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Keillor writes: "It is the most famous ducktail in America today, the hairdo of wayward youth of a bygone era, and it's astonishing to imagine it under the spotlight in Cleveland, being cheered by Republican dignitaries."

Donald Trump describes how he was ready to punch a person who rushed the stage during an election rally. (photo: Nati Harnik/AP)
Donald Trump describes how he was ready to punch a person who rushed the stage during an election rally. (photo: Nati Harnik/AP)


The Punk Who Would Be President

By Garrison Keillor, Madison.com

18 June 16

 

t is the most famous ducktail in America today, the hairdo of wayward youth of a bygone era, and it's astonishing to imagine it under the spotlight in Cleveland, being cheered by Republican dignitaries. The class hood, the bully and braggart, the guy revving his pink Chevy to make the pipes rumble, presiding over the student council. This is the C-minus guy who sat behind you in history and poked you with his pencil and smirked when you asked him to stop. That smirk is now on every front page in America. It is not what anybody — left, right or center — looks for in a president. There's no philosophy here, just an attitude.

He is a little old for a ducktail. By the age of 70, most ducks have moved on, but not Donald. He is apparently still fond of the sidewalls and the duck's ass in back and he is proud as can be of his great feat, the first punk candidate to get this close to the White House. He says that the country is run by a bunch of clowns and that he is going to make things great again and beat up on the outsiders who are coming into our neighborhood. His followers don't necessarily believe that — what they love about him is what kids loved about Johnny Rotten and Sid Vicious, the fact that he horrifies the powers that be and when you are pro-duck you are giving the finger to Congress, the press, clergy, lawyers, teachers, cake-eaters, big muckety-mucks, VIPs, all those people who think they're better than you — you have the power to scare the pants off them, and that's what this candidate does better than anybody else.

After the worst mass shooting in American history on Sunday, 50 persons dead in Orlando, the bodies still being carted from the building, the faces of horror-stricken cops and EMTs on TV, the gentleman issued a statement on Twitter thanking his followers for their congratulations, that the tragedy showed that he had been "right" in calling for America to get "tough."

Anyone else would have expressed sorrow. The gentleman expressed what was in his heart, which was personal pride.

We had a dozen or so ducktails in my high school class and they were all about looks. The hooded eyes, the sculpted swoop of the hair, the curled lip. They emulated Elvis but only the look, not the talent. Their sole ambition was to make an impression, to slouch gracefully and exhale in an artful manner. In the natural course of things, they struggled after graduation, some tried law enforcement for the prestige of it, others became barflies. If they were drafted, the Army got them shaped up in a month or two. Eventually, they all calmed down, got hitched up to a mortgage, worried about their blood pressure, lost the chippiness, let their hair down. But if your dad was rich and if he was born before you were, then the ducktail could inherit enough wealth to be practically impervious to public opinion. This has happened in New York City. A man who could never be elected city comptroller is running for president.

The dreamers in the Republican Party imagine that success will steady him and he will accept wise counsel and come into the gravitational field of reality but it isn't happening. The Orlando tweets show it: The man does not have a heart. How, in a few weeks, should Mr. Ryan and Mr. McConnell teach him basic humanity? The bigot and braggart they see today is the same man that New Yorkers have been observing for 40 years. A man obsessed with marble walls and gold-plated doorknobs, who has the sensibility of a giant sea tortoise.

His response to the Orlando tragedy is one more clue that this election is different from any other. If Mitt Romney or John McCain had been elected president, you might be disappointed but you wouldn't fear for the fate of the Republic. This time, the Republican Party is nominating a man who resides in the dark depths. He is a thug and he doesn't bother to hide it. The only greatness he knows about is himself.

So the country is put to a historic test. If the man is not defeated, then we are not the country we imagine we are. All of the trillions spent on education was a waste. The churches should close up shop. The nation that elects this man president is not a civilized society. The gentleman is not airing out his fingernail polish, he is not showing off his wedding ring; he is making an obscene gesture. Ignore it at your peril.

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+142 # jpmarat 2016-06-18 09:22
He has already shown that we are not the People we had imagined ourselves to be. Add to his supporters those who BRAG that they will not cast the vote necessary to stop his fascism and you have an extremely disgusting, disheartening crew. What kind of person would brag directly into the faces of Mexicans, Muslims, women, the disabled, blacks, next targets, that you refuse to cast the vote to stop Trumpist fascism? Closet fascists?
 
 
-91 # sashapyle 2016-06-18 09:52
OK, OK, we get it. We have to vote for Hillary's fascism to prevent Donald's. Happy now?
 
 
-70 # Glen 2016-06-18 11:02
Yep, sashapyle. The lesser of two evils is still evil. There is nobody up for president that is even remotely dignified, honest, or well versed, enough, to be president. It matters not the history of Hillary or her experience. What does matter is her overall agenda, which is presented to us only in a different style than Trump's.
 
 
-30 # wrknight 2016-06-18 12:01
Yes, the lesser of two evils is indeed evil. But when weighing the evil between two candidates for president, one has to separate the "evilness" of the personalities from the "evilness" of the consequences of their being president. The former is just an attribute of the person's personality. The latter is what will happen to us if that person become president.

I concur with those who believe that Trump is the most overtly evil, but I fear that Hillary is capable of doing far more evil than Trump ever could. In all likelihood Trump, as president, would be hamstrung by an unwilling Congress (Republicans included) in anything he attempted whereas Hillary would have the support of every neocon in Congress.

So the decision has to be made, which is the lesser of two evils? An overtly evil personality who is opposed at every turn and can accomplish nothing, or a less outwardly evil person who can wreak havoc on the world.
 
 
+11 # denialawareness 2016-06-20 07:59
Quoting wrknight:

In all likelihood Trump, as president, would be hamstrung by an unwilling Congress (Republicans included) in anything he attempted whereas Hillary would have the support of every neocon in Congress.

So the decision has to be made, which is the lesser of two evils? An overtly evil personality who is opposed at every turn and can accomplish nothing, or a less outwardly evil person who can wreak havoc on the world.


Your assertion implies that you believe that Trump would bow to the "rules" and willingly allow himself to be limited by the checks and balances entrenched within our system of government. You also imply that members of Congress would stand up to him and prevent him from accomplishing whatever he wished to do. So far, very few have shown the courage to express opposition to Trump: Elizabeth Warren (whom Trump now loudly refers to as "Pocahontas" - as though that is some kind of insult); and Texas Congressman Filemon Vela whose letter to Trump is getting some publicity. (‘Mr. Trump, you’re a racist and you can take your border wall and shove it up your ass.’”). I haven't heard any reactions from Trump to that yet, but it is still early.

Trump might simply flip the bird to rules of order, as he has to every other rule of civilized society - at his will. This is why some of us truly feel that Trump is a greater threat than Clinton.
 
 
-6 # MsAnnaNOLA 2016-06-21 15:39
You have to actually listen to the words he says not the MSM or other people's interpretation of what he says. He does not say overtly racist things and he says he is not a racist. Yes I know about dog whistles, but who decides what is a dog whistle? This is a guy that works with and hires people of all backgrounds and gets along with them all and promotes them all.

It is disingenuous to say building a wall can only be one thing, racist. There is such a thing as the rule of law here. Our congress critters have saw fit to not sufficiently enforce the immigration laws while simultaneously bombing the crap out of other nations full of people who now want to commit acts of terror over here. So saying it is a good idea to have a wall and enforce immigration law so they don't come over here and attack us is just common sense in the context in which we live.

If you are Mexican and you want to easily bring your friends over you might not like it, but it is what it is at this point. Racist, I think not.
 
 
+2 # Prideofmontana 2016-06-21 19:29
Grow up people. Please read the following article posted in the Daily Kos for a more tempered perspective on Hillary.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/6/11/1537582/-The-most-thorough-profound-and-moving-defense-of-Hillary-Clinton-I-have-ever-seen?detail=email2&link_id=2&can_id=95307434efdfe2afa3b1f69da1f676f4&source=email-trump-nailed-229-years-ago-by-alexander-hamilton-2&email_referrer=trump-nailed-229-years-ago-by-alexander-hamilton-2&email_subject=trump-nailed-229-years-ago-by-alexander-hamilton
 
 
-59 # jazzman633 2016-06-18 13:00
Quoting Glen:
Yep, sashapyle. The lesser of two evils is still evil. There is nobody up for president that is even remotely dignified, honest, or well versed, enough, to be president. It matters not the history of Hillary or her experience. What does matter is her overall agenda, which is presented to us only in a different style than Trump's.


Yes, these is someone, Glen. His name is Gary Johnson, and it is testimony to the moral bankruptcy of the system and the tunnel vision of the electorate that it can imagine only two alternatives.

Along with being on the ballot in all 50 states, Johnson has climbed Mt. Everest, a fitting symbol of the difference in character and competence between him and the two reprobates that our corrupt system offers us.
 
 
+4 # Anarchist 23 2016-06-20 17:18
He was governor of NM for a term...no one remembers what he did except bring Heather Wilson into the government to boss the schools...she went on to be a representative I think. It didn't end well for progressives.
 
 
+24 # donaldmead 2016-06-18 14:45
Quoting Glen:
Yep, sashapyle. The lesser of two evils is still evil. There is nobody up for president that is even remotely dignified, honest, or well versed, enough, to be president. It matters not the history of Hillary or her experience. What does matter is her overall agenda, which is presented to us only in a different style than Trump's.


Senator Bernie Sanders or Dr. Jill Stein. Dr. Stein couldn't win, but she would be a moral choice, if the lesser of two evils does not interest you, as it does not interest me. So...there are moral choices.
 
 
+26 # vilstef 2016-06-18 23:22
Quoting donaldmead:

Senator Bernie Sanders or Dr. Jill Stein. Dr. Stein couldn't win, but she would be a moral choice, if the lesser of two evils does not interest you, as it does not interest me. So...there are moral choices.


If your moral choice helps elect the greater of two evils, the choice was not good.
 
 
-2 # MsAnnaNOLA 2016-06-21 15:41
Some of us live in Red States and don't really count anyway!
 
 
+2 # FIRSTNORN1 2016-06-19 14:25
Senator Bernie Sanders or Dr. Jill Stein. Dr. Stein couldn't win, but she would be a moral choice, if the lesser of two evils does not interest you, as it does not interest me. So...there are moral choices.

I agree with donaldmead that there are 'moral choices', but let's remember that our system is evil in itself (and must be fixed). If you do not live in one of about 12 "swing states", you are wasting your time to bother going to the voting booth. In NY, CA, TX or MS, your one vote could not possibly make any difference to the end result. Therefore, if you insist on *doing your civic duty* and you live in one of the *other 38 states* where the outcome is a 100% certainty, then at least make a moral choice and vote for Dr. Jill Stein, or the Third Party choice of your choosing.
 
 
+3 # LMS1993 2016-06-20 04:55
Quoting donaldmead:
Quoting Glen:
Yep, sashapyle. The lesser of two evils is still evil. There is nobody up for president that is even remotely dignified, honest, or well versed, enough, to be president. It matters not the history of Hillary or her experience. What does matter is her overall agenda, which is presented to us only in a different style than Trump's.


Senator Bernie Sanders or Dr. Jill Stein. Dr. Stein couldn't win, but she would be a moral choice, if the lesser of two evils does not interest you, as it does not interest me. So...there are moral choices.


Senator Sanders is not going to be on the general election ballot & has said he won't run third party and you most likely can't write him in because in most states write-ins are not allowed or if they are the candidate has to fill out paperwork himself to be on the ballot.
 
 
+6 # insanedieg0 2016-06-20 14:55
So your choice is cancer or a broken leg. Any other choice leads to cancer. I'd be happy to whine about my broken leg knowing I missed cancer. Yes of course I'm not happy to have a broken leg. We have to vote for the candidates we have, not the candidates we wish we had.
 
 
-5 # Ralph 2016-06-20 17:11
False analogy. The two major candidates can be compared to pancreatic cancer and brain cancer. Both are generally fatal. The candidate I wish for is Jill Stein and I will have no problem voting for her. The real cancers in this nation are people who continue to vote for corrupt and criminal politicians. This is exactly what has caused the slide over the last 40 years in this once decent nation.
 
 
-1 # SHK 2016-06-21 20:45
I beg to differ. The one person who can be taken seriously, who is in it for us and not for him or herself is, of course, Bernie Sanders. How ridiculous that the one grownup, unselfish and seriously interested in our welfare, the citizens of this country, and who would be kind and generous to our friends abroad and seriously stern with our unfriends abroad, is not even mentioned as a possibility by so many. He is the one I will vote for—writing him in if the thing that should happen—the perp walk of Ms. Clinton—doesn't . I saw something disturbing about the Green Party which I have no idea is true or a joke: Jill Stein's picture with the following printed beside her: I would welcome Senator Bernie Sanders to run as my Vice-President. That is so ridiculously insulting I have no words. He with his years of experience, she with NONE!! So. I will write him in. I will not even consider either of the other two candidates, both out of their minds in one way or another. We have what we need right in front of our noses. The young people get it. The "adults"? Not so much.
 
 
+25 # oakes721 2016-06-18 11:25
Drumpf's hateful rehearsals are plotted to absolutely guarantee the multimillionair e 'Goldwater Girl' a fork and knife among the well-Fed warmongers.
 
 
+43 # RMDC 2016-06-18 12:06
sas -- I guess you struck a nerve. Ever note how people who call Trump a fascist never define their term. That's because they are harking back to the facsism of the 1930s and 40s and they see a similarity in style.

But fascism in every country is unique. Contemporary US fascism has its own qualities. It is the ideology of fascism that counts, not the demogogic style. IF you really consider the ideology, then Hillary is the true fascist. She's in the same class as Obama, Bush, Reagan -- these are all friendly and smiling fascists. They talk nice but they have only one agenda -- the corporate control of government.

The opposite of fascism is democracy or socialism; that is, the government is controlled and owned by people. Lincoln said it at Gettysburg -- government of the people, by the people, and for the people.

Fascism emerged in the 19th century as a "reaction" to the rise of democracy and socialism or the rise of the masses. Fascists are reactionaries. They wanted to preserve a ruling elite and this would be in the corporate barons.

American fascists don't look demented like Hitler or Mussolini. They look like normal happy people like Reagan or Obama. But they are just fronts for the really vicious people like David Rockefeller or Henry Kissinger.

People should define what they mean by fascism before throwing the word around.

For me, Hillary will just be more of the same neo-con / neo-lib that has plagued the nation since Reagan. I want change.
 
 
+26 # sashapyle 2016-06-18 13:05
Thanks, I appreciate the thoughtful response. Not used to getting flamed by my RSN cronies. But fascism is control of the government by banks and corporations, and Hillary has made those wrong choices over and over again as to who she climbs in bed with. And we all know who pays for it, that's us. Her flavor of fascism is covert, not overt. Maybe all the people who gave me a thumbs down need to THINK first, hit the button later.
 
 
+14 # kundrol 2016-06-18 13:14
I agree and did not flame you!
 
 
-6 # Nominae 2016-06-19 02:12
Quoting sashapyle:
...Not used to getting flamed by my RSN cronies. Her [Hillary's] flavor of fascism is covert, not overt. Maybe all the people who gave me a thumbs down need to THINK first, hit the button later.

They absolutely *DO need to "THINK first", but in a knee-jerk Society based on Facebook-Style "like/dislike" there remains little time for the lemmings to perform *any SEVERELY *unaccustomed cogitating anyway.

So we see that we have at least 40 mindless "judges" on the Q ! ;-D (I'll collect a few of the red marks in your defense ! ;-D)

In addition, subtleties such as "tongue-in-chee k humor, sarcasm, and even light satire go *SOARING over the heads of such readers unless they are *preceded by a *WARNING SIGN: "Dear Moron - the following statement is SATIRE".

Yeah. Sad fact IS, that if one is addressing a readership that HAS to *be *ALERTED TO SATIRE, you are *ALREADY writing at a level *far "ABOVE THE HOUSE" as the professional comics describe it ! ;-D

Your *apparent mistake was to assume that they *WOULD GET IT *without having provided them the spoon-fed warning cluing them to the fact that it *WAS, to quote Foghorn Leghorn: "A *joke, Son, Ah Say, that's a *JOKE"! ;-D
_
 
 
-1 # rocback 2016-06-20 11:32
or maybe it's YOU who doesn't get it, son. Ah say..
 
 
+2 # reiverpacific 2016-06-21 09:33
Quoting Nominae:
Quoting sashapyle:
...Not used to getting flamed by my RSN cronies. Her [Hillary's] flavor of fascism is covert, not overt. Maybe all the people who gave me a thumbs down need to THINK first, hit the button later.

They absolutely *DO need to "THINK first", but in a knee-jerk Society based on Facebook-Style "like/dislike" there remains little time for the lemmings to perform *any SEVERELY *unaccustomed cogitating anyway.

So we see that we have at least 40 mindless "judges" on the Q ! ;-D (I'll collect a few of the red marks in your defense ! ;-D)

In addition, subtleties such as "tongue-in-cheek humor, sarcasm, and even light satire go *SOARING over the heads of such readers unless they are *preceded by a *WARNING SIGN: "Dear Moron - the following statement is SATIRE".

Yeah. Sad fact IS, that if one is addressing a readership that HAS to *be *ALERTED TO SATIRE, you are *ALREADY writing at a level *far "ABOVE THE HOUSE" as the professional comics describe it ! ;-D

Your *apparent mistake was to assume that they *WOULD GET IT *without having provided them the spoon-fed warning cluing them to the fact that it *WAS, to quote Foghorn Leghorn: "A *joke, Son, Ah Say, that's a *JOKE"! ;-D
_


Eh???
In simple, clear English please?
 
 
+1 # MsAnnaNOLA 2016-06-21 15:46
I think you are so right about the Fascism. I think the whole system is Fascist now. Unlimited money and gerrymandered districts mean that we have things that 75% of people want but we can't get them done because it is against some corporate interest or another.

The Pols are looking for their next money to win their next race so they can eventually cash out and get their big payday like Bill and Hillary. They care not what idiocy we the people end up paying for. We have military programs that don't work and we can't kill them anyway it is the definition of Fascism. So we continue to pay to build fighter jets that will help us lose WWIII if we were to ever use them.

Russia is going to kick our ass if we are stupid enough to start WWIII like Hillary wants.
 
 
+34 # kalpal 2016-06-18 14:49
If you find Kaiser Drumpf acceptable, then you are neither an American nor acceptable as a human being.
 
 
-9 # lfeuille 2016-06-18 19:04
The same could be said of HRC.
 
 
+5 # LMS1993 2016-06-20 04:52
Quoting lfeuille:
The same could be said of HRC.


No, the same could not even remotely be said of HRC.
 
 
-2 # SHK 2016-06-21 21:00
Quoting LMS1993:
Quoting lfeuille:
The same could be said of HRC.


No, the same could not even remotely be said of HRC.


Yes. It. Could. Open your eyes and ears and translate what you hear, look at what she does NOT do: She is not bound by any silly rules. She WILL use her own email system because she's above it all and she wants to. She is a spoiled brat. So she's a female. That matters when she is so obviously wrong for the part why? BERNIE IS AVAILABLE AND WE ARE MISSING THE BOAT. Actually, most people aren't even headed toward the marina. They are falling hook, line and sinker for a very dangerous person because that person happens to be female. Well, if the women of this country vote her in they will show the world that women ARE stupid and easily led. I am a female, but I will vote for the person who is neither a megalomaniac nor a total narcissist in a skirt. I'm voting for Bernie no matter what. Anyone who cares about this country not to mention the rest of the world should do the same. And you do realize as well that Trump is probably in this to make sure Hillary wins but after a taste seems to have really gotten into the role. He and Bill did a political tete-a-tete you do know before Trump threw his hat in the ring? I think the deal is he would be so impossible that Hillary would be a shoo in. Surprise! He LIKES it!!! Plan fail.
 
 
+8 # LMS1993 2016-06-20 04:57
Quoting sashapyle:
OK, OK, we get it. We have to vote for Hillary's fascism to prevent Donald's. Happy now?


HRC is not a fascist and if you think so you clearly have no understanding of the definition of fascism.
 
 
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-6 # mim 2016-06-18 22:27
Quoting jpmarat:
He has already shown that we are not the People we had imagined ourselves to be. Add to his supporters those who BRAG that they will not cast the vote necessary to stop his fascism and you have an extremely disgusting, disheartening crew. What kind of person would brag directly into the faces of Mexicans, Muslims, women, the disabled, blacks, next targets, that you refuse to cast the vote to stop Trumpist fascism? Closet fascists?


Closet Leninists, perhaps? They seem to be embracing the Leninist strategy of heightening the contradictions (a.k.a. accelerating or sharpening the contradictions) . IOW, the worse, the better.
 
 
+13 # tswhiskers 2016-06-19 09:45
Rather closet adolescents and bigots. It doesn't take much to see that much of the American electorate are very shallow, racist and that the idea of THINKING about ideas and peoples' character is foreign to them. It is assumed, I think, that when people vote, they do so thoughtfully, after reading and watching varied news sources, and making a decision on that info. This is BS. Most of us are emotionally and temperamentally adolescents. We vote Dem. or Rep. because Mom and Dad voted that way or because one candidate is better looking than the other. Most people on this blog think to some extent and seem to really care who wins an election. Please encourage your family and friends to watch and read political news too. Thanks.
 
 
-2 # mim 2016-06-19 11:52
jpmarat and I were not talking about right-wing Trump supporters. Read his comment again, carefully.

We were talking about self-described progressives who are willing to throw the election to Trump and BOAST of that willingness. Imagine such a person explaining that choice to an undocumented immigrant, or a Muslim, or a Mexican American, or a person of color, or even a poor person. Nach Trump, uns.

Closet Leninists.
 
 
+97 # Woratnac 2016-06-18 09:27
These comments insult sea turtles! Trump has zero in common with them. He might be compared to invasive algae.... See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/14/diver-saves-sea-turtle_n_5574705.html
 
 
+10 # KyleFreeman 2016-06-19 03:01
Quoting Woratnac:
These comments insult sea turtles! Trump has zero in common with them. He might be compared to invasive algae.... See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/14/diver-saves-sea-turtle_n_5574705.html

"Pond scum" might be a better way to name it.
 
 
+152 # Jim Rocket 2016-06-18 09:37
Mr. Ryan and Mr. McConnell not exactly the best people to be teaching basic humanity or anything else except political weasling and self-dealing.
 
 
+157 # wrknight 2016-06-18 09:39
" If the man is not defeated, then we are not the country we imagine we are."

That there is any support for this narcissistic braggart demonstrates that we are not the country we imagine we are.
 
 
+22 # dbrize 2016-06-18 12:05
Quoting wrknight:
" If the man is not defeated, then we are not the country we imagine we are."

That there is any support for this narcissistic braggart demonstrates that we are not the country we imagine we are.


That there is support for either one of them tells us we aren't what we imagine.
 
 
0 # SHK 2016-06-21 21:12
"That there is support for either one of them tells us we aren't what we imagine." You are absolutely correct. Anyone with any sense would have seen that Bernie Sanders is the grownup in the trio and he is being ignored.
 
 
+10 # RMDC 2016-06-18 12:07
wrk -- good point.
 
 
+36 # 666 2016-06-18 09:43
Stop telling us not to elect trump. Start telling us how the political and economic and media elite are going to take responsibility for this situation and how they are going to change and atone by taking this country in a more fair and just direction. No that's not HRC!
 
 
+22 # newell 2016-06-18 14:18
I will probably follow the advice of Bernie Sanders.
 
 
-1 # SHK 2016-06-21 21:13
I will probably VOTE for Bernie Sanders. I am not going to vote for either of the two "candidates". PERIOD.
 
 
+98 # mim 2016-06-18 09:45
The Community of Giant Sea Tortoises objects to its members being likened to Mr. Drumpf.
 
 
+45 # bbaldwin2001 2016-06-18 09:58
I never thought in a million years Trump would end up as the Republican Nominee. But he did, thanks to some strange persons who are just trying to get a Republican in the White House. Too bad, I believe by next month this man will be back in Trump Tower wondering what the heck he has done. Good Bye Donald Trump and don't count on another run in four years.... not a chance.
 
 
+34 # newell 2016-06-18 14:22
We don't want him to leave until he loses to Clinton in 5 months. I hope that the Republicans don't deny him the nomination. Trump will single-handedly put Congress back in Democratic control.
 
 
-115 # JohnBoanerges 2016-06-18 10:06
Garrison Keillor, the punk that would (did?) bed his cousin speaks? Who ought listen to you?
 
 
+91 # reiverpacific 2016-06-18 10:55
Quoting JohnBoanerges:
Garrison Keillor, the punk that would (did?) bed his cousin speaks? Who ought listen to you?


GK is an intelligent, articulate, humorous and progressive radio show host who berated Dimwits Bush for going to war on Iraq.
He's well worth listening to; much more than most of the professional talking heads that infest the owner-media!
 
 
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+37 # kalpal 2016-06-18 14:54
JohnBoanerges - Strange how Garrison speaks a truth and is therefore an evil person yet the Lord Of The Lies is the good guy.

Kaiser Drumpf is unworthy of the oxygen he wastes each day.
 
 
-51 # jpmarat 2016-06-18 10:38
Hey! A lot of pretty rough stuff gets said on these pages, but even here we should draw the line somewhere! We should not tolerate the anti cousin loving bigotry. Kissin' cousins are people too. Sick Willie may be perverse, but I bet even he supports cousins getting each other off. Cousins are safer than strangers, usually. Who better to begin your sexual experimentation with than multiple cousins who really care about you? "Extended" families that lay together stay together. Save $$ on Date Finder.
 
 
+61 # reiverpacific 2016-06-18 10:52
Quoting jpmarat:
Hey! A lot of pretty rough stuff gets said on these pages, but even here we should draw the line somewhere! We should not tolerate the anti cousin loving bigotry. Kissin' cousins are people too. Sick Willie may be perverse, but I bet even he supports cousins getting each other off. Cousins are safer than strangers, usually. Who better to begin your sexual experimentation with than multiple cousins who really care about you? "Extended" families that lay together stay together. Save $$ on Date Finder.


A lot of pretty incohesive and incomprehensibl e stuff get into these pages too; like your gibberish.
 
 
+4 # newell 2016-06-18 14:53
Wait a minute. I have to stand up for the guy with 20 thumbs down (maybe I can get more). Mr. jpmarat is definitely juvenile, maybe even delinquent--but at least he has a sense of humor. And besides, for all you open-minded commenters out there --there is nothing "evil" about cousins or even brother-sister having sex as long as no children are produced (especially ones having 3 ears). That's if there is no guilt. In fact, the more our species has sex without offspring, the better off we and the other animals on this planet--will be.
 
 
-8 # kalpal 2016-06-18 14:59
Quoting jpmarat:
Hey! A lot of pretty rough stuff gets said on these pages, but even here we should draw the line somewhere! We should not tolerate the anti cousin loving bigotry. Kissin' cousins are people too. Sick Willie may be perverse, but I bet even he supports cousins getting each other off. Cousins are safer than strangers, usually. Who better to begin your sexual experimentation with than multiple cousins who really care about you? "Extended" families that lay together stay together. Save $$ on Date Finder.


We have to assume that you bedded not only cousins but sisters, your mother, grandmother and aunts in order to write so substantively as you did about the topic.
 
 
-4 # JJS 2016-06-19 06:30
Quoting kalpal:

We have to assume that you bedded not only cousins but sisters, your mother, grandmother and aunts in order to write so substantively as you did about the topic.


Why do we (you) have to assume that?

Kissing cousins is a time honored tradition that can teach sexual expression and restraint. Learning sexual activity within the extended family is "relatively" safe, as was commented earlier. These are people who you are close to. Not all sexual relationships have to be consummated. With cultural taboos of incest and possible genetic deformities looming, kissing and manual pleasuring is a reasonable alternative to sexual intercourse. It is much safer, especially with young teens, than encounters with "outsiders".
 
 
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+62 # futhark 2016-06-18 10:49
As a substitute teacher in several high schools these past 4 years, I can tell you that punkism is as alive and well as it ever was in the past. In spite of all the recent campaigns against bullying, the self-inflation of adolescent ego by harassing and degrading other students continues virtually unabated. The last thing we need now as a chief executive is a role model for this kind of atrocious behavior. There needs to be more general recognition of Mr. Trump's failure to mature past the level of an emotionally disturbed high school sophomore.

That said, there is no way I am going to vote for someone whose first reaction to any challenge to America's position as planetary bully is to advocate lethal retaliation.
 
 
0 # mim 2016-06-18 22:13
So how are you going to work it on Election Day, futhark? To stop Trump, or not to stop Trump?
 
 
+43 # elkingo 2016-06-18 10:49
The original, uneuphemised expression (you mention it) is duck's ass - perhaps more apt.
Donald is the consummate horror as candidate.
But he is as well the consummate personality development of capitalism - the progressed historical extension thereof. Alienated, narcissist, character-disor der, status-obsessed , cruel.

He would be the first hoodlum president, as against Hillary's (and Bill's) first yuppie presidents. I honestly wonder which would be worse on the road to perdition.

I never wore a DA in high school, nor pegged pants etc. - being a terrified quaking little school boy.But I once swung hard at the school bully, ending my weekly beatings.
And I do, (minus the vulgarity) give he finger to the establishment, which, even without Donald, is pathological, cruel and degenerative. (O yes, the American constitutional democracy is still the greatest political idea ever enunciated. So?)

No Garrison, though I know those 50's midwest Republicans were human beings, along with the denizens of "Lake Wobegon" - but we are NOT the country we think we are. We are a capitalist, imperial, world ravaging, violence-soaked monstrosity and have been for a long time. See ya at the high school reunion.
 
 
+46 # elkingo 2016-06-18 10:55
Let's hope Donald keeps shooting himself in the foot, to the extent that even Neanderthal Repuglicans ditch him. But then I'd say the smart money would be on Ryan as a dark horse out of the blue. More polished than Donald (easy) but the same inhumane shit values.
 
 
+18 # Saberoff 2016-06-18 11:04
Come on dude! Plenty of duck-tail haircuts in the fifties, all over the world! Not just the do donned by losers, barflies and punks. Rather obtuse side you're showing yourself, today. And, I wholly agree with the comment above concerning Mr. Ryan: not the best choice to impart humanity. Also, indeed, this country is already the loser, barfly and bully-punk of the world.
 
 
-30 # elkingo 2016-06-18 11:04
And I have lost, well once really devout faith in the "good guys" - Obomber, Liz Warren and even Bernie himself, now a "lame duck candidate" - for endorsing Hillary, to one degree or another. Cory Booker too. They have sold their souls to the company store. Of course I would never really do this, but have said before, as a hyperbole, figuratively if you will, that I'd vote for Donald before dissembling hoodlum criminal Hillary.

The global capitalist system is too far gone to even realistically distinguish between them, and the plant's execution nears. Vote for Jill Stein, at least you'll be able to sleep at night.
 
 
-5 # kundrol 2016-06-18 12:59
I probably will vote for Jill Stein since the powers that be won't let us vote for Bernie, who, btw has never and never will sell his soul to the company store. Jill is great but not well known enough to win the election, whereas Bernie could win, and that's why both parties fear him. Trump is a clownish red herring whose job is to divert attention from the evils of Hillary.
 
 
-2 # SHK 2016-06-21 21:21
Won't let us vote for Bernie? You can write him in. I refuse to vote for any of the others. I don't care if I'm "throwing my vote away"—It's no more a discard than a Green Party vote.
 
 
-5 # kalpal 2016-06-18 15:01
elkingo - while I vote Green Party I may not bother if a scumbag like you is on that party's side.

Perhaps you are a shill in the employ of the Guardians Of Privilege.
 
 
+33 # JayaVII 2016-06-18 11:20
Trump is the candidate of choice of a country -- or a large sector of a country -- that has no culture (i.e., a mental environment that makes you think and feel) other than pop culture (i.e., an environment that makes thought and feeling impossible). Only about three out of 10 Americans participated in any kind of cultural event other than movies or rock concerts over the past five years, which means that whatever messages and values and inward experiences contained in art are irrelevant and unknown to the majority of the American public. No matter what happens to the philistine Trump, the basic philistinism and anti-intellectu alism of mainstream American culture will not change. He embodies the larger threat of the TV screen. As a fellow named Mao once observed, there can be no political revolution until there is a cultural revolution. An intellectually/ spiritually/emo tionally dead culture is a big tasty petri dish for fascism.
 
 
-25 # stan van houcke 2016-06-18 11:31
this description tells more about garrison keillor than about trump. the obsession with trump is revealing for the fact that the white mainstream intelligentsia is not able to see that something fundamentally went wrong with the u.s.a.

trump is only a symbol of the sickness of the american society. keillor's weapon of soft irony all these years has been insufficient to show the american white middle class where they would end. now it is too late and the sarcasm and hatred behind keillor words work contra-producti ve. instead of trying to understand what went wrong with the land of the free, home of the brave, keillor now shows empty hands. it's as revealing as pathetic.
 
 
+12 # kalpal 2016-06-18 15:05
So when you see someone with a red rash, you know that this person is doing what is best for medicine?

Kaiser Drumpf is a symbol of the poor education to be found in this nation. After all he reputedly attended and graduated from college yet his speech is that of a 4th grader, much like GW Bush who was a native speaker of Gibberish, not English.
 
 
+12 # dbrize 2016-06-18 11:52
The idea that Trump, who has never held public office will somehow bring us "fascism" would be laughable if there weren't so many who take it seriously.

The entire concept that we might "get" something that is already here and present and has been for several decades is a tribute to SpinMeisters Anonymous, Inc.

Our current state of affairs was predicted over six decades ago:

"All that is needed to set us definitely on the road to a Fascist society is war. It will of course be a modified form of Fascism at first."

"The enemy aggressor is always pursuing a course of larceny, murder, rapine and barbarism. We are always moving forward with high mission, a destiny imposed by the Deity to regenerate our victims, while incidentally capturing their markets; to civilize savage and senile and paranoid peoples, while blundering accidentally into their oil wells."

"No matter what the cause, even though it be to conquer with tanks and planes and modern artillery some defenseless black population, there will be no lack of poets and preachers and essayists and philosophers to invent the necessary reasons and gild the infamy with righteousness. To this righteousness there is, of course, never an adequate reply. Thus a war to end poverty becomes an unanswerable enterprise. For who can decently be for poverty? To even debate whether the war will end poverty becomes an exhibition of ugly pragmatism and the sign of an ignoble mind."

John T Flynn
 
 
-2 # SHK 2016-06-21 21:27
I think Hillary is much much much more dangerous. Trump would be watched like a hawk. He would be out-republicani ng the republicans and they wouldn't like that! They want a very obedient servant at the head of the nation. I think the party is as afraid of him as the democrats are of Bernie. The Congress is supposed to be following the lead of the President but they really want someone they can control. He will be sat on by the GOP almost as much as by the DEMS.
 
 
+36 # elizabethblock 2016-06-18 11:53
Garrison Keillor is a living national treasure (an official title in Japan, should be one in America).
There is certainly something wrong with the USA, but Trump is only making it worse.
 
 
+32 # danireland46 2016-06-18 12:11
Garrison absolutely nails the donald. What else would I expect. The man, now retired from his weekly Prairie Home Companion, with the time to think and comment on the world we live in. It certainly isn't Lake Wobegon MN. It doesn't even seem like the donald could be a resident of our planet. As Keiller points out, he isn't. He's a product of arrested development, living out his teen fantasy as Elvis the king.
 
 
-35 # r.anker@sbcglobal.net 2016-06-18 12:42
Interesting to see the vinegary response to Trump's candidacy from the intelligentsia. How comfortable they are with their imagined superiority! I don't think the current reaction to Trump is much different from the reception accorded Andrew Jackson. How happy to be rid of that pseudo corn spun rhetoric from Garrison whose pretensions become ever more obvious as we exit from his world view. Rest in peace old bombastic seer.
Charles
 
 
+9 # kalpal 2016-06-18 15:09
Imagined superiority? Is that like the superiority of people like you who never managed to graduate from middle school?

When you are ill do you demand that the physician who will see you be at the bottom of his graduating class? I bet you do as far be it from you to come near an elite graduate from a medical school.

BTW next time you need an attorney look for the one who charges $30.00 an hour. That indicates a lack of elitism.
 
 
+7 # dbrize 2016-06-18 18:23
What the hey, did rocback put you up to giving him free publicity? When RSN is crying for donors, for shame.
 
 
+9 # ericlipps 2016-06-18 13:08
Quote:
But if your dad was rich and if he was born before you were, then the ducktail could inherit enough wealth to be practically impervious to public opinion. This has happened in New York City. A man who could never be elected city comptroller is running for president.
But if your dad was rich and WASN'T born before you were, he must have used some of that money to buy a time machine. Maybe that's how he'd get rich in the first place: by betting on sports events and start-up companies.(I wish I'd bought $1,000 of Apple stock in 1980! I wish I'd had the thousand dollars to do it.)
 
 
+19 # Skippydelic 2016-06-18 13:48
Sorry, Garrison, but I have to disagree…

I don't look at The Donald as being a 'punk' or a 'hood'; he might have a DA, but could you EVER see him being in a street gang, riding a motorcycle, etc.?

NO!

Donald Trump was, is, and always will be that stuck-up, insufferable RICH KID that you always wanted to smack the crap out of - because he was so OBNOXIOUS - but couldn't, because his RICH DADDY would just buy the school and fire all the teachers for letting his precious little Egbert get 'bullied' by all those mean poor kids!

Trust me on this… ;-)
 
 
-11 # Robbee 2016-06-18 14:16
keillor gets roundly ripped by our usual rump trojan! - says - # RMDC

- what? r-? are you still here? your usual method is to cut and run? - okay? let's see how you ducked 4 questions? 1. yes (but) 2. yes (but) 3. I don't know 4. Yes (but)

THESE ARE SIMPLE QUESTIONS!!!

1) did obama or clinton torture prisoners?
YOU SAY NOTHING! ABOUT TORTURING PRISONERS! EXCEPT! ARGUING! WITH NO BASIS! THAT "Obama's CIA still runs torture camps all over the world" SO YOU KNOW WHAT NO ONE ELSE DOES? RIGHT?

2) is a generation of repug prez election wins worth 4 years of rump prez?
YOUR 2ND PROGRESSIVE PARTY GUARANTEES THAT CONSERVATIVES WIN NATIONAL ELECTIONS FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES! HOW IS THAT WORTH 4 YEARS OF RUMP? LUNATIC?

3) does warren's hatred for rump justify her refusal to endorse hill or bernie?
SINCE YOU DON'T KNOW WHY WARREN HATES RUMP, WHY DON'T YOU MAKE IT A POINT TO FIND OUT? see warren’s collected remarks hating on rump and loving on hill and bernie on twitter! or utube! or google it!

4) have democrats deployed massive efforts to prevent poor people from voting? ON MAY 5TH YOU SAY # RMDC 2016-05-05 12:57 "There have been massive efforts by both republicans and democrats to prevent (poor people) from voting.” YOU DUCK! YOU QUACK! IT’S A SIMPLE QUESTION!!! THESE ARE ALL SIMPLE QUESTIONS!!!

r-! - your lies and lunacy would be well-received on conservative blogspots! why don't you take your rump quacks elsewhere? - go to rump HQ! go kiss rump!
 
 
+11 # kalpal 2016-06-18 15:13
Robbee - Warren abhors Kaiser Drumpf because he is intensely abhorrent. He is a pathological liar, a sexist scumbag, a sleazy weasel and those may be his crowing achievements.
 
 
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-13 # Robbee 2016-06-18 14:28
sitting around waiting for collapse is no solution! - lie! - # RMDC 2016-06-15 18:38
Reform is not possible. All we can do is wait for the internal rot to grow and reach the point at which the regime collapses.
 
 
+7 # denialawareness 2016-06-20 07:07
Yeah, we tried that when GW Bush was elected. And then he was re-elected. Not a valid strategy.
 
 
-3 # Robbee 2016-06-18 14:34
demagogues! strongmen! arise! - to solve all problems! - to make trains run on time! again! -- when folks become cynical about gov't! - a feature repugs have denounced for the last 8 years! - while doing everything congress could! - to cripple any recovery! during a dem administration!

now here are 17 things rump consistently promises! to do! - that hill promises not to! - that rump as prez! with a repug congress behind him! - will do! - it's high time rump trojans in denial! cowards all! here on rsn! - discuss!

1) torture prisoners!
2) kill spouses and children of enemies whom our law says he names!
3) curb press’ free speech!
4) on his first day in office, tear-up the iran treaty (that prevents iran from building nukes!)
5) deport 11 million illegals!
6) build a wall clear across mexico!
7) make mexico pay for it (which takes invading and occupying mexico!)
8) nominate to scotus, a pro-life "justice", or 3, just like scalia!
9) abolish the inheritance tax - our nation's ONLY TAX ON WEALTH! THAT REDISTRIBUTES WEALTH!! - AS IN SOCIALISM! - PART OF OUR LAW SINCE 1890’S! - AGE OF ROBBER BARONS!
10) cut income taxes, almost in half, for the rich only!
11) register, police profile, harass, ground and ban muslims!
12) “rebuild our military!”
13) “make america great! again!”
14) abolish hate crimes!
15) abolish planned parenthood!
16) abolish dodd-frank bank reforms! and
17) protect billionaires from slander!
 
 
-3 # Ray Kondrasuk 2016-06-18 15:52
Robbee, here's a possible #18:

18) Slap tariffs on the Chinese who created the global warming myth
 
 
-2 # Robbee 2016-06-18 14:36
rump-kissers in denial, part 2

next! 12 things hill consistently promises! to do! - that rump promises not to!

1) equal pay for women!
2) paid family medical leave at birth!
3) raising the minimum wage to $12 per hour!
4) hill beat bernie to 1st proposing a path to citizenship for illegals!
5) civil rights for oppressed minorities - blacks! latinos! lgbt! muslims and union members!
6) gun control! more progressive than bernie!
7) bernie and hill both endorse obama's iran treaty!
8) in 2006, while in the senate, hill proposed sweeping reform of shadow banking, including jailing banksters and protecting whistle-blowers!
9) while in the senate together, bernie and hill voted together 93% of the time!
10) hill proposes to expand the ACA to cover everyone! - plus add the public option! - hill proposes incremental, but real, progress!
11) support choice! women’s reproductive rights!
12) support planned parenthood!

- it's high-time brain dead! rump-kissers! stopped giving rump free pass here! - go dem!
 
 
+5 # newell 2016-06-18 15:06
You people are crazy. We should all have Trump bumper stickers! We will win back Congress--but not without the help of Trump. The Republicans are not as stupid as we think--just heartless. They could easily and legally, change the rules, deny Trump and put in Ryan. In fact, at this point, I think it likely. They would make many Trump supporters angry, but just might keep control of Congress and what's left of their image. And however wrong we think that image has been, they control most of the public offices in this country.
 
 
+1 # reiverpacific 2016-06-21 09:40
Quoting newell:
You people are crazy. We should all have Trump bumper stickers! We will win back Congress--but not without the help of Trump. The Republicans are not as stupid as we think--just heartless. They could easily and legally, change the rules, deny Trump and put in Ryan. In fact, at this point, I think it likely. They would make many Trump supporters angry, but just might keep control of Congress and what's left of their image. And however wrong we think that image has been, they control most of the public offices in this country.


Well, if my wife and I stuck Drumpf sticker on our trusty steeds where we live, even in irony, we'd probably get broken windshields for our pains.
Never even saw ONE Clinton sticker or sign -Bernie only.
Says something about the North Oregon Coast mayhaps.
 
 
+6 # Realist1948 2016-06-18 15:42
Trump's duck-tail underscores his similarity to Donald Duck. Not only in appearance, but in attitude -- an attitude that appeals to the disgruntled. "By the late 1930s, Donald [Duck]... began to surpass Mickey [Mouse]. Perhaps his feisty, surlier moods better matched the country's frustrations." From "New Ideas from Dead CEOs" by Todd Buchholz See side-by-side photos of the two surly Donalds in a March 31 post at https://www.facebook.com/hideo.gump
 
 
+1 # reiverpacific 2016-06-21 09:41
Quoting Realist1948:
Trump's duck-tail underscores his similarity to Donald Duck. Not only in appearance, but in attitude -- an attitude that appeals to the disgruntled. "By the late 1930s, Donald [Duck]... began to surpass Mickey [Mouse]. Perhaps his feisty, surlier moods better matched the country's frustrations." From "New Ideas from Dead CEOs" by Todd Buchholz See side-by-side photos of the two surly Donalds in a March 31 post at https://www.facebook.com/hideo.gump


What a dith-th-th-th-P IC-able notion!
 
 
+15 # ahollman 2016-06-18 16:11
I'm a Sanders supporter (still).

I agree that, as Keillor asserts, Trump is a punk and a bully; that, as others have asserted, he is, in various terms, narcissistic, an egomaniac, self-centered, and in love only with two things - himself and money. I think everyone is aware of his gross ignorance of both foreign countries and foreign policy. I agree that he is a bigot.

Beyond that, he is a terrible businessman. Read the NY Times article on his (mis)management of Atlantic City casinos. In his use of other people's money and massive debt, rather than his own money, to buy or build companies, extract their value, lay off their workers, run them into the ground, and sell off what's left, he makes Mitt Romney look like an amateur.

Given Trump's business practices, his book, "The Art of the Deal", should be called "The Art of the Steal". If he became President, he would not be known as "Commander in Chief", but "Commander in Thief".

Trump is only one of a long line of populist thieves. Huey Long of Louisiana was one. Benito Mussolini of Italy was another. The recently departed Hugo Chavez of Venezuela was another. Today, India's Narendra Modi is another. In Russia, Putin and his kleptocracy of fossil fuel apparatchiks are others. Mexico, China, Nigeria and Pakistan have equivalents.

Politics is how we make collective decisions. It's also the art of the possible, requiring negotiation and compromise. If you don't like current candidates, work for others next time.
 
 
+6 # plfdmusic 2016-06-18 20:22
I don't think Garrison Keillor is being fair to the sea turtles.
 
 
+7 # jpmarat 2016-06-18 20:51
FINALLY, RMDC makes a stellar point: You can't tell a fascist only by its cover. Agenda really is the key. Hillary has no plans to MASS ARREST, place in Concentration camps, 11,000,000 Latins. Hillary has no plans to target every single Muslim in America, on the way to America, in places awaiting carpet bombing, or worse. Hillary has no plan to trash the Iran Treaty that spares US from global economic collapse, WWIII. ETC. Yes, she has ghastly shortcomings, but calling out the stormtroopers is not one of them. Trump dresses better than Adolf, smiles more, not counting the smirks. But EXACTLY like Hitler he announces a horrifying agenda, and would proceed to implement even if it meant crushing silly Congress & silly Courts. He's just say, "I'm doing what der Volk voted for!"
 
 
0 # jpmarat 2016-06-18 21:13
Cousins, don't be so narrow minded! Jerry Lee Lewis, the "Killer," married his cousin, and that worked out fine, right? The 6 toed offspring is a myth, terrible biology. Marrying cousins is common among hundreds of millions of people world wide. Sometimes this "inbreeding" produces extraordinary talent, capacities. I was only making fun of the whacko who sand bagged GK, but cousin sex/marriage, NOT sibling, NOT parent-child, is accepted world wide. A LOT of it among arranged marriages. Loosen up.
 
 
0 # Nominae 2016-06-19 03:30
Quoting jpmarat:
Cousins, don't be so narrow minded! Jerry Lee Lewis, the "Killer," married his cousin, and that worked out fine, right? The 6 toed offspring is a myth, terrible biology.

PART I

You are abused by some *seriously defective logic, and a stupendously outmoded understanding of the *PROOF made possible by the recent modern *LEAPS in the field of human genetics since Science successfully sequenced the Human Genome. ;-D

FDR was married to his *distant cousin Eleanor. Small caveat, however. Biologists can SHOW YOU that *any offspring of a mix with the DNA of *FIRST COUSINS or CLOSER *will give you the *hugely increased likelihood of the kind of mental and physical defects that were *OBVIOUS among the European Nobility during the 1800s, who practiced incestuous matrimony in order to "keep the BLOOD LINE PURE". (They apparently thought that they were Thoroughbred Horses).

It is *NOT a *freakin' "myth", it is an ESTABLISHED Scientific *fact, which means that EVEN *YOU could take the available data, or collect your OWN data, and come to precisely the *SAME conclusion !

The in-breeding once common in the American South ala Lewis, who, at age 22, took his *third wife in the form of his FIRST cousin, age 13, did *not "work out fine".

Where do you think stillbirths and *BIRTH DEFECTS come from ?

Are they to be filed under "shit happens" even when geneticists can EASILY *PROVE OTHERWISE ?

Cont'd
 
 
-1 # Nominae 2016-06-19 03:30
PART II

Yes, there IS a long history of in-breeding among the human species
(Cleopatra was married at age 16 to her 10 year old BROTHER Ptolemy XIV according to the Egyptian CUSTOM of the time) because back THEN people simply DID NOT *KNOW BETTER ! They attributed the resulting birth defects to a "curse from the gawdz" !

They can be forgiven for *THEIR ignorance. In this day and time, such ignorance is simply and pathetically *inexcusable.

Incestuous matrimony is what produced textbook MORONS like King George III from whom the American Colonists seceded in 1776. Georgie was so busy running up and down the halls of his castle at night, barefoot and in his nightgown, physically chasing down *ghosts that he was intent upon slaying with his *Sword, that the poor retarded Monarch had *NO freakin' IDEA who the hell the American Colonists *WERE !

So, really, fellas, stay the hell off of your sisters and your First Cousins, bcuz Society does *NOT want to pay for Institutionaliz ing your mentally and physically defective offspring !
_
 
 
+2 # Skyelav 2016-06-19 21:02
(They apparently thought that they were Thoroughbred Horses).

Doesn't work so well for horses either...
 
 
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-3 # jpmarat 2016-06-18 21:19
These #s may be a little high, but they reveal the stunning ignorance and pathetic rigidity, callow self righteousness of so many RSN big mouth Commenters.
"It is estimated that 20 percent of all couples worldwide are first cousins. It is also estimated that 80 percent of all marriages historically have been between first cousins! In some cultures, the term cousin and mate are synonymous. Albert Einstein married his first cousin."
 
 
0 # Nominae 2016-06-19 04:14
Quoting jpmarat:
"It is estimated that 20 percent of all couples worldwide are first cousins. It is also estimated that 80 percent of all marriages historically have been between first cousins! In some cultures, the term cousin and mate are synonymous. Albert Einstein married his first cousin."

O.K., Slick - let's try this again.

FIRST, your figures above are *ALL jerked clean out of THIN *AIR.

SECOND, *Anything that happened prior to MODERN UNDERSTANDING of Human Genetics was done in abject *IGNORANCE of modern Human Genetics.

THIRD, Einstein was a Theoretical Physicist, NOT a Geneticist ! Why *WAS that ? Oh... *THAT'S right, there was NO SUCH *THING as the Scientific Study of Human Genetics in Einstein's day. The closest thing they had to Genetics in the 1930s was the "pseudoscience" of *EUGENICS, which The Third Reich *borrowed from AMERICAN "Scientists" of the time, and upon which the Nazis built their *ENTIRE theory (long-since debunked, I am happy to add ;-D) of the *MASTER RACE ! ;-D

The *more you post this bilge, the more you expose your *OWN simply "*bone-crushing " ignorance regarding the field of Modern Human Genetics.

From this point forward, your "knowledge" is clearly proven to be "twaddle" ! ;-D

Cheers, Mengele, stay off of your mommy, your sisters and your first cousins ! ;-D
_
 
 
+3 # Moxa 2016-06-18 22:25
I am blessed to live in New York, where I do not have to face the moral decision of whether to vote for someone I think is unfit to be president (Hillary Clinton) just because a madman (Trump) is running against her. I am spared that dilemma because New York is so decidedly Democratic. I have said before that Trump is bad enough to make Clinton seem normal and principled. I think that is too bad. I am dismayed to see all the thumbs down reviews of people who still feel disinclined to vote for Clinton. Why should their morality be questioned because they feel a repulsion toward both candidates and have become tired of holding their nose in the voting booth? We had a chance of changing things in this country with Bernie Sanders. Only the FBI can save us now.
 
 
-6 # Renaldo Carrillo 2016-06-19 07:39
"But if your dad was rich and if he was born before you were," ( meaning IF your father is older than you are ? And if not, then your father must be younger than you or of the same age?) "then the ducktail (punk) could inherit enough wealth to be practically impervious to public opinion" *

This overwrought and absurd attempt at a creative and clever revilement of Donald Trump is excerpted verbatim from an article* about Trump written by Garrison Keillor. It's another example of the self-serving, idiotic rants of "celebrities" who have climbed onto the anti-trump platform for the sole purpose of promoting themselves as profound thinkers and intelligent commentators whose opinions are important and enlightening. Proclaiming disdain for and fear of Trump is an ideal promo opportunity that can't be missed.
Thank you very much Garrison Keillor but we can think for ourselves and don't need you (and thousands of others of your ilk) to continually state and re-state the obvious about Donald Trump's personality and possible presidency.
 
 
+3 # elkingo 2016-06-19 11:53
Renaldo, Old Boy,
You seem immune to sarcasm and subtlety. "If your father is older than you..."
 
 
+2 # elkingo 2016-06-19 14:04
KalpaL
Jeez, I'd hate to think a scumbag such as myself would put you off voting Green. As for an apologist for the privileged, I am a nigh penniless poet, and more of a socialist than either Bernie of Jill.

But thanks for the cordial personal response. First one I've gotten!
 
 
+1 # Skyelav 2016-06-19 20:44
Just talking about Trump attracts the worst kind of people. Amazing. Not to mention Keillor doesn't know anything about sea turtles.
 
 
0 # Ralph 2016-06-20 17:19
After Clinton and Obomber had Gaddafi killed via cornholing with knife, the "better half" of this Clinton/Trump ballot said: "we came, we saw, he died." Then she proceeded to glibly laugh. You can talk about guys with weird hair poking people with pencils but somehow a psychopath like Clinton wielding the red button doesn't really look like a viable choice for me. Good luck folks. This is not going to end well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmIRYvJQeHM
 
 
0 # MsAnnaNOLA 2016-06-21 15:51
Yes Ralph. I literally was sick to my stomach when I saw that footage. Taking delight in a brutal murder of any living human being should disqualify one for the presidency. Period. The fact that she herself was responsible for that murder indirectly makes it all the more chilling.

She is not a human being. She is a sociopath or a psychopath.
 
 
0 # Ralph 2016-06-21 17:10
Anyone who votes for the two main party candidates this election is either pathetically ignorant and stupid or criminally insane. That's the sad reality of modern America.
 

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