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Excerpt: "Alert! California poll workers have been told to give all independent voters 'provisional' ballots if they want to vote in Democratic Party. That's illegal - and will insure that Sanders voters' ballots end up in the garbage, uncounted."

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. (photo: Reuters)
Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. (photo: Reuters)

Placebo Ballots: Stealing California From Bernie Using an Old GOP Vote-Snatching Trick

By Greg Palast with Dennis J Bernstein, Reader Supported News

01 June 16


The Best Democracy Money Can Buy: The Election Crimes Bulletin

lert! California poll workers have been told to give all independent voters “provisional” ballots if they want to vote in Democratic Party. That’s illegal – and will insure that Sanders voters’ ballots end up in the garbage, uncounted.

A special bulletin for California voters. And for the rest of you, how this same trickery – shifting voters to provisional ballots which are rarely counted – can steal the White House and Congress for the GOP in November.

Here’s the 411. If you’re registered as an independent voter in California, you have the right to vote in the Democratic Presidential Primary. Just ask for the ballot. But look out! Reports out of Orange County are that some poll workers have been told to give “No Party Preference” (NPP), independent voters, PROVISIONAL ballots as opposed to regular ballots.

Voter, BEWARE! Do NOT accept a PROVISIONAL BALLOT! They’re really “Placebo Ballots” – they give you the satisfaction of feeling like you’ve voted, without the inconvenience of anyone actually having to count them!

And for our readers in the other 49 states: You can bet that the GOP will be shunting voters to these placebo provisional ballots in November. In the last election, over two MILLION voters, overwhelmingly voters of color, were shifted to these rarely-counted ballots. That’s how you steal elections.

No, I’m not promoting Bernie, nor Ernie, nor anyone. I’m promoting democracy. Let’s make sure your vote counts. Read on (or listen in) while Dennis Bernstein and I take you through that ugly sausage factory calling the American voting system….


Dennis Bernstein: Greg, welcome back. This week we’ll focus on what Greg calls placebo ballots, which are incredibly relevant to the upcoming California primary.

Greg Palast: Glad to be here for the bulletin. But I want to call it the alert, because I want people to wake up, get alert, and find out what’s happening in California and nationwide so you don’t lose your vote.

DB: You’ve done a lot of research on the provisional ballot.

Palast: If you don’t know what a provisional ballot is, you are probably white. I call them placebo ballots. They were created by George Bush and Karl Rove after they swiped Florida in 2000. The Congressional Black Caucus was very upset that people were not able to vote because they were falsely removed from the voter roles for all kinds of cockamamie reasons. So they said, “If your name is not on the voter roles, you should still be able to vote provisionally. They can check your records and count your vote later so you don’t lose your vote.” They passed the provisional ballots through the Help America Vote Act. You can imagine, Dennis, what happens when George Bush says he’s going to help us vote. People won the right to a provisional ballot, but we didn’t win the right to have them counted. They rarely are. That’s why I call them placebo ballots. They say you can’t vote here, but you can fill out a provisional ballot. You think if you filled out a provisional ballot, sign it and stick it in the envelope, it’s counted. It isn’t. The chances they’ll count it are minimal. It’s like voting, but it’s not voting.

What does that have to do with California? I am currently reporting from Southern California, and there’s an Ashley Beck, who is a poll worker in conservative Orange County. She was being trained with other poll workers, and they were given some very strange information. In the California primary, the independent voters registered as NPP, or no party preference, can vote in the Democratic primary. They can ask for a ballot and they are allowed to vote. The Orange County poll workers were told if NPP voters ask for a Democratic Party ballot to vote for Bernie or Hillary, they are not to be given regular ballots, but provisional ballots. This shook up Ashley:

“I was told that all NPP voters are to be given provisional ballots. I was bothered by that, because I was always told that NPP voters in California can vote for Democrats and their vote would be counted. I was a little worried that he was telling all 18 of us poll workers to give all NPP voters provisional ballots. We all know what happens most of the time with provisional ballots. They are not being counted.”

They are not being counted. Here’s the trick: Overwhelmingly, all polls show that NPP, or independent voters, are Bernie Sanders voters. Regular registered Democrats tend to slightly favor Hillary Clinton in the polls. So if you knock out the NPP voters by giving them placebo ballots – provisional ballots – that’s one way to steal the primary in California on June 7.

DB: The poll worker says that everybody knows these ballots don’t get counted, so there’s some awareness this is another Bernie fake-out.

Palast: The polls show an overwhelming preference of NPP/independent voters for Sanders versus registered Democrats who slightly favor Clinton.

And listen up: If you are in Nevada, Utah or Florida, you are not safe going into the voting booths either, because provisional ballots are everywhere in the USA under federal law. People are being given provisional ballots like candy. In 2008, 2.1 million voters were shunted to provisional ballots. They might as well have written their vote on bubbles. 2.1 million voters.

Who gets these ballots normally? I was on a book tour in Palm Springs and there were about 200 white folk and two people of color in the audience. I said, “Has anyone here ever gotten a provisional ballot?” The only two Black voters in the room both raised their hands, and that was it. Black people know what provisional ballots are, and they probably know that if they fill one out, the chance of it getting counted is slim. If you are given a provisional ballot, don’t take it. Demand adjudication – say that independents are entitled to regular ballots in the Democratic primary. This is a nationwide problem.

DB: Give us some history. Tell us about the Laguna and Acoma pueblos in New Mexico, south of Albuquerque. Tell us about what happened to this indigenous community and those who called this into question and defended people’s right to vote.

Palast: I went to the Acoma pueblo in New Mexico with my investigations team. The Native Americans who live in the pueblo were voting for city council in droves because they are very concerned that their land is being poisoned by the uranium mines – which are going to expand.… Because they didn’t want their lands poisoned, they had a motive to vote. There was also a reason for people to not let them vote. The people that wanted the mine didn’t want the natives to vote. What did they do?

They told the pueblo residents, “You are not properly registered.” In Native American communities, they say things like “Your address is incorrect because it says ‘home next to the Post Office.’” That’s often the only address in a pueblo, but it’s not a street number, so their registration is challenged.

There were 200 people in the pueblo who had their registrations challenged, and they were given provisional ballots. “Don’t worry. If you overcome the challenge, we’ll count your vote. Fill out the provisional ballots and put them in the envelope.”

The county took the ballots and threw them all away because they said they were in the wrong envelopes. They were the envelopes the government had given them, knowing they were the wrong envelopes they could then throw out. That’s how this game is played.

No one is hit with more provisional ballots than Native Americans. They are one of the most Democratic Party-leaning groups there are. If you are wondering if this is a one-party steal system, it was the Democrats who took away votes of their fellow Democrats at the pueblo because they didn’t like who they were voting for in the primary. This is typical, as we are seeing in California right now.

DB: In Arizona, you write about a John Brakey, who worked with Audit Arizona. What happened to him?

Palast: He’s a great vote theft and election manipulation investigator. He’s well known in our field and works with a great team of attorneys. He was a poll watcher in Arizona, and they were taking Hispanic voters, especially young men, and automatically sending them over to provisional ballots – which wouldn’t get counted.

They’d say, “What’s your name?” “Jose Juarez.” “Well your name isn’t on the voter roles.” Why? When they looked for Juarez, they looked under “W” – I kid you not! When Brakey complained, the state of Arizona called in the state cops, not to stop the theft of the vote but to arrest John Brakey, the poll worker. This is the type of games that are played.

In California, with the attempt to steal votes by giving independent voters provisional ballots, for the first time there are a lot of white people, Bernie voters, who are being treated as if they are Black, Hispanic or Native American voters.

This is the typical treatment for voters of color in America, under our apartheid provisional ballot system we have. Two million ballots in 2008 were provisional and most were thrown in the garbage. We are heading into a primary where poll workers are going to try to shunt the independent voters to the provisional ballots and get their votes thrown away. If you take a provisional ballot and you are an NPP voter, it will 100% be thrown away because you’re not allowed to use that ballot even if they give it to you.

Protect your vote. Go to and download 7 Ways to Beat the Ballot Bandits. One is don’t vote provisionally. You can say, “I want a polling judge to determine that I get a real ballot.” In California, an independent NPP has a right to vote in the Democratic primary.

DB: Is there somebody like a polling judge around? Do they legally have to produce that person? How does that process work? Many people might want to fight for their vote but they might be intimidated. They might be threatened that they are causing problems. They could be threatened with violations of getting in the way of the vote that’s taking place. How do you fight this at the front line?

Palast: You do have a right to ask for an adjudication of your vote. There should be a poll judge who is assigned to each poll.

I would give advice that everyone should have a lawyer, but that’s not possible. This is how it’s coming down in America. It’s unfortunate and sad.

Also, outside California, if you can, do “early voting” in November. If your name is not on the voter rolls, don’t wait until Election Day to find out. It’s better to vote early so you can find out if there’s a problem. In California, you don’t have that choice in the primary. You’ve got to go in and stand up for your rights. The ACLU and Rock the Vote and others will have numbers for the general election. We’ll find out what’s available for voter protection in the June 7 California primary. I was hoping California would be a little bit cleaner, but it looks filthy already.

DB: How many votes could be at stake in California?

Palast: There are well over a half million NPP independent voters in California who all have the right to vote in the Democratic primary. Over half a million is real numbers in my neighborhood. The Republican Party is closed to the NPP voter.

DB: The difference in New York is that the independents were not allowed to vote in the Democratic primary. Hillary says she has more voters, but it’s because independents can’t vote. But in California, independents have the right vote in the Democratic primary, and nobody should tell them differently.

Palast: 100%. If you are in the American Independent Party you need to vote for them. But if you are truly an independent voter, registered as an NPP, you absolutely have the right to a real Democratic Party ballot to vote in the Democratic primary for the president of the United States. That’s California law. There is no reason for a provisional anything. In California, please check and make sure you are registered. If not, you will get a provisional ballot that will go to the shredder.

Greg Palast has been called the "most important investigative reporter of our time - up there with Woodward and Bernstein" (The Guardian). Palast has broken front-page stories for BBC Television Newsnight, The Guardian, The Nation Magazine, Rolling Stone, and Harper's Magazine. He is the author of the New York Times bestsellers Billionaires & Ballot Bandits, Armed Madhouse, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, and the highly acclaimed Vultures' Picnic, named Book of the Year 2012 on BBC Newsnight Review. His books have been translated into two dozen languages. His brand new film of his documentary reports for BBC Newsnight and Democracy Now! is called Vultures and Vote Rustlers.

Dennis J Bernstein is the executive producer of Flashpoints, syndicated on Pacifica Radio, and is the recipient of a 2015 Pillar Award for his work as a journalist whistleblower. He is most recently the author of Special Ed: Voices from a Hidden Classroom.

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+91 # A_Har 2016-06-01 16:03

Me: Not one bit!

This might help the slow learners who continue to support Clinton recognize that the so-called Democratic party HAS MORPHED INTO THE REPUBLICANS!! You know....those people you so thoroughly despise......!
+98 # grandlakeguy 2016-06-01 16:41
Yes the Democratic Party has morphed into Republicans just as their presumptive nominee Goldwater Girl has morphed into a pretend Democrat!
+65 # rural oregon progressive 2016-06-01 23:35
But... The DNC (like so many Hillary supporters) continue to insist: It is all about the Supreme Court, it is all about the Supreme Court!!! Well now, if it really IS about the Supremes, why then does the DNC continue to hawk a flawed candidate that may well be indicted? Why do they insist on the coronation in spite of record-levels of unfavorability in the polls? Why to they continue to insist that Hillary is the only choice when she is (at best) running even with Trump when Bernie kicks Trumps ass in most every poll? If they really cared so damned much about the Supremes, they would be directing Super-Delegates to prepare to vote for Bernie. The simple answer is that they do not really care so much about the Supremes as they do the Clinton-neo-lib -dynasty they have been hoping for all these years. If they really cared about the Supremes, they'd throw Hillary under the bus and support Bernie. Sadly, they are willing to throw Citizens United, Rowe v Wade and countless other important issues under the bus instead. Clearly, the two party system is a one party system with one side being "slightly less" extreme right... I am sick of the lot of them!
-83 # rocback 2016-06-02 08:34
Enough with Bernie Sanders. Face reality. Quit falsely claiming the vote is stolen. That is the last refuge of scoundrels.
+29 # Helga Fellay 2016-06-02 08:54
and because the Washington Post says so, it must be true???? Why don't you give up, rocback - RSN readers aren't as stupid as you assume they are - all you do is make yourself look ridiculous.
+29 # cyd 2016-06-02 08:57
So if corporate media says it's true then it must be true. Thanks for clearing that up. I must have been confused.
+22 # reiverpacific 2016-06-02 09:37
Quoting rocback:
Enough with Bernie Sanders. Face reality. Quit falsely claiming the vote is stolen. That is the last refuge of scoundrels.

There you go again; couldn't wait could you?
Enough with YOU; -now piss off!
-42 # rocback 2016-06-02 10:57
Basic delegate math

According to the Associated Press, the gold standard for counting delegates, there are 4,051 pledged delegates. So a majority would be 2,026.

Clinton has won 1,769 delegates. So she is 257 short of a majority in pledged delegates.

Sanders has won 1,501 delegates. So he needs 525 delegates to win a majority.

Counting votes in Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands over the weekend, there are 761 delegates that will be selected through June 7.

So Clinton needs 34 percent of those delegates, a number she will certainly win, given the Democrats’ system of proportional allocations. Sanders needs 69 percent, an almost impossibly high bar.

So, even without the superdelegates, Clinton would have won the Democratic nomination fair and square.
-37 # rocback 2016-06-02 11:00
But she actually has 543 superdelegates in her camp (compared with 44 for Sanders). That leaves her just 71 delegates short of 2,383 needed to clinch the nomination.

Sanders claims it would be “factually incorrect” for the media to declare Clinton the presumptive nominee once she crosses the 2,383 threshold. But he is ignoring the fact that Clinton will also win a majority of the pledged delegates. There’s not much of a case he can make to superdelegates to switch sides, especially since he has long insisted that superdelegates should follow the will of the voters.

Indeed, senior Sanders adviser Tad Devine in early May told our colleague Greg Sargent that unless Sanders “significantly” closes the pledged delegate gap with Clinton, it will be borderline “impossible” to persuade superdelegates to switch from Clinton to Sanders.
+37 # Radscal 2016-06-02 12:42
Well, I'm glad to see you finally admit that HRC cannot win the nomination before the Convention, so it will be determined by the un-pledged delegates.

Since Sanders beats ALL Republicans in head-to-head polling, and HRC actually loses in some polls, and is less likely to win in basically all polls, if the DNC want's to win in November, those un-pledged delegate should vote for Bernie.
+14 # Billy Bob 2016-06-02 20:14
You're assuming the Democratic Party is interested in winning the election.

Yeah, sure it is, IF the nominee is a right-winger posing as a Democrat.

Personally, I think the corporate lobbyists who's votes each carry as much weight as about 100,000 of us, would rather LOSE to a right-wing pro-corporate lunatic from the Republican Party, than WIN with a Democrat insufficiently loyal to their profit margins.
+1 # Radscal 2016-06-02 21:22
Agreed, as you know.

Have you gotten over your infection? Or was it an infestation? ;-)
0 # Billy Bob 2016-06-03 01:00
It's in remission for a few months.

Thanks for asking.
+1 # Radscal 2016-06-03 13:50

+4 # grandlakeguy 2016-06-04 14:39
rocback says: "Quit falsely claiming the vote is stolen, That is the last refuge of scoundrels"

Actually the stealing of elections is clearly the last refuge of scoundrels and is the only way that a toxic, unpopular candidate with a solid track record of 100% failure (like HRC) can ever "win" an election.

It is time for a return to hand counted paper ballots and it is also time for a new political party:
+95 # grandlakeguy 2016-06-01 16:37
Sadly this is business as usual in the current reality of politics in America. The Republicans and the Democrats are pretty much the same corrupt inbred clubs clinging to power.
They are just Bad (D) and Worse (R).
In this type of climate why should we expect a choice other than "the lesser of two evils"?

The theft of your vote is the theft of your freedom.

What we need is a political revolution!
I wonder, is anyone out there that could start one?
+73 # Ken Halt 2016-06-01 19:26
grand: Thanks for your rhetorical invitation to comment; "What we need is a political revolution! I wonder, is anyone out there that could start one?" YES! You know and I know and the majority of indie voters know that Bernie Sanders is DA MAN! Head and shoulders above any other candidate in the '16 election cycle. He has created a political revolution and it won't go away in Nov, whatever happens between now and then. BERNIE FOR PRES! He is the only candidate this year that might transform the former pioneer-democra cy and now banana republic US into a functioning democracy.
-48 # rocback 2016-06-02 08:36
Sanders Incorrect Delegate Math:
+22 # reiverpacific 2016-06-02 09:41
Quoting rocback:
Sanders Incorrect Delegate Math:

Y'know, you're the most obnoxious, toxic poster -I won't grace it with the respectful term"contributo r"- on RSN since "Roland" -or did you just change y'r moniker?
Greg Palast is one of the few remaining deep truth digging, courageous investigative journalists left in the USA -actually he works for the BBC and independently.
You, your ilk and whatever sources you grub information from aren't fit to wipe his arse!
-37 # rocback 2016-06-02 11:04
The Pinocchio Test

In complaining about superdelegates, Sanders is trying to have his cake and eat it, too. If not for the “absurd” superdelegate system, Sanders’s presidential hopes would firmly die on June 7.

Thus Sanders is misleading his supporters when he suggests it is “factually incorrect” for the media to crown Clinton the presumptive nominee on June 7. In a narrow technical sense, the nominee is not chosen until the convention. But, barring some miracle, on June 7, Sanders will have lost the race for both pledged delegates and superdelegates. That leaves him with no hope to claim the nomination–unle ss he wants to overturn the will of the voters. But respecting the will of the voters was the original reason he complained about the superdelegate system in the first place.

Three Pinocchios
+21 # grandlakeguy 2016-06-02 11:35
..."barring some miracle," you say?

The miracle that all who want peace and a better future are hoping for is a prompt indictment by the Justice Department for Clinton's unlawful handling of State Department correspondence and her lies about the subject.

This toxic warmonger belongs in prison NOT in the Oval Office.
It is not too late!
-27 # rocback 2016-06-02 12:34
Don't expect an indictment of Hillary Clinton anytime soon, according to experts. Recommendations by the FBI to indict a person over the mishandling of classified information usually come only as a result of the most flagrant violations of law, a Monday report said.

"If you look at the history of what they pursued, you really had to have a slam-bam case that met all the elements," one former senior FBI official said for the report in Politico. Of 30 cases in which investigators recommended a misdemeanor charge for mishandling classified information between 2011 and 2015, prosecutors pursued charges in just six.

Those dynamics suggest that in order to recommend an indictment for Clinton over the more than 2,100 classified (after the fact) messages she stored on a private server as secretary of state, the FBI will likely need to discover relatively sensational violations of the law.
+3 # grandlakeguy 2016-06-04 14:42
I sincerely hope that if the DNC continues to go down the road to defeat in November with Clinton as the unelectable nominee that Bernie Sanders joins with Jill Stein to create a new political force in this country:

+3 # reiverpacific 2016-06-02 14:20
Quoting rocback:
The Pinocchio Test

In complaining about superdelegates, Sanders is trying to have his cake and eat it, too. If not for the “absurd” superdelegate system, Sanders’s presidential hopes would firmly die on June 7.

Thus Sanders is misleading his supporters when he suggests it is “factually incorrect” for the media to crown Clinton the presumptive nominee on June 7. In a narrow technical sense, the nominee is not chosen until the convention. But, barring some miracle, on June 7, Sanders will have lost the race for both pledged delegates and superdelegates. That leaves him with no hope to claim the nomination–unless he wants to overturn the will of the voters. But respecting the will of the voters was the original reason he complained about the superdelegate system in the first place.

Three Pinocchios

OK Mr Timbernose getting longer by the day. Stick THIS up yer arse and fart it; Clinton MK11 is in deep doo-doo as of this week ahead of California;
-19 # rocback 2016-06-02 14:44
LMAO, a Clinton hater quoting a conservative analyst using triple hearsay. Now THAT is really convincing. :-)
+4 # reiverpacific 2016-06-03 11:54
Quoting rocback:
LMAO, a Clinton hater quoting a conservative analyst using triple hearsay. Now THAT is really convincing. :-)

If you're responding to me, I'm not a "Clinton Hater".
Why do you crackpots HAVE to throw the word "hate" and it's derivations about so freely.
Says a lot about y'r mentality.
-9 # rocback 2016-06-03 12:40
Don't flatter yourself thinking I was speaking of you. I was speaking of the author of the report hyperlinked. But if the shoe fits...
+10 # Vivelevin 2016-06-01 17:02
If you are No Party Preference you can vote in the Democraty Primary! It will say so right on the materials you receive! If you are American Independent Party, you cannot vote in the Democratic Primary. This article is confusing when you write NPP/Indepedents . No one in California really knows what/who you are talking about.
+21 # A_Har 2016-06-01 18:23
Did you read the article?

“I was told that all NPP voters are to be given provisional ballots. I was bothered by that, because I was always told that NPP voters in California can vote for Democrats and their vote would be counted. I was a little worried that he was telling all 18 of us poll workers to give all NPP voters provisional ballots. We all know what happens most of the time with provisional ballots. They are not being counted.”
An election worker is saying they are throwing them OUT. It looks like you don't know what the article is talking about.
+9 # Radscal 2016-06-02 12:49
Yes it is confusing that we've been trained to think of non-party affiliated voters as "independents" since CA (and some other states) have a separate political party called "Independent Party.

Greg's point is to make sure that voters registered as No Party Preference insist on getting a "crossover" or Democratic Party ballot.

As I warned last week, poll workers are being trained to give you a provisional ballot. In New York, 90% of provisional ballots were tossed out.
+9 # Joe Blow 2016-06-01 21:55
"No Party Preference" rules from the Secretary of State of California"
+20 # banichi 2016-06-01 23:12
Thanks, JB. The article makes it clear, though the twists for Repubs, Greens, and Peace and Freedom parties NOT allowing NPP voters to request their ballots is strange to me.

But it says clearly that the Democratic party allows an NPP to request a Democratic ballot in the primary and the November elections. DO IT BERNERS!
+6 # Radscal 2016-06-02 12:54
Yes. The new CA ballot law allows each political party to decide whom they'll allow to vote in their party's Presidential primary.

It was one of those manipulative Propositions we voted for a few years ago.

On the other hand, ANYONE can vote in the Senate Primary, and two Democrats are in the lead, so the General Election ballot could well have ONLY two Democrats.
+4 # Radscal 2016-06-02 12:58
Alameda County is telling NPPs to get a "crossover" ballot to vote for a Democratic Presidential candidate.

That may just be the term they're using for a ballot different than your party affiliation.
+16 # amycbobh 2016-06-01 22:50
If you haven't arranged to get a mail-in ballot it's poor planning or you like to stand in lines. GO to the polling place with the phone number of YOUR Registrar of Voters written on your cuff and have your cell phone with you. When you get through to the ROV, demand to speak with the Registrar herself. Politely of course. Have hope.
+36 # Blackjack 2016-06-01 22:50
HRC is proving daily that she will do anything to win.
+11 # Bruce Gruber 2016-06-02 07:00
She 'who would be coronated' proves daily that the MACHINE frothing to have a symbolic pastie on the Presidency is commanding every political form of immorality and criminality imaginable in this nominating AND electoral process.

From Middle-East neo-con wars and Semitic apartheid to economic and financial empire maintenance, from environmental, justice, and petrochemical exploitation to mouthings of "support" and "stances", the Clinton MACHINE continuously spews inconsequential , complicated, redefinable propaganda. The 'accomplishment s' inevitably result in 'unintended' consequences - dismissed in pre-criticisms - as fantasies.

Hillary is running against the 'straw man' of the 'evil, misogynist, implied racist. narcissist-Dona ld Trump'. It seems the only THING she is FOR, his defeat.

Not climate change, not effective education, not fair, democratic, fully participatory elections and campaigning, not serious infrastructure investment, not universal healthcare or a secure living wage, not universal peace ... instead, she decries the need for someone -"HERSELF"- to be the WOMAN-IN-CHARGE , President of 'knowing-how-to -get-"things"-d one' ... none of which have been accomplished through the alleged "VAST" experience of being the brains behind the 'testicles' of those she has 'advised'.

Give me a break! Her well-financed PR campaign of (corporate) proclaimed exceptionalism "purrs" with agreement only of 'all things' focus-tested.
-26 # rocback 2016-06-02 11:09
This is the place where a policy-oriented Washington commentator like myself is supposed to offer Bernie Sanders supporters some sort of olive branch. For example, I could point out that he has highlighted some real issues. I am angry about money in politics, too. I believe that income inequality is a problem, too. I think the safety net needs strengthening, too. In other words, I am supposed to indicate that I get why Sanders has a movement.

But the truth is that Sanders does not deserve a movement, and his losing campaign does not deserve unusual deference and concessions. His tale about American oligarchy is simplistic, his policy proposals are shallow, his rejection of political reality is absurd, his self-righteousn ess and stubbornness are unbecoming. And, yes, he has lost. Here are some simple points worth repeating:
-28 # rocback 2016-06-02 11:10
• Sanders’s path to the Democratic presidential nomination is essentially nonexistent. His only hope rests on convincing Democratic “superdelegates ,” nearly all of whom back Hillary Clinton, to swing his way. They will not do that. It is incoherent for Sanders to ask them to do so, given that he has attacked superdelegates as non-democratic actors in the nominating process and that Clinton will almost certainly end the cycle with more votes and more pledged delegates. It is also staggeringly arrogant that Sanders would think that superdelegates, the Democratic “establishment” sorts that he has spent the whole campaign cartoonishly attacking as tools of Wall Street, would be open to his entreaties.

• It is politically reasonable for the superdelegates to stick with Clinton. The poll numbers Sanders cites to argue that he would be a stronger nominee do not reflect the impressions voters would have after the Republicans engaged in a sustained anti-Sanders assault — the sort of thing Clinton has endured for decades. Polling shows that Sanders does not, in fact, do unusually well among true independents and that many of these crucial swing voters have not formed an opinion of him.
+18 # Radscal 2016-06-02 13:03
"Policy-orienta ted?"


HRC has been on both sides of every major policy issue throughout her life. Sometimes switching back and forth and back again.

Lee Camp observes that Hillary Clinton’s consistently firm stand on both sides of most every issue requires us to coin a new term to define her stance on any given issue:


As in, she was forgainst it before she was Forposed to it.
+4 # economagic 2016-06-02 16:15
I recall that other Democratic candidates have been accused of similar doings, identical in some cases.
+5 # Radscal 2016-06-02 21:27
Don't you think HRC carry's flip-flopping to new heights?

I can't think of a single policy issue she has has consistently stated and carried out. That is, she's pretty consistent in things she doesn't want to admit, especially on the campaign trail. But she never has publicly said, "I like war," or "Vote for me and I'll give your life savings to Wall Street."
+21 # lark3650 2016-06-02 07:32
They have a name for people who stay in the shadows and dedicate their lives to coming up with dirty tricks to betray the American people....COWAR DS.
Quoting Blackjack:
HRC is proving daily that she will do anything to win.

Hillary is a politician. She will do or say anything to get the people to do something for her. Bernie Sanders is a statesman. There is a difference. Bernie will do everything he can to do something for the people.
-24 # rocback 2016-06-02 12:37
Hillary had a real job before she became a polititian. Bernie did not. His first steady job wasn't until he was 40 years old and became mayor and has been on the public payroll ever since.
+9 # newell 2016-06-02 13:57
Maybe that's why he has an independent mind--he wan't indoctrinated by Harvard and the 1%.--"our betters"
-8 # rocback 2016-06-04 13:25
He is a socialist so maybe he is expecting that at the convention they will "redistribute" the delegates from the winner to the loser. :-)
+3 # Cassandra2012 2016-06-05 15:59
Quoting rocback:
He is a socialist so maybe he is expecting that at the convention they will "redistribute" the delegates from the winner to the loser. :-)

Go back to school. dear and learn what Democratic Socialism is (Hint: it ain't 'Communism' as believed by mindless 1950s McCarthyites.)

If you do not like Democratic Socialism then be prepared to give up everything from Public Libraries, bridges and roads, firefighters, Medicare, Social Security, the Post Office [still better than UPS], the military, Veterans Administration, the ACA (however corrupted by the insurance middlemen) , publlc education, etc. etc.
Stop pulling these ugly lowdown Teapugnican tactics of trying to label Bernie to alarm the unwashed, and uneducated....
This is the Hillary tactic par excellence – obfuscate in order to win, 'by hook or by crook.'
Then take a trip to the Eurozone and see for yourself how their standard of living has surpassed ours in the US!
+1 # Radscal 2016-06-05 20:44
HRC did have a job back in the 1970s. She sat on the Board of Walmart at the same time that she worked for their corporate defense firm.

BTW: That is a conflict of interest that the American Bar Association specifies as unethical.
+24 # banichi 2016-06-01 23:15
This is not the first article or attention paid to this issue. 10 days ago on my FB threads on my phone, the same information was being given out. So it is being spread as widely as we can get it out there.

So THANKS! Greg and Dennis - Let's get the vote out, make it count!
+4 # OtherJC 2016-06-02 00:41
Who's feeding you MISinformaton? (1) California is sooo not Florida. In my Precinct Training, I sat next to a guy who - a former poll worker - who moved to Claremont. He commented, "Holy @#$%, I can't believe this is so more organized & voter-friendly than Florida. (2) In Los Angeles, American Independent Party voters have their own ballots. (3 )In Los Angeles, No Party Preference voters, not to be confused with the American Independent Party, have their own stand-alone ballots or "Crossover" ballots, which allow them vote Democrat, Libertarian or American Independent. (4) I dunno about Orange County, but Provisional Ballots ARE counted in L.A. Really!
+6 # Radscal 2016-06-02 13:12
Please provide citation for provisional ballots all being counted in CA.

In every other State, they are set aside to be "verified," which in almost all cases means they're tossed out.

Provisional Ballots in CA are likely to be tossed out, too.
+22 # treespeaker 2016-06-02 01:30
Another case of voter fraud against Bernie Sanders. He is the only honest person in the race and he is getting the shaft again from the Democratic party who are becoming very dishonest, just like the evil republican party. If the Democrats did not cheat Bernie would win hands down. If Hillary gets the nomination she will loose to t-RUMP and the Demos will get their karma come due (what you sow is what you reap).
If Hillary really wants to save her country she must bow out of the race. It is the only fair, honest way to go.
+28 # librarian1984 2016-06-02 01:58
It should be pretty obvious by now that if it's the honest thing to do, it's the last option Hillary Clinton would consider.
+27 # rural oregon progressive 2016-06-02 03:00
Honesty be damned... "I am fully cooperating", except "I refuse to be questioned or participate in any way to determine the truth". In fact, many Clinton champions and apologists continue to scream how dishonest and "mean" Bernie is in his campaign. However, Sanders has never gone after the easy target of Hillary's lies and obfuscation regarding the illegality of her private server and her determination to keep her emails from the public record. Instead, Bernie stuck to the issues, and gets lambasted and accused of hitting below the belt. Hillary's campaign may win out, but clearly she is panicked. Unfortunately, the establishment continues to be in her corner regardless of the truth of her utter lack of truthfulness. We are a damned people if she prevails. Trump or Clinton, we are all screwed. It is sickening how most media are soft-selling the spin on the reality of the state of the primaries (always including super delegates in 'committed' columns) and insisting the inevitable Hillary to be the victor... Even NPR has completely bought into the MSM narrative, Not another dime to them or any other DNC operative. As of this moment, the only Senator I support (beyond Bernie) is Jeff Merkley (the only Senator to openly endorse Bernie)... Fortunately, there remain people of the House that have supported Sanders... And those are the people we will give our support to. The rest can go to Hell. I suggest that we all resign the Democratic party.
-23 # rocback 2016-06-02 12:39
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
+6 # Billy Bob 2016-06-02 21:09
You hear that phrase a lot, don't you?
+17 # rural oregon progressive 2016-06-02 03:09
(continued) If enough of us follow through and resign the democratic party, we might be able to shrink it enough to create a real "progressive party". Enough of this bull shit. We have been abandoned by the party, and it is only fitting that we abandon it. Our party has become a shadow of its former self, and is beholden to the same monied interests as the Repubs. The machine owns us. It is time to rage against the machine and reclaim our birthright. (I was raised in a conservative household... who woudda thunk that I'd become an anarchist?!?)
+9 # futhark 2016-06-02 06:05
This is exactly why I changed my registration from Democratic to Green several years ago. I hoped to send a message to the Democratic Party that the direction in which they were headed would not secure their future political popularity or success. Senator Sanders tempted me back into the Democratic fold, but I'll happily bolt again if he is denied the nomination by the kind of crooked machinations we are now witnessing.
-25 # rocback 2016-06-02 08:43
• A Clinton nomination would be wholly legitimate. Sanders zealot Seth Abramson writes, “While not rigged, there is no question that the Democratic Party’s primary process — which uses superdelegates to create an appearance of pre-election electoral inevitability and closed primaries and onerous registration requirements to exclude many new, independent, and party-switching voters — has dramatically favored Mrs. Clinton.” This is nonsense, considering that Sanders has benefited from weird, anti-democratic quirks of the nominating process. FiveThirtyEight ran the numbers and found that “Clinton has been hurt at least as much by caucuses as Sanders has been hurt by closed primaries.”
-24 # rocback 2016-06-02 08:44
So, enough with the reality-denial. Enough with the sanctimony. Enough with the attitude that only Sanders’s agenda counts. Enough with the dream that his movement is broader and more powerful than it has proved to be at the ballot box. Enough with the paranoid conspiracy theorizing, the lazy attacks on the “establishment, ” the platitudes about the right to health care and the right to free college without realistic plans to realize them, the delegitimizatio n of those who disagree, the scorning of practicality, the outrageous negativity about the state of the country and the simplistic narrative of evil 1 percenters who are to blame for everything that is wrong. Enough with the excuses for half-baked policy proposals (It is the direction, not the specifics, that matter!). Enough with the “political revolution.”

Berners can accept reality or sink deeper into delusion. Only one of these options would be good for them and good for the country.
+7 # Billy Bob 2016-06-02 20:19
"Denial" is a good word for anyone who thinks that by posting 300 times a day, he can undo the comments of 300 individuals who don't buy into his bullshit.

Even if every other comment on these threads is written by you (along with shades, and lights), the 3 of you are doing a wonderful job of encouraging literally hundreds of us to get out and convince our friends to fight your agenda.
-17 # sayenitnow 2016-06-02 22:01
Thank you rocback for your patience with the Bernie zealots who are incapable of looking at facts. A lack of facts in their proposed policies is no problem in the Bernie world of non-reality. This is why he along with his surrogates and supporters shout out their conspiracies... including
that the Democratic Party establishment has been stealing Bernie's votes and the primary and giving it to Hillary Clinton. Again thank you for your factual and sane posts, they are a breath of fresh air on this website / blog.
-10 # rocback 2016-06-03 19:37
Thanks sayenitnow. My hobby is exposing hypocrites.
0 # rural oregon progressive 2017-11-03 04:24
Fast Froward to November 2017... Guess what Rockjam and sayenthelienow: We "conspiracy theorists" are being proven right... Hillary ran the DNC (as admitted to by former head of the DNC Donna Brazile)... The Berners were right and the shades, lights, rockbacks sayenitnows and especially ericlipps were wrong... oh so wrong! We have been vindicated, and your loser of a candidate Hillary is in hiding! So sad that what I just wrote will be likely read by nobody since this thread is well over a year old. It gives me no pleasure to say WE TOLD YOU SO! But, then, I lie... It gives me the greatest pleasure :)
0 # Cassandra2012 2016-06-05 16:01
+6 # futhark 2016-06-02 02:03
It looks like I may have done the right thing in changing my registration from Green to Democrat this year after all and voting by absentee ballot, too. The jungle "top two" primary system we've had for the past couple of elections has a lot of people confused about for which candidates they are allowed to cast votes. The greater the confusion, the more opportunities exist for those who would abuse the system. I advocate going back to the older system in which each party votes to nominate its own candidates. Being independent is fine except when it causes such chaos.
+10 # Radscal 2016-06-02 14:13
Closed Primaries will not produce better candidates. They produce more partisan candidates.

Open Primaries (which many of us Californians thought we'd voted for in 2010) are more likely to produce candidates who will appeal to the General Election electorate.
+6 # CL38 2016-06-02 04:24
Isn't there something to be done legally about this? What's happened to other state investigations, does anyone know?
+5 # Radscal 2016-06-02 14:14
In most of the challenges to the Democratic Primary that I've read about, there would be no resolution until after the general election.

Scary, eh?
-23 # ericlipps 2016-06-02 04:37
Aaaaaand here we go again.

Brace yourselves. If Hillary wins, Sanders supporters will (again) scream "Fraud!" If Sanders wins but Clinton wins enough delegates to put her over the top, Sandersites will ramp up their scheming to flip superdelegates- -the superdelegates whose very existence they regard as fraudulent AS LONG AS THEY SUPPORT CLINTON but would accept if they went for Bernie instead.

Personally, I'm amazed (and suspicious) that we now hear reports that Sanders is ahead among Hispanics, considering that he's done poorly among them everywhere else up to now. I'd like to know the reason for the shift (assuming it's real).
+33 # GreenBee 2016-06-02 05:15
Sanders has consistently improved his standing over time with all groups as people get to hear more from him. This is why he does so much better than HRC in caucus states.
-21 # rocback 2016-06-02 11:16
That's because he has been ignored. Over $100 million has been spent by super PACs against Clinton and not a penny against Sanders. Hillary has been attacked by Fox
News", hate radio, Republicans and the right wing echo chamber for 30 years. Bernie has been ignored. Hillary has been "investigated" by 9 GOP House committees and 11 hours of cross-examinati on by GOP prosecutors and answered every question they could think of all for the express purpose of "bringing down her poll numbers" according to the GOP majority head. Bernie has been ignored.
+13 # A_Har 2016-06-02 07:55
Quoting ericlipps:
Aaaaaand here we go again.

Brace yourselves. If Hillary wins, Sanders supporters will (again) scream "Fraud!"

No matter WHAT she does, you support her. HRC herself is a FRAUD. It seems that NO amount of evidence presented will move you from your position. This is what makes you a flack and a shill for HRC, and your comments here then *get no traction.*

Another reality check:

Hillary Clinton lying for 13 minutes straight.
-13 # 2016-06-02 06:27
Palast is correct on the facts in this article but he presents no evidence that poll workers have actually been told to provide provisional ballots. Can we please see some written evidence or at least have the names of the poll workers and people who issued such orders?

Given the penchant for enthusiastic supporters to lie for political advantage (candidates themselves are seldom involved in such schemes), there I nothing in this article to convince me that this rumor was not started by Bernie fans to make Clinton look bad.

I support neither Clinton nor Sanders but I do document electoral fraud and this story is too vague to be considered fraud. More information is definitely required.

Lee Nason
New Bedford, Massachusetts
+13 # alwynlhoir 2016-06-02 12:07
Palast is correct on the facts in this article but he presents no evidence that poll workers have actually been told to provide provisional ballots. Can we please see some written evidence or at least have the names of the poll workers and people who issued such orders?

Given the penchant for enthusiastic supporters to lie for political advantage (candidates themselves are seldom involved in such schemes), there I nothing in this article to convince me that this rumor was not started by Bernie fans to make Clinton look bad.

I support neither Clinton nor Sanders but I do document electoral fraud and this story is too vague to be considered fraud. More information is definitely required.

Lee Nason
New Bedford, Massachusetts

I was counseled by workers in the office of the Secretary of State in CAlifornia to ask for a provisional ballot if i was NPP. That's pretty definite.
+7 # economagic 2016-06-02 16:19
Thanks for the earwitness testimony. Unfortunately but as usual, Ms. Nason simply does not know what she is talking about.
+10 # jimmyjames 2016-06-02 06:45
MSNBC is in on the stop Bernie game:
+8 # Radscal 2016-06-02 14:20
Isn't that amazing?

Chris Matthews actually said that NBC knew that (fraudulently) announcing a winner before polls close in CA will suppress the vote. But he asked Sanders' campaign manager, Jeff Weaver if he thought it would suppress Hillary or Bernie voters most!

Then when Weaver tried to once again explain that it's impossible for either candidate to have 2382 pledged delegates, Matthews cuts him off saying "I don't want to get into that discussion."

What a tool.
+1 # Catbill 2016-06-05 13:03
How is that acceptable?
+1 # Radscal 2016-06-05 15:16
It shouldn't be.

Right this minute, MSDNC is denouncing Sanders, preparing to declare HRC the winner TODAY. They have Congressman Ford lying that Sanders never even caucused with the Democrats, and others ranting about how egotistical and selfish he is for stating the simple fact that NO ONE HAS WON yet.

Un-pledged delegates do not vote until July 25.
+13 # xeloi 2016-06-02 07:08
There's been another trick going on in CA. They been setting people who have been registered, active Democrats for years as "inactive", without the warning letter they are supposed to send. So if you didn't check online to make sure you were "active", you may not be allowed to vote. It happened to my girlfriend and her stepmother, who is a freaking delegate. Seems likely that they were targeting specific communities that are Bernie-leaning. ..
-10 # bienhhoaalum72 2016-06-02 09:34
You are making this claim prior to the CA election date. Where were your girlfriend and stepmother voting at? Had they moved recently, had they changed party affiliation? When was the last time they actually voted? With the closeness of Hillary and Bernie currently, to say a community is "Bernie Leaning" is absurd.
If they received a Voter information guide, then they are registered to vote. You can check this online. If you have a problem call your local registrar of Voters, they can handle these situations.
+7 # Radscal 2016-06-02 14:25
Yep. It happened to me, but since I'd read about that happening in other States, I checked, and was able to get re-listed in time.

I've been a registered Democrat in CA since the 1980s, and have voted in all except one election (an odd one added at an unusual time). I'd even already gotten my notice that my Absentee Ballot was coming, so I must have been delisted after that. [edit. that notice may not have said it was a "Democratic" ballot that was coming. They may have planned to send me one without the Democratic Presidential candidates on it.]

I think HRC is getting lists of Bernie supporters from the DNC mailing lists, which had firewall breeches several times.

It could also be that Google or Facebook are providing info from social media and web searches. Google worked with HRC to provide info on Syrians who were loyal to Assad so the "moderate rebels" could target them.
+12 # RMDC 2016-06-02 09:00
The Clinton controlled democratic party is just as corrupt as the Bush/Rove controlled republican party. In fact, they are closely connected, as in two cheeks of the same ass.

Vote tampering and voter suppression is as American as dog shit. All party elites want the smallest turnout of voters they can get. They want their stalwarts to turn out to vote and everyone else will be banned. That is how they define "democracy."
-1 # economagic 2016-06-02 09:28
Although cartoonist Keith "Keef" Knight insists that the US doesn't hold a candle to France in the category of LITERAL dog shit. Otherwise . . ., just as any business leader who talks about wanting more competition.
-2 # bienhhoaalum72 2016-06-02 09:27
Lets put this crap to rest.
First, here are the Voting Categories in the California Primary on June 7th:
Democrat/Non Partisan
Non Partisan
American Independent
Peace and Freedom

If you are registered as Non Partisan you will be given a choice of ballots:
Non Partisan (No presidential Candidates)
Non Partisan Democratic - (Presidential Candidates for Democratic party only)
Non Partisan American Independent (Presidential candidate for the American Independent party only)
Non Partisan Libertarian (Presidential candidate for the Libertarian party only)

None of these are "Placebo" ballots Whichever you select WILL be counted. IF you get the wrong ballot you are more than welcome to return to the welcome table and surrender it for another.

Poll workers will be dealing with 8 different ballots in up to 5 different languages. Please be patient with them. No poll worker will intentionally give you a ballot you don't want, nor will they force you to use a Provisional ballot if you are registered in that precinct, and in the party you are requesting a ballot for.

I've been a Precinct Inspector for five years and have never seen any of the scenarios that articles such as this are attempting to present.
Provisional ballots are for those whose registration information is not available at the poll the person is voting at. All are reviewed and ALL legal ballots are counted.
+6 # EternalTruth 2016-06-02 10:40
Are you a poll worker in Orange County? If not, how can you presume to know what those workers are being instructed to do?
-15 # rocback 2016-06-02 11:19
Shhh, bienhhoaalum. Your facts don't fit the alternate reality that exists here. It will be rejected because of confirmation bias. Let them live in their own little alternative universe and bemoan their mis perceived slight in life.
+8 # Radscal 2016-06-02 14:34
CA DOES HAVE Provisional Ballots," which Greg calls "Placebo Ballots" because most are never counted.

From the CA Secretary of State Office:

"Voting in the June 7, 2016, Presidential Primary Election

"An NPP voter will receive a non-partisan ballot, which will have no presidential candidates listed."

"However, upon request, an NPP voter can instead vote the presidential ballot of the following parties:

American Independent Party
Democratic Party
Libertarian Party"

But the issue here is that some poll workers are being trained to automatically give NPPs a "Provisional Ballot."

From the CA SOS on Provisional Ballots:

"What Happens After You Cast a Provisional Ballot?"

"Your provisional ballot will be counted after elections officials have confirmed that you are registered to vote in that county and you did not already vote in that election."

In earlier states, most provisional ballots were NOT COUNTED.

So the point remains: DO NOT accept a Provisional Ballot.
-18 # sayenitnow 2016-06-02 11:28
Lets ask all the Sanders supporters
why the most honest, transparent, Washington "outsider" has yet to release
more than one year of his taxes ...Ask yourselves What Is He Hiding ??? He has been less than honest about delegate math, and hypocritical when it comes to super delegates...ok if it helps him. Get Real Here...Bernie is a long time Politician and now could be a spoiler...
The results of the 2016 election Matters.
-6 # rocback 2016-06-03 12:42
He hasn't even released his entire return for that one year like Hillary has for the last 33 years. Bernie only released a summary.
+12 # alwynlhoir 2016-06-02 12:06
In california, they have a poorly worded question when you register to vote electronically. If you say yes, they put you on permanent mail. Then they send you the NPP Ballot, which has no Bernie on it. I called the Secretary of State's office in Sacramento to ask what i could do; they are counseling people to get a provisional ballot! First person, yall!
-8 # Robbee 2016-06-02 15:06
trudat! - # Ken Halt 2016-06-01 19:26
... Bernie Sanders is (creating) a political revolution and it won't go away in Nov, whatever happens between now and then ... transform(ing our) banana republic US into a functioning democracy.

- go bernie! and go dem! - it disserves our potential democracy to give up on our dem party! that we need to transform to our more progressive ends! - meanwhile, in november, the alternative to a dem! - whether bernie or hill! is rump!

lie! - # Radscal 2016-05-19 19:12
"The only wasted vote is the one cast for a candidate you don't want."

- trudat! - the only wasted vote is the one not cast for the candidate, the dem, with the only chance to beat the candidate who promises - and is capable, as prez, of delivering on his reactionary promises, to -

1) torture prisoners;
2) kill spouses and children of enemies whom our law says he names;
3) curb the press;
4) on his first day in office, tear-up the iran treaty (that prevents iran from building nukes!);
5) deport 11 million illegals;
6) build a wall clear across mexico;
7) make mexico pay for it (which takes invading and occupying mexico!)
8) nominate to scotus, a "justice", or 3, just like scalia!
10) cut income taxes, for the rich only, almost in half!
+10 # Anarchist 23 2016-06-02 15:27
As Joe Stalin said, and to paraphrase it: 'It's not who votes that counts; it's who counts the votes.' We are now a Third World Banana Republic...with out the bananas....
0 # economagic 2016-06-02 16:23
Can you document the quote to Stalin? Last time I tried it was attributed to Boss Tweed with slightly different wording.
-9 # Robbee 2016-06-02 15:28
dump rump, pt. 2

11) register and ground muslims from air travel! and
12) abolish our consumer financial protection bureau!

pants on fire! half-truth! -
# Radscal 2016-05-19 19:12
"If the DNC denies Sanders their nomination, it will be THEM who help elect Drumpf."

first - it is not certain that bernie will beat rump! that's why we vote! to find out who wins! - however great polls look now! alot more! good and bad! will happen by november! - what this means is that there is also no guarantee that if the DNC denies *hill* their nomination, it will *not* be THEM who helped elect Drumpf!

next, the part that may be true, but, if it is, certainly only part true! - "If the DNC denies Sanders their nomination, it will be THEM who *HELP* elect Drumpf." - IN ADDITION TO the DNC, THOSE WHO FAIL TO VOTE DEM WILL ALSO HELP TO ELECT RUMP!

rad, you are a liar! you and guy are rump trojans! you need to stop peddling your rump garbage here! begone trolls! - go dem!

- to be clear! - nothing would make me happier than bernie winning the dem popular vote! and being dem nominated for prez! - in order to vote for bernie in my state! - i registered as dem! - bernie won! my state! - go bernie! - MASSIVELY win june 7th!

never forget tho! - bernie's political revolution is about us! - public funding, only! of federal, state and local elections!

- to be clear! - 1) go public funding! 2) go progressive! 3) go dem! 4) go bernie!
-7 # Robbee 2016-06-02 15:45
there will be SOME conservatives! - shocking to some here! but true! - who support public funding!!! - MANY progressive-ind ependents like me! - regardless of who wins the prez! even bernie! - we always need to follow bernie! - to lead us to our/BERNIE'S promised land! - democracy right here in america!
overthrow plutocracy! - starting right here! with bernie! - right now!
-7 # Robbee 2016-06-02 15:49
lie! - # grandlakeguy 2016-05-30 13:13
The green party could actually win with Bernie!

- sanders, rump and hill would all pick-off various states - assuring that none of them won a majority of the electoral college - throwing the election into our house of repugs - whereby rump's win would be assured!

read the 12th amendment! you do the math! - a 3-way race assures rump victory! - sorry!

guy, you can't be stupid enough to accidentally promote a rump presidency! - that means you are a liar! you are a rump trojan! - you need to stop peddling your rump garbage here! begone troll! - go dem!
-3 # rocback 2016-06-03 19:39
Hillary kicked Trumps ass yesterday. What happened to the "counter puncher". He is hiding.
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0 # Catbill 2016-06-05 12:53
What is the necessity for provisional ballots? Are they needed at all?
0 # Radscal 2016-06-05 15:30
Sure. There could be a few people who'd moved recently, for instance,, and the election rolls didn't reflect it.

But they should be very rarely needed, and traditionally have been.

Suddenly now, they are being issued in huge numbers. In King County, NY, 1/3 of all voters were given Provisional Ballots, and 75% of them were tossed out!

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