq, other oil-rich nations. The US oil corporations are using the US military to guard or fight for what they regard as their property, and that's just plain wrong.

No one is "fighting and dying for our freedoms" there (nor did they do so in Vietnam). Remember, in the invasion of Iraq, the first and most important instruction to the US military was to secure the oil ministry in Baghdad and then protect the oil wells. I remember Ted Koppel mentioning that as they bounced across the desert on the way to Baghdad since the invasion was televised on live television.

The oil and military-indust rial-mercenary complex corporations have gotten tax breaks on top of securing no-bid government contracts and gotten richer than Midas off of the US taxpayers. They can afford to hire their own damned mercenaries to protect the oil wells they covet. Better yet, they can afford to buy the oil wells rather than make the US taxpayers pay for their profiteering misadventures.
+1 # Radscal 2017-01-06 20:29
Yes on all the post 9/11 Global War OF Terror targets.

And yes, that I too lost many friends and some family to that war. I include those who survived the war, but died as a consequence of it later.

Regarding Vietnam, it has some natural resources and other exploitable things (like the labor we're exploiting today), but in the post WW II world, it came to represent the worldwide revolution against colonialism.

FDR and Stalin got Churchill to agree to allow "IndoChina" to gain their independence once we drove the Japanese Empire out. But then Truman gave de Gaulle the green light to reinstall their colonial governance, which began the Vietnamese war for Independence.

Eisenhower knew that if he allowed the elections that were part of the peace treaty France signed, that Vietnam would be reunited under a socialist government. And he (actually, the supra-national financial interests) could not have that.

Yet, he also knew that 80% to 90% of Vietnamese seeking independence, there was no way to "win" a war there.

Remember "the domino theory?" Turns out, that really was their view. If Vietnam succeeded in gaining independence and developing a socialist government, others would do the same.

And that was why we had to turn Vietnam into a terrifying example... to prevent other "dominoes" from falling. And it largely worked.
-2 # kyzipster 2017-01-05 11:19
I couldn't be more opposed to the marriage of the religious right and the GOP but I read all I could about Bush's 'office of faith-based initiatives' when it was prominent in the news and I couldn't find anything unconstitutiona l about it, and I was naturally drawn to journalism that was very critical of Bush.

If I recall, it was an effort to streamline grant applications, money available to any charity prior to the creation of this office by Bush. Part of it was educating faith based charities about existing grant opportunities and how they would have to structure their charities to qualify. There are strict rules in place to prevent these charities from discriminating when receiving federal money. I had no problem with Obama continuing with it.

I was involved with Catholic Charities during the AIDS crisis, administering federal dollars to people with HIV. The rules were followed closely. I personally can't stand the RCC as an institution but their charities are often staffed with good people with pure intentions. Back then, any charity willing to step up was embraced by the LGBTQ community as long as they followed the rules when using tax dollars.

I think these religious nuts in Congress have to be watched closely along with the institutions receiving tax money, there is room for much abuse, but it's not unconstitutiona l when the rules are followed.
+1 # NonnyO 2017-01-06 00:53
The Christian religious nuts don't follow the rules and use emotional blackmail to get what they want: money and complete obedience to twisted misogynistic religious doctrine they invented. Study the last two thousand years of the torturous, murderous history of Christianity, and you'll see what I mean.

GWB signed that executive order as a thank you to the religious right who wanted government money to finance their religious organizations. THAT is unconstitutiona l.

Check out the wording in Article VI, last clause of the third paragraph. "... but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

In the strictest interpretation, just asking a politician about her/his religious views is unconstitutiona l since it leads to making religion the only reason to vote for or against a politician if a religious test is involved.

The First Amendment forbids the government to impose a national religion on people. If you've studied the religious wars of the 16th through 18th centuries, you'll quickly figure out why the Founding Fathers made that prohibition the first clause of the First Amendment. [On this side of the pond, see Massachusetts Bay Colony religious strife and the Salem witch trials.]

I've studied history for the last 55 of my 70 years, and some of my colonial New England ancestors arrived here because of religious strife in England. I know what I'm talking about.
+3 # Radscal 2017-01-05 02:44
Mass protests are great. They serve to energize protesters and create networking opportunities. If they get any corporate media coverage, let alone fair coverage, then they also serve to inform the general public that there are a lot of us struggling for justice for all.

But they don't necessarily change anything in and of themselves. The DAPL Water Protectors being a perfect example. The pipeline construction may have been delayed here and there, but it wasn't until 4,000 veterans put their bodies between the Water Protectors and the Enforcers for the Corporations/Ba nks that Obama halted the project.

I've mentioned before that stopping construction then, prevented the scene of either Enforcers brutalizing peaceful veterans, or Enforcers putting down their arms and refusing orders. The latter being the key moment when non-violent revolutions succeed.

Perehaps more painful to the 0.01% would be mass strikes and targeted boycotts. Hit them in their wallets and we might get their attention.
+1 # Anonymot 2017-01-05 09:55
Yes, until the last §. Republicans did not do it, Deep State did. They switched from Republicans to the donkeys after the Afghan/Iraq regime changes proved so disastrous. Post-Bush no Republican was electable. Even the retards could see that, so they bought the donkeys and found two eager, pliable Fiests as follow-ons. Their shock is that after Obama's being so bad, the follow-on #2 didn't follow on.
+1 # Radscal 2017-01-05 16:23
I see no reason to believe that Deep State thinks their programs in Afghanistan and Iraq were disastrous.

After all, they seemed quite pleased about having destroyed the secular, modernizing government of Afghanistan in the 1980s, leaving it a segmented, waring failed state.

And, they've continued to employ the very same policies in Libya, Syria and Ukraine since the disasters in our second wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

And if you look into the work in Iraq of John Negroponte, Robert Ford, James Steele and James Coffman from 2004 to 2006, I think you'll find that Deep State quite deliberately fomented the "civil" or "sectarian" wars that erupted there.

If anything, it appears that they felt Iraq was recovering from the fall of the Hussein, Baathist government too well for Deep State's tastes.
+3 # DongiC 2017-01-04 20:50
Its going to be a real tough struggle fighting Trump and his right wing allies for political control. For one thing, the Republicans have amassed huge campaign funds which allows them to set false think tanks which deny such things as global warming. For another the GØP big-wigs own many newspapers and of course, Fox News. For another the Republicans are getting down pat how to cheat at elections: in 2000 and 2016 they demonstrated how skillful they are at doing this. At the state level, just check the current situation in N. Carolina.

Yet, the situation is still fluid. People are concerned with Social Security. with their health care and with the environment, More and more American cities are having problems with water on the streets, Miami Beach, Norfolk, Galveston, Atlantic city. If the water really rises and the sale of homes is threatened, all bets are off. Panic will then walk our coastal cities.

Overseas. we may get into a serious dispute with China. Russia is an economic and military ally of China and will no doubt side with its ally. Despite the current bromance between Trump and Putin. So all is not lost. Here's hoping the "people" get organized, vote Progressive and send the GØP to the political wilderness.
+5 # Radscal 2017-01-05 03:00
I don't see either party flavor as being powerful or wealthy organizations that control media, elections, etc.

I see them as the spokesmodels for those who really are wealthy and powerful. It used to be that the two parties were paid off by different interests, but since the creation of the DLC, they share a lot of sponsors... and therefore goals and tactics.

But I do absolutely agree that we have a tough row to hoe, and a lot of us are very concerned. That includes a lot of Trump supporters.

2016 was The Election of Rejection. Both "liberals" and "conservatives" largely rejected their traditional party establishments.

The liberals' champion was ripped out from under us, and Drumpf played the role of the conservatives' champion, and "won."

But there are still hundreds of millions of USians who are very concerned about a lot of the same things.
+1 # CarolynScarr 2017-01-04 22:01
For a role model of how to respond to an entirely stolen election, look at Haiti. see

Haitians are still in the streets refusing to accept an election in which thousands of people had their names removed from the rolls -- as we also did. In which ballot boxes full of ballots were found burning in the streets, which we did not have.

Our election was stolen in a very different in which the media handed us this clown on a silver platter by refusing to address the real issues facing us as a country and as a planet.

But it is time for us to hit the streets, where hopefully we will not face the bullets the Haitians are facing, bullets fired by police trained by the U.S. and the UN alas.

Go to and see what real resistance looks like. Haitians have been fighting for freedom for over 200 years.
+4 # futhark 2017-01-04 22:13
The Republican Congress embarrassed itself on Day 1 of its session by advocating the neutering of the House Ethics Commission. The public apparently stood up to this abuse of political power and made them eat crow. Instead of "draining the swamp" the Republicans seem to desire to fill it to overflowing.

My prediction is that once in office Mr. Trump will proceed to advance his agenda of dismantling the government agencies that preserve, protect, and defend the American people and will meet with a like upsurge of indignation and resistance. Mr. Trump represents those who habitually and necessarily exploit resources and people for short term gain and his political failure will be monumental and a watchword to future generations. No one is going to motivate opposition to Trump more than himself.
+3 # Radscal 2017-01-05 03:04
Drumpf publicly told the Congressional Republicans to back off, and they did. I think he devoted three whole Tweets to the fight. lol

That could have all been theater, like "saving" the Carrier air conditioner plant.
+2 # janie1893 2017-01-05 02:16
unified fierceness? Americans are no longer capable of this reaction. Perhaps when the children are hungry and Trump and buddies have all the wealth in the country, unified fierceness may return.
Americans--Trumps forte is forcing businesses into bankruptcy and profiting from the remains. Remember this!

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