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Khan writes: "What we have seen is the Middle East and large parts of North Africa on the receiving end of death, destruction, and displacement over the last 15 years."

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US Foreign Policy: Killing People to Save Them

By Dr. Arshad M. Khan, teleSUR

12 October 16

 

What we have seen is the Middle East and large parts of North Africa on the receiving end of death, destruction and displacement over the last 15 years.

he 15th anniversary of the war in Afghanistan — a war with no foreseeable end in sight — quietly passed by unnoticed Friday by major U.S. media.

The number of troops due to remain in Afghanistan has been raised 50 percent to 8,400. Drones based in Pakistan continue to play their deadly role. On the anniversary date, attacks on security checkpoints in the Chashma area of Maiwand district in the southern part of Kandahar province resulted in a gun battle lasting several hours. Afghan officials concede three soldiers died and four were wounded. The Taliban claim the surrender of an entire battalion and one tank.

As incongruous as it might appear in hindsight, there was much talk of “nation building” in the Bush years. What we have seen instead are a Middle East and large parts of North Africa on the receiving end of death, destruction and displacement, on a scale unheard of since the World War II. Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Syria, Yemen, even Ukraine are fractured states, the ensuing misery for their citizens a natural consequence.

Iraq is back in the news again not just for the reinsertion of U.S. forces, but also for a new planned battle to recapture Mosul from the Islamic State group — a battle likely to be another hell for its Sunni citizens who probably do not relish a return of the now essentially Shia Iraqi military.

Sectarianism, Balkanization of states, a rendering of the delicate fabric of these multi-ethnic, multi-religious societies may not have been the stated aim but are certainly the aftermath. The fact is when the same scenario is repeated time and again, many see it as the goal of U.S. policy disguised in platitudes. Hence the ill-will toward U.S. citizens across a wide swathe of lands running from North Africa to India. It is a sobering prospect in an inter-connected world.

The most troubling aspect of the Afghanistan war is one basic irrefutable fact: Neither the Afghan people nor their government had any involvement in the 9/11 attack. Yes, Osama bin Laden was a guest in the country, but only because he had helped in repelling the Soviet invasion. The Afghan government requested evidence, the U.S. reply: surrender him or else. To neighboring Pakistan Richard Armitage delivered the notorious line, “we'll bomb you back into the stone age,” according to then President Pervez Musharraf.

Were there no other alternatives to full-scale war? How about a police action targeting bin Laden's group? Or, for a peaceful solution, how about the possibility of surrender to an international tribunal that would have guaranteed no death penalty. He claimed to be a leader conducting war, and, it is fair to say, many other wartime leaders have ordered far worse. A guest in a world where honor is important might have been obliged to accept such surrender terms, but certainly not the demands of a revanchist superpower intent on his execution.

The war made enemies out of friends, and left nuclear armed Pakistan considerably less stable by importing religious extremism — bombings and terror attacks, once almost unheard of are now quite common.

Based on lies, as the Chilcot report in Britain affirms, the Iraq war was even more egregious and has left unimagined problems in its wake. Given these experiences and Libya to boot, one would have thought arming jihadi groups — wasn't the Osama bin Laden experience enough — was playing with fire. But here we are again: the U.S. fighting a secular government in Syria that was never a threat, and trying to replace it with jihadis who harbor a visceral hatred toward it.

The logic that prevails is also of powerful Washington insiders, who, too, harbor visceral hatreds but cloak their arguments. Who ever heard of killing people to save them?



Dr. Arshad M Khan (http://ofthisandthat.org/index.html) is a former Professor, whose comments over several decades have appeared in a wide-ranging array of print and electronic media including The Christian Science Monitor, The Dallas Morning News, Dawn (Pakistan), Forth Worth Star Telegram, Asia Times Online, Countercurrrents, Counterpunch, Pambazuka News, teleSUR, and many others.

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+44 # guomashi 2016-10-12 12:54
"The logic that prevails is also of powerful Washington insiders, who, too, harbor visceral hatreds but cloak their arguments. Who ever heard of killing people to save them?"

First time I heard it was General Curtis LeMay who said openly that sometimes you have to destroy a village to save it.

The question is what does "save" mean?
Really it's just a contraction for "enslave".

America will earn what it deserves.
Unfortunately that is not true for our victims.
Many of US are extremely distraught over that sad fact.
Unfortunately, we have all been disenfranchised.

Time for the deluge.
 
 
+6 # Jim Young 2016-10-12 20:36
Curtis LeMay didn't say it, Peter Arnett didn't identify Major Booris as the one who said the basics (not quite word for word as far as I can tell) regarding Ben Tre.

See http://www.nhe.net/BenTreVietnam/

I heard of it from the side of the guys that ignored his orders to shoot at what they realized were our own troops, as Booris ordered them to do, since he believed they were VC. At least that is very close to what I heard from guys in the area when I traveled down there.

Thank God, we have guys smart enough to not follow mistaken orders. Even if they had fired off to the side or high (as sometimes done to chase off people they can't identify as friend or not), the others (our own troops) might have started shooting back.

P.S. A friend and I had been in between two groups of our own dead tired troops around that time, that did start shooting at each other in the dim light. Since we could tell it was all American weapons, we didn't try to hide, instead walking into a well lit area between them so they could see we were unarmed American GIs. After they stopped shooting (since we were in their way), they started asking around to see who had "spotted" any left over VC.

No one had seen any, they just started shooting because someone else on the other side of the road had. It all stopped and we never heard another word about it.
 
 
+41 # Marshalldoc 2016-10-12 17:05
'It became necessary to destroy the town to save it', a United States major said about the Mekong Delta village of Bến Tre.
America has a long history, beginning with the indigenous natives of the land we now occupy, of saving people by killing them.
 
 
+29 # RMDC 2016-10-12 18:19
marshal -- yes, indeed, this is just how the US army fought Native Americans. In fact, they still call nations where they destroy "Indian Country." This is institutionaliz ed madness. They cannot stop their genocide.
 
 
+44 # Inspired Citizen 2016-10-12 17:14
The people in the Middle East and northern Africa have seen little yet. Wait until Clinton is ordering military strikes.

Trump kisses women inappropriately ; Clinton kills them.

#JillOrBust
 
 
+37 # Radscal 2016-10-12 17:30
"The fact is when the same scenario is repeated time and again, many see it as the goal of U.S. policy disguised in platitudes."

Ya think?

I for one do not buy into the Grand Incompetence Theory of History. When Empire does the same thing, with the same results over and over, the results must be the goal.

"The most troubling aspect of the Afghanistan war is one basic irrefutable fact: Neither the Afghan people nor their government had any involvement in the 9/11 attack."

Nor did ANY of the countries we've destroyed or are destroying. Whose (perceived) enemies were these countries before 9/11?

Complete a fully empowered investigation of the crimes of 9/11, and we end the wars, because our real enemies will be known.
 
 
+15 # GoGreen! 2016-10-12 18:17
Most of us know now about who committed the crimes of 9/11. But we can't say so, because it would be called anti Semitic.
 
 
+6 # reiverpacific 2016-10-12 19:07
Quoting GoGreen!:
Most of us know now about who committed the crimes of 9/11. But we can't say so, because it would be called anti Semitic.


Go on -I dare ya!
 
 
+6 # John S. Browne 2016-10-13 03:57
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Yes, but it wasn't only Israeli Mossad and/or Jews who were involved, it was also factions of "our own" U.S. government and others, so we should be very careful not to blame it all on the Jews. It will also be falsely called "anti- and/or un- American" to speak the truth concerning who was truly involved, but we need to point out the real "perpetra(i)tor s" nevertheless. If we want to be set free, we have to face the truth and spread it far and wide.

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+6 # Radscal 2016-10-13 13:51
I would never blame the goals and actions of the NeoCons and their Israeli Fascist brethren on Jews in general, let alone "all Jews."

It is true that the right-wing nut-jobs running the Zionist Colonial Entity have been quite open in their goals to destroy each of these countries. It is true that many Jewish people have been propagandized/t errified into averting their eyes and accepting the Zionists' actions as "necessary."

But I see those people as victims, not perpetrators.
 
 
+16 # Kootenay Coyote 2016-10-12 20:11
'When Empire does the same thing, with the same results over and over, the results must be the goal.'

Of course, that was also Einstein's definition of madness.
 
 
+10 # Radscal 2016-10-12 23:32
The key difference being that Einstein (or whoever coined the adage) said, doing the same thing, BUT expecting different results.

Near as I can tell. The Empire expects the very results it gets.
 
 
+3 # John S. Browne 2016-10-13 03:53
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https://www.facebook.com/ae911truth/videos/10153834103441269/

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+30 # reiverpacific 2016-10-12 17:47
"-the Iraq war was even more egregious and has left unimagined problems in its wake." (Quote).
Well, how could you credit ANY imagination to an incurious chowderhead who'd never been out of the country before was "selected" president and a vicious coward who was fine with young Americans dying on a lie + a pandering UK sleazbucket PM who gave not a shit for human life?
The fact that they're still strutting about and prospering should prompt feelings like Bob Dylan's words in "The Lonesome Death of Poor Hattie Carol"; -"Bury the rag deep in your face, -for now is the time for your tears!"
 
 
+34 # RMDC 2016-10-12 18:17
" a Middle East and large parts of North Africa on the receiving end of death, destruction and displacement, on a scale unheard of since the World War II. Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Syria, Yemen, even Ukraine are fractured states, the ensuing misery for their citizens a natural consequence."


Just think about this. Since 9-11 when a mere 3000 Americans were killed, the nation launched itself on a killing and destroying spasm that has left many nations totally destroyed and probably somthing like 100 million people's lives devastated. They have loved ones killed of blown apart, they are refugees living in tents, their national infrastructure is destroyed.

The US is the great destroyer nation. It destroys people's lives with a recklessness and callousness hardly ever matched in history.

Most US citizens are just not aware of the magnitude of the crimes of Bush, Obama, and soon Clinton. There does not seem to be any turning back. The US ruling elites will see this to the bitter end which will be the total collapse of the corrupt empire.
 
 
+2 # John S. Browne 2016-10-13 04:24
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A collapse they completely desire in order to do away with U.S. sovereignty and assure our surrender to global government enslavement, "the New World (Dis)Order (NWO)". 'Problem - reaction - solution'. They create the "problem(s)" and the ensuing chaos, then they "react", and finally they ride in on their so-called "white-horses" (really black, evil horses) to "save the day" with their "solution(s)"; in this case, global government enslavement. You see, they're intentionally backing us all into a corner which we can't get out of, so that we will call for and accept, as well as actually praise, their "solution" because we will see it as the only way to "save" us. And, considering the extreme level of effectiveness of this modus operandi heretofore, it will very likely work like a charm and the vast majority of "Amerika" and the world will bow down to it, capitulating to their own, and the entire world's, demise, global enslavement and extermination.

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+2 # John S. Browne 2016-10-13 04:33
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The vast majority of us are already walking blissfully ignorant, and happily, into the trap that they have been being prepared for for decades now since the creation of the United Nations (Global Enslavement and Mass-Exterminat ion Agency), having been falsely led to believe that it's all for "the world's best good" and for "saving the planet" (killing people to 'save' them), saving the planet being the last thing that these psychopathic globalists want, in truth, actually wanting the exact opposite. But most people, especially "Amerikans", are already fooled by it (all?).

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+11 # MidwestTom 2016-10-12 19:06
Study who is on the board pdf the Clinton Foundation, you will be surprised. Start with the Rothchildes.
 
 
+1 # reiverpacific 2016-10-12 19:09
Quoting MidwestTom:
Study who is on the board pdf the Clinton Foundation, you will be surprised. Start with the Rothchildes.


So-she'll always have great wine to glug on (heh-heh!).
 
 
+2 # RMDC 2016-10-13 06:53
post the list. This is not what I find.
 
 
-13 # Avinash Rangra 2016-10-12 19:08
I don't know where Professor Khan is coming from, but this article is neither rational nor scholarly. Typical rendition blaming everybody except Muslims, radical Muslims or non-state actors as Pakistan would say. It does not matter. The rational minds in the community must realize that the solution to the problem is within , not outside. Muslim community has to quit romanticising the past that never was as it is being claimed to be. It must quit playing a victim card and instead educate itself to become an assimilated part of the world community. When I go to visit Saudi Arabia, I follow the country laws, why can the Muslims not do the same when they visit my country?
 
 
+14 # Kootenay Coyote 2016-10-12 20:14
;[The Muslim community]...ed ucate itself to become an assimilated part of the world community.'

i.e., bow down to Western culture & be dominated by it. didn't work a thousand years ago, no good now either.
 
 
+3 # reiverpacific 2016-10-13 11:21
Quoting Avinash Rangra:
I don't know where Professor Khan is coming from, but this article is neither rational nor scholarly. Typical rendition blaming everybody except Muslims, radical Muslims or non-state actors as Pakistan would say. It does not matter. The rational minds in the community must realize that the solution to the problem is within , not outside. Muslim community has to quit romanticising the past that never was as it is being claimed to be. It must quit playing a victim card and instead educate itself to become an assimilated part of the world community. When I go to visit Saudi Arabia, I follow the country laws, why can the Muslims not do the same when they visit my country?

If you go to Saudi Arabia, you have a so-called society in which, if you don't adhere to the strict and rigidly-repress ive laws, you'll end up in Chop-chop square or recipient of many lashes -if you're lucky.
It's no place for a free-thinking non-conformist, which is why I never accepted any of the three highly paid jobs as an Architect I was offered there.
 
 
+5 # bonehead3 2016-10-14 02:34
The issue is the creation of the extremism by the USA hegemony that has lead to this massive death and nation destruction! The trumped-up "War On Terror", manufactured by the Bush and Zionist gang and perpetuated by Obama and his Zionists, is the root of any extremism! My goodness! USA supplies arms and supplies to "ISIS", whomever that really is!
 
 
+14 # futhark 2016-10-12 19:11
The perpetual murder for money machine seems to have been perfected. And, as history shows the Roman state had the Senate's legislative power subverted and replaced by fiat executive power of tyrants installed by the military, This marked its transition to Empire. We are witnessing to the same process of political evolution in which those hired to serve the Republic have become its masters. The next president of the United States will serve at the pleasure of these masters.

"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality." George W. Bush, or his brain, Karl Rove.

Say goodby to all the progress made since England's Glorious Revolution of 1688. From now on the only truth that will matter politically will be that dictated by authorities in service to the Deep State.
 
 
+12 # Kootenay Coyote 2016-10-12 20:16
‘Who ever heard of killing people to save them?’

e.g., My Lai; Ben Tre; & no doubt others, unrecorded & forgotten
 
 
+9 # janie1893 2016-10-13 00:49
Well, those people are only collateral damage, or looked like enemy, or were in the wrong place at the wrong time--because Americans never kill without reason.

Americans have not yet seen or cant yet admit that the rest of the world is onto all the bullshit and the clock is ticking.
 
 
+4 # John S. Browne 2016-10-13 04:55
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We have now been mired in a fifteen year world war presently centered in the Middle East, who would have thunk it? A global war OF terror being inflicted on the world by the West, and being carried out against countries that did not attack ANYBODY except perhaps themselves, least of all the U.S. of A. or any other Western country(ies), all for regime change, invasion, subjugation, occupation, exploitation, resource extraction and/or drug profiteering, not to mention mass-killing (murder) of mostly civilians, now in the millions, aka genocide? The "fictional" story of George Orwell's book, "1984", now come true replete with perpetual war. That's the empire that we in the U.S. and the other "benevolent" Western countries are now a part of. Really something to be "proud" of, eh? Madness on steroids and being expanded to become more and more insane, and for the sake of the minority of global(ist) eugenicists ("eugenocidists "), sadists and lovers and worshipers of death extraordinaire. Makes one "proud" to be an American, a Westerner and/or a citizen of this madhouse known as Earth, doesn't it?... NOT!!!!!

God save us from these psychopaths and their psychopathic, mass-murderous "Fourth Reich" global domination, subjugation, enslavement and extermination; otherwise, they will not be satisfied until they have mass-murdered most of us... "to 'save' the planet", "killing [aka, mass-murdering] (them) to 'save' them"!!!!! Again, NOT!!!!!!!!

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+4 # RMDC 2016-10-13 07:19
To me, this article describes the #1 issue facing voters on Nov. 8th. Which candidate for president or which candidates for the congress will do everything possible to reduce the killing and destruction of the American empire. The rankings are quite clear. Hillary will escalate the killing and destruction. Trump is pretty much unknown but he may reduce it a little in the sense that he won't feel a need to conquer nations on Russia's borders. Johnson will reduce it a great deal. Jill Stein will reduce the empire's killing the most.

People should vote their consciences. But I'm quite aware that very many Americans both don't know the devastation their government produces around the world and they also don't care. They actually believe that these dark skinned people are somehow not civilized. So they will vote Clinton.

Every one of these nations was vastly better off before the US came over to give them freedom and democracy.
 
 
+3 # John S. Browne 2016-10-13 09:05
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Yes and no. No U.S. president is a free agent anymore, if they ever were. They are puppets told to do what their stringpullers want them to do. If the powers-that-be (PTB), the global corporate-gover nment leaders, want the escalation of war, which is the name of the game right now with the endless war OF terrorism, they will escalate war whether they want to or not. They don't call the shots, almost everything is scripted for them. They are managed constantly such that they become quite used to it, and they come to enjoy it because most of the work is done for them. They are completely bought, paid for and controlled.

Look at "Odrona", practically his entire presidency was spent on vacation at taxpayers expense, probably to the tune of millions by now. Every flight of Air Force One alone is several hundred thousand dollars. They are flown around and wined and dined like royalty, staying in the best, most expensive accommodations, you know, presidential suites; again, all at taxpayers expense. Virtually no expense is spared. They are pampered and essentially bribed to do exactly what the PTB want them to do, no matter how depraved, or how evilly insane.

(Continued below)
 
 
+3 # John S. Browne 2016-10-13 09:07
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But anymore, most U.S. presidents don't have to be bribed, because they are already "inside players", long-groomed corporate-fasci st globalists who have long done what was expected of them by the PTB just as they have been programmed to do for years. They don't balk against it. They are totally for all of the escalated endless war and mass-murder. They are quickly made used to it. So, they won't reduce it, because that's not what their puppetmasters want of them.

They follow the plays as handed to them. What to say and what to do. It becomes easier and easier to go along with whatever is expected of them because they are rewarded with many things for doing as they're told. Wine, women (or young girls, men and/or boys), song, and riches, with state-of-the-ar t protection, for life, no matter what they do, or how vile and evil it is, almost nothing off limits.

So, again, they are not going to reduce anything that the PTB don't want reduced, least of all one of their major cash cows, endless war; and, in the case of Afghanistan, protecting their extremely lucrative opium business by keeping control of the country through never fully ending their occupation of same by U.S. forces. It finances much of their illicit activities all over the globe, continuing their regime-changing , war-fomenting empire building at the expense of the entire world.

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+5 # Radscal 2016-10-13 14:08
Or, if a President does act in defiance of TPTB, they might have a Dealey Plaza moment or unexpected heart attack or "scandal" that brings them to their knees.

As loyal a servent to TPTB that he's been, twice Obama appeared to pull the US Empire back from devastating war.

First, was negotiating the Minsk agreement with Russia, the EU and Ukraine to end the "Civil War."

The very next day, Asst.SoS, Victoria Nuland publicly stated that the treaty was invalid and would never be implemented.

Well, she got her way until the Resistance in Eastern Ukraine (with Russian assistance) had the Ukrainian putsch regime on the ropes, when they finally agreed to cease (or at least radically reduce) the hostilities.

The second was just a couple weeks ago when Kerry and Lavrov signed a cease fire/cessation of hostilities in Syria, which the UN, EU and Syria all agreed to.

The next day, SoD, Ash Carter announced the military would not abide by the terms, and within a couple days, bombed a long-establishe d Syrian Army post in Deir Ezzor, immediately followed by an ISIL offensive.

And then a couple days later, the US bombed two civilian bridges in Deir Ezzor, harshly restricting the Syrian Army's ability to respond to the ISIL offensive.
 
 
+2 # ywsf 2016-10-13 08:49
The USA has reaped the world wind with its violent behavior. America will get its come-uppance because congress must serve the American government contractors to keep getting elected. I fear what is coming for us. We will not go unpunished. If someone did to us, what we have done in the middle East, we would be furious. Furious revenge is coming.
 
 
+1 # Robbee 2016-10-13 09:24
moreover bush2cheney sent republicrats who hate democracy to teach shias how to run a murican style "democracy" - nation building without the building part
 
 
+3 # Radscal 2016-10-13 14:16
Wow! You actually wrote something that's true.

Of course, Obama/Clinton did the same in Sudan and Libya and ongoing in Syria, but with Sunnis.

The Libyan "democracy building" was so successful, that the US was forced to evacuate our State Department, and when some US Special Ops forces arrived to "train" the Jihadists and mercenaries, they were sent packing without ever getting off the tarmac.
 
 
0 # Charles3000 2016-10-14 11:47
The Iraq invasion, occupation and setting up of a puppet government was a total success for those who ordered it. The US dollar is still backed by oil, the US still has a seat at the OPEC table and US oil companies, not those from China, France and Russia, are pumping the oil from the Iraqi fields. Just one set back: ISIL came on the scene and became our enemy when they took back some wells.
 

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