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Reich writes: "All current members of the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic state central committees should resign, and Democrats should elect people who are committed to creating a New Democratic Party."

Former Clinton labor secretary Robert Reich. (photo: Steve Russell/Toronto Star)
Former Clinton labor secretary Robert Reich. (photo: Steve Russell/Toronto Star)


All Current Members of the Democratic National Committee Should Resign. We Need a New Democratic Party.

By Robert Reich, Robert Rich's Facebook Page

12 November 16

 

lan A: All current members of the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic state central committees should resign, and Democrats should elect people who are committed to creating a New Democratic Party that will

(1) organize and mobilize millions of people into an activist army to peacefully resist Donald Trump’s takeover of America,

(2) provide this activist army with daily explanations of what is occurring in Trump’s administration, along with tasks that individuals and groups can do to stop or mitigate their harmful effects,

(3) protect vulnerable populations from harassment and exclusion, including undocumented young people, recent immigrants, people of color, and women,

(4) recruit a new generation of progressive candidates to run at the local, state, and national levels in 2018 and beyond, including someone to take on Trump in 2020, and

(5) do everything possible to advance the progressive agenda at state and local levels -- getting big money out of politics, reversing widening inequality, expanding health care, reversing climate change, ending the militarization of our police and the mass incarceration of our people, and stopping interminable and open-ended warfare.

Plan B: Create a new organization outside the Democratic Party to do (1) through (5) above.

Which plan do you prefer? Or do you have a Plan C? And how do you suggest we get started?

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-29 # danigo 2016-11-12 14:17
Why not do as Bernie says and work with Trump on the things we can agree on and oppose him on the things we do not? That is the way democracy works. Trump won fair and square. The Democrats blew. They backed the wrong horse and the Dems did not show up at the polls in sufficient numbers (way down from the Obama years). Trump said many things that people agree with. Let's give him a chance instead of running scared before there is any reason.
 
 
+129 # Dust 2016-11-12 14:22
Makes sense EXCEPT - "running scared before there is any reason"????

No - there is plenty of reason. If Trump implements even half of his promised agenda, then the damage to the environment and pretty much anyone who is not a straight white (already wealthy) male will be enormous. If he didn't really mean to do any of those things, then why the fuck did you vote for him?
 
 
+105 # tswhiskers 2016-11-12 15:57
Is it running scared to want to stop Ryan from gutting Medicare ASAP? Will Soc. Sec. be next? We need to work together and fight the Reps. at the same time. Yes, Ryan says that Trump has brought to Rep. notice the fact that millions of Americans are suffering poverty and must work 2-3 jobs to make a sufficient living. Bernie and the Dems have been "noticing" this phenomenon for years. I hope that Trump will resign in a few years from sheer boredom and mental exhaustion.
 
 
+32 # Navrongo80 2016-11-12 19:16
Robert, Robert, Robert,
You the author of the teary eyed, "We must vote for Hillary" articles now calling for heads to roll at the DNC. I am surprised that you don't suggest that HRC should be the head of this new committee.

Just to let you know; I wrote in Bernie. You went the LOTE way. OK.

Have you read, " Deer Hunting with Jesus"?

I suspect you have. The DNC needs to go back to the drawing board. Your Imperial Highness of a candidate got her *ss smoked because she was oblivious to the issues that resonated with citizens that should be apart of the Democratic coalition.

Use that as the foundation of the new party.
 
 
+51 # futhark 2016-11-12 20:19
"Have you read, " Deer Hunting with Jesus"?"

Yes, I read it about 3 years back. It should be required for anyone aspiring to leadership in the Democratic Party. They must know that the terrain has changed. "Left", "Center", and "Right" are no longer in the same positions on the political spectrum and leadership of the Democratic Party needs to acknowledge it. Stop shaming those that are less than astute politically as "deplorables". Look upon this as an opportunity to educate those who are supporting regressive candidates out of frustration and against their own best interests and, furthermore, seek out and promote candidates who can articulate the challenges of our times and advance reasonable approaches to them. Perhaps most importantly, stop promoting candidates who are tainted with symbiotic relationships with Wall Street, the military-indust rial complex, the state surveillance apparatus, or the fossil fuel industry.

By the way, such a party already exists. It is called the Green Party.
 
 
+11 # Glen 2016-11-13 06:57
There is a need for numerous parties and a restructuring of the American system of governing. The original was meant for a smaller population with no major military, no giant manipulative corporations, and so on. There is no true left/right, even up/down, regardless of citizens having been manipulated into the mentality of football.

However, retraining U.S. citizens would be impossible, just as repairing all social ills.
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-11-15 01:39
Sign here:
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19

A long shot, and unconstitutiona l for them, but hey we need to save the republic from this sociopathic buffoon.
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-11-15 22:29
restructuring for sure (deeply reforming in a Constitutional assembly - see 1 of my comment with link below.)
BUT, guess what? I just found out (from Allen Cohen) that 11 states have already approved legislation to go around the Electoral College legally: they'd give All their delegates at the EC to the candidate who obtains the majority of the popular vote NATIONALLY. Not perfect but better than what we have (until we can change the Constitution and get rid of the EC).
Not sure how many states are needed: enough to generate say 270-300 E. College votes (?)
The answer is probably Here:
http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/about

Look into it and promote the idea w/ your state representatives and senators, especially in LARGE states!
 
 
+4 # manuelzavala 2016-11-13 21:37
well said
 
 
+3 # crispy 2016-11-15 01:36
Need to amend the Constitution and have proportional representation in Congress first if a 3rd party is to have a chance; AND get MSM to allow 3rd parties (2-4) in debates like they do in France for ex.
Amend by Constitutional Assembly (no other choice now) READ HERE:
The best way to go and how it works:
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No3_Rogersonline.pdf

Well worth reading as it answers many questions from those who say "impossible" "too risky", "never done before"
 
 
+1 # newell 2016-11-15 07:17
Agree and I like direct voting as well. There are many good ideas. Monroe and Marx had some too. The problem is the 1%--they make it almost "impossible". Taking control of the DNC by progressives, now in chaos, is probable. It is much easier to make the DNC like the green Party than to grow the Green Party to the size of the DNC. Political parties change. I understand Lincoln was a Republican.
 
 
0 # wcandler1 2016-11-16 14:19
Quite so! The DNC had the Super Delegate provision, exactly to ensure that popular enthusiasm did not result in nominating someone who was unelectable. In Bernie they had a candidate who could clearly beat Trump, but they chose Hillary. The rest is history. .... Why spend endless effort trying to redirect the Democratic Party to adopt a platform that is already out there? Namely the Green Party platform. Go Jill and Green candidates lower down the ballot!
 
 
+58 # Activista 2016-11-12 16:17
"Trump said many things that people agree with"
but only few positive and most not substantiated
... damage to environment is to start
 
 
+2 # crispy 2016-11-15 01:31
Activista watch SCRIPTED video here and hear YOUR president lie: (It's in English on a French site)It seems this is hard to find here on a US site.

http://www.agoravox.tv/tribune-libre/article/un-discours-essentiel-de-donald-71197
 
 
+59 # PeacefulGarden 2016-11-12 16:48
Oh, look! It is a Trump supporter! I guess you have one of those "Grab Some Pussy" hats.

Go, danigo, you go dude. You just voted in the dumbest fuck ever as president!

Ya' know, perhaps Pence will drug the stupid fuck every morning and just run the country into the ground like he did to Indiana. The shining state of Indiana, especially the south part where all the pollution lingers and kills everyone slowly.
 
 
+51 # jimmyjames 2016-11-12 18:51
Sorry, but G. W. Bush stills holds the "dumbest President ever". Trump may be a Bozo Clown, but he ain't as dumb as George Bush!
 
 
+8 # Caliban 2016-11-13 02:16
Sorry, jimmyjames -- You may be right, but we should really wait until after the DONALD has held office a few months to decide this issue for sure.
 
 
+14 # backwards_cinderella 2016-11-13 12:56
they're both dumb. just in different ways.
 
 
+16 # NAVYVET 2016-11-12 19:07
I never heard so many cusswords in the vicinity of a "peaceful" garden before. Just take a deep breath, calm down and stay in the struggle for a long while. You seem about ready to pass out.
 
 
+29 # PeacefulGarden 2016-11-12 19:52
Hmmmm. The struggle for control? Of what?

Pass out? Nah, I am just going to play the violin? Some Bach will do.

I keep telling this story over and over again on this site. There is nothing peaceful about a garden. Sure, it looks peaceful, but under the soil is a vast struggle for dominance; bugs, molds, and roots. My screen name is a joke.

I make no apologies, I am angry about the stupidity of my fellow citizens. And, they are pretty fucking stupid for voting for the dumbest fucker ever.
 
 
+5 # thekidde 2016-11-14 12:17
Amen - in spades.
 
 
-1 # crispy 2016-11-15 01:26
yep peacefulgarden:

“A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices”
― George Orwell

I have to admit BOTH candidates fit the description but one is worse and we have him unless ( a long shot again)...

you sign this:
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19
 
 
+14 # librarian1984 2016-11-12 20:34
"Oh, look!"

I am pretty freaking tired of people demeaning Trump voters and conservatives. I am about as opposite them politically as can be but I am ASHAMED of the insults and ignorance I'm reading from supposedly enlightened liberals.

danigo didn't say anything that warranted the subsequent abuse. How are we better than 'them'? Obviously WE ARE NOT.

How is this better than the school kids ridiculing Hispanic fellow students or ripping women's hijabs off?

Clinton operatives started at least some of the violence at Trump rallies.

Clinton supporters are burning cars and defacing businesses during protests (unless it's provocateurs).

PG up above is being more explicitly crude than the Trump supporter by far.

Unbelievably hypocritical and shameful. No wonder they hate us and voted for Trump.

None of us are without fault. Look in the mirror before you insult others.
 
 
+11 # PeacefulGarden 2016-11-12 21:14
Without fault? He voted for a man that basically replicated Hitler. He has gained popularity based upon racist attacks on minorities.

This is beyond statements like, "no one is perfect".

Who is next, after Trump? Poor little Hitler, he was so harassed, nobody liked him?

What the heck is your point?
 
 
+8 # Anonymot 2016-11-13 09:57
You obviously don't know much about Hitler. The most probable reason you say that is because she didn't grow a moustache. Hitler was not about a man or a woman, it was and remains about fascism, wars, and genocide, things like The New World Order or the New American Century.

Once the hysteria calms down, we'll realize we were lucky we missed the bullet. Then we can get down to changing the mess we made.

It should start with firing every last person at the DNC and/or starting a serious 3rd Party.
 
 
+3 # ThorunnPS 2016-11-15 01:46
The point is to take the high ground and behave decently, setting an example to those who seem to believe that those who believe differently don't deserve decency. And by the way, you only ASSUME that Danigo is a Trump supporter. I read him as someone who is calling for making the best of a bad job, which is eminently reasonable.
 
 
+1 # Majikman 2016-11-12 21:50
Spot on, Lib.
 
 
-3 # kyzipster 2016-11-13 00:19
Your need to have a kumbaya moment with the alt-right is an embarrassment to the progressive cause.

Jeez, let the country be in shock, we need to get used to our new dictator.

Shock, anger, acceptance. The stages of grief. You're not helping.
 
 
+20 # harleysch 2016-11-13 06:14
Has no one on the site paid attention to what Bernie and Elizabeth Warren have said: That if Trump takes on Wall Street, they will work with him? Most of those posting against Trump have missed another potential critical point of change, Trump's pledge to stop going to war on behalf of regime change.

If he follows through and passes Glass Steagall, ends the Bush/Obama/Hill ary support of mass murder in the name of "regime change", and stops the inane provocative attacks against Putin and Russia, these would be positive developments.
 
 
+2 # kyzipster 2016-11-13 08:29
I think we can multi-task. Support any progressive change he's willing to embrace and oppose his fascism. Attacks on LGBT rights, immigrants, women's rights, etc etc etc

Are we supposed to be quiet about the blatant bigotry he has empowered because he might actually follow through on a couple of positive things? F that.

If he does it, I'll support him. I supported Bush on AIDS funding in Africa and Medicare Part D and still protested the Iraq War and the unending Republican attacks on LGBT rights.

This is an obscure internet forum where we can express knee jerk opinion. Not Congress. I have full faith in the Dems to remain spineless throughout this transition, accept a few bread crumbs gracefully and give us another establishment candidate in 2020. 'Deplorable' will never be spoken again.

Liberals will be blaming liberals for the rise of Trump without seriously taking on the massive right-wing propaganda machine that gave us this monster because that would be 'elite'. Like the last 40 years, intellectual hot air about what we can do to appeal to butt hurt Middle America. Elitist BS.

Meanwhile, I'll step back like Keillor and grow some heirloom tomatoes while the fabric of society continues to unravel.

The only thing I have much faith in right now is the fact that I'll be dead in 30 to 40 years along with most of Trump's base and the Conservative Movement of the last 40 years that brought us to this point in time will probably follow them into the grave.
 
 
+2 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 10:33
Quoting kyzipster:
I think we can multi-task. Support any progressive change he's willing to embrace and oppose his fascism. Attacks on LGBT rights, immigrants, women's rights, etc etc etc

Are we supposed to be quiet about the blatant bigotry he has empowered because he might actually follow through on a couple of positive things? F that.

If he does it, I'll support him. I supported Bush on AIDS funding in Africa and Medicare Part D and still protested the Iraq War and the unending Republican attacks on LGBT rights.

This is an obscure internet forum where we can express knee jerk opinion. Not Congress.

I have full faith in the Democratic Party to remain spineless throughout this transition, accept a few bipartisan bread crumbs gracefully and give us another establishment candidate in 2020.

Liberals will be blaming liberals for the rise of Trump without seriously taking on the massive right-wing propaganda machine that gave us this monster because that would be 'elite' and snobby.

.

We must beware of "trying to make sense out of nonsense" because this is a guy who is only a mouthpiece for his own insane fear mongering and an occasional attempt to read a speech written by his handlers. He can't even remember what he has said. Like Bush but without the bombast. Look for the Cheney's behind the curtain... the Ryan "policies" The Tea Party management. THAT is where our adversaries are lurking. Trump is a con man with a job he can't handle.
 
 
-2 # kyzipster 2016-11-13 11:35
Exactly!
 
 
+7 # librarian1984 2016-11-13 13:05
ky, Giving someone respect is not a kumbaya moment. it's the minimum required to have a conversation, which we desperately need.

Personally, I don't think things could have gone much worse and I would like to improve things.

When you own the progressive cause you can tell me I'm an embarrassment to it. Until then, grow up. That might help.
 
 
-6 # kyzipster 2016-11-13 13:55
You're telling us you're ashamed of other progressives for what I see as a moral and righteous reaction to what just happened. So I called your perspective an embarrassment. Only because of your attempt to shame others.

When I own the progressive cause? What does this mean, that my opinions aren't identical to yours in every way? Because I advocated a vote for Clinton because I saw this coming? From what I've seen so far, it's worse than I had imagined. Considering your attitude about Trump, preferring him to win over Clinton. I'm not surprised that you can't see it.

My gawd the elitism on this forum and you're calling us elitist for speaking back to fascism! Just wow.

That is just like an Evangelical dictating to other Christians, defining who can and who cannot call themselves 'Christian'.

Yep, it's no wonder Trump won.

I said it before, we wanted a revolution, well this is what it looks like. Maybe you wanted Trump over Clinton because he's pretending to be anti-establishm ent. You have to accept the massive baggage that came with him and an opposite and hopefully equal reaction to it. I would have preferred a more peaceful revolt.

I'm proud of my fellow progressives for taking action out there. I'll be at a Standing Rock demonstration in Nashville on Tuesday, showing some solidarity.
 
 
+9 # librarian1984 2016-11-13 16:52
It's a moral and righteous reaction to call people stupid bigots?

I AM shaming anyone who pulls the same cr@p we're accusing the other side of. We need to deal with the right and this is not helpful. Piss and moan til the next election if that's your preference but don't then complain if we lose again.

Arrogance and hostility got us in to this mess. I'm not sure how you think MORE arrogance and hostility will get us out.

It is difficult to converse with someone who builds straw men and repeatedly misstates my argument. I am getting the feeling that Clinton supporters are unwilling to learn anything from this debacle and may indeed just get in the way of progress. They were the name callers and fact deniers all year and there does not seem to be much improvement.

You selfrighteously declared, frequently, that you were better Bernie supporters because you followed his advice to support HRC, but now you're rejecting his (and Warren's) decision to work with Trump on issues of common cause, and calling others names .. again.

You realize you guys got this whole thing wrong, right? That progressives read this election much more accurately than you?

The fact you're still lugging around the attitude bodes ill for a DP renaissance. I think third party is the way to go.
 
 
-8 # kyzipster 2016-11-13 17:58
Gee, I thought I was just venting on an obscure forum. You take this place way too seriously.

"You realize you guys got this whole thing wrong, right? That progressives read this election much more accurately than you?"

Right, me and Sanders and Warren were on the same page as I recall. Are you kicking them out of the progressive club at RSN too? It's their job to be Congressional, I support them and trust their judgment. It's my job to hit the streets and show solidarity with those who are so obviously at risk. If I choose to vent online about the fascist nightmare that put this man in office, get over it. This has little impact beyond your reaction.

We'll see who's right. I predicted he'll evolve into one more establishment, far right Republican and so far, he's not disappointing. He'll challenge McConnell and the rest now and then for a good show and you'll probably fall for it. Thrilled at a few bread crumbs they throw our way as Wall St and the billionaire class have another field day like the Bush years. Why do you think Sanders encouraged a vote for Clinton?

Your total apathy towards what minorities and others are experiencing right now in the culture is something you need to take a serious look at if you really consider yourself a progressive.
 
 
+9 # librarian1984 2016-11-13 19:23
My apathy toward minorities and others? You are really something .. your bs precludes honest debate. Buh-bye.
 
 
+4 # CTPatriot 2016-11-14 08:51
You know what kyzipster? Take your holier than thou attitude so common amongst the neoliberal left in the Democratic Party and go fuck yourself. You offer nothing constructive in this forum other than reminding us why Clinton supporters need to be cleaned out of the Democratic Party.

Don't worry, you'll always have a home at Correct The Record.
 
 
+1 # crispy 2016-11-15 22:39
"Why do you think Sanders encouraged a vote for Clinton?" Why? What do you mean here?
I am not sure I follow you all the way but I am not clicking you down - as others have because you have interesting points (like the bread crumbs analogy.)
I wish you'd be a little less pretentious though: notice you said " me and Sanders and Warren) rather than "Sanders, Warren and me..."
 
 
+1 # crispy 2016-11-15 22:40
Also who were you accusing here?
"Your total apathy towards what minorities and others are experiencing right now in the culture is something you need to take a serious look at if you really consider yourself a progressive." again a little pretentious if it was all of us...
 
 
-1 # Phillybuster 2016-11-13 15:37
How do you have a conversation with a man who is a pathological liar, who will change his position on a dime (several times) or will deny that he ever held that position in the first place?
 
 
+13 # librarian1984 2016-11-13 17:06
Talking to Trump is Bernie et al's job. OURS is to talk to people. Friends, relatives, coworkers, neighbors -- WITHOUT calling them 'stupid'.

Try listening first. On the surface we have many differences, but dig deeper to find common concerns. Sanders showed us a populism that doesn't rely on making enemies of 'other's. That is the shift we need to make. It's good the GOP voters have risen up. Now let's convince them our way is better. Many of these same people voted for Obama last election. Find out why.

Clinton supporters unwilling to own their mistakes inhibit change or progress and make reconciliation more difficult. Clinton personified an arrogant establishment. We have to be willing to learn from that.

The enemy is the oligarchs.
 
 
-9 # kyzipster 2016-11-13 18:07
"Clinton supporters unwilling to own their mistakes inhibit change or progress and make reconciliation more difficult."

You do realize that would include Sanders and Warren who understood they would have a more secure place at the table with Clinton over Trump?

From what I've seen, most of we 'Clinton supporters' at RSN were fully behind Sanders until he conceded the nomination, and remained behind him to the bitter end.

Now you're telling us to take his advice or we're not progressives? Listen to yourself, you're a contradiction.

Venting online is not the same as objecting to Sanders and Warren attempting bipartisanship with Trump. Good grief.
 
 
-5 # candida 2016-11-13 19:53
Quoting librarian1984:
Talking to Trump is Bernie et al's job. OURS is to talk to people. Friends, relatives, coworkers, neighbors -- WITHOUT calling them 'stupid'.


I agree, librarian, it is the job of white people to talk with other white people about their racism and xenophobia. Good luck with that! In all your comments, you don't ever speak of making common cause with people of color, women or queers. It rather shows your social environment and with whom you relate to more on a day to day level. Go for it! I, however, will not be begging racists to not be racist nor listening to their "pain" of being white. I will be working to build alliance and solidarity with those historically disenfranchised and not those who have recently discovered a victimhood buried in their own prejudices and bigotries that have led them to vote for Republicans who have created the disasterous economic and social policies and outcomes they are now living, much more than the Democrats, bad as they have been. They have lived off of denial and the eternal hope that white people can inevitably lead them to the promised land simply because they share the same skin color. And in that they do get the perqs of white privilege, they are not entirely wrong. You seem to share a similar delusion.
 
 
+8 # librarian1984 2016-11-13 21:15
Oh my goodness, you and kyz are something else. You make outlandish assumptions, not bothering with facts -- and then attack your own made up constructs.

Yes, white people should talk to white people -- on behalf of minorities and immigrants. How do you think change happens? How do you change attitudes? I am related to white people - and white people are the problem. They are also the people I will see at Thanksgiving so yes, those are some of the first people I will speak to in depth about this election. Those are the people I will autopsy this election with and argue with. Those are the people I'll make the case to for switching to progressivism. Those are the people whose minds I will try to change by finding out what their thinking is.

Are you saying I need to talk to blacks and Muslims and Hispanics about the racism? I'm pretty sure they already know. You go ahead and build your alliances. I already have them. I will be trying to build bridges with the people whose minds we need to change.

But you guys just stay right there on your high horses and keep telling yourselves how superior you are. I find your arrogance and ignorance probably MORE disturbing than that of Trump supporters. You are supposed to know better. You insist you're better but you act just as bad.

The DP is doomed with people like you. YOU make the case for needing a third party. Your arrogance ensuring future failure -- because you have learned nothing.
 
 
+7 # librarian1984 2016-11-13 21:22
You're not going to "beg racists not to be racist"?

HUNDREDS of counties that voted for Obama switched to Trump. Did they BECOME racist in the past four years? The DP problem is much bigger than racists. Trump made gains over Romney among blacks and Hispanics. Are THEY racists too? I realize you want the answers to be simple and you really want to stay in your bubble, but there is more to this election than bigotry. People are looking for economic justice. This is an issue where we should be able to find common cause, where Sanders and Warren say we should find common cause -- but you are determined to keep the accusations and ignorance going, dupes of the Deep State while you're sneering at US.

Your arguments are irrational and your willful ignorance is NO BETTER than the people you're excoriating. You would be ashamed if you had the moral honesty. Instead you'll blame everyone else, find fault with others and continue to look down your nose at anyone who disagrees with you -- exactly the attitude that angers middle America -- you know, other AMERICANS.

I guess I shouldn't be TOO surprised. This is exactly the way you treated progressives too.
 
 
-1 # kyzipster 2016-11-15 23:59
Did you know that Steve Bannon has been appointed to a position in the White House?

Do you know who he is?

Your indifference and the approval from fellow forum members is shedding a light on this environment. .

Perhaps you're all so invested in your point of view that's developed through the election that denial of what has happened in our country is understandable, but it's still disgusting.

You seem almost giddy that Trump has won, a president-elect giving a White House office to an unapologetic host of white supremacy groups. He courted them and built a movement within the GOP.

Trump does surprise, I expected him to distance himself from this figure as quickly as possible. I can only assume that he expects the alt-right to help him sail into a second term. And they probably will.
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-11-15 22:42
yep, watch his amazing video here (disable ad blockers to watch)on a French site critical of his lies: WELL WORTH IT!!
http://www.agoravox.tv/tribune-libre/article/un-discours-essentiel-de-donald-71197
 
 
+66 # poetscribe 2016-11-12 18:08
danigo, please read the news about who Trump has picked for his transition team, who he is considering for his cabinet, and what the GOP leadership is already saying they will do now that they control both Congress and the Presidency. Trump is not going to do any of the things he promised workers, and he is going to implement an anti-union, anti-choice, anti-LGBT, anti-clean energy agenda. Wake up!
 
 
+45 # jdd 2016-11-12 19:00
Why speculate, it's a waste of time. Join with Bernie and Liz to do the right thing and lead, don't follow.
 
 
+2 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 10:39
Quoting jdd:
Why speculate, it's a waste of time. Join with Bernie and Liz to do the right thing and lead, don't follow.

We are, we are, and are awaiting a leadership framework for strong opposition to heinous actions. Meanwhile let's not blame Obama for not being more Progressive in the face of overwhelming opposition. Or blame Hillary for being the candidate who made it through our own primary process. On the local level... we a need to register and educate new Progressive voters. Start at your local college.
 
 
-1 # kyzipster 2016-11-16 00:08
Keep saying that all the way through Trump's second term. This country is over. Blindness on the left allowed this to happen, the indifference and refusal to show some solidarity to stand against this fascism. This even took the Republican establishment by surprise.
 
 
+4 # Majikman 2016-11-12 21:44
OK, poet....who is going to ride to the rescue? The dem party? Gimme a break---they'll either roll over like a whipped dog or join in the gutting of the 90%. The 90% are on their own with maybe a Bernie to lead.
These other clowns--Reich, Krugman, Moore, Ash, Galindez have no credibility. They leaped on the HRC bandwagon excoriating all of us who told them they were wrong. Now, instead of begging forgiveness, they want to lead again. NFW!!!
 
 
+6 # savagem13 2016-11-13 05:53
poetscribe

On the other hand, I'd ask you to read this and consider what the alternative represented. http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/11/12/the-anti-trump-protesters-are-tools-oligarchy.html

Probable WWIII. We had no good choice except for Green, and the brainwashed citizenry weren't ready for that yet. Clinton and her backers have made sure of this. And Clinton and her backers are very likely responsible for many of these hate crimes being perpetrated under the guise of "Trump supporters." We cannot afford to accept anything at face value anymore. We need to be vigilant, we need to think, and we need to be aware that the enemy will do ANYTHING to retain their power and their wealth.
 
 
-1 # kyzipster 2016-11-16 00:11
Just stop it. Opposing Clinton for a long list of reasons and voting Green is fine. But stop explaining with this WWIII claim. It's the least likely outcome.

Clinton supporters are not engaging in hate crimes. You are excusing the hate that Trump has legitimized, nothing more.

What's going on in this forum? Admitting it has happened might question the wisdom of voting against Clinton?

Ignoring it might be a better way to hang on to denial.
 
 
+64 # grandlakeguy 2016-11-12 18:08
Mr Reich, you calmly accepted the hijacking of the Democratic Party primary by the DNC and the Clintons. You then became one of Hillary's most prolific apologists and shills by showering us with your articles about why we should support her.

You sir, are the epitome of the problem that traps progressives in a never ending cycle of failure.
Instead of screaming bloody murder about the theft of the nomination from the amazing, totally honest and progressive public servant who energized the country more dramatically than any candidate in our lifetime you accepted the treasonous election theft and backed the war mongering corporatist neo-con candidate.
The voters of the Democratic party did not choose the nominee the corrupt insiders chose her.

You have lost all credibility with Progressives and are locking us into the continued cycle of failure with your proposed solutions.

The ugly truth is this:
AMERICAN ELECTIONS ARE ABSOLUTELY FRAUDULENT!

Until every journalist of conscience focuses on this truth until the electorate wakes up to the fact that they have been participating in a ridiculous game of election theater we can NEVER beat the Republicans. They have been engaging in election theft since the Bush years and the DNC jumped on the bandwagon in the primaries.

There is no reason to believe any result of any election conducted with electronic voting devices using "proprietary software".

WAKE UP AMERICA!
 
 
+18 # stevb 2016-11-12 18:40
Grandlakeguy - you characterize Reich perfectly. Good job.
 
 
+15 # gaga1996 2016-11-12 18:40
Absolutely. Perhaps he thinks we have no memory. He totally trashed Bernie supporters.
 
 
+13 # Merlin 2016-11-12 18:59
grandlakeguy 2016-11-12 18:08

Thanks grandlakeguy! You speak for me here loud and clear.

Quite predictable, and just like clockwork, all those ardent HRC pushers like Marc, Scott, Reich, Moore and the rest, suddenly have become Progressives "again" and now all spouting the same establishment "change the DINO party from within" rhetoric.

Has anyone noticed that they all sound like they are reading from the same script? And from opposite sides of the ideological divide. Yesterday it was "Yea! Clinton, Inc." Today it is "Boo, Clinton, Inc."

But remember! The solution is to "look forward, not backward" to quote Scott, who mimicked Obama. Forget that I backed the corrupt DINO party the other day. Today I'm against it! That is all that is important. Vote your conscience? They don't have one!
 
 
-10 # ericlipps 2016-11-12 20:16
You, sir, are bonkers.

Ranting and raving about how it was "treasonous" not to give Bernie Sanders the Democratic nomination (even Bernie doesn't consider it "theft") reveals both your foaming, wild-eyed hatred of Hillary Clinton and your utter ignorance of what constitutes "treason" under the constitution. Go back and read it.

By the way, the Constitution authorizes the death penalty for treason. Do you mean to imply that the members of the DNC should be taken out and shot for not supporting Bernie Sanders?
 
 
+9 # Bruce Gruber 2016-11-13 07:02
Use care. The twig of narrow girth and weak-leafed substance on which you choose to pontificate is too narrow to support the weight of defensive righteousness you profess.

A campaign of opaque avoidance of policy was funded by status-quo billions to maintain and enhance insulation from 'progressivism' as demonstrated in the sycophantic manipulation of the entire Democratic hierarchy. A poison pill 'personality' was promoted as "leadership" by the insiders committed to incrementally maintaining income inequality as the centerpiece of societal enslavement ... "let the next generation be taught skills regarding how to carry water and shine shoes for us oligarchs - but education, healthcare and infrastructure are doing fine right now".
The insight of American disaffection was offered ONLY Trump as a means of expression. Hopefully the narcissist ego is as much a performance as the bigoted nationalism. Wishfully, the science of successful construction design and finance - a swamp by any name - may have offered a 'salesman' who can bring the violently propagandized "blamers" back on a path of community. Educated, he should not be a supporter of mis- or un- education. It is unlikely that the CEO who "fired-at-will" has no memory of those who jumped the GOP ship to support the mutual, centrist triangulation of his adopted Party's elite.

There's much afoot. Little on which to entertain certainty.
 
 
+2 # anthraxripple 2016-11-13 10:34
Did you get a good score on your GREs?
 
 
+2 # Anonymot 2016-11-14 03:38
Funky - and right on.
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-11-15 01:22
Death penalty for treason AGAINST the STATE is authorized by the constitution... Not treason against an individual. But hey perhaps it was treason against the Republic after all...
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-11-15 01:15
Great JOB grandlakelady I could NOT have said it better. Reich is a hypocrite and a traitor. He contributed to Trumps election for SURE!
What do you think of my postings BELOW (I don't want to repeat here)and of this:
https://www.facebook.com/markcrispinmiller/
petition?
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19
 
 
+12 # jdd 2016-11-12 18:42
Please, You make too much sense. PS Liz Warren is now on board with this idea. The angry. childish demonstrators, their temper tantrums egged on by Soros' gold, have had their axioms smashed and cannot or will not stop to think of why the NYT and all the pundits were wrong, wrong, wrong. Why do they believe the BS from the MSMS. Keep the Times for Sports, or Fashion, or whatever but use the rest to wrap fish. Get over it and do what's best for the nation and world. Real progressives are moving that way.
 
 
+3 # librarian1984 2016-11-12 20:44
I think the 2000 post-election would have fried these poor delicate kids :-)
 
 
+27 # Texas Aggie 2016-11-12 19:08
If you read carefully what the article says, no where does it mention anything about opposing Drumpf when he does things we can agree on. The whole thrust of the article is to oppose the things that he does that are just wrong.
 
 
-4 # Skyelav 2016-11-12 19:08
danigo, you are right.
 
 
+10 # Cassandra2012 2016-11-12 19:17
he did not win fair and square....
 
 
+19 # tm7devils39 2016-11-12 20:36
Neither did Killary in the Primaries...
 
 
+16 # anthraxripple 2016-11-12 22:06
Actually, he did. Killary stole the primary, but there's been no accusation that Trump stole the general election.

Give Killary some credit.

She lost this one ALL BY HERSELF.
 
 
+10 # citizenpaine 2016-11-13 00:22
Quoting anthraxripple:
Actually, he did. Killary stole the primary, but there's been no accusation that Trump stole the general election.

Give Killary some credit.

She lost this one ALL BY HERSELF.


Did you read Greg Palast's article on how the election was stolen by caging and "crosschecking" ? I have not seen a mention of that here. Am I the only one who reads this stuff?
 
 
+1 # Caliban 2016-11-13 02:28
Do you have a source you could mention or are you referring to the article on RSN a while back?
 
 
+7 # lfeuille 2016-11-13 00:27
There have been accusations of voter suppression, a form of cheating. What we don't know is if it was enough to affect the outcome.
 
 
-1 # crispy 2016-11-15 01:10
OH MY GOD! another low informed voter!
Go here and learn( another person lead me to prof Miller):
https://www.facebook.com/markcrispinmiller/

as well as Greg Pallast's article (on RSN)
 
 
+8 # reiverpacific 2016-11-12 19:29
Quoting danigo:
Why not do as Bernie says and work with Trump on the things we can agree on and oppose him on the things we do not? That is the way democracy works. Trump won fair and square. The Democrats blew. They backed the wrong horse and the Dems did not show up at the polls in sufficient numbers (way down from the Obama years). Trump said many things that people agree with. Let's give him a chance instead of running scared before there is any reason.


You've got a strange concept of "Fair and square" (Electoral college) , with which Drumpf has never done ANYTHING in his spoiled-brat life.
 
 
+8 # anthraxripple 2016-11-12 22:08
That's the rules of the game. Hillary gamed the system during the primaries, and I heard NONE of her supporters utter a peep of complaint (remember the "super" delegates).

It's a bit disingenuous to start complaining about the rigged system now - just because Hillary lost.
 
 
+8 # lfeuille 2016-11-13 00:30
It's not because she lost. It's because they will do it to us next time unless we change the system to make it much harder to cheat and provide a legal remedy that can correct the cheating BEFORE the results are certified.
 
 
+4 # Caliban 2016-11-13 02:31
Can't say that HRC rigged the primaries, but agree that Reform #1 for Dems should probably be eliminating the "Super Delegate" category.
 
 
+1 # ericlipps 2016-11-12 20:09
"Won fair and square" with fewer votes than Clinton got, you mean--and AFTER the FBI Director stuck his oar in at JUST the right time to help put his campaign over the top.
 
 
+9 # bardphile 2016-11-12 21:59
I would take vigorous issue with "fair and square," but it's over, and it's time to cooperate--with in the parameters of Liz Warren's widely-circulat ed op-ed, which I trust we've all seen. It's been said that Trump's supporters "took him seriously but not literally." On that thin reed, he should get his honeymoon (even though Obama never got his).
 
 
+9 # jwb110 2016-11-12 22:48
Quoting danigo:
Why not do as Bernie says and work with Trump on the things we can agree on and oppose him on the things we do not? That is the way democracy works. Trump won fair and square. The Democrats blew. They backed the wrong horse and the Dems did not show up at the polls in sufficient numbers (way down from the Obama years). Trump said many things that people agree with. Let's give him a chance instead of running scared before there is any reason.

Democracy in America doesn't by working with each other in the Congress. What's gonna happen in this new Congress is abunch of Social Engineering that will ultimately leave the middle/working class in shambles and shackled with things like Newt wanting to revive the HUAC. You really think you can work with these people!?!?! Get a grip!
 
 
+6 # alnbarthel 2016-11-12 23:03
Trump won fair and square? In which universe? He has 400,000 fewer votes than Clinton. (and I don't even support her!)
 
 
+5 # librarian1984 2016-11-13 17:10
The Clinton campaign knew the winner was determined by the electoral college. They made some bad mistakes. They ran a bad campaign. Bill and Ed Rendell wanted to spend more time in rural areas. The campaign decided not to.

They knew how the winner would be determined.

Many said the race would be determined in the Philadelphia suburbs. The five counties delivered 455,000 votes to Clinton (they were asked for 400,000), but they could not overcome the uprising of the rural voters. The race was lost in the rural areas.

What surprises me is the unwillingness to accept this defeat when no one uttered a peep when SCOTUS appointed W. Where was the outrage then? Where were the tears and protests? THAT outcome was a lot sketchier than this.
 
 
-6 # candida 2016-11-13 20:08
Quoting librarian1984:
What surprises me is the unwillingness to accept this defeat when no one uttered a peep when SCOTUS appointed W. Where was the outrage then? Where were the tears and protests? THAT outcome was a lot sketchier than this.


Oh, Lord, librarian, you really are lost! I never see you comment on he articles having to do with immigration or the border. Perhaps if you did, you'd start getting a clue. Not to mention people are sick and tired of losing the popular vote. This election is plenty sketchy starting with voter suppression and 20 years of right-wing propaganda warfare from Fox, Limbaugh, Breitbart, and the like, effective not only with the conservatives but also so-called progressives on this site who mimicked the same talking points uncritically.
 
 
+8 # anthraxripple 2016-11-13 23:17
2008:
ADULT POPULATION: 234,080,000
OBAMA: 69,499,000
MCCAIN: 59,948,000
TOTAL: 129,447,000
PERCENTAGE: 55.30%
DIFFERENCE (with 2016): +6.93% (+9,604,000)

2012:
ADULT POPULATION: 240,393,000
ROMNEY: 60,934,000
OBAMA: 65,916,000
TOTAL: 126,850,000
PERCENTAGE: 52.77%
DIFFERENCE (with 2016): +4.4% (+7,007,000)

2016:
ADULT POPULATION: 247,774,000
CLINTON: 60,063,000 [less than Romney]
TRUMP: 59,780,000 [less than Romney or McCain]
TOTAL: 119,843,000
PERCENTAGE: 48.37%
DIFFERENCE (with 2012): -4.4% (-7,007,000)
DIFFERENCE (with 2008): -6.93% (-9,604,000)

*Compared to 8 years ago, 9.6 million fewer people voted for one of the 2 main party candidates this time. This is a drop of 6.93%.

*This is the proof that a candidate people believe is liberal would have won against Trump in a landslide.

HINT: I'm not the only one who voted for Obama in '08, but refused to vote for Hillary in '16. I had the sense to vote for Stein anyway, and make sure I was still counted. Most decided not to bother voting at all.

*This is also proof that Trump didn't "win" as much as Clinton LOST.
 
 
+3 # librarian1984 2016-11-14 01:04
Do you keep track of what articles I post on? Do you keep track of other people too? Why?

Your inferences are quite remarkable. Kreskin-like! Quick, how many fingers am I holding up -- and which one is it? :-D

Here's a curious (but inconvenient) truth: progressive criticisms of Clinton have no overlap with GOP criticisms of Clinton. But don't let facts interfere with your narrative, yeah?

My suggestion to you is to take a few days to chill. Your posts have been fairly incoherent and irrational since Hillary Clinton lost the election to Donald Trump.

Guilt? Remorse? Fragility? (I thought I'd Kreskin you, too :-)
 
 
+2 # Anonymot 2016-11-14 03:44
Librarian, it"s a combination of little kids stomping their feet and big kids like Eric and Candyduh incapable of thinking beyond their jerking knee.
 
 
+2 # librarian1984 2016-11-14 09:23
Crazy, right? Hothouse flowers. We are handling this better because we realize this election bs has been going on a while. Why didn't we work to fix the EC after 2000? It's hard to be outraged at THEM when our leaders did nothing to fix it for SIXTEEN years .. or the software problems .. or voter suppression .. or rebuilding the Voter Rights Acts ...

Secondly, it's the outcome many of us deemed the lesser evil. I for one am thrilled we might have a non-bombing relationship with Russia. Sounds good to me!

While Trump looks chastened and scared sh!teless (and that's BEFORE today's briefings), I note the protests are focused 100% on Trump not being legitimate. (Live by the sword blah blah :-) Have you seen ONE sign saying they need counselling if Hillary doesn't become president? Fear of Trump is totally driving it (except for the false flag component) and that fear was fomented by HRC.

Shallow reactionary thinking is not going to be helpful but everyone CAN contribute. I hear there are some lucky minorities who will be informed about racism by kyz and candida :-D The white neolibs are going to go tell the blacks and Muslims how they FEEL. It should be educational for EVERYONE :-D

So clueless, so unwilling to learn -- yet so arrogant.
 
 
+10 # lfeuille 2016-11-13 00:20
Watching what's going on in his transition team provides hints about what is to come and it is not good. He has surrounded himself with really horrible people and does not appear to have any interest in working with Bernie. One conciliatory speech does not make a peacemaker. It is just tradition.

Trump was not fair and square. There were widespread complaints of voter suppression. It may or may not have included rigging voting machines but there are other forms of cheating.

There were a couple of big things progressives agreed with Trump on like trade and no more regime change. But the things we disagree on a huge too and people really didn't agree on which one of them was worse.

I think you are distorting Bernie's statement. He did say he would work with Trump on efforts to make life better for the working class but he made it clear that he would not be abandoning the poor, elderly, minorities gays immigrants, Muslims or anyone else who has been a target of Trump's bigotry. As I read it, the emphasis was on the warning.
 
 
+4 # John Puma 2016-11-13 03:14
To danigo:

Herr Hair HAS his chance, de facto.

This does not mean those who did/do not support him must sit idly by. Did the GOP do that since 2009?

The idiocy, however, is Reich's (continued) magical thinking, essentially: the Dem Party establishment SHOULD resign.

This is the kind of thinking that got us here and is, most likely, "offered" to make sure we remain here.
 
 
0 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 11:21
Quoting danigo:
Why not do as Bernie says and work with Trump on the things we can agree on and oppose him on the things we do not? That is the way democracy works. Trump won fair and square. The Democrats blew. They backed the wrong horse and the Dems did not show up at the polls in sufficient numbers (way down from the Obama years). Trump said many things that people agree with. Let's give him a chance instead of running scared before there is any reason.

There is zero reason to trust this guy. His whole life is an open book of cons. You are right, we did not get enough to show up for Hillary. But that doesn't make Trump anyone to compromise with. There is nothing acceptable on the table. Nothing.
 
 
+5 # elizabethblock 2016-11-13 17:21
I'm afraid you're right. The Democrats have become the party of the "middle," i.e. the rich, and the non-rich know it.
 
 
+1 # Timshel 2016-11-13 20:10
danigo: Didn't you read the RSN article which showed Trump won at least three states only after they purged their voter rolls. That's not fair and square. I cannot stand HRC but Trump did not win fairly. Republicans cheated. If Clinton smells top high heaven their odor reaches hell.
 
 
+3 # Wordslinger 2016-11-14 02:28
Quoting danigo:
Why not do as Bernie says and work with Trump on the things we can agree on and oppose him on the things we do not? That is the way democracy works. Trump won fair and square. The Democrats blew. They backed the wrong horse and the Dems did not show up at the polls in sufficient numbers (way down from the Obama years). Trump said many things that people agree with. Let's give him a chance instead of running scared before there is any reason.

Bullshit. Hillary and the DNC conspired and successfully cheated Sanders out of winning the primary. Hillary IS the establishment. She wasn't our candidate.

As for the Pussy Grabber with the dead rat on his head ... you want us to trust him? We should give racism and insanity a chance?

No fucking way. We will make Trump's presidency a nightmare. Guaranteed.
 
 
+3 # librarian1984 2016-11-14 09:41
I'm torn, Wordslinger. I want to upvote your 'Pussy grabber with dead rat' depiction, but I disagree .. mildly. I agree with Sanders that we should give him a chance and cooperate when possible.

Has there EVER been a stranger election or a more unpredictable president? He was a Democrat most of his life, has signalled lots of compromises already and he looks like a scared blustery bunny in the headlights. Furthermore he is NOT tight with GOP establishment.

Americans just sent a bomb to Washington and maybe Sanders can take advantage of that. Trump lacks specifics. The GOP lacks specifics. The Dems lack will. But Sanders has will and lots of specifics ... beautiful populist specifics.

I would LOVE to see an odd couple thing happen between those two.

I'm willing to reserve judgment based on actions. Washington has been logjammed for years. I don't think Donald Trump is going to let THAT go on. Bomb blows up logjam. GOP fights infrastructure. Realignments. Entertainment politics. You think we're not going to get a presidential reality show?

People may become more engaged with their government. OR we could meet up in gulags. Let's wait and see. It STILL beats having a fracking Bush or a Clinton in the White Houe imo.

My opinion, we give them both a CHANCE. A short chance. And anything that doesn't go our way, we become the nightmare. Hell yeah, I'm there. You might not know this but I can be an incredible pain in the a$$ :-D
 
 
+3 # Kaylee 2016-11-14 23:22
It sickens me that this comment has so many dislikes. If the democratic party is going to follow the republican example of obstructionism even when the citizens are in desperate need of reform just to spite the opposing team, then I am out for life. If the DNC isn't with Bernie, then I am not with the DNC.
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-11-15 01:47
Watch your candidate lie here (as he did 94% of the time according to factcheck in the last debate) except here he lies to YOU -useful idiots who voted for him (as shown by his current team composition)
It's in English just hard to find on a US site...

http://www.agoravox.tv/tribune-libre/article/un-discours-essentiel-de-donald-71197

disable adblocker apps if the video does not play.

Watch it too Hilary/stein supporters (I voted Stein.)
It's an amazing video (all scripted of course)
 
 
+6 # anthraxripple 2016-11-12 16:51
FINALLY someone prescribing the exact medicine for our disease.
 
 
+19 # GoGreen! 2016-11-12 18:28
Wrong! The exact medicine for our disease is to NEVER AGAIN VOTE FOR ANY DEMOCRAT! Wasn't it enough that they voted in NAFTA? At that point all the labor movement should have quit funding any one who voted for that bill to put globalization into high gear and ship our jobs off to slave labor camps in Mexico, China and now the world.

Watch out!! Here come the TPP and this will be the total death knell for our nation. You got a shitty job now? You will look back at these as the 'good old days'. The TPP sets up a corporately appointed Tribunal to decide if we in this nation can pass any laws to set workers standards or protect the health of our people and our air, water and soil. If we pass any law the might possibly reduce t he expected profits of any international corporation they can file a suit before this tribunal to demand that the agency that passed that law must pay the off shore corporation what they had expected to make in profit. Not being able to do that, the protective law will not be enforced. We can get sick and die---but hey!! The corporations are making big bucks!

The Democrats have not done diddly squat for the working people of this nation in decades!! Enough already. Loyal Democrats are the reason Trump won. We need more political parties for new ideas and competition.
 
 
+5 # anthraxripple 2016-11-12 22:10
GO GET 'EM TIGER!

That 1% that Stein got (including from me), might not have won anything for the Greens (nor will it ever), but it furthers the cause of teaching the Democrats a lesson.

If they don't listen to us this time - WHO KNOWS? - MAYBE Stein could get 1 POINT 5 percent of the vote in 4 years!

LOL!
 
 
-5 # candida 2016-11-13 20:14
Teaching the Democrats a lesson?!?! That is sick and cruel to Democrats and all others! esp the LOL. Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, anthrax, but seems like not.
 
 
+4 # anthraxripple 2016-11-13 23:19
Yes. I was "cruel" to the DNC, after what they did to me along with millions of other voters they totally disregarded and ridiculed with their pre-emptive superdelegate wall, and their Big D Republican shoved down our throats.
 
 
+2 # Caliban 2016-11-13 12:24
"Put globalization into high gear"? It has been in high gear ever since Americans started buying moderately priced, high - quality cars from Asia.

And precisely because it is "global", we should be thinking of negotiating better terms for US workers rather than about isolating ourselves from the rest of world.
 
 
-5 # candida 2016-11-13 20:11
Quoting GoGreen!:
Loyal Democrats are the reason Trump won. We need more political parties for new ideas and competition.


It was actually the disloyal Democrats that are the reason trump won...4 million of them, to be exact.
 
 
+3 # anthraxripple 2016-11-13 22:58
Yep. I'm one of them. I'm not loyal to a party. I care more about principles than team membership:

"Some people change their party for the sake of their principles; others their principles for the sake of their party."

-Winston Churchill
 
 
+3 # anthraxripple 2016-11-13 23:20
By the way.

I think the disloyalty started when the DNC refused to listen to millions of us. We warned you, and now you can deal with it - or as the DNC (and Clinton's paid trolls) told us after she "won" the primary -

GET OVER IT.
 
 
+3 # librarian1984 2016-11-14 01:09
Difficult to know which is more annoying -- the whining or the denial.

What a legacy Hillary is leaving!
 
 
+7 # Jayceecool 2016-11-12 18:12
Great plan, but too smart and courageous for Democrats...
 
 
+14 # tedrey 2016-11-12 18:30
You may not have noticed, Robert, but many here have been advocating that program, discussing it, and taking steps towards it. The choice between Plan A and Plan B has been at the center of our recent debates. (I myself do not view it as an either/or choice.)

My personal opinion: eventually you may join us, once you've suffered a certain amount of ostracism due to recent undesirable choices. But don't expect a leadership role in the near future. Feelings are still hurting.
 
 
+22 # Emmanuel Goldstein 2016-11-12 18:25
Plan A is certainly worth pursuing. I would heartily support it!

Plan B is worth pursuing as well. It should include the Green Party and reach out to the nation's Independents, who are more numerous than the partisans of either major party. It must also reach out to all the disenfranchised citizens (poor, working class, students, etc.) who were abandoned by the Clintonian "New Democrat" transformation of 1992.
 
 
+2 # Anonymot 2016-11-14 03:48
Last line should add Deep State.
 
 
+33 # stevb 2016-11-12 18:37
Robert - The democratic party no longer exists. Wake up. The Clintons & Obama have moved it so far to the right it is now the Republican Party - from its neoconservative regime change foreign policy to its neoliberal economics to the ACA it stole from the ultra right wing Heritage Foundation, which is the best thing private insurers and drug companies have ever seen as it becomes unaffordable - what a joke.
But what is more astonishing. Robert, is that you keep talking about starting from scratch to build a movement. The movement is already in place and has been for decades and longer. Why do you ignore existing third parties? Tell me why, because your position is illogical. Why aren't you promoting a third party and encouraging and facilitating coalition building among them? It's like you just don't get it as you demonstrated in your debate with Chris Hedges. People listen to you Robert. I wish you'd take a principled, realistic and rational stand.
 
 
+4 # MsAnnaNOLA 2016-11-12 21:00
Still shilling I suspect.
 
 
+19 # LionMousePudding 2016-11-12 18:45
I don't know if Trump won fair and square. There was a guy at my polling place in a certainly Democratic neighborhood who scared off two voters just as I watched in only 15 minutes. It was quarter to 8 so there was no time to call the cops but I bet he had been there all day.

The poll workers had not been taught what is legal in my state. So in a non-ID-required state, they allowed this:

You walk in. A guy confronts you aggressively. He has a suit and some sort of official looking button on one side; military medals on the other.

He says "Where's your ballot? You can't vote without a ballot." He indicates the dummy ballot they sent us by mail, which is required rabbit cage bedding, if anything. He knew he was not allowed to touch it, at least.

Then you say "I don't have one." So he says "Where's your ID?" Either you show him your ID and he lets you go past to the TOTALLY NORMAL TABLES WHERE WE ALWAYS START. Or you don't have it and he says "You can't vote without your ID." If you don't know better, you LEAVE and God KNOWS how many people actually come back. Very few I would imagine.

MORE.. (WTF we get to write three letters here?
 
 
+25 # LionMousePudding 2016-11-12 18:47
I was confused by the 'Where's your ballot" thing because I thought maybe the machines were down. But when he asked for ID, I knew. I had purposely left it at home because I am proud to be in a state where it is not required. I said "I don't have to; that's not the law." ONLY THEN did a poll worker indicate to me that i should go over to the TOTALLY NORMAL tables where they look up your name, you sign with no ID, and you go into the voting booth; pick the candidates; press the red button; and presto chango, you voted. (We have a paper trail too)

I purposefully did not tell you I am in the blue state of New Jersey, because you would think this did not matter. But IF THEY DID THIS IN MY TEENY SECTION OF JERSEY CITY, CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW IT WAS IN SWING STATES??


A good friend of mine told me it happened to two of her other friends. I don't know where.

Cheating from the bottom may be just as successful as cheating from the top.
 
 
+5 # anthraxripple 2016-11-13 00:37
Who did you report him to?
 
 
+3 # LionMousePudding 2016-11-14 11:53
The ACLU elections division. They actually called me back this morning to confirm details and will have someone local contact me as well.

btw the above friend of mine now says she has three other, not two, friends who experienced this kind of behavior. I'm going to see if she can convince each of them to report it.
 
 
+3 # LionMousePudding 2016-11-14 11:57
Wanted to add: I did demand his ID as I was leaving but he turned away and aggressively said "Chop chop! Where's your ballot?" to the next person. I'm small.. female... and it seemed to be legal because apparently the poll workers thought it was. So I didn't do more than that.

It wasn't.

I spoke to someone on the street who had seen someone go home saying she forgot her ID. I am sure he sent dozens upon dozens of people away.
 
 
+14 # Donna Fritz 2016-11-12 18:49
Jill Stein, who I voted for this election as well as 2012, got exactly 1% of the vote.

On that, I've decided to register Democrat for the first time in my life. I'm 60.

Now couldn't be a more opportune time to take over the Democratic Party, as Bernie Sanders recommended.

It's clear to me after this election that the Green Party has no future in American politics. They just don't have the infrastructure or the money needed to compete nationally or rarely even locally.

If the Green Party couldn't make a decent showing this election where we had the two most hated presidential candidates in American history facing each other, then when do the die-hard Green Party loyalists see this happening? If not this election, when?

Bernie gave the Democratic Party establishment a scare. Donald Trump gave them and their supporters a wake-up call.

If Bernie decides to run in 2020 which he already announced he hasn't ruled out, the party establishment won't be able to afford to ignore him.

We're almost there. Don't blow it. Follow my lead and register Democrat and work to overthrow the party from within.
 
 
+6 # Aaron Tovish 2016-11-12 19:09
Now you're talking!
Reich's call for the Democratic leadership to resign will not get the hoped for response. Some of these full-time politicos will have to be carried out of their offices and deposited on the sidewalk; hopefully most will leave peaceably when they realize their services are no longer wanted. But this will require persistent and concerted organizing at all level of the Party. Learn how the Dems operate locally, statewide, and nationally. Know the rules and procedures -- and the deadlines. We have just over a year to transform the Party into a progressive machine for victory in the mid-term elections. Let's get busy! (Reich are you with us?)
 
 
+3 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 08:14
Quoting Aaron Tovish:
Now you're talking!
Reich's call for the Democratic leadership to resign will not get the hoped for response. Some of these full-time politicos will have to be carried out of their offices and deposited on the sidewalk; hopefully most will leave peaceably when they realize their services are no longer wanted. But this will require persistent and concerted organizing at all level of the Party. Learn how the Dems operate locally, statewide, and nationally. Know the rules and procedures -- and the deadlines. We have just over a year to transform the Party into a progressive machine for victory in the mid-term elections. Let's get busy! (Reich are you with us?)


Ok, I will help, but I don't know enough to lead. Please tell us where to start locally... with email newsletters and social media it should be possible to move enough people to do this. LEADERSHIP... help!!!
 
 
+1 # Caliban 2016-11-13 13:10
Hi # chicagoflygirls -- I suggest starting locally with your county, town or even precinct Democratic party organization. Contact information should be available online.

Then get on your local party mailing list and GO TO MEETINGS and get involved. It is interesting, fun, and you'll meet some great people -- and do some good in the process.

I should add that a bullying fool such as the one #LionMousePuddi ng describes wouldn't last two minutes here; precinct workers from both parties would have a Sheriff's deputy on site in minutes.
 
 
+13 # fsboos 2016-11-12 19:36
An alternative would be instant run-off voting. This would eliminate the "lesser of two evils" problem, and I believe the numbers for alternative parties would shoot up drastically. It would force the Democrats to heed their anguished progressive base.
 
 
+3 # MsAnnaNOLA 2016-11-12 21:04
Stein may have gotten more votes. Fraction magic with bev Harris of blackboxvoting. org allows them to assign a percentage by candidate.
 
 
-1 # Caliban 2016-11-13 02:40
Right on, Donna Fritz.

And same about the working from within if you are already a member.
 
 
+14 # Elroys 2016-11-12 18:51
Sounds good to me - no need to start another party - however, if the old thinking Dems do not resign, then we leave them and must start again. I suggest tht people like Bernie, Eliabeth W. Robert Reich and others announce a few specific times for online live gatherings - post-Xmas - perhaps use MoveOn tech support - and co-convene conversations among 1000s of people that would engage in this conversation.
Outcomes:
An engaged, committed group of citizens
Create and ask volunteers for a variety of "committees"(ye s - structure)
Committee to create and write the new Bill of Responsibilities
Next - a team to design, create e new true compelling vision of America and our role in the world in the 21st century
Then we get to work
 
 
-4 # ericlipps 2016-11-12 20:22
Quote:
If the "old thinking" Democrats (i.e., those who don't support Bernie Sanders straight down the line) don't "resign," then we leave them and must start again.
Okay. Welcome to perpetual GOP rule. Like it or not, fleeing the Democrats to tilt at windmills as Greens or members of some new party will just hand election after election to the Republicans, except perhaps for brief intervals after some Watergate-scale scandal.
 
 
+13 # MsAnnaNOLA 2016-11-12 21:06
If trump is successful you may be having that anyway. He ran to the left of Clinton on some things. Shame on them for nominating her.
 
 
+6 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 08:11
Quoting ericlipps:
Quote:
If the "old thinking" Democrats (i.e., those who don't support Bernie Sanders straight down the line) don't "resign," then we leave them and must start again.


Okay. Welcome to perpetual GOP rule. Like it or not, fleeing the Democrats to tilt at windmills as Greens or members of some new party will just hand election after election to the Republicans, except perhaps for brief intervals after some Watergate-scale scandal.
I agree, Hillary got the popular vote... I see no reason to burn down the Party completely. I say the NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY, with Elizabeth Warren, Bernie and other Progressives leading. They have they policies that the American People want, we just did not register and energize enough NEW DEMOCRATIC VOTERS to win. AND we have to effectively fight the miss-informatio n blizzard that attacks us on social media. Lies and the liars who have the public ear are a real danger.
 
 
-5 # angelfish 2016-11-12 18:51
Indeed, Mr. Secretary. We DO!
 
 
+31 # suzyskier 2016-11-12 18:54
The main thing that needs to be done is to make sure that little weasel from Wisconsin and his smirky friend from Kentucky don't get away with any of their dark plans. We must do everything we can to prevent these users from eliminating Medicare ,Social Security and what we can do to enhance "Obama Care". This about the cruelest agenda I have ever seen. The dopes that voted for these two have just written themselves off, now we have to save them! What really burns me up is the hypocrisy of Ryan, using his father's Social Security to pay his way through College and now wanting to take away people's own money and invest it? I guess he doesn't have long term memory as far as 2008 goes and never studied The Great Depression. Both of these happened under Republican Presidents.
 
 
+7 # economagic 2016-11-12 21:03
Well said.
 
 
+5 # MsAnnaNOLA 2016-11-12 21:08
Read the wikileaks. Clinton was in the bag for the big banks and planning on privatizing social security!!!

Have not seen trump advocate this.
 
 
+3 # Activista 2016-11-12 22:07
www.yahoo.com/news/trump-advisers-back-deregulation-privatized-social-security-143733551--politics.html
"But the man heading the Trump transition team's Social Security effort? Michael Korbey, a former lobbyist who has spent much of his career advocating for cutting and privatizing the program.

"It's a failed system, broken and bankrupt," Korbey said as a lobbyist in the mid 1990s. Korbey acknowledged that some of the reforms his group backed would hurt retirees, but "our constituents aren't just senior citizens," he told a newspaper in 1996. A decade later, as a senior adviser to the Social Security Administration, Korbey was a public advocate for the George W. Bush administration' s failed attempt to privatize Social Security."
 
 
-4 # Caliban 2016-11-13 02:45
Not yet. Wait 6 months or so MsAnnaNOLA.
 
 
+2 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 07:58
Quoting MsAnnaNOLA:
Read the wikileaks. Clinton was in the bag for the big banks and planning on privatizing social security!!!

Have not seen trump advocate this.


Cite you source for this... please. Just copy and paste the wikileaks you saw . Thanks
 
 
+4 # librarian1984 2016-11-13 17:18
Just go to wikileaks and do a keyword search. There are many individual emails that support Miss's assertion.
 
 
+5 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 08:05
Quoting suzyskier:
The main thing that needs to be done is to make sure that little weasel from Wisconsin and his smirky friend from Kentucky don't get away with any of their dark plans. We must do everything we can to prevent these users from eliminating Medicare ,Social Security and what we can do to enhance "Obama Care". This about the cruelest agenda I have ever seen. The dopes that voted for these two have just written themselves off, now we have to save them! What really burns me up is the hypocrisy of Ryan, using his father's Social Security to pay his way through College and now wanting to take away people's own money and invest it? I guess he doesn't have long term memory as far as 2008 goes and never studied The Great Depression. Both of these happened under Republican Presidents.


Sorry, the people who put Scott Walker and Ryan in are happy with the results, apparently. They don't want to pay taxes for much of anything, including workers promised pensions, or schools. They don't drive through Milwaukee because of the traffic and the black people They are older, white, landed, often retired, relatively well off middle class voters with lots of guns who go hunting after work and go to fish frys at supper clubs on Friday nights. They love the dark plans promised to them. Other than Madison, Wisconsin is now a conservative state.
 
 
-8 # Skyelav 2016-11-12 19:10
how about this: Conservatism is really good for some people (places and things.) Progressivism is really good for some people (places and things.) How do we find the great middle ground?
 
 
+16 # reiverpacific 2016-11-12 19:35
Quoting Skyelav:
how about this: Conservatism is really good for some people (places and things.) Progressivism is really good for some people (places and things.) How do we find the great middle ground?


"Middle Ground" -or milquetoast pandering- is what "Liberals" have been wasting their time trying to find lo' these many election cycles!
You lot need a good dose of progressive, pro-populist SOCIALISM to tilt the way-right playing field away from the 0.1%; -and a trustworthy, truth printing media.
Good luck with the latter.
 
 
-14 # ericlipps 2016-11-12 20:25
If you need SOCIALISM for this purpose, good luck to you whatever the state of the media. You'll need it. In fact, you'll need divine intervention.
 
 
+12 # reiverpacific 2016-11-12 20:57
Quoting ericlipps:
If you need SOCIALISM for this purpose, good luck to you whatever the state of the media. You'll need it. In fact, you'll need divine intervention.


There speaks the voice of pre-emptive defeatism.
With THAT attitude, you may as well join the TeaThuglican excuse for a cheating, gerrymandering, win at ANY cost by all and any means party!
 
 
+8 # Bruce Gruber 2016-11-13 07:18
The corporate owned media is handmaiden to the oligarchy that owns the controlling stock in everything that affects our lives - food, insurance, transportation, military investment, healthcare, education, and government. The Boards of Directors and CEOs are the minions who 'operate' the system. GET REAL! It is "socialism" for the plutocrats - "Free Market" for THEM to exploit. Try to influence "ownership of the means of production" with your five shares of GE or AT&T at a shareholder's meeting. Investing in THEIR insider stock market just gives them play money with which to gamble.
 
 
-2 # crispy 2016-11-15 01:07
yes BRUCE so let's do something about it:
sign this petition( unconstitutiona l for them to do - and a $1000 fine - but the future of the Republic is at stake)

https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19

Next let's work to get A Constitutional Assembly: things are so bad isn't it worth the risks.The sates CONTROL the Assembly, not Congress bw;read here:

The best way to go and how it works:
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No3_Rogersonline.pdf

WE CAN USE OUR CONSTITUTION IF WE ARE WILLING TO LEARN AND EACH ACT IN OUR STATE.
 
 
+1 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 07:57
Quoting reiverpacific:
Quoting Skyelav:
how about this: Conservatism is really good for some people (places and things.) Progressivism is really good for some people (places and things.) How do we find the great middle ground?


"Middle Ground" -or milquetoast pandering- is what "Liberals" have been wasting their time trying to find lo' these many election cycles!
You lot need a good dose of progressive, pro-populist SOCIALISM to tilt the way-right playing field away from the 0.1%; -and a trustworthy, truth printing media.
Good luck with the latter.


Where are the new Progressive leaders coming from??? Red State areas have huge swaths where Republicans run uncontested or Democrats are constantly, and expensively, defeated.
 
 
+3 # DaveEwoldt 2016-11-13 11:11
Hey, reiverpacific. I'm thinking that one of the things we need to do is quit referring to fairness and equity as socialism. I'm not sure what term to use to replace it, though.
 
 
+4 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 11:35
Skyelav"]how about this: Conservatism is really good for some people (places and things.)
Because Conservative policies do NOT look good for all the country. Or even a small part of the country. They call for no / low taxes, no regulations, no safety net, silent bigotry, idological beliefs showing unconcern for guest workers / especially those who have been here 1-2-3 generations, and for poor children and families. That is absolutely their policies and they are not good for the America I want to live in.
 
 
+4 # Skyelav 2016-11-12 19:11
P. S. Gee thanks Reich, now you tell us.
 
 
+7 # Patriot 2016-11-13 01:19
Skyelav, my sentiments exactly. Reich, you waited just a bit too long to talk about DNC leadership resigning! Where were you whent all of the superdelegates endorsed Clinton before she evenbegan to campaign? When the DNC accused Sanders' campaign of "spying" on the DNC and locked him out of his supporter base records? When Clinton went from "$15/hour is too much" to "I support $15/hour"? Where were you when DWS set the debate schedule at a mere handful of debates, all scheduled for a football evening? Where where you when the Arizona primaries were so screwed up, or the Nevada debacle occurred?

Now, after Clinton, the fraudulent candidate of the DNC, has LOST, suddenly you think DNC leadership should resign? My God, what a mealy-mouthed hyprocrite you are!
 
 
+13 # eduardoben 2016-11-12 19:16
Robert Reich. YOU SHOULD RESIGN. All of you who knowingly or blindly supported and defended the fascist, racist Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton and either accepted or knowingly ignored the millions, yes MILLIONS, of deaths around the world caused by Hillary and Bill's wars and embargoes from the blocking of affordable HIV drugs for millions of HIV + South Africans carried out by Bill Clinton, Al Gore and John Podesta and the embargo of Iraq that killed 500,000 Iraqi children to the wars aided, initiated or prolonged by Hillary Clinton in Iraq, Libya and Syria... you should all shut the hell up and go someplace far away and contemplate the evils you have been abetting or denying for the last two or three decades by the Democratic leadership. We don't need that kind of wisdom. We need the kind of WISDOM that values all life on Planet Earth and shuns violence, war and collective punishment as viable or acceptable tools of foreign policy or diplomacy. You seem how unaware of how inappropriate it is for YOU to peddle your canned wisdom after so blindly supporting a war criminal for so long. If you Democratic Party hacks and shills had not sold denial for so long, perhaps someone else would have been the democratic nominee and the current president elect. Its so arrogant of you to say ANYTHING right now. Take a year off and find a monastery.
 
 
+1 # crispy 2016-11-15 00:54
I AGREE: Shame on You Reich. Couldn't you use your influence at DNC to get a new team?
NOW let's try to get a Constitutional Assembly to reform the constitution (at least 3 new amendments) like one getting rid of the Electoral College.We need Constitutional amendments using the states, not Congress of course and it is possible although it was never used (there were attempts.)
Here is a GOOD analysis of how it works and gives states the power, not congress:

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No3_Rogersonline.pdf

WE CAN USE OUR CONSTITUTION IF WE ARE WILLING TO LEARN AND EACH ACT IN OUR STATE.

Meanwhile sign this;
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19
 
 
+14 # margpark 2016-11-12 19:16
I don't know about the state Dem. committee but the Dem. comittee in Shelby Co. is so fractured they were not allowed by the State Dem Committee to make up the ballot. Moreover they haven't put up any good candidates in several years. They get some schmuck to run and he gets beaten. Don't know what Trump will decide to do but he has already angered the Republican congress by decining to pursue destroying Obamacare. He is a carny at heart like P.T. Barnum and is not and has never been a Republican. So we must wait and see what we need to fight. I think we will have to pursue plan B. I don't see these folks resigning. I will follow Bernie's lead.
 
 
-2 # crispy 2016-11-15 01:03
sign this petition( unconstitutiona l for them to do, but the future of the Republic is at stake)

https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19

Next let's work to get A Constitutional Assembly: things are so bad isn't it worth the risks.The sates CONTROL the Assembly, not Congress bw;read here:

The best way to go and how it works:
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No3_Rogersonline.pdf

WE CAN USE OUR CONSTITUTION IF WE ARE WILLING TO LEARN AND EACH ACT IN OUR STATE.
 
 
-2 # crispy 2016-11-15 01:03
sign this petition(uncons titutional for them to do but the future of the Republic is at stake)

https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19

Next let's work to get A Constitutional Assembly: things are so bad it's worth the risks and the sates CONTROL the Assembly, not Congress bw.read here;

The best way to go and how it works:
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No3_Rogersonline.pdf

WE CAN USE OUR CONSTITUTION IF WE ARE WILLING TO LEARN AND EACH ACT IN OUR STATE.
 
 
+3 # ahmabear 2016-11-12 19:19
I am not sure any vestige of the told party will be sufficient. Whatever coalition that goes forward needs to contain an honest and open dialogue between White middle class disenfranchised and those of color, and needs to be able to include relatively comfortable white middle class and people of color who may n ever have know comfort in the same sense. And lets not forget environmental degradation, that for the most part is not included in these dialogues. I believe this new coalition can create a useful discussion centered on the rejection of capitalism. Capitalism is the single force that has disenfranchised them all. It seeks profit over human well being, and regards the waste of enterprise as a necessary side effect. Isn reality both people and resources are nothing but a means to profit, and this need to be corrected. that is the common point I think most of the disaffected people can gather around and move forward to a new future.
 
 
+1 # Patriot 2016-11-13 01:24
One more time: Capitalism is NOT the evil we should fear. It is the failure of our so-called "representative s" to represent most of our interests most of the time that is the failure.

One of the things we most need is the ability to recall state legislators, governors, congressmen, when they go back on their promises or pass legislation that harms the MAJORITY of the country, to benefit the few who already are extraordinarily priviliged.

Capitalism is the system whereby the means of production, and the products produced, are privately held> Nothing more!

WHAT do you who so denigrate capitalism propose to put in its place? I've asked that before: How about an ANSWER?
 
 
+5 # treerapper 2016-11-13 06:42
But, Patriot, what cannot be left out of the definition is that capital's purpose is to create more wealth and its accumulation becomes the sole purpose - the end rather than a means to some other end.

While the basic meaning of capitalism might be relatively innocuous, it's meaning in the larger sense has led us down a pretty awful path. It would be very nice if we could enforce the basic meaning and it would end there but, just as we are a product of our genetics combined with the environment in which we live, so the capitalism that's being practiced today is a combination of the formal definition and the road it has traveled.

In the process, democracy as we expect it to be has been squandered and made subservient to capitalism and its relentless appetite.
 
 
+3 # DaveEwoldt 2016-11-13 11:23
Patriot, your definition of capitalism is just way to shallow to be meaningful. Capitalism is undemocratic; it requires a utilitarian view of both nature and labor; its "hidden hand" is a form of mysticism; it requires profit and infinite growth on a finite planet; it requires a 5% unemployment level to be considered healthy--and then castigates the unemployed as losers.

The alternative in a technologically advanced society is steady-state economics where the focus shifts from being bigger to becoming better. The only "drawback" is that people who base their status on paper wealth instead of healthy relationships lose their sense of self-worth.
 
 
+3 # Patriot 2016-11-14 03:58
Dave, you and Tree still didn't quite answer my question: With what will you replace caitalism?

My defense of capitalism is that we have ALLOWED government to neglect its job of seeing to it that capitalism is regulated to prevent abuse. I've made this argument before, and don't want to write it out again, now. Ergo: We LET the regulatory agencies be gutted, LET unions be destroyed, LET the burden of taxes fall to us, instead of on business and the wealthy. WE KEEP RE-ELECTING PEOPLE WHO HAVE HARMED US! That's OUR fault, not some inherent function of capitalism.
 
 
+3 # DaveEwoldt 2016-11-14 11:39
Ok, Patriot, I'll try to be more direct. Capitalism will be replaced with steady-state economics.

The simple fact of the matter is that there is no way to adequately regulate a system that is founded on faulty assumptions. Attempts to do so will simply become more ludicrous or draconian and make government look like the villain instead of the system it is trying to get a handle on.

You keep talking about slapping Band-Aids on symptoms. I'm much more interested in digging out the root disease.
 
 
0 # treerapper 2016-11-16 05:41
Patriot, I agree with your conclusions and no, I don't have an answer as to what should replace it because anything that would replace it is still based on the consumer being at best, naive and at worst, ignorant.

We don't even teach civics any more in this country. How could we expect people to be a little bit savvy about investing in their own well-being. If you analyze how people vote, they invariably vote against their own self interest. With that sort of understanding or the lack thereof, can we really expect arriving at something that the gangsters, conmen, slickos and those well positioned won't take advantage of and manipulate? And since governments are made up of these very people, the results are not surprising.
 
 
+1 # librarian1984 2016-11-14 10:06
I think labels are helpful for discussion but unproductive in real life.

We can call what we have 'capitalism' but it's really not. It's some perversion of it with socialist practices for the corporations and rich.

We have a hodgepodge of systems and should quit worrying about what we call it. Labels box us in. We need ELEMENTS of capitalism, elements of socialism, elements of libertarianism and NEW ideas and alliances too. Does capitalism HAVE to define success or mission so narrowly? Does capitalism HAVE to ignore context/community?

Trump is godzilla. He CRUSHED the Clintons AND the Bushes! He has exploded the GOP AND the DP! He has played the msm like a fiddle. So far I am seeing some silver linings. He just might blow up capitalism too. He, being nonideological, might be the epitome of a mixed approach.

It is pretty dang fascinating.
 
 
+6 # Wordslinger 2016-11-12 19:22
We should abandon the democratic party -- they are the establishment and have never worked for us. As long as we keep the party's name, the implication will be it's more of the same.

Go with a new party, a new movement and fuck the establishment, right or left.
 
 
+8 # djnova50 2016-11-12 19:35
Dr. Reich, what we need is more viable political parties; not, just the two. The system is rigged against alternative parties; because that is how the Democrats and Republicans want it. Having every member of the DNC resign will not help the Green Party or the Libertarian Party. We need to end the duopoly; not, support it.
 
 
+10 # sharag 2016-11-12 19:45
The Democratic Party is dead, long ago hijacked by neoliberals. Their leadership should have been fired, changed, whatever, after the losses of the midterm elections of 2014. A New Democratic Party, or whatever it will be called, is sorely needed. We all know this. Regardless of what or who Reich supported before November 8th, his suggestion is a start and something millions of people already know. It must start today.
 
 
+15 # angryspittle 2016-11-12 19:47
Trump did not win "fair and square" No Republican national candidate has what with the voter suppression efforts, disenfranchisem ent and other nefarious crap they have pulled over the past 20 years.
 
 
+2 # MsAnnaNOLA 2016-11-12 21:12
Some people are no longer party loyalists. Obama failed to deliver. Face it. People changes sides because Hillary is an awful criminal candidate.
 
 
-1 # Caliban 2016-11-13 02:54
HRC was a terrible candidate, but she is not a criminal.

Bill Clinton -- a terrific campaigner -- would have beaten Trump like a dirty rug.
 
 
+2 # anthraxripple 2016-11-13 22:59
Any Clinton would have lost. It's time for them to retire, so the Democratic Party can recover.
 
 
+1 # LionMousePudding 2016-11-14 12:14
Any Clinton SHOULD have lost. I agree that Bill would have won. Personality; he only started the ball rolling for disaster so things were good for a lot of people then. None of her scandals; just sex and not as bad as Trump. And.. male. Of course SOME of the vote was sexist.
 
 
+8 # policymaven 2016-11-12 20:08
Though I hate Hillary, the fact is that she won the popular vote. This is the second time in 16 years the Democrats have lost the presidency because of the electoral college, which was crafted by slaveholders who were at the constitutional convention. If we had a parliamentary democracy, she would be the president elect. So let's just keep that in mind as we discuss real alternatives to the Neo liberal democratic party. It is also clear that voter suppression of minority voters and young voters was responsible for her losing several swing states in the Midwest. The issues of voter suppression and electronic hacking of vulnerable voting machines needs to be front and center in our conversations.
 
 
-3 # Caliban 2016-11-13 02:59
HRC did, indeed, win the popular vote. Thanks for the reminder, #policy maven.

It's all too easy to forget that in the heat of our post -- election anger.
 
 
+2 # anthraxripple 2016-11-13 23:00
2008:
ADULT POPULATION: 234,080,000
OBAMA: 69,499,000
MCCAIN: 59,948,000
TOTAL: 129,447,000
PERCENTAGE: 55.30%
DIFFERENCE (with 2016): +6.93% (+9,604,000)

2012:
ADULT POPULATION: 240,393,000
ROMNEY: 60,934,000
OBAMA: 65,916,000
TOTAL: 126,850,000
PERCENTAGE: 52.77%
DIFFERENCE (with 2016): +4.4% (+7,007,000)

2016:
ADULT POPULATION: 247,774,000
CLINTON: 60,063,000 [less than Romney]
TRUMP: 59,780,000 [less than Romney or McCain]
TOTAL: 119,843,000
PERCENTAGE: 48.37%
DIFFERENCE (with 2012): -4.4% (-7,007,000)
DIFFERENCE (with 2008): -6.93% (-9,604,000)

*Compared to 8 years ago, 9.6 million fewer people voted for one of the 2 main party candidates this time. This is a drop of 6.93%.

*This is the proof that a candidate people believe is liberal would have won against Trump in a landslide.

HINT: I'm not the only one who voted for Obama in '08, but refused to vote for Hillary in '16. I had the sense to vote for Stein anyway, and make sure I was still counted. Most decided not to bother voting at all.

*This is also proof that Trump didn't "win" as much as Clinton LOST.
 
 
+6 # librarian1984 2016-11-12 20:54
The exact same people who shilled for Hill are now, four days later, telling us to 'move on' and let's fix the DP from within?!

Why on earth should anyone follow your advice or believe you? None of you has apologized or even admitted you were wrong.

You gave us horrible, wrong-headed advice and now, a few days later, expect us to forget that ancient history and trust you?

Tell you what. Before you even start your Plan A steps you say all the leaders should resign. Why isn't that a step? Is it a prelude? A condition? Whatever it is, you do THAT first. As soon as you get all the leaders and DNC members to resign, I'll switch back to the DP.

But I won't hold my breath. I'll be over here working on a new party.
 
 
+4 # economagic 2016-11-12 21:06
"Tell you what. Before you even start your Plan A steps you say all the leaders should resign. Why isn't that a step? Is it a prelude? A condition? Whatever it is, you do THAT first."

Yes, see my comment just below (for now).
 
 
+1 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 07:53
My daughters in CA feel the same way you do...and we are all Bernie supporters. But I'm from Southern Illinois and I believe that there was NO chance that Bernie would have done better than Hillary against Trump. And we can debate that forever. Given the range of angry, fearful single issue Trump Republican voters arrayed against both Hillary and the Democratic Party (guns, taxes, abortion, health care, immigration, bigotry, religion,just general mean spiritedness) please suggest your perfect candidate to defeat Trump with these conservative voters.
 
 
0 # tr4302@gmail.com 2016-11-12 20:55
Day late and a dollar short! All the people who were in a position to know kept saying to vote for the scammed in selection of glass ceiling wonder woman the genuine darling of the DNC, etc. Alea Acta est. You Sh### in your nest , now lie in it!
 
 
+8 # economagic 2016-11-12 21:01
Professor Reich, I will fall in with whichever of those alternatives shows promise a few weeks or months from now, with the proviso that this country can never be genuinely democratic until we end the "two-party system." Many people believe it is facilitated if not forced by a winner-take-all rule, and it is at least as pernicious as "our unique American system of health care" (B. Obama), which as the late Walter Kronkite pointed out is not healthful, or caring, or a system.

That said, Plan A is your game. Nobody here knows the rules or the players, much less has the ear of any of them. You do. The hubristic people who created the DLC and who still populate the core of the DNC are not going to purge themselves, and We the People get to vote on them only through a hierarchical labyrinth of local and state committees controlled by the Old Guard. If there is to be a progressive Democratic party before the beautiful acreage in NW Georgia that I am selling in lieu of the Brooklyn Bridge (now retired) really DOES become the seacoast, it will be up to you and your associates who have been part of the party hierarchy.
 
 
0 # Patriot 2016-11-14 04:02
AMEN! Well said!
 
 
+12 # bcmarshall 2016-11-12 21:23
One thing that he left out. It's not about just getting new leadership. Along with everything else adjusted, the party must abandon its undemocratic super delegates. Only then does it have a chance.
 
 
+1 # Caliban 2016-11-13 13:36
Absolutely correct, #bcmarshall.
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-11-15 00:46
yes, and it's easy contrary to getting rid of the Electoral College (also needed): we need a Constitutional amendment using the states, not Congress of course.
Here is a GOOD analysis of how it works and gives states the power, not congress:

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No3_Rogersonline.pdf

WE CAN USE OUR CONSTITUTION IF WE ARE WILLING TO LEARN AND EACH ACT IN OUR STATE.

Remember who inspires Trump (with his speeches at his bedside.)Here are some of his quotations:
By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise.
(Adolf Hitler)
I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature. (same)

If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.
Adolf Hitler

What good fortune for governments that the people do not think.
Adolf Hitler

I LOVE the last one!

look at what Americans did:
“A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices”
― George Orwell

I have to admit that both candidates had some of the "qualities". I voted Bernie and then Stein (this was safe in my state)
 
 
+9 # Stranger 2016-11-12 21:59
As a guest in your house, I must point out that the suggested name, the New Democratic Party is already taken. We have it in Canada. Now let's get rid of NAFTA.
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-11-15 00:32
OH NO...can't we have it too?
 
 
+4 # Inspired Citizen 2016-11-12 22:13
We need a revolution. #DemExit
 
 
-8 # Activista 2016-11-12 22:18
Unbelievable logic of the Trump victory. Trump won because of all the people here voting/supporti ng Hillary Clinton.
Reality is that FOX and people brainwashed by FOX elected Clinton directly or indirectly by supporting third third party candidate.
 
 
+4 # Patriot 2016-11-13 01:29
What have you been taking? Clinton did NOT win; Trump did.
 
 
-2 # candida 2016-11-13 20:27
Quoting Patriot:
What have you been taking? Clinton did NOT win; Trump did.


An obvious writing error, patriot. Give Activista a break! Otherwise, the logic is impeccable. Blaming those who supported/voted for Clinton are to blame for Trump!?!? WOW!!! A classic reversal of logic. The 4 million Democrats who failed to vote hold a lot more responsibility than those who did.
 
 
0 # anthraxripple 2016-11-13 23:22
2008:
ADULT POPULATION: 234,080,000
OBAMA: 69,499,000
MCCAIN: 59,948,000
TOTAL: 129,447,000
PERCENTAGE: 55.30%
DIFFERENCE (with 2016): +6.93% (+9,604,000)

2012:
ADULT POPULATION: 240,393,000
ROMNEY: 60,934,000
OBAMA: 65,916,000
TOTAL: 126,850,000
PERCENTAGE: 52.77%
DIFFERENCE (with 2016): +4.4% (+7,007,000)

2016:
ADULT POPULATION: 247,774,000
CLINTON: 60,063,000 [less than Romney]
TRUMP: 59,780,000 [less than Romney or McCain]
TOTAL: 119,843,000
PERCENTAGE: 48.37%
DIFFERENCE (with 2012): -4.4% (-7,007,000)
DIFFERENCE (with 2008): -6.93% (-9,604,000)

*Compared to 8 years ago, 9.6 million fewer people voted for one of the 2 main party candidates this time. This is a drop of 6.93%.

*This is the proof that a candidate people believe is liberal would have won against Trump in a landslide.

HINT: I'm not the only one who voted for Obama in '08, but refused to vote for Hillary in '16. I had the sense to vote for Stein anyway, and make sure I was still counted. Most decided not to bother voting at all.

*This is also proof that Trump didn't "win" as much as Clinton LOST.
 
 
-1 # crispy 2016-11-15 00:25
worth going there if you think Trump won legally: https://www.facebook.com/markcrispinmiller/

Blackbox voting at work again...

Let's have the elections results annulled by Obama (MAKE HIM DO IT, he is a wimp) or the electoral college:
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19

The future of the Republic is at stake!
 
 
+2 # librarian1984 2016-11-14 01:16
Hmm. SO much blame to go around .. but none for the candidate or her supporters.
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-11-15 00:31
FOX? low viewer TV station but Alex Jones (almost 300 radio stations) and Savage (many stations) DID help. Trump called Jones to thank him, according to Jones who had Roger Stone daily on his show and screened calls to avoid ANY opposing Trump!
His website comments are also censored (I tried to post repeatedly , in vain - comments removed within a min)
 
 
-2 # Philothustra 2016-11-12 22:33
When the mainstream Democrats from the DNC, up to the White House, decided years ago to coronate Hillary, an ex-presidents wife with nothing in the way of policies or legitimate authority, the ship was sunk. There should have been a real primary contest with real alternatives; HRC could barely beat Bernie.
And BTW, Trump is a real disaster and he won't take long to show his colors. Medicare, Social Security, and the NATO alliance are now up for grabs, you foolish Americans.
 
 
+2 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 08:34
Quoting Philothustra:
When the mainstream Democrats from the DNC, up to the White House, decided years ago to coronate Hillary, an ex-presidents wife with nothing in the way of policies or legitimate authority, the ship was sunk. There should have been a real primary contest with real alternatives; HRC could barely beat Bernie.
And BTW, Trump is a real disaster and he won't take long to show his colors. Medicare, Social Security, and the NATO alliance are now up for grabs, you foolish Americans.


Hillary was actually the only one we had who could barely beat Bernie. And she did indeed have policies and watch it with the "ex-Presidents wife" thing... she stands on her own record whether you liked it or not. We have very few with her years of record of service, male or female, and that is the problem.
 
 
+4 # DaveEwoldt 2016-11-13 11:38
chicagoflygirls , Hillary's "record of service" was her number one problem. Libya, Ukraine, the Honduran children she sent back to face the death squads they escaped from, and trade agreements like the TPP. These are the things the Clintonistas want to ignore--but other aware people couldn't forget--and believe her only problem was the lack of transparency displayed by using a private e-mail system.

Hillary presented the face of the pro-corporate war mongers. Neoconservative militarism and neoliberal economics is what is behind our rapidly converging global crises. It shouldn't be any great surprise that this failed to excite the electorate. The fact that her opponent was Trump merely points to the reality of the Kabuki Theater that American politics has become.
 
 
0 # Patriot 2016-11-14 04:06
Also deduct 8 years as First Lady. Only Eleanor Roosevelt's many years of service to her husband and his administration and hER COUNTRY could legitimately have qualified her as a candidate--that , and her impeccable integrity. Clinton--as someone so nicely put it a few days ago--isn't fit to carry her jock strap!
 
 
+1 # crispy 2016-11-15 00:20
Did she beat Bernie? Lots of rigging went on and discrepancies found (votes vs exit poll results) as reported By Rob Kall for ex at opednews.org. She STOLE the elections from Bernie.
Btw, He predicted she'd lose and why(last year I think) - sorry i lost the quote but it was CLEAR to him way back.
 
 
+7 # spenel334 2016-11-12 22:59
I just read a comment alleging that no one has accused the Republican party of stealing this election. NOT true. Google Greg Palast, THE investigator of methods of depriving voters of their voting rights, (above and beyond legal efforts), and you will see, in fact, he does exactly that.

I believe he is in the process of proving it, and, I hope, will be able to say more at that point.
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-11-15 00:12
Oh YES spenel334! also GO to Mark Miller's facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/markcrispinmiller/

for an analysis of the 4 states (at least) where the machines where hacked and gave Trump the votes he needed to win (Trump was right, elections were rigged, in his favor.)The margin of error was largely exceeded for discrepancy between results and exit polls (CNN)
GO CHECK FACTS!

ALSO SIGN change.org petition and pass the word around:
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19

I know it's not constitutional but is machine tempering constitutional?
Is the risk of a Trump dark-age time acceptable to you, and your children?
Obama is unlikely to declare Marshall Law and cancel the election results + run new elections, is he? Some are suggesting just doing that.
Finally watch Trump in a scripted video lie to his electors (the site is French but the video is in English) disable your adblocker if you have one or it won't play.

http://www.agoravox.tv/tribune-libre/article/un-discours-essentiel-de-donald-71197

AMAZING what he could say to win and look at his team now!
 
 
+1 # danireland46 2016-11-12 23:07
I think the only way to change the Democratic Party is to form a new organization committed to progressive policies dedicated to the common man and incarceration of the true criminals; the 1%'ers and the WS Con Artists, not the desperate poor doing what they need to get by in a world stacked agains them. Here's to the new US Progressive Party.
 
 
0 # Floe 2016-11-13 00:13
Wow to even ask that question you deserve a curtsey's Robert Reich! Thank you.

I have a plan!
Decide we want nothing more of this killing government. We display a car sticker allowing police to know that we do not consent to their hijacking me or anyone else.

We can simply start our own system. A digital democracy rendering this current so-called democracy, obsolete.

A programmer has developed a system where all decide and all votes have equal weight. Anyone can make a proposal. They can show videos or write articles to back up the case for their proposal. Opposing views may also be added to properly inform your viewers/listene rs.

This could all be done online with the appropriate software. That's mainly what we need today - software. But do you want these creeps in charge of the advancing software? Or should we all have equal influence? The idea of anyone being “in charge” will be as obsolete as the politicians.

Public information would be open. Privacy of individuals be assured because surveillance of our fellows would be considered repugnant.

Everything would be rated. Everyone’s rating is openly visible allowing immediate discovery of who are the best leaders in any field.

As life becomes more complex, systems need to be made as simple as possible

At every moment we have free will, unless we decide to forfeit it and pass it on to somebody else, be it politician, god or parents.

We can aim for the ideal and stop all the compromising.
 
 
-1 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 07:40
I do not want the No-Nothing Party, where everyones' uneducated opinion rules. Ignorance shouldn't govern. Find a way to find the truth, correctness and viability of each position before we start touting it. That takes time, experience and study. Not a quick fix.
 
 
0 # Floe 2016-11-13 00:14
...Continued

Called Synergy Nation undergirded by a smart search engine called the Nodes Network we can start our own society right now. Boldness is inspiring. Stagnation’s a bore.

Call Steve Moyer on SKYPE if you wish to discuss this. His ID is stevenkentmoyer

This is his post on facebook. Watch the video. These fundamentals are what we need to be thinking about – Namaste!

https://www.facebook.com/metamind/posts/10154674987948454?comment_id=10154675127663454
 
 
+6 # treerapper 2016-11-13 03:49
Actually, you have to evaluate the system WE have first - "winner take all". In a "winner take all" scenario, you will never get the representation of all possible voices. You only get that if you have a Parliamentarian form of government, which is much more democratic.

With "winner take all", 3rd parties suffer extraordinarily and that's the quandary we are in. In addition, the Greens in the US have never done due diligence. Building a party is like building a movement - it needs to begin with the people at the local level and move it's way up the feeding chain. Any attempt to do this top down will be an absolute failure.

Given that the possibility of re-writing the Constitutional aspect of our government structure is not within the realm of possibilities, we have to maneuver within what is possible. Therefore, the DNC needs to be brought to its knees - the power mongers and those that play the insider's game need to be expunged and the damned place scrubbed so there is no trace whatsoever of the black mold that has formed over these 3+ decades.

Ellison is a good beginning but you also can't forget the nature of these beasts - Ellison voted for the DARK Act and so he too has loyalties that need to be questioned and contained.

At the end of the day, whatever the DNC becomes, it needs to understand it is answerable to the people and backdoor deals with lobbyist and corporate trash just won't work any more.
 
 
+1 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 09:43
Quoting treerapper:
Actually, you have to evaluate the system WE have first - "winner take all". In a "winner take all" scenario, you will never get the representation of all possible voices. You only get that if you have a Parliamentarian form of government, which is much more democratic.

At the end of the day, whatever the DNC becomes, it needs to understand it is answerable to the people and backdoor deals with lobbyist and corporate trash just won't work any more.


To sign the Ellison petition
https://go.berniesanders.com/page/s/keith-ellison-dnc
 
 
0 # treerapper 2016-11-16 05:32
Thanks, chicaogflygirls . I have signed more than once as there are many circulating.

What we can't forget is the WE in this. There are so many forced that subvert the People's voice and we can't forget that anyone who is in charge is still just a human with all the failings that come along with that. WE need to be vigilant and vocal and WE can't rest on our laurels. A working functioning democracy is like a garden - the work is never done. We are starting with a deficit - we are NOT a democracy, we are a Republic. But, regardless, if any of you are old enough to remember the Nam protests, that should be a lesson in what IS possible.
 
 
+1 # gentry cooper 2016-11-13 04:03
Reich I think that you should just shut the he'll up. Weren't you schilling for Clinton even though you knew she and the corrupt, rotten to the core, traitorous to the very last drop, DNC stole the nomination from Sanders? If I'm not mistaken you wete. You are not more credible than the rotten, corrupt, traitorous DNC. You are not to be taken seriously by any progressive. You are to be laughed at. You are a disgrace. Lol.
 
 
+5 # ericlane 2016-11-13 06:43
The real problem was that the Democratic leadership starting with Wasserman and Donna Brazile were so set to have the first woman president that they forgot what democracy is. By manipulating and controlling the process, they set up failure. It is hard to believe that the so called Democratic Party did everything it could to stifle democracy. I know that Wasserman had the best of intentions but despots and fascists also believe they know what is best for everyone else. Democracy is the will of the people and every time you try to subvert this, you end up with a Donald Trump.
 
 
+2 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 09:13
Quoting ericlane:
The real problem was that the Democratic leadership starting with Wasserman and Donna Brazile were so set to have the first woman president that they forgot what democracy is. By manipulating and controlling the process, they set up failure. It is hard to believe that the so called Democratic Party did everything it could to stifle democracy. I know that Wasserman had the best of intentions but despots and fascists also believe they know what is best for everyone else. Democracy is the will of the people and every time you try to subvert this, you end up with a Donald Trump.


Show me the deep list of electable Democrats that some of the Trump voters would have supported instead of Hillary. Our problem is recruiting NEW Democrat voters... and getting them registered and informed.
 
 
+3 # ericlane 2016-11-13 10:34
chic, Bernie Sanders. And I agree with your second point. It's also to stand up for working folks all over the country.
 
 
+1 # Bruce Gruber 2016-11-13 07:27
Throwing rocks breaks more windows than it creates understanding. I would implore The Donald to convene a closed door, but filmed and replayed, brainstorming session of living Presidents for a weekend of camaraderie and 'sharing' with which to initiate his new venture in support of peace and prosperity.

It (the filmed expose') would enable Americans and the world to accept that "politics' and 'government' are simply the ways the human species has evolved to "deal with IT!".
 
 
+1 # ericlane 2016-11-13 10:36
Bruce. Are you kidding? Trump has Pence as VP. He will have Giuliani, Palin, Christie, alt-righters, etc. in his cabinet and administration. Who are you going to reach out to?
 
 
-2 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 11:54
Quoting Bruce Gruber:
Throwing rocks breaks more windows than it creates understanding. I would implore The Donald to convene a closed door, but filmed and replayed, brainstorming session of living Presidents for a weekend of camaraderie and 'sharing' with which to initiate his new venture in support of peace and prosperity.

It (the filmed expose') would enable Americans and the world to accept that "politics' and 'government' are simply the ways the human species has evolved to "deal with IT!".

Trump cannot concentrate long enough to watch the movie. Look behind the curtain...
 
 
+3 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 07:33
First we all need to find a way to get our "facts" straight... and that includes avoiding the misinformation campaigns coming out of the 140+ Macedonian fake news sites that are doing such a number on all of us during the election. Emotional and frightened voters on both sides were happy to share the click bait: from "I love the POTUS" happy memes to lies about Bernie supporters causing disruption at rallies. And years old pictures of black people looking threatening and killing cops. The shit storm of Facebook postings and "sharings" was overwhelming.
 
 
+1 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 09:09
I backed Bernie, and then I backed Hillary. And I looked at everything the Libertarian and Green Party had to say, searching for policy ideas that looked interesting. But I didn't see any viable vote there. And I also concluded that virtually ALL the "lying and corrupt" Hillary memes were unsupported name calling (so now I will get a boatload of thumbs down for that) from readers who really wanted to believe that the e-mail server was a heinous deal breaker. And I have some credible people I know who have worked at the Clinton Foundation for years, so I still believe that the Foundation is trying to do the work that it says it is doing. My sources say the Foundation has earned its high score from the charity rating agencies. I was ashamed to see any of the Melania shaming memes, because I have lots of sympathy for her situation. I really, really want Mr.Reich to seriously head up a news coalition to address this issue of fast and fake news... I value his "opinions" but I desperately want some trustworthy "reporting" but I know it costs alot of money and it takes time.
 
 
-3 # ericlane 2016-11-13 10:39
chic, Trump played the American people like a fiddle. First, give me publicity whether good or bad. Second, say a lie often enough and people will believe it. Hillary is a liar. The e-mail non-story. Benghazi. Republicans play for keeps and they start years ahead not during the election period. Get ready for a disaster that will make W's reign look like Camelot.
 
 
+1 # Vintor 2016-11-13 09:11
"We Need a New Democratic Party?"

So now you're listening? No thanks, the Green Party is the direction that I'm staying with. You still don't get it I see.

You're still trying to demonize Donald Trump as if that was or is the problem and you haven't seen one thing that he has done as president.

You should consider writing about economics for a living and stop writing about what the people actually want and need. You are too disconnected, like the corrupt, warmongering Hillary and her clan of corporate thieves.

The democratic party sold it's soul to the banks and corporations a long time ago and completely forgot about African Americans and people of color and used them for the profit prison industry that Hillary and Bill set up for their friends.

The poor never gets mentioned anyone because to the party, they don't matter. The working class were nothing more than the bill payers for corporate wars, to steal resources and make your friends wealthier.

We don't need the democratic party, it needs to be buried for good.
 
 
-1 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 10:25
Quoting Vintor:
"We Need a New Democratic Party?"

So now you're listening? No thanks, the Green Party is the direction that I'm staying with. You still don't get it I see.

You're still trying to demonize Donald Trump as if that was or is the problem and you haven't seen one thing that he has done as president.

You should consider writing about economics for a living and stop writing about what the people actually want and need. You are too disconnected, like the corrupt, warmongering Hillary and her clan of corporate thieves.

The democratic party sold it's soul to the banks and corporations a long time ago and completely forgot about African Americans and people of color and used them for the profit prison industry that Hillary and Bill set up for their friends.

The poor never gets mentioned anyone because to the party, they don't matter. The working class were nothing more than the bill payers for corporate wars, to steal resources and make your friends wealthier.

We don't need the democratic party, it needs to be buried for good.

The Green Party has no adequate leadership.
 
 
0 # Patriot 2016-11-14 04:12
So get off your arse and provide some! The Greens might welcome you with open arms. Drop in on a DP meeting and see how you're greeted....
 
 
0 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 09:17
But I still want to know where all the NEW Democrats are, and are they registered, and will they vote? We must find them. Years ago in Chicago Harold Washington, our first black mayor, told his south side neighbors " I will not run unless you register to vote." In 1983, the League of Negro Voters were instrumental in Washington's run for mayor by having a massive voter registration and education drive. And 250,000 voters signed his nomination to get on the ballot, even though only 650 names were required. That it leadership.
 
 
+1 # ericlane 2016-11-13 10:44
chic and others, it's going to get a lot worse before it ever improves. The next election, the biannual election, historically will go to Republicans because Dems don't turn out. If this holds, Republicans will consolidate their hold on everything. The only bright light, if you can call it that, is that the Republicans will make such a mess of things that desperate Americans will vote Dem. Sorry to say, but the Green Party even if you deeply believe in it, can't be taken seriously. The fight is in the Democratic Party.
 
 
+3 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 11:52
Quoting ericlane:
chic and others, it's going to get a lot worse before it ever improves. The next election, the biannual election, historically will go to Republicans because Dems don't turn out. If this holds, Republicans will consolidate their hold on everything. The only bright light, if you can call it that, is that the Republicans will make such a mess of things that desperate Americans will vote Dem. Sorry to say, but the Green Party even if you deeply believe in it, can't be taken seriously. The fight is in the Democratic Party.

Voter recruitment in the RED STATES is paramount. Starting now. Leadership is needed.
 
 
+2 # Patriot 2016-11-14 04:13
Do you think we have a map of New Dems--whoever they are? Visit your local voter registration office, and ask them.
 
 
+3 # Cinty 2016-11-13 09:19
I agree with Robert; the time for deep change is now. The Democratic Party has, in many ways, become indistinguishab le from the Republican party. They are both corrupted by Wall Street group think and agenda driven lobbyists. Our foreign policy is propelled by a neoliberalism agenda that advantages the very few over everyone else. That must change and the place to start is in the creation of a new Democratic party.
 
 
0 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 11:51
Quoting Cinty:
I agree with Robert; the time for deep change is now. The Democratic Party has, in many ways, become indistinguishable from the Republican party. They are both corrupted by Wall Street group think and agenda driven lobbyists. Our foreign policy is propelled by a neoliberalism agenda that advantages the very few over everyone else. That must change and the place to start is in the creation of a new Democratic party.

Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are both Democrats. and Hillary got the popular vote. We have leaders...we just need to follow these 2 to fix the party. And it is not the neo liberal agenda to help the oligarchs... they are a world and an international force unto themselves. Their companies act regardless of either party. Regulating them, taxing them, rooting out their corruption and lawbreaking will be a full time job .... which so far NO Party has been able to do, although Warren tried under the Obama administration, while facing extreme Republican opposition. Put the fault were it lies... Republicans are not and have NEVER been fighters against Wall Street abuse. NEVER. NEVER.
 
 
+3 # Timshel 2016-11-13 09:23
I believe Clinton blaming Comey for her loss is the beginning of her next election campaign. She cannot accept the fact that the Podesta e-mails showing she was two-faced (i.e. public and private) irrevocably confirmed for so many Democratic and Independent voters that she was not to be trusted, and had them stay home and let Trump win. I was forced to vote for Clinton this time, but I will never repeat that disgusting chore. No American should ever have to accept the lesser of two great egos, a pandering creature of Wall Street or a ruthless businessman.

The brutally cold selfishness of the Clintons was on view for all Americans except that same crew of self-deluding ill-informed Clintonites. It wasn’t enough that she was Secretary of State while foreign governments gave hundreds of millions of $ to a foundation run by her husband and daughter, for them to repudiate one of the most corrupt politicians in history. Let us all express not only our disapproval of Trump, but also our determination that the Democratic Party no longer be owned by a gang of pro-business and, essentially, anti-labor neo-liberals, who care for nothing but their own comfort.
 
 
-1 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 10:19
Iimshel says....The brutally cold selfishness of the Clintons was on view for all Americans except that same crew of self-deluding ill-informed Clintonites. It wasn’t enough that she was Secretary of State while foreign governments gave hundreds of millions of $ to a foundation run by her husband and daughter, for them to repudiate one of the most corrupt politicians in history. Let us all express not only our disapproval of Trump, but also our determination that the Democratic Party no longer be owned by a gang of pro-business and, essentially, anti-labor neo-liberals, who care for nothing but their own comfort.([Timsh el/quote])

I backed Bernie, and then I backed Hillary. And I looked at everything the Libertarian and Green Party had to say, searching for policy ideas that looked interesting. But I didn't see any viable vote there. And I also concluded that virtually ALL the "lying and corrupt" Hillary memes were unsupported name calling (so now I will get a boatload of thumbs down for that) from readers who really wanted to believe that the e-mail server was a heinous deal breaker. And I have some credible people I know who have worked at the Clinton Foundation for years, so I still have every reason to believe that the Foundation is doing the work that it says it is doing. My sources say the Foundation has earned its high score from the charity rating agencies.
 
 
-4 # ericlane 2016-11-13 10:46
Timshel, you must have been watching a different election from me. Brutally, cold selfishness of the Clintons? Pleeeeaaasseeee . What kind of crap is that. You want selfish? Look at Trump, the very definition of selfishness. And to appease your Clinton hatred, I sincerely doubt she will ever run again for anything.
 
 
-3 # Caliban 2016-11-13 14:10
Get real, #Timshel -- Comey's anti - Clinton and Anti -Democrat intrusions into the process were shameful and destructive. Comey deserves firing and maybe criminal charges, though obviously the Trumpers who bought him are not going to let that happen.

And your description of Clinton is false and slanderous -- so much so that maybe Comey and Trump might have good jobs for you in the Trump government. You should give them a call.
 
 
-1 # librarian1984 2016-11-13 17:25
I see the Clinton people's Denial Parade carries on. I guess that means we can't count on you to help us improve anything?

Oh! there goes another float now: it's a basket of deplorables looking at incremental change .. made out of kale sprouts and quinoa tears!

Clinton was the #1 problem. Neoliberalism #2 ... or maybe Clinton was #2.
 
 
+1 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 09:41
TO add your name to the Ellison DNC chair petition click here: https://go.berniesanders.com/page/s/keith-ellison-dnc
 
 
0 # ericlane 2016-11-13 10:48
Have we forgotten that Dean was the head of the Democratic Party when Obama was elected? Why would we gamble on an unproven and dismiss someone who put together the most incredible victory in American history?
 
 
-2 # Caliban 2016-11-13 14:22
Has Dean officially put himself forward for the position, #ericlane?

I trust Bernie's judgement, But Howard Dean is a very good person and a talented political strategist.
 
 
+2 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 10:15
We need solid sources of communication with the Democrat Party. Online, active, operational. Not crap click bait stories. If you need to get up to date on the click-bait story https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/aug/24/facebook-clickbait-political-news-sites-us-election-trump
 
 
+4 # Dale 2016-11-13 10:25
No doubt that the Demo Party needs all new faces and candidates who respond to the needs of the population, but the corporate dems are not going to give up their power and prerogatives. So pursue Plan B together with an effort to reform the Dems, they complement each other.
 
 
-2 # Dale 2016-11-13 10:31
The age of vague promise and dirty deeds are numbered.
No more False Prophets.
It is time to recognize Obamabust.
We don’t want politicians who prostrate themselves
Toward the Mecca of Wall Street,
Pray to the Idols of War,
And coddle, aid and abet the Zombies.
In 2008 America voted for Change with Hope. In 2012 expectations of Change soured, but dim Hope lingered.
In 2014 disaffected voters and non-voters recognized you can´t fight zombyism with nothing to offer.
Dems prostrate themselves before the Mecca of power,
Being paid to meekly lay down and suffer defeat.
The population demographics of America greatly favor Dems.
But what do they do for 2016-- float a Damsel,
A Lay-Down Kitten for the financial and corporate interests,
For the Generals and war lovers Killary Clintlock is a George Bush in drag.
In the early 1960s many young women from the wealthy suburbs
Danced with Flowers in their hair,
This Damsel was a Goldwater enthusiast.
Rising to Senator she went on board in 2003 with Bush´s War.
As Secretary of State she guided the War Machine,
Tried to outdo Henry Kissingun.
Bombed Libya, threatened Syria and sent Islamist terrorists there, sanctioned Iran,
Fired the flames of perpetual war.
For 2016, Warriors and Wall Street too are sure
She is no “Populist”.
Hillary, Killary, Pillory Sock,
The Servant goes to the Dock,
The clock strikes High Noon,
The servant goes down,
Hillary, Killary, Pilloried.
 
 
-1 # Caliban 2016-11-13 14:26
Rubbish pretending to be ... what?
 
 
+2 # Phillybuster 2016-11-13 15:54
Leonard Cohen you are not.
 
 
-4 # 2wmcg2 2016-11-13 11:01
Does Robert Reich have the moral authority to call for a new Democratic party? Yes, the election was disappointing for Democrats. Some policies need to be changed. But to blame it on incumbent party officials? Isn't that overreacting? Tell us what you'd do differently.
 
 
+2 # chicagoflygirls 2016-11-13 11:40
Quoting 2wmcg2:
Does Robert Reich have the moral authority to call for a new Democratic party? Yes, the election was disappointing for Democrats. Some policies need to be changed. But to blame it on incumbent party officials? Isn't that overreacting? Tell us what you'd do differently.

Yes he knows the territory. The Democrat Party is very short on leadership, and very very short of new voters in Red States. Grass roots. Register and educate. Listen and legislate. This is work we can all do... be ready at your next Farmers market opening... or outside your post offices, THERE IS WORK TO BE DONE.
 
 
+3 # Phillybuster 2016-11-13 15:43
Quote:
Tell us what you'd do differently.
When Democrats in Michigan and Wisconsin were yelling for more help because they were in danger of losing to Trump, the DNC sat on its butt popping champagne corks.
 
 
+3 # christianadvocate 2016-11-13 13:00
I vote Plan A, but it won't matter if we disregard middle America, the 'working stiff' if you will.

Robert has always been a voice for them, so I am surprised not to here their cause front and center in his piece.

Same-sex marriage and ensuring men who think they are women can use any restroom may be important fights, but that is not what the working man wants to hear. When he says his life matters, he doesn't want to rely on a Party that agrees, but in effect tells him it doesn't matter as much as a black life. He doesn't want to hear that fighting for him is not as important as fighting for the immigrant he believes takes his job.

Right or wrong as the working class may be, it is perception based in enough reality to be real to him. So, we will lose the Midwest like we lost the south if we don't go on the offense for this group that has waited long enough on the Democratic Party. Don't bury their needs under a 'progressive' umbrella. Make it plain, clear, and aggressive.
 
 
+4 # MarthaA 2016-11-13 15:44
All the Democratic Party leadership in all forms should resign. The people need a liberal party that represents the majority population. NOT more New Democrats and neoliberals from the DLC's Davos, Switzerland Class or Davos Class, the New Class of Democrats and Republicans; we have had enough of them.
 
 
+1 # librarian1984 2016-11-13 17:29
Totally agree. Though apparently many haven't read that memo .. WHILE they call other people stupid.
 
 
+1 # crispy 2016-11-14 23:56
Including Obama? His records certainly did not help (not much "CHANGED" so why would people believe neocon democrats like him or Clinton?) Remember "Change you can believe in"?
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-11-14 23:52
Yeah Robert, right! With your influence at DNC WHY didn't you think of that before??
Why didn't you tell Bernie to contest the Primary results? There was plenty of evidence of rigging by Convention time!

Why aren't you now calling for the cancellation of the elections (Marshall Law would be necessary, but isn't the FUTURE of the Republic at stake?)
You should at least a RECOUNT in 4 states where the discrepancy between exit polls and "results" are beyond MoE (Margin of error); see analysis by Mark Miller on his facebook page.

Writing articles will NOT change the results. Common Robert, ACT and CALL FOR ACTION from Obama (he is a wimp; he needs someone to make him do stuff.)
 
 
0 # feloneouscat 2016-11-15 08:19
Reich once again gets it wrong. This is sad, because I really used to admire him. However, it now appears as if he has confused “his ideas” with “solving a problem”.

First, what is the problem Reich wants to solve?

Answer: He doesn’t tell you but I will. Reich didn’t like the fact that HRC won the primary. Like many, he thinks there was collusion. He believes in the conspiracy theories whereas the hard facts are the there was no conspiracy. HRC won on votes and delegates.

Second, Why does Reich see there is a problem?

Answer: Sanders didn’t win the primary. Never mind that we normally don’t make our front runner the loser of the primary (hence why we have them).

Third, Why do they think Sanders would win?

Answer: Polls. The polls said that Sanders would have marginally beat Clinton. The reality says that the polls were totally off. If the polls were off about Clinton beating Trump, then they were CERTAINLY off about Sanders beating Trump. In other words he is attempting to argue that the incorrect clock tells perfect time twice a day. This is self-delusion.

Fourth, Why should the DNC resign?

Therein lies the rub. They shouldn’t. Both Clinton and Sanders ran on policy. Trump ran on racism, sexism, homophobia, and xenophobia. He didn’t have any policies.

Reich implies that somehow this is the DNC’s fault when, in fact, it was WHITE PEOPLE not standing up against WHITE PEOPLE.

Reich gets it horribly wrong.
 
 
0 # librarian1984 2016-11-16 21:03
The primary exit polls showed that the same pollsters on the same days were within acceptable limits for the GOP but wildly out of sync for the Dems 11 times -- and they all went to Clinton. The odds against that are 1 in 70 billion.

The national polls for months showed that HRC was in a statistical tie with Trump -- within two percent of the results, which is acceptable, so those polls were correct.

The same polls showed Sanders consistently beat Trump by ten points or more.

The DNC is neoliberal central, loaded with the Clintons' people. Since the Clintons have lost, their hold on the DNC should be over.

Sanders ran on issues. No one else in the race did, including Clinton. Tell me five things she was going to do. Her whole campaign was "I'm Not Trump".

You are the one who has things wrong.
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-11-15 22:13
Watch your candidate lie here (as he did 94% of the time according to factcheck in the last debate) except here he lies to YOU -useful idiots who voted for him (as shown by his current team composition)
It's in English just hard to find on a US site...

http://www.agoravox.tv/tribune-libre/article/un-discours-essentiel-de-donald-71197

disable adblocker apps if the video does not play.

Watch it too Hilary/stein supporters (I voted Stein.)
It's an amazing video (all scripted of course)
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-11-15 22:20
Wow, I just found out from (Allen Cohen) 11 states have already approved legislation to go around the electoral college legally (they'd give All their delegates at the EC to the candidate who obtains the majority of the popular vote NATIONALLY.)Not perfect but better than what we have. Not sure how many states are needed: enough to generate say 270-300 E. college votes (I think)
Here:
http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/about

Look into it and promote the idea w/ your state representatives /senators, especially in LARGE states!
 

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