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Reich writes: "Does Hillary Clinton understand that the biggest divide in American politics is no longer between the right and the left, but between the anti-establishment and the establishment? I worry she doesn’t - at least not yet."

Former Clinton Labor Secretary Robert Reich. (photo: Steve Russell/Toronto Star)
Former Clinton Labor Secretary Robert Reich. (photo: Steve Russell/Toronto Star)


Does Hillary Get It?

By Robert Reich, Robert Reich's Website

25 July 16

 

oes Hillary Clinton understand that the biggest divide in American politics is no longer between the right and the left, but between the anti-establishment and the establishment?

I worry she doesn’t – at least not yet.  

A Democratic operative I’ve known since the Bill Clinton administration told me “now that she’s won the nomination, Hillary is moving to the middle. She’s going after moderate swing voters.”

Presumably that’s why she tapped Tim Kaine to be her vice president. Kaine is as vanilla middle as you can get.

In fairness, Hillary is only doing what she knows best. Moving to the putative center is what Bill Clinton did after the Democrats lost the House and Senate in 1994 – signing legislation on welfare reform, crime, trade, and financial deregulation that enabled him to win reelection in 1996 and declare “the era of big government” over.

In those days a general election was like a competition between two hot-dog vendors on a boardwalk extending from right to left. Each had to move to the middle to maximize sales. (If one strayed too far left or right, the other would move beside him and take all sales on rest of the boardwalk.)

But this view is outdated. Nowadays, it’s the boardwalk versus the private jets on their way to the Hamptons. 

The most powerful force in American politics today is anti-establishment fury at a system rigged by big corporations, Wall Street, and the super-wealthy.

This is a big reason why Donald Trump won the Republican nomination. It’s also why Bernie Sanders took 22 states in the Democratic primaries, including a majority of Democratic primary voters under age 45.

There are no longer “moderates.”  There’s no longer a “center.” There’s authoritarian populism (Trump) or democratic populism (which had been Bernie’s “political revolution,” and is now up for grabs). 

And then there’s the Republican establishment (now scattered to the winds), and the Democratic establishment.

If Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party don’t recognize this realignment, they’re in for a rude shock – as, I’m afraid, is the nation. Because Donald Trump does recognize it. His authoritarian (“I’ am your voice”) populism is premised on it.

“In five, ten years from now,” Trump says, “you’re going to have a worker’s party. A party of people that haven’t had a real wage increase in 18 years, that are angry.”

Speaking at a factory in Pennsylvania in June, he decried politicians and financiers who had betrayed Americans by “taking away from the people their means of making a living and supporting their families.”

Worries about free trade used to be confined to the political left. Now, according to the Pew Research Center, people who say free-trade deals are bad for America are more likely to lean Republican.

The problem isn’t trade itself. It’s a political-economic system that won’t cushion working people against trade’s downsides or share trade’s upsides. In other words, a system that’s rigged.

Most basically, the anti-establishment wants big money out of politics. This was the premise of Bernie Sanders’s campaign. It’s also been central to Donald (“I’m so rich I can’t be bought off”) Trump’s appeal, although he’s now trolling for big money.

A recent YouGov/Economist poll found that 80 percent of GOP primary voters who preferred Donald Trump as the nominee listed money in politics as an important issue, and a Bloomberg Politics poll shows a similar percentage of Republicans opposed to the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United v. FEC decision.

Getting big money out of politics is of growing importance to voters in both major parties. A June New York Times/CBS News poll showed that 84 percent of Democrats and 81 percent of Republicans want to fundamentally change or completely rebuild our campaign finance system.

Last January, a DeMoines Register poll of likely Iowa caucus-goers found 91 percent of Republicans and 94 percent of Democrats unsatisfied or “mad as hell” about money in politics. 

Hillary Clinton doesn’t need to move toward the “middle.” In fact, such a move could hurt her if it’s perceived to be compromising the stances she took in the primaries in order to be more acceptable to Democratic movers and shakers.

She needs to move instead toward the anti-establishment – forcefully committing herself to getting big money out of politics, and making the system work for the many rather than a privileged few.

She must make clear Donald Trump’s authoritarian populism is a dangerous gambit, and the best way to end crony capitalism and make America work for the many is to strengthen American democracy.


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+91 # Jayceecool 2016-07-25 08:54
Sorry, Mr Reich, but you're shouting in the wilderness of the corrupt Democratic Party, bought and paid for by Wall Street and big corporations...
 
 
+56 # Anonymot 2016-07-25 10:03
# Radscal 2016-07-24 23:17
Some of y'all may remember me bringing this up. Well:

Anyone who donated to the Bernie Sanders campaign can join a class action lawsuit against the DNC.

dncfraud@jampac.us

Since campaign donations are "free speech," there may still be action for their restricting our 1st Amendment Rights.
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# Anonymot 2016-07-25 09:54
HEY, WHOA!!! EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS!!

This is no small piece of news. There's a movement for a real class action suit against the DNC and possibly against the controlling individuals.

I AM JOINING IT. Not for the money, but if enough people join the suit immediately there could be serious fallout WITHIN THE CONVENTION.
Reply | Reply with quote | Quote | Report to administrator
 
 
+29 # Saberoff 2016-07-25 10:11
Joined last week.
 
 
-13 # rocback 2016-07-25 19:25
breaking News: Sarah Silverman: "you Bernie or Bust" people are ridiculous".

9:25 Monday July 25th.

Amen!
 
 
+9 # CL38 2016-07-25 19:47
still defending your cheatin' candidate crickpick?? don't have the common sense to be ashamed for shillin' for the hillin, even AFTER proof of corruption can't be denied!

Hang your head in shame. really pathetic.
 
 
-13 # lights 2016-07-25 20:05
Check out the convention, CL38. No one is hanging their head in (masochistic) shame!
 
 
+7 # A_Har 2016-07-26 19:19
Quoting lights:
Check out the convention, CL38. No one is hanging their head in (masochistic) shame!
Meaning they HAVE no shame, and they are FINE with supporting criminal actions on the part of THEIR candidate just as you are OK with it too.
 
 
+6 # Dred Pierce 2016-07-26 00:37
Why don't you just crawl back up Clinton's rest area and forget your stupid and pointless support of corruption and evil. Go nuke yourself, let the rest of us enjoy seeing what an idiot you are unfold without any more asinine comments from you. You have been playing the devil's advocate for months now as your love object has been proven again and again to be what your detractors have said she was. Wait till the next bunch of emails come in. Read them and weep you freakin fool.
 
 
+4 # Dred Pierce 2016-07-26 00:38
ROCBACK- This was meant for you. Why don't you just crawl back up Clinton's rest area and forget your stupid and pointless support of corruption and evil. Go nuke yourself, let the rest of us enjoy seeing what an idiot you are unfold without any more asinine comments from you. You have been playing the devil's advocate for months now as your love object has been proven again and again to be what your detractors have said she was. Wait till the next bunch of emails come in. Read them and weep you freakin fool.
 
 
+5 # A_Har 2016-07-26 19:18
Quoting rocback:
breaking News: Sarah Silverman: "you Bernie or Bust" people are ridiculous".

9:25 Monday July 25th.

Amen!
You HRC supporters--no matter what she does--are MORE than ridiculous!
 
 
+10 # bettysdad@yahoo.com 2016-07-25 14:56
Before contacting the fraud people, find and organize your credit card receipts from your donations.

If you don't have, or can;t find them you can download them from the cards' website
 
 
-4 # rocback 2016-07-25 19:29
"I am a Bernie Sanders supporter and..."

"To the Bernie or Bust people, you are being ridiculous"!

Sarah Silverman. JUly 25th 9:25 EST.
 
 
+9 # economagic 2016-07-25 20:23
She thereby proves herself NOT to be a Sanders supporter, but merely a dilettante willing to dabble in waters perceived to be a little bit risque, but not willing to swim for fear of the sharks.
 
 
+11 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 20:34
Just watched this. Silvermen was visibly upset at being booed. I thought she'd handle it better, being a comedian, but she's upset.

As usual, other people are paying the price for Hillary's behavior. If she had made any conciliatory gestures to progressives there would have been a more unified electorate.

Instead she's been arrogant, insulting and .. oh yeah .. she STOLE the nomination.

Other people are getting booed because Clinton doesn't know how to make peace. No matter what's at stake. I'd suppose her narcissism makes your job harder too. What does she care.
 
 
+1 # librarian1984 2016-07-26 14:23
I thought Silverman was an a$$hole, but that's kind of her schtick.

Just because YOU are over something doesn't mean everybody has to fit on your schedule.

They should have just let the Bernie people chant. What harm were they doing? Her and Franken are comedians. Aren't they supposed to know how to handle a room better than THAT.

Some MSM was fawning over what leadership she had shown! haha rocback .. THAT is what a petulant child looks like.
 
 
+9 # guomashi 2016-07-25 20:37
Quoting rocback:
"I am a Bernie Sanders supporter and..."

"To the Bernie or Bust people, you are being ridiculous"!

Sarah Silverman. JUly 25th 9:25 EST.


Yes, she did say that.
But it must be clear, even to the likes of you, that if we don't mindlessly follow Bernie, we sure as hell aren't going to take marching orders form a comedienne.

But you never answered my question.
Is the money you make doing this worth the cost to your self-respect?
 
 
-11 # rocback 2016-07-25 21:53
Please, keep talking. I only yawn when I’m super fascinated.
 
 
+1 # CL38 2016-07-27 03:12
crockkkk. You ARE a yawn.
 
 
+2 # CL38 2016-07-27 03:12
EXCELLENT QUESTION TO hickroc!
 
 
0 # CL38 2016-07-25 19:44
Anonymot,

thanks for posting this.
 
 
+66 # grandlakeguy 2016-07-25 10:15
Hillary Clinton will move BEYOND the middle and will swing to the right!
She cannot help herself since she is still a Goldwater Girl in her heart and she works for her corporate contributors!

The latest polls this morning show her trailing Trump for the first time!
The leaked emails about DNC manipulations will further erode her numbers and serve to support the following:

HILLARY CLINTON IS NO MORE THE LEGITIMATE NOMINEE...


THAN

GEORGE W BUSH WAS THE LEGITIMATE PRESIDENT!

It is not too late for the Democratic party to save us from a Trump presidency...
BERNIE SANDERS IS THE NOMINEE WHO WILL WIN IN NOVEMBER!

(Let us hope that Hillary never gets further than being the Presumptive nominee!)
 
 
+19 # madame de farge 2016-07-25 17:39
Absolutely, I will never vote for the wife of the man who wanted to privatize Social Security 20 years ago, who ignored the Appraisal Fraud, who pissed on Glass Steagal, and who gave us NAFTA and Mass incarcerations. ... That WAS NOT FDR's democratic party and it was more to the right than Eisenhower AND Nixon....
 
 
+9 # economagic 2016-07-25 20:26
Thanks for the eloquent reminder of still more genuine reasons so many people do not trust her. Are ya listenin' rocks?
 
 
+3 # CL38 2016-07-27 03:15
nope, his ears fail him. he only speaks to release all those damn Hillary the voices in his head.
 
 
-4 # wrknight 2016-07-25 12:27
Quoting Jayceecool:
Sorry, Mr Reich, but you're shouting in the wilderness of the corrupt Democratic Party, bought and paid for by Wall Street and big corporations...

It's not so much the democratic party as it is the voters who keep electing them.

Some of us complain about the poor quality of television, but what we see on the tube is what sells. It's the same for political parties.
 
 
+36 # CL38 2016-07-25 14:15
Come on, Mr. Reich, now that email releases confirm what progressives suspected--that Schultz skewed this election against Sanders, what do you think of the Democratic leadership, Clinton and Schultz now??

Clinton's only response? To declare that Schultz would remain in charge behind the scenes--without acknowledging the cheating they've BOTH committed.

You are an insider who knows how the system works. You must see from your perspective what's going on and yet you never say a word.

I can only repeat: this is a giant FU from Clinton and a scheming Schultz who helped her rig primaries and STEAL this election from Sanders. While anything is possible, I have little doubt that Bernie could have won without the theft tactics of both. Neither Clinton nor Schultz seem to feel a need to hide what they've done-they're actually flaunting it!

Clinton, Schultz and the DNC--I sure as hell hope--have a profound lesson to learn. I expect--and trust--election theft will cost them (and the Party) dearly.

Democratic voters don't march in lock-step formation to do the will of the Party for the next 40 years, as Republicans did.

What the "Democrat Party forgot: It's the job of the DNC to listen to the will of the people, not the job of the people to obey the will of the DNC. ...or Clinton/Schultz .
 
 
-22 # rocback 2016-07-25 15:20
Name one single thing Hillary did that could even be remotely considered cheating?
 
 
+18 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 17:43
It is certainly suspicious that her former campaign manager was the head of the party now proven corrupt for attempting to derail HRC's competition. It makes her look guilty more than Watergate made Nixon appear to be initially. Liddy, Hunt & crew had not been that close to Nixon before Watergate.

Nor did Nixon embrace them and have them overtly work on his campaign after the initial corruption was revealed.

One thing that is proven here is that HRC has no problem with cheating when it benefits her. If she was an honest person, she would shun the presence of DWS. If she was no more dishonest than the average politician, she would be rid of DWS in order to avoid the perception of corruption. But HRC is exceptional in her willingness to embrace the freshly proven corrupt as her new "honorary chair".
 
 
+17 # madame de farge 2016-07-25 17:44
Look at is this way, what else would you expect Ms Clinton to do with her annual 25 million dollar a year salary from Goldman Sachs via their tax deductible contributions to the Clinton Foundation... And who knows what Bills salary is or how much has been to that socalled charitable foundation for the last 20 years.. OLIGARCHS just like in Russia and of course Hillary knew that her private server was illegal, she just did not intend for it to be illegal and who knows who she SHARED that information with, but by Gum she has protected it from the Freedom of Information Requests.
 
 
+19 # WhatNext? 2016-07-25 09:00
It doesn't matter whether HRC "gets it." Repub Govs of swing states will flip the votes and Trump will "win."
Kiktrakis and Wasserman: “GOP Swing State Governors will Strip and Flip Donald Trump into the White House."

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/38193-will-rick-scott-john-kasich-and-other-gop-swing-state-governors-put-donald-trump-in-the-white-house
 
 
+55 # Anonymot 2016-07-25 09:07
Hillary has not shot herself in the foot, but in the head - and we'll all be buried with her despicable ignorance, her ego, her greed, and her bad judgment.

Reading your article merely is convincing that between these two devils there is a greater chance of survival with Trump than with the Clintons/ Deep State.

Mr. Reich, you surely have the Clinton phone number. Tell her to stand down in favor of Sanders or she will go down in the infamy she has brought on herself.
 
 
-42 # rocback 2016-07-25 10:01
There we go. The Trump trojan horses dropping all pretenses.
 
 
+50 # jimallyn 2016-07-25 10:57
Quoting rocback:
There we go. The Trump trojan horses dropping all pretenses.

That's not what I see. What I see is Hillary Clinton dropping all pretenses of a fair primary. Her little poodle dog, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, rigged the primary, which got her dumped from the DNC chair position. And immediately after DWS was dumped from the chair position, Hillary hired her to work on her campaign. How much did they have to pay you to ignore that, rocback?
 
 
-42 # lights 2016-07-25 11:36
Poodle dog??????

YOU are an unintelligent chauvinist PIG, Mr. Jim Allyn!
 
 
+14 # bettysdad@yahoo.com 2016-07-25 15:00
How is "poodle dog" sexist to anyone but a Feminist wannbe?
 
 
+9 # CL38 2016-07-25 20:00
How do you & crockhick have the 'balls' to show up on this site after the cheatin' hillary wssrmn shultz has been revealed to B the frauds we knew they are.
 
 
+8 # madame de farge 2016-07-25 17:45
Exactly!!!
 
 
+33 # reiverpacific 2016-07-25 11:03
Quoting rocback:
There we go. The Trump trojan horses dropping all pretenses.


First it was "The Bernie Trojan Horses", now it's the "Trump--ditto".
Can't stand reality, can you?
And Bernie still has a huge following, the California hi-jinks with voter rolls notwithstanding !
 
 
-31 # rocback 2016-07-25 13:24
All you have heard from me since the beginning was Trump trojan horses. I even posted a 5 step process and sure enough, we are now on step 5.

As for DWS, you got your pound of flesh from a dedicated public servant with a big heart who has done more for the progressive cause than all the "Bust" posters on this board put together.

I have even more respect for her for sacrificing her own political standing for the good of the country. Shame on all of you for attacking her.
 
 
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+5 # bettysdad@yahoo.com 2016-07-25 15:02
I can see your track marks from here
 
 
+22 # harleysch 2016-07-25 15:30
ROCBACK, You can' be serious!!!!! How was the good of the country served by the machinations of the DNC, led by DWS, against a candidate who actually was working for the good of the country?

With the Wikileaks emails coming out, are you going to defend what the DNC did? Is the use of straight-forwar d anti-Semitism against Bernie for the "good of the country"?

Your defense of DWS is even more perverse than your defense of HRC!
 
 
-13 # rocback 2016-07-25 16:08
I was referring to her stepping down, not what the DNC did.
 
 
+14 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 17:52
So you are saying that she did "more for the progressive cause" by stepping down? Does that make up for her trying to destroy the campaign of the progressive candidate?
 
 
+8 # madame de farge 2016-07-25 17:47
Rocback....So how much are you getting from the Superpac....Gue ss you can work from home and get massive tax deductions...Co ol for you...
 
 
-10 # rocback 2016-07-25 19:33
They couldn't afford me.
 
 
+6 # CL38 2016-07-25 20:08
no one wants you.
 
 
+2 # CL38 2016-07-25 23:56
it looks like they could easily 'afford' you.
 
 
+5 # CL38 2016-07-25 20:02
hahahaha

....you're nothing but a huge FKG joke. get lost crock.
 
 
-21 # lights 2016-07-25 13:52
reiverpacific:

Oh, I can stand reality. What I CANNOT STAND are those who cannot or WILL not SEE REALITY and especially when it is so dangerous!

Despite almost EVERYTHING Bernie fought for that is NOW integrated into the Democratic Party Platform and despite the fact that he has told ALL of you to work to make sure TRUMP is NOT elected - YOU just CANNOT seem to face this reality! WHAT DO YOU WANT?

Clearly you WANT TRUMP to be elected so you can have REVENGE! YOU DO NOT CARE about the cost to millions and millions of vulnerable people in this country who will be IMMEDIATELY and deeply affected!
 
 
+22 # Cassandra2012 2016-07-25 14:34
Nonsense! WTFU! The rigging disenfranchised not only younger voters but the rest of us who are staunch FDR/JFK Democrats!
Not only should these despicable establishment 'DINOS' step down, but they should realize they will end up losing the election to the neo-fascist misogynist bigot and bully, Trump bc they are such shortsighted selfish little dolts!
 
 
-19 # rocback 2016-07-25 15:09
There was no rigging that affected a single vote no matter how much you mistate it.
 
 
+11 # Ken Halt 2016-07-25 16:07
crock: Still peddling baloney!
 
 
+7 # CL38 2016-07-25 20:07
crickcrock, YOU ARE A LIAR. A bought and sold LIAR.
 
 
+1 # Dred Pierce 2016-07-26 00:48
rocback- You are a liar and a propagandist from the dark side. The stupid is STRONG in you. I hope they paid you well. I wouldn't give you a nickel for your deluded soul. There is someone who might want it though. Don't go towards the light. You don't belong there. That's right follow the shadows just up to the right. Enjoy!
 
 
+6 # CL38 2016-07-25 20:06
blights,

.You have not one scintilla of credibility. None. take your hypocritical HS and go
 
 
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-5 # JCM 2016-07-25 22:56
Nicely said lights! You would think anyone that supported Bernie would hate the thought of Trump winning. Everything Bernie is Trump is not. Even when he says he agrees with Bernie, you can't believe anything he says. If you do, you will get ripped off.
 
 
+2 # Patriot 2016-07-25 23:39
what about the bus, lights? You forgot to shout that we'd throw everyone under the bus. Is it in the shop for repairs?
 
 
+2 # CL38 2016-07-25 23:57
thanks for the laugh!
 
 
+12 # dbrize 2016-07-25 11:22
Quoting rocback:
There we go. The Trump trojan horses dropping all pretenses.


And to think...just yesterday I praised you for at least not being as boring and repititious as Rob, er, what's his name.

You have a talent for the decent one liner now and again, don't get lazy.
 
 
-17 # rocback 2016-07-25 15:11
If ignorance is bliss, you must be the happiest person on the planet.
 
 
+6 # dbrize 2016-07-25 16:19
Quoting rocback:
If ignorance is bliss, you must be the happiest person on the planet.


Slightly better but still below R's standards. Which represents a very low threshold.

Let's chalk it up to being a Monday after you had to work on Sunday. These damn leaks put a lot of pressure on a guy. I do commiserate with your predicament.
 
 
-10 # rocback 2016-07-25 19:36
I don’t know what your problem is, but I’m guessing it’s hard to pronounce.
 
 
+7 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 21:02
You should be nice to dbrize. She (I believe) has been overly generous and even empathetic toward you. You seldom get that from other progressives.
 
 
+4 # dbrize 2016-07-26 12:25
A "he" but empathy is cross gender I hope.

I have from time to time over the years referenced myself as "independent" rather than a progressive. I find particularly important areas of agreement with progressives, opposition to our foreign policy, civil liberty encroachments and trade agreements key among them.

That said, there are certainly areas where my disagreements have produced the commensurate quantity of red thumbs. :-)

I find political labels more tribal identity than meaningful.
 
 
+27 # Skyelav 2016-07-25 09:10
Yep. HAHAHAHA she doesn't even care. Reason: they tell her what to do and she does it, or they tell Trump, they don't even care about that as long as they get theirs.
 
 
+46 # backwards_cinderella 2016-07-25 09:13
NO she doesn't get it. & she doesn't care.
 
 
+39 # Helga Fellay 2016-07-25 09:34
and Reich doesn't get it either or he would not have written that "the biggest divide in American politics is no longer between the right and the left, but between the anti-establishm ent and the establishment." It's both. The establishment represents the right, in both parties. The left represents those that are leaving both establishment parties to join the Greens or the growing numbers of voters unaffiliated with either party.
 
 
-35 # lights 2016-07-25 11:31
That's right Helga. HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE? YOU can afford to vote Green and in doing so MAKE SURE TRUMP wins. But what about the rest of the American people?

Do you have ANY conscience at all?

Your actions, your desire for revenge is insidiously destructive and could profoundly affect the lives of MOST Americans!
 
 
+13 # bettysdad@yahoo.com 2016-07-25 15:05
I have a lot of money, and worked and donated to Bernie.

What is your point?
 
 
-17 # lights 2016-07-25 15:44
I made my point. YOU can AFFORD to vote for Jill Stein because YOU don't have to worry or be concerned because YOU HAVE MONEY - and YOU will NOT be affected!
 
 
+6 # dbrize 2016-07-25 16:22
Quoting lights:
I made my point. YOU can AFFORD to vote for Jill Stein because YOU don't have to worry or be concerned because YOU HAVE MONEY - and YOU will NOT be affected!


You been cavorting with IRS agents? You sure know a lot about OPM's.
 
 
+5 # CL38 2016-07-25 20:13
just too bad for you.
 
 
+6 # economagic 2016-07-25 20:30
That is just plain stupid, as well as a non-sequitur.
 
 
0 # CL38 2016-07-26 00:00
blights, keep on keepin' on...practice makes perfect! keep on practicing those dol garn speeches.. say them clear and out loud in front of the mirror,,,,,,,it 'll get better with time.
 
 
+54 # corduroyz 2016-07-25 10:00
You hit that one on the head. Hillary is in this race for the power—and power only. If you've watched closely, she has absolutely no VISION. Her stances on issues are based wholly on Bernie's vision. I don't believe she has even a foggy view of where she would lead the nation. She merely wants to sit on the throne.
 
 
+36 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 10:42
Oh, c'mon, give her credit. She's not that shallow!

It's for power AND money.
 
 
+26 # corduroyz 2016-07-25 10:45
Duly noted. You're right.
 
 
+16 # guomashi 2016-07-25 11:24
No.
She already has the money.
It's the power and the power alone.

She just sucks up to people with money so they can buy her the power.
 
 
+10 # Anonymot 2016-07-25 14:29
guomashi,
No one with money ever has enough.
 
 
+5 # kundrol 2016-07-25 14:53
This is true. It's a terrible sickness.
 
 
-7 # bettysdad@yahoo.com 2016-07-25 15:07
Not true.

You must not know many rich people
 
 
-4 # lights 2016-07-25 15:48
I agree. It doesn't have to be that way with money.

And rich/er people do not have to choose to BE out of touch and live in the illusion that they are protecting themselves.
 
 
+6 # CL38 2016-07-25 20:14
usually not the 1%.
 
 
+5 # guomashi 2016-07-25 20:49
Quoting Anonymot:
guomashi,
No one with money ever has enough.


Hillary is ambitious.
She is not merely greedy.
I feel it is extremely dangerous to underestimate the extent of her ambition.

The demonization of Russia has a bunch of 'perqs' that come along with it.
These include things like the ability to start wars, declare national emergencies, etc. etc. all of which lead to an increase of presidential power.

The costs of her lust for power are far in excess of anything that can be imagined by normal people, who simply don't think that way.
 
 
+23 # glyde 2016-07-25 11:43
Quoting corduroyz:
Duly noted. You're right.

Her driving concern is to be the first woman president of the USA and live forever in history books.
 
 
+23 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 11:52
The funny thing is, that instead of making me support HRC, it makes me take a new look at other 'first's.

It's too bad HRC doesn't care about the 99% as much as she cares about herself.
 
 
-18 # lights 2016-07-25 13:58
No, it is truly too bad, so sad lib that YOU cannot get past your deep seated resentments - in order to see that if Trump gets elected MILLIONS and MILLIONS of vulnerable United States Citizens are going to suffer GREATLY! THAT is a FACT! Not to mention the end of the HUGE momentum for minorities in this country! Your choices are stunningly selfish!
 
 
+11 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 15:02
We have been telling you for months this would happen. You can't blame us now because it's happening.

Clinton is a disgrace to feminists, and so is DWS. I'm glad she's out. I hope more heads will roll.

Barney Frank just got booed too.

And even Sen. Sanders was booed by hundreds this morning when he told them they needed to help elect HRC.

ooops!
 
 
-16 # rocback 2016-07-25 15:17
Librarian, I guess you don't mind Trump being president and eliminating Planned Parenthood funding or the requirement under the ACA that requires birth control to be covered.

I guess that makes sense. You’ll never need birth control with a personality like that.

:-)
 
 
+7 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 15:54
this is your hero, lights?
 
 
-14 # rocback 2016-07-25 16:16
Need help librarian? For the queen of insults, you sure are thin skinned.
 
 
+7 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 16:43
things tense at hq?

i wonder where mako is.
 
 
+6 # CL38 2016-07-25 20:21
Hillary worried someone might 'out' her election fraud too?
 
 
+6 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 20:40
You never know -- more emails coming out.
 
 
-12 # lights 2016-07-25 18:46
Hillary is my hero darlin....Hillary!

...rocback?
 
 
+7 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 18:52
In your presence Roc, we are all more concerned about the need for birth control and Planned Parenthood than ever.

But regardless of what all else HRC may have lied about, her inevitable support for the TPP and other fascist trade agreements could easily prevent such funding anyway, even if HRC cared.
 
 
-11 # rocback 2016-07-25 19:38
Bill was the best president we had in 50 years until this November.
 
 
+10 # economagic 2016-07-25 20:33
You mean the best REPUBLICAN president, as I said early in his second term.
 
 
+2 # CL38 2016-07-26 00:06
Looks like something stole roccrack's tongue. he's finally lost the ability to speak.
 
 
+2 # librarian1984 2016-07-26 14:25
yayayayayayayay ayayay
 
 
+7 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 21:11
Even if that was true, it would not have been much of an accomplishment.
 
 
+3 # Dred Pierce 2016-07-26 00:53
lights- you can join your soul mate rocback in stupidly defending the indefensible. What a joke you are being the devil's advocate for the DEVIL. Who do you think you have fooled? When the smoking gun arrives that puts your demon doll where she belongs I will post a requiem to your misguided BS. Take birth as a cow in your next life, lots of BS to enjoy for you.
 
 
+8 # kundrol 2016-07-25 14:57
She'll live forever in history books all right, as the worst candidate for pres ever, male or female.
 
 
-8 # Caliban 2016-07-25 16:55
Never heard of Strom Thurmond or George Wallace?
 
 
+8 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 18:14
How many wars did they promote before running?
 
 
+9 # Billy Bob 2016-07-25 19:21
Great comeback!

She's not Trump.
She's not George Wallace.
She's not Atila the Hun.
She's not Caligula.

Too bad she IS Hitlery Clinton.
 
 
+5 # CL38 2016-07-25 20:23
Just wait...if she makes it before being outed as engaging in election fraud.....she would be worse than Bush Thurmond and Wallace put together.

sonotwithhillarythecheat.
 
 
+4 # bettysdad@yahoo.com 2016-07-25 15:07
She already has some of the money, and a lot of power
 
 
-10 # lights 2016-07-25 15:54
So happy for her success......
 
 
+1 # CL38 2016-07-27 03:42
not at the people's expense and rights.
 
 
+5 # CL38 2016-07-25 20:13
Excellent! High fives...and all that!
 
 
+9 # Anonymot 2016-07-25 14:26
You overlook a basic fact. It's true everywhere, but even more so in DC: Power=Money, Money=Power.

It's impossible and unimportant to know which the Clintons seek. It may be both which equals a dictatorship.
 
 
-10 # lights 2016-07-25 18:48
Money and Power speak! Loudly. Effectively for any movement.
 
 
+6 # CL38 2016-07-25 20:24
maybe for you blights.
 
 
+7 # Ralph 2016-07-25 17:08
She has no domestic policy and her foreign policy is one of belligerence. No fly zones over Syria, saber rattling towards Iran. Where she wants to lead us is into WW3.
 
 
+2 # CL38 2016-07-26 00:08
still tryin' to prove that she can outgun and out-war, anything she encounters..loo k what she tried to do to Bernie Sanders.
 
 
+2 # librarian1984 2016-07-26 14:27
With Russia!

Because the ground war in the ME has gone so well.

Wait .. are we still in that? So we're talking about -- how many fronts will she be manhandling??
 
 
0 # guomashi 2016-07-27 07:34
Quoting librarian1984:
With Russia!

Because the ground war in the ME has gone so well.

Wait .. are we still in that? So we're talking about -- how many fronts will she be manhandling??


Those who say the $Hill monster won't start WW III are correct. We are already in it. Like my friends abroad say, it may take Russia and China to slap us down. Hold on to your fallout shelter!
 
 
+3 # librarian1984 2016-07-26 14:28
Bernie's just given her her domestic agenda, all wrapped up with a pretty red bow.
 
 
+42 # politicaleconomist 2016-07-25 09:13
Of course, she "gets it" but she is on the side of the establishment.
The only way to continue the revolution is to continue the revolution: that is, to vote for Jill Stein.
A year ago everyone said that Bernie Sanders was a sideshow and we proved that idea wrong. We need to do the same for Jill Stein. She can beat Trump because her ideas and platform are the majoritarian ideas of Sanders. Those who vote for HRC are perpetuating rule by and for the elite. We do not need to abort the progressive agenda by throwing away our votes for another Clinton.
 
 
+6 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 18:18
Let us wait til Friday to debate the best course of action. Between Sanders' underestimated cunning, the timing of the leaks so far and the promise of more to come, we may be premature in turning completely to Stein.
 
 
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+40 # wantrealdemocracy 2016-07-25 09:22
Reich is incorrect to say that Hillary does not have to move to the center she needs to be more "anti establishment". We must face the fact that she is so far to the right she can't see any center. As far as her being anti establishment, that is totally impossible. She IS THE ESTABLISHMENT!

Mr. Reich is limited himself in seeing the center. He is a LOYAL DEMOCRAT TO THE CORE. He knows a lot about the faults of Ms. Clinton but he will not consider any candidate who is not a member of the Democratic Party---not that they are truly 'democratic'. Far from that! They are bought and paid for by the extremely wealthy and even more extremely greedy people in our nation.

If you vote for either a Democrat or a Republican you have not learned anything about the political system in the United States since Slick Willie establish the Democratic Leadership Council and left the working people out on the street, out of work and out of information about the truth of the corruption in our government.

Stop voting for the lesser evil. It has gotten SO BAD by this method that our democracy has been killed. No way does Congress heed the voice of the people. Do you want all these wars? Do you want all the wealth of our nation in the hands of the greedy few? Would you like to end the 'austerity' that is destroying all of our domestic programs that are vital to our way of life?

Stand up and insist on change. No Ds and no Rs. There are other candidates on the ballot.
 
 
-12 # tswhiskers 2016-07-25 09:45
Reich didn't say that Hillary HAS TO move to the center, just that she WILL move that way. She is by nature a moderate, which is not really a good thing to be in this day and age. As for "other candidates" on the ballot, please see my post a little further down the page.
 
 
+33 # DENSTL 2016-07-25 09:24
I used to have Bernie signs and now I have Stein signs
Hillary will lose and unless we can get Stein elected Trump will be the next President
 
 
-18 # tswhiskers 2016-07-25 09:42
Stein will get elected when both pigs and elephants fly. You have the right to waste your vote; just be aware that a vote for her will end up being a vote for Trump.
 
 
+19 # fuzzbuzz 2016-07-25 10:56
Actually, a vote for HRC is a vote for Trump.

HRC has NO CHANCE of defeating Trump. NONE.

Either the DNC should nominate Sanders, or we have to vote for Jill Stein. There's NO OTHER WAY TO BEAT TRUMP.

You have the right to waste your vote on HRC if you like, just be aware that a vote for her will end up being a vote for Trump.
 
 
+21 # jimmyjames 2016-07-25 11:29
Quoting tswhiskers:
Stein will get elected when both pigs and elephants fly. You have the right to waste your vote; just be aware that a vote for her will end up being a vote for Trump.


That is such an old argument that all you Hillary supporters continue to use. Why? because you cannot come up with reasonable reasons to vote for Hillary Clinton. It's always "vote for Hillary or else". Well, that is hardly an argument to support someone to be President. If all you Clinton supporters don't have anything to add to the discussion,take a hike!
 
 
-12 # rocback 2016-07-25 16:20
Sorry, Jimmy (Russian apologist) james, but we like it here. So hit the road. Besides, we have given you the multitude of reasons over and over again. I guess they went over your head.

As for the argument that Hillary is better than Trump you better get used to it because that is our only choice.

We are not voting for the "almighty", we are voting for the "alternative".
 
 
+7 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 18:25
Compared to the US, what does Russia have to apologize for in recent times?

I think you meant: "We are not voting for the 'almighty', we are voting for the 'opposite'".
 
 
-10 # rocback 2016-07-25 19:39
try Crimea
 
 
+6 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 21:20
If Russia had annexed Crimea against the will of the people there, it would not begin to compare to the destruction the US has done in any of numerous places under Obama alone.

But the people of Crimea voted to join Russia voluntarily.

You have nothing.
 
 
+4 # CL38 2016-07-26 00:16
Still pushing the election thief-in-chief.
 
 
+1 # CL38 2016-07-26 00:14
yes! Yes, YES YES YES!

I vote for "Take a hike"!

Despite today's events, I admit it's almost been a great day without the posts of...

uh...oh...I see them rounding the bend! Oh no...IT'S CROCKHACK, BLIGHTS AND THE REST....
 
 
+2 # librarian1984 2016-07-26 14:28
hahahaha
 
 
-6 # tswhiskers 2016-07-26 08:59
If Trump weren't running, and he wasn't the man-baby that he is, I'd say vote for whom you will and let the chips fall where they may. I do prefer Bernie to Hillary, but I have yet to see an election campaign in which I didn't have to make do with "2d best" in my choice of candidate. I am a Hillary supporter ONLY because Bernie did not win the primaries and because she is DEFINITELY a much better person for the office than Trump. As Sarah Silverman said last night at the Convention, we Bernie supporters are being ridiculous.
 
 
-20 # lights 2016-07-25 10:55
Stein is at 3%. Johnson at 9%. Get real.

So many dangerous Republican trolls on this site it is astonishing.
 
 
+21 # fuzzbuzz 2016-07-25 11:23
The only trolls around here are the ones still defending the lying cheating war criminal.
 
 
-17 # lights 2016-07-25 11:26
Yes, agreed! TRUMP is a lying, cheating CRIMINAL! You are using this argument as a red herring to make sure TRUMP gets elected. YOU ONLY WANT REVENGE!

And you are the warmonger!
 
 
+6 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 18:28
Your arguments sound more childish as we go, lights. You won't be able to regress much further without losing your ability to communicate with words.
 
 
-9 # rocback 2016-07-25 19:43
Please just tell me you don’t plan to home-school your kids.
 
 
+7 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 21:26
Even if that was my plan, I would not be ambitious enough to attempt to re-educate lights.
 
 
+2 # CL38 2016-07-26 00:25
It's not 'business-as-us ual here for you rochack. The secrets of your candidate and her honcho are being released. I look forward to the next release for Clinton's campaign activities. The thief in chief you support Ad infinitum, had the curtain pulled back today just a smattering...an d what did we see?? Her cheatin ways....loyalty to no one but 1% masters pullin' her strings. What's next on the docket I wonder?
 
 
-8 # bettysdad@yahoo.com 2016-07-25 15:12
You won't get Stein elected.
 
 
-10 # lights 2016-07-25 15:56
Hmmm. pretty cool and you know you are right!
 
 
+2 # CL38 2016-07-26 00:11
brought to you by the DNC and Hillary.
 
 
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+27 # tswhiskers 2016-07-25 09:41
If, as you say, Hillary is now moving away from the Left and going to the center, I suspect she may not win the election. After all, one of the greatest observations by the media and the public has been that there are few if any moderates left in either party. i hope that you and other Dem. Party members can encourage her to maintain a progressive agenda throughout the election and into the WH. This is a big reason why Americans don't trust politicians; they say what their base wants to hear and then change their policies, often drastically, once in office. This is why I don't trust Hillary.
 
 
-13 # rocback 2016-07-25 16:51
She has made her positions clear, unlike Trump who changes from day to day. she has a public record and a website in writing on what she will do from day one.
 
 
+8 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 18:30
Written or not, her lies are non-binding.
 
 
+48 # Buddha 2016-07-25 09:41
One could argue that the Tim Kaine appointment shows that she doesn't get it. The Dems strayed from Progressive principles and stopped caring about the working class. Whereas the GOP hasn't represented the working class in more than a century. The irony is that the Republican Party overthrew their bought-and-paid -for Establishment, whereas the Democratic Party simply re-nominated its Establishment for ANOTHER 4 years of rigging the system against the working class. If Trump wins, it isn't going to be "idiot Americans'" fault, it isn't going to be the fault of any of us Progressives who vote Stein or just don't show up, it will be the fault of the Democratic Party Establishment and the "Stockholm Syndrome" Dem voters who supported that Establishment in the Primary for shoving such a despised and untrustworthy candidate like HRC down our throats.
 
 
-13 # rocback 2016-07-25 16:53
You make no sense. If you don't vote for Hillary and trump wins, it's the fault of anyone who doesn't vote for Hillary. It's that simple.

You remind me of Ralph Nader who is still trying to deny the obvious.
 
 
+7 # CL38 2016-07-25 20:27
guilt tripping never works with progressives.
 
 
-9 # Caliban 2016-07-25 17:09
Sorry, Buddha, but the real irony is that self-called Progressives are working intentionally or unintentionally to hand the White House directly to the Billionaire class's best known spokesperson.

And they sound proud of themselves! Sad.
 
 
+9 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 18:34
Yes, most HRC followers do consider themselves progressives, and are miseducated and in denial enough to be proud.
 
 
+7 # CL38 2016-07-25 20:28
what's sad is those who support clinton despite rampant corruption of every kind. get a conscience, get a moral base, get a functioning brain.
 
 
+4 # CL38 2016-07-26 00:28
Those responsible for a Trump Presidency will be those who brought you the 2016 Clinton version of the Bush stolen elections.
 
 
+7 # economagic 2016-07-25 20:39
Quoting Buddha:
If Trump wins, it isn't going to be "idiot Americans'" fault, it isn't going to be the fault of any of us Progressives who vote Stein or just don't show up, it will be the fault of the Democratic Party Establishment and the "Stockholm Syndrome" Dem voters who supported that Establishment in the Primary for shoving such a despised and untrustworthy candidate like HRC down our throats.


Those are precisely the "idiot Americans" I had in mind, although I don't recall actually using that term myself.
 
 
+21 # tedrey 2016-07-25 09:47
" the biggest divide in American politics is no longer between the right and the left, but between the anti-establishm ent and the establishment?"

NOW you get it, Richard, too late, when we here have been telling it to you over and over. What you still don't get is the obvious fact that Hillary herself is establishment beyond redemption.

What you've actually done is to help derail Sanders and thus bring us Trump. I weep for you if and when you realize that.
 
 
+13 # christianadvocate 2016-07-25 09:52
It is amazing to me that the party whose very existence is premised on beating down wages and jobs so that profits could rise for corporate America, has actually seized from the Democrats the working class. This is due to the Dems spending their time focused on moral and cultural issues at the expense of the every-day working class individual. Shame on us Democrats for letting it happen.
 
 
+25 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 10:49
I agree. This is also what Sen. Sanders has said, he refuses to let the GOP claim working class votes.

Unfortunately the DNC and Clintons have decided their loyalties lie with Big Business and the MIC.

But I disagree the Dems problem is being on the wrong side of social issues. The public is moving more toward 'liberal' social stands all the time. It's the kowtowing to corporatist interests that has alienated working class voters and caused the schism in the party.

Of course they KNOW what the divide is, Mr. Reich. They've just chosen the wrong side.
 
 
+9 # RMF 2016-07-25 12:51
Good points both -- but in seizing the working class issue the GOP is lying.
Proof can be found in Trump's remark during the debates, when he said "the country cannot afford a minimum wage increase."
And the large tax cuts proposed by Trump/GOP will not leave any money left over for blue-collar re-training or other work related safety net programs.
The GOP will then use the tax cut plan as a centerpiece for its "worker recovery" program, citing that a tax-cut-induced boost in economic growth will raise all boots, as Laffer first argued during the Reagan campaign. These Trump tax cuts will not increase job opportunity in the US (anymore than those of W did) but instead simply increase our trade deficit with China.
So the entire Trump/GOP plan is, not surprisingly, just a big lie.
As a Bernie supporter (who will vote for Hillary) this is all very dispiriting, and I am starting to think the unthinkable may occur.
 
 
+6 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 17:18
Definitely. At some point those supporters will realize they've been duped.
 
 
-8 # Caliban 2016-07-25 17:20
# christianadvoca te --
Are you saying that "every-day working class" individuals have no morals and culture? Shame on you for that low and slanderous insinuation.

Perhaps you really mean that the GOP has more "christianadvoc y" than the Democrats.

Please explain yourself a bit.
 
 
+2 # CL38 2016-07-27 03:56
Think Republicans seizing the working class is due to Democrats focused not so much on moral and cultural issues; more on how to revamp the party to succeed as part of the 1%.
 
 
+42 # Blackjack 2016-07-25 09:55
No, she doesn't get it and she doesn't care. This entire election is all about her. She's not as vocal in her narcissism as Trump is, but it exists, nonetheless. She also doesn't get how she and her DNC henchmen have turned off older, loyal Dems. I will not vote for her and my days as a Dem loyalist are over. I could once hold my head up high, knowing that Dems had higher moral values and cared more about the little people than the Repukes. No more. For the last 40 years Dems have slid more and more rightward, to the point that I no longer recognize the party. It truly has left me and now I am leaving it. The election is up for grabs and the Dem candidate should be one who "gets it." That would be Bernie, of course, but thanks to the sleazy tactics employed by the Dem Party, the DNC, and HRC, the best man/woman will NOT win in 2016. Dems have squandered a golden opportunity and the party, the country and the world will suffer as a result.
 
 
-15 # rocback 2016-07-25 16:57
TheDemocrats were too far to the left and lost every election from McGovern, to Mondale to Dukakis in landslides.

Bill Clinton came along and moved the party to the center left and we have won every election since, except one. The Democrats have won 5 out of the last 6 presidential popular votes.

Thats where the nation is and moving more to the left will surely lose the election.
 
 
+11 # Blackjack 2016-07-25 17:36
What a bunch of unadulterated crap, rockie! Spoken like a true Clinton who actually believes the garbage they spew forth!
 
 
-9 # rocback 2016-07-25 19:45
Do you deny we won 5 out of the last 6 popular votes?

Do you deny we lost by a landslide before that except for Carter's first election?

Facts are stubborn things.
 
 
+16 # Merlin 2016-07-25 09:56
Sorry, Robert, you are the one that doesn't get it if you even entertain the thought you express here in this article. The question of whether sHillary "gets it" or not, is totally besides the point. This question might have had relevance back in 1964 when she was a young Goldwater Girl. It has none today, after her 50 years in politics of espousing the same ideology whether there is a D or an R after her name.

Are you so blinded by your long term friendship with the Clintons that you can not see, or that you refuse to see, what is really going on?

Unfortunately, what ever the reason, you also, have become irrelevant in today's political world with banal, unrealistic comments in a column like this.
 
 
+18 # Anonymot 2016-07-25 10:01
# Radscal 2016-07-24 23:17
Some of y'all may remember me bringing this up. Well:

Anyone who donated to the Bernie Sanders campaign can join a class action lawsuit against the DNC.

dncfraud@jampac.us

Since campaign donations are "free speech," there may still be action for their restricting our 1st Amendment Rights.
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# Anonymot 2016-07-25 09:54
HEY, WHOA!!! EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS!!

This is no small piece of news. There's a movement for a real class action suit against the DNC and possibly against the controlling individuals.

I AM JOINING IT. Not for the money, but if enough people join the suit immediately there could be serious fallout WITHIN THE CONVENTION.
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+2 # CL38 2016-07-27 04:00
what I saw when I checked further was that you had to contribute to the Democratic Party. I contribute to Bernie but opted out of giving to Democrats a long time ago.
 
 
+21 # ChrisCurrie 2016-07-25 10:06
Donald Trump has already begun to “nail” Hillary on the trade issue, so unless Hillary and the Democratic Party make it unmistakably clear that they will ABSOLUTELY AND TOTALLY KILL Obama's dishonestly promoted TPP/TTIP/TiSA rigged “trade agreement” initiatives, this issue alone could easily SINK the Democratic Party this November!
 
 
+24 # fuzzbuzz 2016-07-25 11:05
She could take a blood oath on a stack of bibles and it would still be meaningless.

She'll simply call it something else when the time comes and still sign it.

The only indicator of these peoples' personalities is their past actions, and HRC's past actions have been loudly and clearly for the corporate interests. It simply does not matter what she or her minions say.
 
 
-18 # lights 2016-07-25 11:39
ALL DISGUSTING REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS!

Or insane!
 
 
+14 # guomashi 2016-07-25 10:12
Reich seems to be seeing the light?
Maybe he got tired of shilling?

Hillary is to ambitious and too arrogant to notice her own flaws.

Are you having these conversations with her?
Time is short to fix things for the Democrat party.

If not, kiss yourselves goodbye!
 
 
-10 # rocback 2016-07-25 19:47
Remember when we asked for your opinion, guomashi? Me neither.
 
 
+9 # economagic 2016-07-25 20:45
Remember when we asked for YOURS?

You are undoubtedly aware that guomashi consistently gets high positives here, making your remark as disingenuous as Ms. Clinton's nominal embrace of certain "progressive" positions, though of course she remains on both sides of the one that could make all the others irrelevant, the TPP.
 
 
+28 # samothrellim 2016-07-25 10:12
Good God! What does the tone deaf Clinton campaign do but HIRE disgraced former DNC chair Wasserman Schultz, shooting itself in the foot once again.
 
 
+5 # Anonymot 2016-07-25 14:38
It's okay. She has two right feet and no feat left.
 
 
-12 # lights 2016-07-25 16:02
You. Tribal warrior with the headdress.

You. You are the one not listening. Not observing the invisible emerge... becoming visible.
 
 
+8 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 18:40
And now you go from childishness to pure nonsense.
 
 
+4 # economagic 2016-07-25 20:46
Thus answering the question [posed by the good professor.
 
 
+24 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 10:17
First off, HRC has NOT won the nomination. You can say it 5000 times but it doesn't make it true. Nice AP imitation BTW.

Secondly, Kaine is as 'vanilla middle' as you can get? Really? MOST people are FOR TPP, fracking, WS deregulation and limits on women's control of their own healthcare? hmm

I'm in PA, a big state in play, and if the election were held today I think Trump would win.

Establishment vs populism -- that's the big idea? Everybody has known this for a year. You going to tell us all about the iphone 5 next? Or is the news that the Clinton people aren't listening, aren't taking input, aren't even pretending to be transparent or honest? yawn.

Trump isn't desirable but he can read a room and he's right about the left forming a populist party. If the Democrats don't eject the Clintons this week they are looking at a new opponent from the left, and they can kiss the executive goodbye for a long time. They can kiss a Democratic Senate goodbye too because HRC heading the ticket will depress the base. Literally!

It is really a pleasure to watch the convention activities. These establishment shills are squirming under the negative attention. I've even seen a couple of reporters ask tough questions! It's about time.

If Philadelphia can stop the Clinton machine in its tracks I would be so proud.

Stay safe everybody. It's going to be humid and 97 degrees. Misting stations are up and EMTs are present.
 
 
-8 # rocback 2016-07-25 19:48
Give it two more days.
 
 
-11 # ishmael 2016-07-25 10:20
Mr Reich makes a good point.

I'd argue however that populism is one of the two important aspects at work; the other aspect is a view of the existence of an "other" that needs to be defeated, a negative view of humanity.

The GOPee has nominated a misanththropic (anti - "other") populist; the Dems will nominate a nonpopulist progressive.

Il Douche has populism in his favor; HRC has progressive views in hers but not populism.
 
 
+16 # fuzzbuzz 2016-07-25 11:08
There's not a progressive bone in the war criminal's body.
 
 
-8 # Shades of gray matter 2016-07-25 10:26
HRC knows that DWS knows where the skeletons are barely buried, bought her silence.
A discussion that leaves out Racial Divide is absurd. White working class headed for Nixon, Reagan LONG, LONG, LONG before trade deals. Now it's: "The Elites are giving away our white privileges to niggers, beaners, even ragheads!" Good riddance.
 
 
0 # Bryan 2016-07-27 16:38
'' White working class headed for Nixon, Reagan LONG, LONG, LONG before trade deals.'''..says shades

Lord you are ignorant!---the US trade deals started in the sixties with GATT.

Get an education.
 
 
+20 # Blackjack 2016-07-25 10:30
Ishmael, where are you coming from? HRC is no progressive; never has been. On social issues, she has progressive tendencies, but on war, Wall St. and the environment she is anything but. Let's stop calling her and Kaine Progressives. They are NOT!
 
 
+16 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 10:37
Lines are backed up the convention center escalators for a closed (to non-delegates) briefing by Bernie Sanders to his VT delegation.

MSDNC is reporting DWS' getting booed off stage this morning as 'Broad Street Bullies'.
 
 
-22 # lights 2016-07-25 10:59
THIS IS A (DEVIOUS) REPUBLICAN FORUM!!!!!

TALKING POINTS ALL THE SAME!!!!

THIS IS A REPUBLICAN FORUM!!!!!
 
 
+18 # grandlakeguy 2016-07-25 11:15
Then go away and leave us alone lights!
 
 
+14 # fuzzbuzz 2016-07-25 11:24
Still defending the war criminal after the DNC and DWS email scandal?

Troll much?
 
 
-10 # lights 2016-07-25 16:08
what games you play, fuzzbuzz....

I'm beginning to like this name, Troll.
 
 
+5 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 18:43
You should; you have worked hard for it (although seldom rationally).
 
 
+6 # Billy Bob 2016-07-25 21:44
[quote name=I'm beginning to like this name, Troll.

It's good to see someone with pride in their work. The Clintons have sent as many jobs overseas as possible, so it's good to see the pride you have in one of the jobs remaining (TROLLING for the Clintons).

Then again, who said you were American? Maybe the Russians are involved because it's their citizens who keep getting hired for all the troll-work.
 
 
+18 # jimmyjames 2016-07-25 11:46
Quoting lights:
THIS IS A (DEVIOUS) REPUBLICAN FORUM!!!!!

TALKING POINTS ALL THE SAME!!!!

THIS IS A REPUBLICAN FORUM!!!!!


I think you are crazy as a loon, lights. If you cannot see the progressives commenting on this forum and know that we are NOT Republicans, then you better get help before it is too late.
 
 
-12 # lights 2016-07-25 16:10
You don't have to BE Republican to think, talk and ACT like a Republican! And so many of you DO. And I know you know. I am not crazy as a loon. At least not on this beloved forum.
 
 
+4 # economagic 2016-07-25 20:48
And you do not have to BE progressive to pretend to be so.
 
 
+3 # Patriot 2016-07-25 23:56
Lights, that's what we've been telling you about Clinton, who claims to be a Dem, but actually is, and works for, the Repugs.
 
 
+1 # CL38 2016-07-27 04:08
Advised this a few weeks ago (do some therapy) she's in major denial.
 
 
+1 # CL38 2016-07-27 04:06
so go somewhere else! find like-minded people. no one is holding you here. find a more compatible site.
 
 
+16 # delMonster 2016-07-25 11:08
Mr. Reich,
I agree with your assessment. Mrs. Clinton doe not get it. She is so enamored with herself, so convinced of her appeal to women, so aligned with "papal/Clintoni an" infallibility, so arrogant in her belief that she is a popular candidate that she continues to think she is the nominee despite the fact that she has yet to be voted upon. She does not realize or, that is, refuses to believe that she is so widely disliked. Any other candidate, faced with the revelation of dirty tricks used to get her nominated and the comeuppance delivered by the FBI director would have resigned and let the convention become truly open. Instead we'll get a televised
show of the white smoke rising above the center and then a majestic entry fully clad in the robe of office.
Her largest lead is among women who support her simply because she is a woman which has no relevance to the job of president. There is no honor in voting for her because she is a woman. Wasn't that the whole point of the feminist movement - that woman are more than biology?
 
 
-37 # lights 2016-07-25 11:11
WOMEN SUPPORT HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON BECAUSE WE WANT CHANGE!

Hillary Rodham Clinton is the most qualified candidate we have EVER had!

THIS IS A DEVIOUS REPUBLICAN FORUM!!!
 
 
+27 # fuzzbuzz 2016-07-25 11:25
No, women do NOT support a lying cheating criminal.
 
 
+28 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 11:56
Certainly not any woman with ethics or morals. As a feminist I'm absolutely ashamed of both these women.

This should have been a proud moment but it is not.

I'm supposed to show this to my daughter? -- Oh look, honey, maybe someday YOU can grow up and run for president -- and lie and cheat and steal.

Great role models for girls and women? Absoluteltely NO.
 
 
-15 # lights 2016-07-25 16:16
Shame. Shame doesn't feel good. It brings us down to an unhappy level. And trust me. There is a vortex of feminists out there, out here, digging this process. Feminists see things differently. It's deliciously grand to have a vision of the big picture.

Clinton/Kaine 2016
 
 
+9 # DogSoldier 2016-07-25 16:45
I don't know what the hell a 'vortez' is, but it sure looks to me like you are the sexist.
 
 
-10 # lights 2016-07-25 18:59
Correction. "X" Vortex. a sucking sound... an uncontrollable power rapidly departing from the status quo, disappearing into a brand NEW world!
 
 
+2 # Ken Halt 2016-07-25 19:00
lights has trouble with basic English and is challenged by words that have more than one syllable.
 
 
+1 # CL38 2016-07-27 04:26
Blights, MILLIONS of feminists do not support Clinton. This article best expresses my views about Hillary and feminism.

As a woman and a longtime feminist, I cringe every time I hear these misguided and far from progressive statements. The truth is that the time for a female president has always been. And I, too, had once supported and defended the idea of Hillary Clinton being my next President. However, with more careful research, applying all that I know about Feminism and woman’s issues, what I have learned about Hillary, as well as what I know about the Clintons, I have come to realize that a Hillary Clinton presidency will do far more to harm the many cross sections of American women, than it will to advance the cause of American women as a whole. Aside from any self-interest, as a woman who cares about other women, this is something I just can’t support.

I became a student of feminism back when feminism was still considered a bad word even amongst Democrats. “You will never get married!” I would be warned by friends, mainly comprised of college-educate d registered Democrats. But a lot has changed since then. Although the patriarchy is still alive and well, I now see young female millennials wearing “feminist” merch, sexy male celebrities promoting feminism, and a presidential candidate who keeps reminding me that she is a woman. On one hand, the amount of support Hillary Clinton has been able to foster may be indicative of how much progress women have made.
 
 
-12 # lights 2016-07-25 16:13
Hey, fuzzbuzz.

I'm so glad you don't support lying cheating criminals. I don't either.
 
 
+18 # Emmanuel Goldstein 2016-07-25 11:46
In what way is HRC qualified for President at all? Virtually every foreign policy and military invasion she's promoted (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Honduras, etc.) has been a FAILURE!
 
 
+11 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 11:58
She renamed a couple of post offices. I hear that went well.
 
 
+13 # djnova50 2016-07-25 13:46
Didn't she help rename a public library? Maybe, I am thinking of somebody else.
 
 
-9 # lights 2016-07-25 19:01
You shouldn't point the finger at rocback unless you want to get it back, lib. geez.
 
 
+11 # futhark 2016-07-25 13:07
This devious Republican is probably going to vote for the Green Party nominee for the third consecutive presidential election.
 
 
+2 # CL38 2016-07-27 04:35
part 2 to blights:

On the other hand, when feminism becomes a brand, it becomes possible for celebrities, politicians, and the like, to increase their own marketability by adapting the label of “feminist.” This label can then be used to cover over a multitude of abuses against women. A woman of privilege, who can gain access to the hundreds of millions of dollars it will cost to win the 2016 presidential election, can exploit this label while assuming her own role in the patriarchy.

How is supporting Hillary Clinton not a covert promotion of the oppressive patriarchal system that is already in place? Why is it sexist to stand up on behalf of all the many cross sections of women, domestic and abroad, who the Hillary camp has so conveniently and easily deleted from their own definition of women? And who are they to suggest that the many cross sections of Americans, who have been harmed and will continue to be harmed by another Clinton presidency, should suck it up, bite their lip, and not speak against Hillary Clinton just because she is a woman?

Promoting the cause of the small sliver of very privileged women that the Clintons represent is not a feminist stance. **Rather, it is an example of how a certain woman of privilege can assume her own role in the patriarchy, while simultaneously implementing a strategy aimed at manipulating many of her own supporters to vote against their own best interest. Again, this is strategy used by republicans, not progressives.
 
 
+1 # CL38 2016-07-27 04:38
Part 3:

But if the Clinton camp wants to talk about sexism, I think we should step the conversation up a notch. Let’s discuss the “Bernie Bro” media myth and nontroversy. Despite the media’s insistence that Bernie supporters are comprised of mainly white male “bros” who are supporting him on the basis of their sexism against Hillary, Bernie Sanders continues to be widely popular among woman and minority voters. So why does the Hillary camp keep telling us that we don’t exist? Is it not sexist to render invisible, the contributions of so many American women, to the political revolution that we so desperately need? And what of the infantilization of Hillary Clinton as a female candidate? Is a woman presidential candidate so delicate that she has to play the victim, and the so-called liberal media has to rush to her defense, each time she is held accountable for her own actions? Would the media accuse her critics of being meanie bullies if she were a man?
 
 
+1 # CL38 2016-07-27 04:41
PART 4 (sorry for the length of this, I think it's important to rebut the Hillary camp re these points:)

Hillary is an adult and a leader who is accountable to the people she has hurt, and to the people who she stands to continue to hurt. Thus, she is not a victim each time progressive accountability comes knocking on her door. I, as an adult woman, find the infantilization of Hillary Clinton as a presidential candidate, rather insulting to women. It is also inadvertently sexist against women. Ultimately, we do a lot more to advance the cause of women when we vote based on policy rather than gender. As a woman and a feminist, I would have loved to support a female candidate for the upcoming Democratic primaries. However, I can’t support a woman based on the fact that she is a woman alone. But I can support a man if his plans are set to help advance the cause of woman. And by women, I mean all women - not just the woman of a very small and very privileged class. Bernie Sanders offers true hope for the various cross sections of American women, and for all Americans. Let’s vote based on hope, not fear! Let’s continue the fight against the establishment!

A Feminist Case against Hillary Clinton: Why a Hillary Presidency won’t Really Help Women

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/5/1480344/-A-Feminist-Case-against-Hillary-Clinton-Why-a-Hillary-Presidency-won-t-Really-Help-Women
 
 
+12 # RMDC 2016-07-25 11:12
The Clinton political machine is a front for big banks. If the Clintons did not do this dirty work, the banks would have plenty of others who would. Obama was happy to do the work for the banks. By banks I really mean the military-indust rial-banking-is raeli complex.

The Clintons are just functionaries. They do what they are told. They have been able to put together a political machine what is very effective. They essentially took over the Democrat party in the 1990s when it was in disarray after the Reagan revolution. They turned it into the elite servant staff that is is today.

This is the essence of an establishment party and functionary. Clinton will say whatever is needed to get people to vote for her.

Hillary will be president. She has the political machine that Trump cannot beat. She will be very unpopular and Trump will beat her up pretty badly. The congressional republicans will impeach her during her first term. The senate won't convict her. A damaged and weak Hillary is good for congressional republicans. She will be bullied and will do their bidding, just as Bill did in the 90s.
 
 
-7 # Robbee 2016-07-25 11:14
if there is a problem with reich's take it is with issues - bernie is always about issues! - throughout their campaigns rump and hill both shamelessly ripped-off bernie's issues and ideals!

as both re-define campaigns during their party's conventions - note that both sound more-and-more like bernie! - not less-and-less

i worry - but do not expect that - hill will retreat to "the middle" or stop riding bernie's coattails - rump's slavish absorption with bernie makes such retreat unnecessary and unhelpful!

if hill wins the dem nomination - i expect that she will give a commencement speech that defines a serious progressive agenda that will sound quite alot like bernie's!

- go bernie! and go dem!
 
 
+8 # Headzzzup 2016-07-25 11:16
Part 1: Sat - day after Rep. Convention. The Establishment MSM & Establishment pundits got it all wrong. They said the week was a disaster for the Republican Party and blamed Trump for his disorganized and badly planned Convention. What they got wrong is that this Convention was about the planned demolition of the Rep Party by Trump. The “any one but Trump movement” was totally defeated. Ted Cruz had a long (vetted) speech that laid out the Conservative, Religious right view of the Republican Party. He was booed off stage. He said don’t vote for this charlatan (“vote your conscience”} and was booed off stage. His wife had to be escorted through the crowd of delegates to prevent her from being injured. The pundits said this was a disastrous speech. Instead, it cemented Trump as the anti-Republican candidate.
 
 
+6 # Headzzzup 2016-07-25 11:17
Part 2: In his acceptance speech, he never said the Rep. Party would save them, he said in no uncertain terms, the Rep Party is your enemy - I am your savior - “I AM YOUR VOICE”. He demolished the Republican Party - it became the populace party for the working man - the Trump Party. He doesn’t give a hoot about the other Republicans on the ballot - they are all a part of the Rep Party that he is running against. He had a security guy give a long dissertation on the New American Century - the take over the world neocon stance. The delegates responded - ho hum - let’s get on to the next speaker - no interest in Hillary’s regime change agenda. Shows Trump will win this delegate audience with his anti-regime change theme.
 
 
+9 # Headzzzup 2016-07-25 11:18
Part 3: The pundits had a difficult time determining what to say when the CNN instant poll following the convention reported 75% of those watching had a favorable rating of Trump and 57% a very favorable rating. They continue to not get what Trump is about.
 
 
+7 # Headzzzup 2016-07-25 11:20
Part 4: Watch Trump drop all the Rep trappings in the next month and move consistently to the left of Hillary. Against the TPP and all the trade agreements that benefit the corporate elite, not the common man (Bernie’s stance) - against the regime changes that are Hillary’s hawkish hallmark (Bernie’s stance) - instead of spending our money abroad, spend it at home, building our infrastructure (Bernie’s stance) - revise the broken, obsolete NATO alliance (similar to Obama’s stance). Have NATO countries carry the costs of our defending their countries. Stop Hillary’s aggressive war against Russia - risking a Nuclear War that would wipe out civilization as we know it.
 
 
+7 # Headzzzup 2016-07-25 11:21
Part 5: We no longer have 2 establishment parties vying for our votes - we have an Establishment Democratic Party headed by Hillary and a Populist, non-establishme nt Party headed by Trump. Going to be interesting watching this play out.
 
 
+10 # Headzzzup 2016-07-25 11:22
Part 6: Bernie’s revolution of the Democratic Party was defeated by the Establishment. Trumps revolution of the Republican Party succeeded. Trump is recreating himself as the new champion of the working class - opposed to the dark neocon side of our government. If it looks like he could make it to become President - he’ll most likely face the same fate as JFK when he had Bobby as his Attorney General take on the mission of breaking the CIA into a million pieces. Then JFK fired Alan Dulles as the head of the CIA (for lying to him about Cuba) and a few months later JFK was assassinated - Bobby was assassinated before he ever made it to the Presidency. But, Trump, being a negotiator, will be given an offer he can’t refuse and do most of the significant things the Ruling Elite require for him & his family to survive. In contrast, Hillary will lead the charge for the NeoCons and the Ruling Elite.
 
 
-11 # lights 2016-07-25 11:22
Right NOW there is an opportunity for ALL revolutions to come together and move forward in ways unimaginable! Bernie Sanders is in the middle of it right NOW at the Democratic convention! HE is a part of it at that convention and he HAS been heard, MR REICH!

Why would you FORSAKE Bernie Sanders unless YOU ARE a group of DECEITFUL REPUBLICANS or psychologically unbalanced people who cannot see the destruction you seek and wreak!
 
 
+7 # jimmyjames 2016-07-25 12:30
According your and rocback's logic, there are about 30 Republicans/Tru mp supporters on this forum today, and only two Democrats....ye p, that makes sense!
 
 
-13 # lights 2016-07-25 16:21
Well, that sounds about right. I know me and rocback make two Democrats. Barbara K makes 3 and.....OMG Mako! I love the strength and voice of that new black woman, forgive me for not spelling out your name - I wouldn't get it right, begins with a D...but don't want to provoke a grammar lesson from bright teachers, here.

currently watching the Democratic convention ...breathtaking ! Viscerally MOVING. MOVING. MOVING >>>

And you know what? I'm kind of diggin these energetic Bernie supporters!
 
 
-21 # Shades of gray matter 2016-07-25 11:39
Hillary polling extremely well with African Americans, Latinos. HATED by so many whites. And,"JUST because she is a woman"? Sarah Palin didn't get their votes, and she was a woman with amazing vision. White working class left for Nixon, Reagan LONG ago. RSN Commenters should start a Bullshevik Party.
 
 
+13 # futhark 2016-07-25 13:05
Yes, I can recall Ms. Palin's amazing vision. I recall her claiming she could see the Soviet Union from her house in Alaska in 2008, even though the Soviet Union had gone out of existence in 1991.
 
 
-13 # lights 2016-07-25 15:28
thank you...."JUST because she is a woman," Shades of gray matter - for most just because she is a woman.

May they rest in peace.
 
 
+9 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 15:48
Are you really wishing us to be dead, lights? Maybe you need to take a deep breath and reassess.

There is more bad news to come and you need to chill. Let's see how Sec. Clinton handles this. Adversity is an opportunity to show leadership. Show some faith in her.

If you are an honest person you know darn well DWS and HRC have treated Bernie's people terribly and now they're reaping what they sowed.

If you make people feel their voices aren't heard they'll find a way to shout louder. Hillary and her people better start listening.
 
 
-8 # lights 2016-07-25 19:04
Seems to be working fine for Bernie, lib.
 
 
+7 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 19:17
This is where Bernie and his movement part ways. He has his job to do. We have ours.
 
 
+2 # CL38 2016-07-27 04:55
Librarians measured words, "If you are an honest person you know darn well DWS & HRC have treated Bernie's people terribly an now they're reaping what they sowed."

Your attempt to flip her off by pointing to Sanders to make false allegations you can't back up with proof, is your way of not listening. Do you often not listen to those who try to help you find perspective?
 
 
+8 # DogSoldier 2016-07-25 16:38
Quoting lights:
thank you...."JUST because she is a woman," Shades of gray matter - for most just because she is a woman.

May they rest in peace.


Horseshit! Most of us are voting for a different woman, Jill Stein.
 
 
-9 # lights 2016-07-25 19:05
You are NOT voting for her because she is a woman. You are voting for her to get revenge! In fact, one could say - typical - you are USING her because she is a woman! For certain there is no nobility attached to your vote as you would like people to believe.

YOU DO NOT CARE about the people of the United States, especially the vulnerable who a Trump Presidency would bury! YOU DO NOT CARE. At the very least. You want to use this time, this election to build up the Green Party at the RISK of so many vulnerable people in this country and to STOP the huge gains made by so many minorities who have RIGHTS in this country.
 
 
+9 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 20:27
You are right about one thing, lights. We "are NOT voting for her because she is a woman". We will likely be voting for her because of her values, priorities and morality.

HRC is at least as much of a risk to the 99% as Trump is.
 
 
+7 # economagic 2016-07-25 20:52
Please stop pretending to psychoanalize or read the minds of the people you address. That is not a mark of maturity, or even of cleverness, but of gross lack of awareness and understanding of anything that matters.
 
 
+15 # Emmanuel Goldstein 2016-07-25 11:41
What you say, Bob, is absolutely correct. So why have you lately been championing Hillary's campaign??
 
 
-11 # lights 2016-07-25 16:31
happy to hear that Bob.
 
 
+13 # glyde 2016-07-25 11:59
[quote name="Robbee"]
"if hill wins the dem nomination - i expect that she will give a commencement speech that defines a serious progressive agenda that will sound quite alot like bernie's!"

Trouble is that the speech is not legally binding, nor is the platform. Again, saying one thing and doing the opposite.
 
 
+19 # jimmyjames 2016-07-25 12:04
Donna brazille was named the DNC's temporary chair for the convention. Anyone who has watched Donna's comments on CNN knows full well she has been pulling for Hillary since the beginning. Just another Hillary cheerleader to replace the crooked Debbie Wassermann Schultz. The DNC has still yet to learn it's lesson.
 
 
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-12 # lights 2016-07-25 16:34
Imagine Brazille was probably talking like all of us....

HERE'S AN IDEA RSN. Raise a LOT of money by doing a "BOOK" documenting the history of this 2016 election political dialogue on RSN....no deletions.

It is my contribution to RSN publishing... if you do it. I want a cut. This is your notice. :-)

check with an attorney first. Rocback would probably help. Money for ALL.
 
 
+10 # jimmyjames 2016-07-25 12:05
The DNC should look at the polls and vote accordingly:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html#!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
 
 
+7 # turtleislander 2016-07-25 12:57
Of course they don't get it. If they think its ok to kill thousands of innocent people in pursuit of dubious foreign policy objectives they certainly don't care about our American feet on the ground at home either.
This is possibly the most clueless bunch of elitists since Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette and their cohort.
 
 
+6 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 15:24
The pundits today are mainly saying things will be great and tomorrow, having heard Sanders message of unity, Bernie's people will be ready to .. say it with me now .. MOVE ON. A couple have said the convention IS IN BERNIE'S HANDS, one calling him a possible savior, the other more snide. Isn't that funny? Who has all the power right at this moment?

Others say, Peabodys glinting in their eyes, that Sanders has lost control of his people.

(tee hee)

None so blind as those who blah blah
 
 
+3 # economagic 2016-07-25 20:53
Oh, you book people do have a way with words!
 
 
0 # DogSoldier 2016-07-25 16:36
Which is why we need to bring back the guillotine, and set it up on the Capital steps.
 
 
+4 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 16:48
Maybe one of those blowup guillotines. Just to make the point.

People should go to jail not die. Dying is too quick.
 
 
+12 # futhark 2016-07-25 12:59
John Kennedy's book "Profiles in Courage" (1957) dealt with politicians who sacrificed their careers due to advocacy of higher principles. Ms. Clinton can still qualify as a principled person by withdrawing her bid for the nomination and endorsing Senator Sanders.
 
 
+8 # jimmyjames 2016-07-25 13:14
I like the way you think, futhark! Wouldn't that be icing on the cake!
 
 
+6 # Anonymot 2016-07-25 14:52
If you hold your breath until that happens I'll send you a funereal wreath. The Clintons replaced principles with greed, sex, a search for power, ego, same things in reverse order, same things in random order. That's all they know. NW Arkansas pig country minds.
 
 
-10 # lights 2016-07-25 16:42
Anonymot says (among other things)

"NW Arkansas pig country minds." Anonymot

REPUBLICAN - TRUMP - MENTALITY.
 
 
+7 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 15:32
If Secretary Clinton would step aside I'd take back every mean thing I ever said about her.

This is exactly what she should do.

She is a damaged candidate. She faces an unthinkable foe. She has a wonderful substitute all ready to go.

Hillary Clinton should step aside. Just like the noble Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
 
 
+4 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 20:35
HRC could still make a principled act, conceivably. To be "a principled person", would take a little more effort...
 
 
-12 # lights 2016-07-25 14:41
You think about me LIB, tonight when you watch the convention. I have obviously thought of you. And I will be thinking about all of you.
 
 
+6 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 15:36
And I'll think about you, thinking about me thinking about you. It'll be a big think-a-thon.

What a good, principled, honest, loyal man Bernie is, wouldn't you agree?

Hey let me ask you something. Do you think Hillary should have started 'unify later' a little earlier? I do. Maybe we can agree on that.

But sshhh, says the librarian, let's listen to the speeches.
 
 
-10 # lights 2016-07-25 19:10
Hey if you really thought Bernie was a good, principled, honest, loyal man with the BIG picture....you would follow his LEAD! He's making a LOT of progress but I don't think I've seen even ONE comment about it..... I think we know why.
 
 
+2 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 19:19
See my comment above. oops, right?
 
 
-6 # lights 2016-07-25 21:32
I was responding to your comment above, lib. Now let's see you make a list of his ACCOMPLISHMENTS at the convention and the weeks previous working with the DNC!!
 
 
+1 # CL38 2016-07-27 04:59
never miss a trick to manipulate, huh blights?
 
 
+4 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 15:40
On CNN, Donna Brazile says hackers may have had access to DNC computers for more than a year.

She explicitly apologized to Bernie supporters for the actions of the DNC. Twice.

That's too bad Wasserman Schultz won't be giving a speech today. I'll bet she was going to apologize to us herself. boo :-(

Donna beat her to it. Maybe you can apologize to us for the Clinton campaign in a few months, Debbie.

I have NEVER seen Brazile look frazzled before. She is always so put together and gracious. But right now she is stuttering and not wearing makeup -- on television. (Males: that's a big thing :-)
 
 
+9 # DogSoldier 2016-07-25 16:34
I don't believe that Russian connection even a little bit. It's Clinton propaganda.
 
 
+5 # DogSoldier 2016-07-25 18:06
Putin gets blamed for everything.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/07/clinton-asserts-putin-influence-on-us-elections-after-taking-russian-bribes.html
 
 
+7 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 20:39
I don't believe it either. But like any other entity that exposes the corruption in our government, or political parties, I would be grateful to them if they had.
 
 
+9 # DogSoldier 2016-07-25 16:31
Does $hillary get it? Hell, no, and neither do you Reich. The revolution was never about Bernie, he just happened to be at the right place and time. Now that he is a shill for Clinton he will be castigated and booed like he was today at the DNC convention. I just got back from spending the day protesting on Broad St. There are thousands of people who have absolutely no intention of following Bernie to the altar of the Clinton's and making a Faustian bargain, like Bernie intends to do. The Green Party should get ready for a host of new converts, that's where most of the people I talked to today are going. Never $hillary, never Trump.
 
 
-9 # lights 2016-07-25 16:46
"Bernie Sanders addressed delegates ahead of the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia Monday and his wife Jane Sanders could be heard telling him something that was picked up by her mic, that she didn't appear to know was on. This after he was booed for saying "We have got to elect Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine."


http://www.aol.com/article/2016/07/25/bernie-sanders-wife-caught-sharing-cryptic-message-on-hot-mic/21438707/
 
 
+7 # lfeuille 2016-07-25 20:38
No surprise. Bernie's people are not following him in Hillary shilling. It's always been the message more than the messenger and we don't accept this message.
 
 
0 # gwynflynn 2016-07-25 16:53
What no one seems to mention is how terrified those of us who do not live in the United States are of a Trump presidency. To have what is still the most powerful nation in the world led by a narcissistic sociopath is full of dire implications for the whole world. Bernie Sanders represents what a lot of Canadians (not all, we have our own right wing) already believe or have instituted (i.e. universal health coverage, registration of all citizens over the age of 18 complied by door to door enumerators), a functioning public education system, gun control, and bank regulation.) We don't confuse a national icon (the Queen or the Governor General) with political leadership, and we have a multi party system. Liberals (currently in power), Conservatives (recently turfed out), New Democrats (social democrats), Greens, Bloque Québécois.
We don't want to see all that go up in smoke when some idiot presses the button for a nuclear war.
 
 
+11 # librarian1984 2016-07-25 17:27
We're afraid of him too, but many of us believe Clinton is more of a warmonger than Trump. We believe that WE will suffer more under Trump, but the WORLD will suffer more if Clinton is president. The neoliberals she heads have binders full of plans for remaking the geopolitical map, despite the disasters they've already brought to us all, when US strategy should be much simpler: QUIT KILLING PEOPLE.

American empire is a disastrous goal and should be explicitly denounced by the next Democratic nominee.

The Democrats need to nominate Bernie Sanders so we don't risk a Trump presidency. Clinton's numbers are already dropping. She will lose to Trump. Clinton is the riskier candidate.

Progressives are trying to correct the theft of this nomination process, and if you look back at what we've been saying for the past year you'll see we've been right.

Listen to us. Clinton will lose to Trump. She should step aside.
 
 
-8 # lights 2016-07-25 19:13
TRUMP IS NOT GOING TO WIN so you won't get to have any more personal WARS lib.
 
 
+4 # economagic 2016-07-25 20:55
Any other day you would be quoting the polls.
 
 
+3 # guomashi 2016-07-25 22:29
Quoting lights:
TRUMP IS NOT GOING TO WIN


Seems to me I've heard that song before.....
 
 
+6 # lfeuille 2016-07-25 20:35
You should listen more closely to Hillary. She is much more of a war monger than Trump and she has the support within the gov't to carryout she schemes whereas he does not.
 
 
+5 # AshamedAmerican 2016-07-25 20:46
We do not want that either, for both selfish and unselfish reasons. It is predictable that HRC would follow Obama's increased pressure on Russia, and pivot on China. That appears to be the greatest threat of nuclear war. There appears to be much less reason to think Trump has such ambitions.
 
 
+5 # Ralph 2016-07-25 17:30
Reich and Moore. Couple of pseudo-Sanders supporters who are now pimping Clinton LOTE. Nothing you write is worthy of consideration. Same goes for Moore.
 
 
-7 # lights 2016-07-25 19:14
Does that mean you are accusing Bernie Sanders of pimping, Ralph?
 
 
+5 # economagic 2016-07-25 20:56
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+6 # lfeuille 2016-07-25 20:32
No, Mr. Reich, she doesn't get it and she is not likely to. It is obvious to the casual observer, but she is so stuck in the '90's she just can't see it. And even if she did she wouldn't know how to deal with it.
 
 
+5 # Polisage 2016-07-25 20:55
Anybody who watched the Republican Convention and the first night of the Demo convention senses a palpable, controlled anger. With the e-mail scandal of DWS, Bernie supporters and voters feel cheated. The country is slipping into a crisis of legitimacy reminiscent of Watergate. I gave money to Bernie while DWS schemed to prevent his being nominated. This is a clear violation of my rights as a citizen. Actblue and DWS, I expect a refund check.
 
 
+7 # economagic 2016-07-25 21:05
Thank goodness, I finally made it to the bottom, though without learning much of anything except that I am not the only person thinking that the real question is whether Robert Reich gets it.

WE know that Hillary gets it (it's all about maintaining the status quo, or maybe a teeny step forward along with two steps back), and that she doesn't get it (with apologies to jpmarat and to Jean Paul Marat, and to Peter Weiss: "We want our rights, and we don't care how. We want our revolution -- NOW!").

The French waited a long time to see real gains. Remember, Victor Hugo, the original "bleeding heart liberal," attained fame more than a half century after the storming of the Bastille, and most of France was at that time STILL in want of their revolution. We don't have that long -- AGW, nukes, and a dozen or more other systems at the breaking point, regardless of what Mr. Krugman thinks.
 
 
+1 # Activista 2016-07-26 00:13
Great and honest analysis by Robert Reich - Bernie with his positive change can do more WITHIN democratic party then as outsider (Green party etc.) that got like 0.5% in the last presidential election (I vote for Jill Stein in WA when it was clear that Obama will be the next president.
Be pragmatic - save democracy from fuhrer Trump.
 
 
+2 # ahollman 2016-07-26 00:21
I'm a Sanders supporter who expects to hold my nose and vote for Clinton.

However, I have an idea. I don't know whether it's practical or where to go with. Anyone is free to take this and run with it.

Despite the fact that the era of "Debby does Democracy" is now over, Clinton -will- secure the 2016 Democratic nomination. There are 2 issues: 1) whether she can beat Trump in 2016, 2) whether she can get elected (ugh!) to a 2nd term.

Proposal: Sanders supporters go to Clinton with the following proposal: We will fully support you this (2016) election. In exchange, you agree not to run for re-election in 2020.

This would greatly increase the likelihood that Clinton will beat Trump in 2016. It opens the door for a more progressive Democratic candidate in 2020. It provides advance notice for the 2020 election - to progressives that such a candidacy is a possibility, and to progressive candidates to decide whether to run.
 
 
+3 # HDSMTS 2016-07-26 08:14
Sadly, the appointment of Wasserman Schultz to her campaign leadership suggests she doesn't get it.
 
 
-2 # Activista 2016-07-26 12:01
Quoting HDSMTS:
Sadly, the appointment of Wasserman Schultz to her campaign leadership suggests she doesn't get it.

where did you get this "information" - this is NOT true.
 
 
+1 # economagic 2016-07-26 18:37
As has been asked of several others posting in these forums the past couple of days, do you even read the articles you are commenting upon? DWS was forced to "resign" on Sunday, and it was all over the internet and the MSM. You are posting mid-day on Tuesday.
 
 
+1 # anhinga 2016-07-26 08:48
"Get it"? No, she does not, she doesn't want to, her corporate backers have paid her handsomely not to, and she is actually flaunting in our faces that fact. She not only HIRED the woman who was just forced to resign for her corruption, she baldly stated that said woman would "continue to be her surrogate"--lea ving no wiggle room at all for her not having been all along. And yet publicly rewarded her, and dared the American people to do anything about it.
 
 
+2 # RSN rocks 2016-07-26 13:00
No, Mr. Reich, she does not get it. And she will lose to Trump as a result. The only way she has a chance without directly cutting ties to Wall Street, Big Banks, or Big Pharma is to ditch vanilla middle Kaine as her VP and name Sanders (or Warren) as her VP. Doing otherwise will lead to her getting crushed by the anti-Establishm ent tsunami especially given her lack of trustworthiness . I realize Hilary has done noble work for women and children during her career, and that she could be our country's first woman president. But making history is not enough for all those people who are hurting out there, and there is just too much other baggage. Moving to the center makes her more Establishment, and this will be her political demise. Hilary is her own worst enemy. How else could she lose to a jerk like Trump? I've already given up. Looking forward to Bernie running in 2020.....
 
 
+1 # Depressionborn 2016-07-26 14:39
Reich says:
"She needs to move instead toward the anti-establishm ent". She IS the establishment. So probably is Trump? Sorry guys.
 
 
0 # Bryan 2016-07-27 17:02
Hillary doesn't care about this woman.


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0 # shraeve 2016-07-29 08:59
“I’ am your voice” is authoritarian? How so? That does not seem any different than what Sanders and Clinton have been saying. That is what most politicians say.

Reich is part of the establishment. That is why he is terrified of Trump.
 

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