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Reich writes: "Donald Trump must immediately release his tax returns for public scrutiny. There's no excuse to keep hiding this information from the public."

Robert Reich. (photo: unknown)
Robert Reich. (photo: unknown)


Donald Trump Must Release His Tax Returns

By Robert Reich, Robert Reich's Facebook Page

25 May 16

 

onald Trump is still refusing to release his tax returns, claiming that “there’s nothing to learn from them.” But voters deserve to decide that on their own. In the interest of a transparency and a fully informed electorate, Donald Trump must immediately release his tax returns for public scrutiny. There's no excuse to keep hiding this information from the public. Trump wants to conduct the people’s business from our nation's highest office -- so we deserve to see how he’s conducted his private business too.

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have already released their tax returns, and Donald Trump is the only candidate left in the race who's holding out. Please join me in signing this petition:

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+56 # danireland46 2016-05-25 09:20
F. Scott Fitzgerald in his classic, The Great Gatsby, says simply "The rich are not like us." This simple sentence is the essence of people like Trump. They've been separated from the life experiences of the common man, and vaccinated against the pain of ordinary life by virtue of their wealth. They get what they want while we have trouble getting what we need. They do what they want, while we dream about that possibility. Our dreams keep us going, they don't understand dreamers.

Unfortunately, dreams are all we have, so we read about "The Secret" and we think that if we believe hard enough, if we vibrate in harmony with the rich, we can become rich. We've seen Trump stomp all over common competitors in his reality show and we think, "He doesn't sound any smarter than me, I could be him." So we accept him as a model and we're willing to forgive his foibles, including weak excuses about not releasing his tax returns.

Wake up people; this isn't Oz and the guy behind that curtain isn't God, it's a poor little rich boy who never grew up.
 
 
+15 # tingletlc 2016-05-25 09:40
Quoting danireland46:
F. Scott Fitzgerald in his classic, The Great Gatsby, says simply "The rich are not like us."

Not unless you have a page citation. I think you're referring to a maybe apocryphal anecdote about a conversation between Fitzgerald and Hemingway, in whose canonical version Scott says something like "The rich are different from us" and Ernest replies "Yeah, they have more money."
 
 
+17 # rocback 2016-05-25 11:22
Tax returns expose a lot of things like:
1. How aggressive bordering on illegal were you in taking deductions
2. What nefarious people were on your payroll who you gave 1099's to
3. Whether you gave a fair share to charities.
4. How did you cheat by using IRA's for different levels of stock ownership like when we foudn out Romney had over $100 million in his IRA
5. Who did you give money to like when it showed Obama giving so much to Jeremiah Wright
6. The actual income from the assets Trump claimed in his federal disclosure ( He estimated his "brand name of Trump was worth $3 billion whereas Forbes said it was only $125 million)
7. Clinton's whitewater land deals got a lot of scrutiny including her gain of $100,000 on cattle futures

Every President since Nixon who by the way was under audit at the time has released their returns. What is he hiding?
 
 
+17 # newell 2016-05-25 12:44
Yes "Tax returns expose a lot of things like" : Hillary's income was 28 million. Bernie's income was 200 thousand.
 
 
-9 # rocback 2016-05-25 13:14
Sanders released the least amount of tax returns than any presidential nominee in history except Trump. A single year and only a summary.

He released only the summary page of your 2014 tax returns. Hillary Clinton has posted on her website the last eight years of her personal returns, all of the returns.
 
 
-7 # rocback 2016-05-25 13:15
and she released another 33 years before that.
 
 
-1 # Nominae 2016-05-25 23:52
Quoting rocback:
and she released another 33 years before that.

Totally "hunky-groovy" *SOUNDING, crockback, until one's inner bullshit detector comes screaming to life on high alert with the reminder that in CLINTON'S TAX BRACKET people *HIRE Accountants who make their tax returns look like a Michaelangelo, and to READ like Shakespeare - all FICTION, mind you, but just breathtakingly *BEAUTIFULLY PUT*.

In short, crocback, they HIRE PROFESSIONAL LIARS to take care of their tax returns.

*YOU know about professional liars, don't you crocback ? As close to an actual "profession" as you will *EVER come !

So great gratitude for the latest and predictably vacuous installment in your long line of incessant "NO-POINT-THERE " Points !

When one is paid by the hour, however, I realize that about 75% of the bilge is *GOING to be mindless "Filler Material" and the remaining 25% is going to be rote REPETITON of the *FIRST mindless 75% !

Kudos, crockback, you are *dead *on schedule ! ;-D
_
 
 
0 # Nominae 2016-05-26 00:01
Quoting tingletlc:
"The rich are different from us" and Ernest replies "Yeah, they have more money."

Perhaps both stories are true, but danireland46 is *unassailably correct in his attribution to F. Scott *IN "Gatsby" wherein I first read the quote myself, and I have never *heard of your story regarding the two authors.

Actual Page citations are also recoverable to researchers *challenging danireland's citation.
_
 
 
0 # narguimbau 2016-05-28 22:48
I think I agree with the Hemingway caveat. There are "filthy rich" people who try to prove their value as human beings by separating themselves from their wealth and demonstrating that they have value without it. They usually fail because people won't allow them to escape from their advantages. Wealthy people often spend their lives trying to escape from or hide from their inherent limitations. There's an article on line somewhere about Trump's penis, which if it is true says all that needs to be said about him.
 
 
+22 # guomashi 2016-05-25 09:23
There is nothing to learn from Trump's tax returns.
If he paid any taxes that would be a miracle.
We already know the tax system is rigged.
Is anyone surprised that he would take advantage of it?
Is there anyone who does not take advantage of deductions on their own taxes?

Another smoke screen.
Reform the system.
I suggest a compromise: a flat tax on all gross income over 1,000,000$.
Then the republicans can have their flat tax and we can have a budget.
 
 
+7 # PhilO 2016-05-25 10:00
I would be willing to bet that the only surprise in his returns will be that there's no surprise. The Donald is merely setting up the press so that he can say, 'I told ya so', and further undermine the public trust in the 'liberal media'.
 
 
-16 # Barbara K 2016-05-25 11:50
guomashi: Where you put your $sign shows you are not an American, so why are you trying to give us Americans advice? Just curious.



..
 
 
-7 # rocback 2016-05-25 11:59
more Trump outsourcing. Maybe where he gets his ties made. :-)
 
 
+7 # dbrize 2016-05-25 12:07
Quoting rocback:
more Trump outsourcing. Maybe where he gets his ties made. :-)


And maybe "Hill" get those pantsuits form the same place. :-)
 
 
0 # Nominae 2016-05-26 00:06
Quoting rocback:
more Trump outsourcing. Maybe where he gets his ties made. :-)

Perhaps those Trolling for the Trumpinator don't have access to that Cool Million that Hillary Ponied up to pay you pathetic "Correct The Record" Trolls. The fact that you sputter and spew does not in any sense mean that you EARN your spiffy income ! ;-D
_
 
 
+13 # dbrize 2016-05-25 12:06
Quoting Barbara K:
guomashi: Where you put your $sign shows you are not an American, so why are you trying to give us Americans advice? Just curious.



..


I don't know where the hell he's from but we sure have been giving the rest of the world plenty of advice. Our current constitutional scholar is on an "advisory tour" at this time.

You resent a bit of push back do you? How jingo of you.
 
 
+12 # guomashi 2016-05-25 13:53
Quoting Barbara K:
guomashi: Where you put your $sign shows you are not an American, so why are you trying to give us Americans advice? Just curious.
..


i am an american.
 
 
+12 # jsluka 2016-05-25 15:04
Dear Goumashi, my fellow American - I apologize on behalf of the ugly and ignorant BarbaraK.
 
 
+13 # jsluka 2016-05-25 15:01
Barbara K - I think that is a typical "ugly (or stupid) American" comment. "No one can tell us anything, because we know everything" and "America is exceptional (better than everyone else)" stupid kind of remark. You are deeply ignorant.
 
 
-11 # rocback 2016-05-25 15:19
I think any American would resent being told how to vote by a foreigner.

And this guy wants to excuse Trump for hiding his tax returns.

He is clearly a Trump Trojan Horse and despite his claim he may even be outsourced.

Worse, he currently has 10 thumbs up for excusing Trump hiding his tax returns. I have been saying there are a lot of Trump Trojan Horses here.
 
 
+1 # Nominae 2016-05-26 00:11
Quoting rocback:
I think any American would resent being told how to vote by a foreigner.

Yeah, like some *Nimrod Clintonista from the paid Hillary Troll brigade !

So, you ARE sensitive, eh, crocback ?

"Physician, heal Thyself" ! ;-D
_
 
 
+7 # SMoonz 2016-05-25 22:16
Xenophobe. That's what you are.
Barbara, you have shown your true colors once again. With that kind of rhetoric you sound closer to Donald "Make AmeriKKKa Great Again" Trump than a liberal. This is straight up xenophobia and nationalism that borders on unAmerican.
Shutting down guomashi's right to free speech and having an opinion because someone doesn't fit your version of an American? Pathetic.
 
 
+8 # Radscal 2016-05-25 19:53
For months, Drumpf said he was working on releasing his tax returns. Now, he says he won't.

Drumpf is fooling some working-class people to support him and were they to see how much he really makes and how little tax he really pays, chances are some would turn on him... Probably about the same ratio as Hill supporters who would turn on her once they saw the transcripts, but maybe enough to make a difference.

Mostly though, both would affect the views of those who don't already fully-back those candidates.
 
 
+3 # economagic 2016-05-25 09:27
Points of rhetoric:

"Donald Trump must immediately release his tax returns for public scrutiny. There's no excuse to keep hiding this information from the public."

The second sentence is arguably a true statement based on common principle of ethics and politics. But most statements that something "must" happen are little more than wishes except in such realms as mathematical proof.
 
 
+2 # dbrize 2016-05-25 09:48
Quoting economagic:
Points of rhetoric:

"Donald Trump must immediately release his tax returns for public scrutiny. There's no excuse to keep hiding this information from the public."

The second sentence is arguably a true statement based on common principle of ethics and politics. But most statements that something "must" happen are little more than wishes except in such realms as mathematical proof.


Agree. And when folks like Reich who is perceived as another inside the beltway, well connected pamphleteer, come out with the "must do" lists, they merely play into Trumps hand.

Anytime Trump appears to be sticking it to the beltway crowd his positives go up.
 
 
-4 # rocback 2016-05-25 15:20
dbrize, you sure do defend Trump a lot. Hmmm.....
 
 
+1 # dbrize 2016-05-25 16:24
Quoting rocback:
dbrize, you sure do defend Trump a lot. Hmmm.....


I know this is a bit complex for you but pointing out why someone as goofy as Trump is about to kick your ass is my service to you.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong."

H.L. Mencken
 
 
+3 # Nominae 2016-05-26 00:14
Quoting dbrize:

I know this is a bit complex for you but pointing out why someone as goofy as Trump is about to kick your ass is my service to you.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong."

H.L. Mencken

Rock OUT dbrize, Rock *OUT !! ;-D
_
 
 
+10 # tedrey 2016-05-25 11:58
In common (not mathematical) parlance, phrases like 'you must clean your room", "you must not run a red light", "you must turn in your paper on time", are understood as followed by "or you won't like the consequences."
 
 
+37 # Rcomm 2016-05-25 10:03
Trump is on record, several times, for demanding Barack Obama show his birth certificate.

It's time the GOP demand Trump release his tax returns.
 
 
+10 # ericlipps 2016-05-25 17:54
Quoting Rcomm:
Trump is on record, several times, for demanding Barack Obama show his birth certificate.

It's time the GOP demand Trump release his tax returns.

The difference being that Obama really HAS released his birth certificate, but the Rump and the "birthers" to whom he's pandering insist it's fake, and will continue to do so no matter what.
 
 
+17 # Auteur47 2016-05-25 10:46
He'll stall and stall and stonewall forever. We're likely never going to see his damn returns because he knows they will make him look bad to voters who are not Trump sycophants. Romney took such a hit when he finally revealed the paltry tax rate he paid for, what, ONE year that turned out to be scandalously low?
 
 
-10 # djnova50 2016-05-25 10:48
I certainly don't care about Donald Trump's tax return. He's a billionaire and probably didn't pay any taxes. A tax return seems like such a trivial thing when judging a person's character.

Even if he did release it for public scrutiny, I'm not going to waste my time scrutinizing it.
 
 
-8 # rocback 2016-05-25 11:48
The real Trump Trojan Horses are now showing their colors.

Why would any Sanders supporters be excusing Trump from doing what every other presidential candidate has done in the last 50 years.
 
 
+7 # dbrize 2016-05-25 12:14
Quoting rocback:
The real Trump Trojan Horses are now showing their colors.

Why would any Sanders supporters be excusing Trump from doing what every other presidential candidate has done in the last 50 years.


Check those London odds, I will take a bet that he does. And, you are like the proverbial stopped clock, right for once, he should.

As for you...be careful what you wish for...do you think the independents and undecideds are more interested in Trumps tax returns or Hillary's Wall Street Bankster speeches?
 
 
+1 # RMDC 2016-05-25 12:19
rock -- I don't think anyone is excusing Trump, or not that i've seen. I'm a Sanders supporter, a Jill Stein supporter who might vote for Trump just to keep another Clinton out of the White House. I know what I'd be voting for -- a corrupt real estate developer, and egomaniac, a TV reality star, and a demagogue. All those are bad, but they are less bad -- to me -- than what the Clintons are. I just want to break up the hegemony of the Bush/Clinton dynasty which has ruled the US since the mid 1970s. At least Trump is outside of that dynasty.
 
 
-2 # rocback 2016-05-25 13:19
This is how fascism comes to America

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-how-fascism-comes-to-america/2016/05/17/c4e32c58-1c47-11e6-8c7b-6931e66333e7_story.html?wpisrc=nl_az_most
 
 
+8 # dbrize 2016-05-25 18:17
Quoting rocback:
This is how fascism comes to America

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-how-fascism-comes-to-america/2016/05/17/c4e32c58-1c47-11e6-8c7b-6931e66333e7_story.html?wpisrc=nl_az_most


Ha! WAPO the neocon/neolib house organ for war and Robert Kagan along with his wife Victoria Nuland, Clinton advisers that haven't seen a war they can't support, talk about fascism. How rich.

Some predicted this crowd decades ago:

"All that is needed to set us definitely on the road to a Fascist society is war. It will of course be a modified form of Fascism at first."

John T Flynn

Get it rocman...war drives the engine of fascism. And you are for the warmongers...by their deeds we will know them.
 
 
+3 # Nominae 2016-05-26 00:27
Quoting rocback:
This is how fascism comes to America

Cue Spooky Bed-Wetting Soundtrack,
aaaand : "SCENE" !

crockback - here's your Oscar for best supporting buffoon in a Troll Production ! ;-D
_
 
 
0 # rocback 2016-05-25 15:23
RMDC, how can you be a Jill Stein supporter and even consider voting for a man who claims global warming is a Chinese hoax?
 
 
0 # dsepeczi 2016-05-26 09:45
Quoting rocback:
RMDC, how can you be a Jill Stein supporter and even consider voting for a man who claims global warming is a Chinese hoax?


Sadly, it is true (and incredible) that he said that. But here's the thing that I keep getting back to ... How much different will Hillary be, if at all ? A lot of democratic party loyalists still tend to believe that the democrats are fundamentally different than the repugs on a LOT of issues in which the evidence doesn't support the thesis. While I can agree that the democrats are mildly better than the republicans on some social issues, they are far more talk than action. When you separate words from actions, the two parties are almost indistinguishab le from each other on most of the major issues. Both parties support any and every chance we have to go to war. On foreign policy, I'd even go so far as to say that Hillary's a bigger warmonger than the republicans. On economic policy, the democrats are as supportive harmful trade agreements. On climate change, the dems talk a good game but what have they done to address the issue ? With Hillary's campaign so heavily financed by the oil industry, do you really believe she's going to come out against fracking ? On transparency, Obama's transparent government has charged more whistleblowers as spies than all other administrations combined. On immigration, he's deported 23% more people than Bush. Not much difference. It's Bernie or 3rd party for me.
 
 
0 # djnova50 2016-05-25 12:34
rocback, I am not excusing Trump. I just don't care about his tax returns. Just as I don't care about Bernie's, Hillary's, or even Obama's tax returns.

Tax returns do not interest me. Even though I file a tax return every year and do not have to pay taxes, I put it off because the activity does not interest me. I just do it for the EIC.
 
 
+3 # rocback 2016-05-25 13:22
I dont think anyone would be interested in your and my tax returns. But we are not running for President of the United States.

I would like to see thousands of well-trained reporters and CPA's going over his returns just like they went over Hillary's for the last 33 years.
 
 
+7 # desertprogressive 2016-05-25 18:41
Wow, I completely agree with you on this. His tax returns will tell a lot about his character.
 
 
+1 # Nominae 2016-05-26 00:33
Quoting DesertProgressive:
Wow, I completely agree with you on this. His tax returns will tell a lot about his character.

TRUMP'S tax returns, like those of *ANY 1%er (like the Clintons) will be a FLAT-OUT *FICTION created by
"Arthur Anderson" caliber "accountants" from start to finish.

How *absolutely *accurate to THE red cent is the tax return of ANYONE on this Q ? ;-D

crocback is hoping that the *entire RSN Q is AS gullible, naive, and equipped with the nano-second attention span that HE has! ;-D
_
 
 
+4 # lfeuille 2016-05-25 17:25
Well, I think all presidential candidates should release their returns. I'm not going to personally scrutinize them either, but the press and Senator Warren will and tell me if something is fishy. Ones income bracket has an effect on ones political outlook and the public deserves to know.
 
 
+2 # reiverpacific 2016-05-25 15:48
Quoting rocback:
The real Trump Trojan Horses are now showing their colors.

Why would any Sanders supporters be excusing Trump from doing what every other presidential candidate has done in the last 50 years.

And your horse is pumping out it customary shit as always!
 
 
-2 # Robbee 2016-05-25 18:18
Quoting reiverpacific:
Quoting rocback:
The real Trump Trojan Horses are now showing their colors.

Why would any Sanders supporters be excusing Trump from doing what every other presidential candidate has done in the last 50 years.

And your horse is pumping out it customary shit as always!


roc has a good question! - bernie supporters are not in the business of excusing rump for hiding his tax returns! - as much as anyone else, bernie defends the public's right to know! - and demands rump disclose his tax returns!

hence we can fairly deduce that those who want to give rump a free pass on his tax returns are rump trojans!

is there really any other way to look at it?
 
 
+1 # Nominae 2016-05-26 00:23
Quoting rocback:
Why would any Sanders supporters be excusing Trump from doing what every other presidential candidate has done in the last 50 years.

crocback, my ADHD friend, were you not able to get a bright kid to read you Auteur47's post above ?

Sanders *already released as much as Moron Mitt, and yet LIKE Baghdad Bob, you just keep pounding away at your NON POINT that NO presidential candidate before has done ANYTHING akin to Sanders.

You are more annoying and just as boring as a freakin' broken record, my precious, and that is *EXACTLY what RSN readers are going to *MOST vividly remember come Election TIME !

Thank you SO Much for your MATCHLESS recruitment of literal *LEGIONS of new Sanders supporters.

Hillary is PAYING, you, but it is Sanders Supporters who will end up owning you the GREATEST recompense ! ;-D
_
 
 
+13 # RMDC 2016-05-25 11:33
I think I'd rather see Hillary's speeches to Goldman Sachs than Trump's tax returns, though both ought to be made public by anyone who hopes to hold a very powerful public office.

If Hillary is the democratic nominee and Trump fronts for the republicans, we will have the two most crooked candidates in all modern US history. There were some real scallywags back in the 1800s so it is hard to say they are the absolute most corrupt and dishonest. But that was then and this is now.
 
 
+4 # turtleislander 2016-05-25 11:53
Quoting RMDC:
I think I'd rather see Hillary's speeches to Goldman Sachs than Trump's tax returns, though both ought to be made public by anyone who hopes to hold a very powerful public office.

If Hillary is the democratic nominee and Trump fronts for the republicans, we will have the two most crooked candidates in all modern US history. There were some real scallywags back in the 1800s so it is hard to say they are the absolute most corrupt and dishonest. But that was then and this is now.

agree. This is a distraction.
 
 
+1 # djnova50 2016-05-25 15:46
I agree.

Trump does not interest me. What does interest me is what went on behind closed doors when Hillary was speaking to Goldman Sachs. What kind of promises did she make?

With Hillary, and Donald, it is all about them. With Bernie, it is all about us.
 
 
+14 # cspanspin 2016-05-25 12:02
Trump demanded that Romney release his returns.
 
 
+2 # elkingo 2016-05-25 13:20
Danireland, right on! Although I do think the exchange was between Scott and Hemmingway. Trump is despicable in every way, but why should he be made to reveal his taxes when the average American is not? This is largely academic anyway, as both Trump and Hillary are theives by any humane standard. O how I HATE to say anything positive about the Donald, but come to think of it, this ain't.
 
 
+6 # Robbee 2016-05-25 15:52
yesterday - Donald Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski confessed that rump paid "the lowest tax rate possible!"

if anyone knows of a lower tax rate than zero, please bring that to our attention! - curious minds want to know!

the only question is - what loopholes did rump use, in order to pay no taxes?
 
 
-4 # Robbee 2016-05-25 16:07
that explains alot! - says - # RMDC 2016-05-25 12:19
"I'm ... a Jill Stein supporter..."

milk producers of america are gonna hate r-!

- stein is a 3rd-party candidate for national office, like nader in 2000 - the only thing a green candidate can accomplish in federal elections is to siphon progressive votes from the dem candidate!

didn't stein run in 2012? how did that work out for greens? greens are like a guy who goes to the frig, takes out the milk, opens the top, smells it's yeck! spoilt! puts it back, and every four years takes it out again, just to see if it got fresh again!

the irony is that stein is a competent candidate, but lazy - like bernie, she should run for office as mayor, do a good job, run for office as senator or governor, as bernie proved a 3rd party candidate can win, and only then run for prez as a dem!

the greens' mission is to ruin dem candidacies because they maintain that there is ABSOLUTELY NO difference between dems and zomblicans, which only shows inability to judge, lack of critical thought - when you believe in things that you don't understand, you're gonna suffer! - stevie wonder

greens haven't pulled a nader yet, losing dems an election! - but they won't quit trying!

r- is our "here's how to" champion of progressives throwing away their votes! our champion of spoilt milk!

r-'s is false-flag support for stein! - down with GOP! - in the general election, go dem!
 
 
-4 # Robbee 2016-05-25 16:19
lie! - # turtleislander 2016-05-25 11:53
This is a distraction

- and don't even try to change the subject!
 
 
-5 # ojg 2016-05-25 16:50
More hate for Democrats and free passes for Trump from the whining, complaining, crying Berniephiles. What a surprise! But it is beginning to make me wonder if you REALLY are Trump supporters after all-Trump supporters, playing like Berniephiles.
 
 
-5 # Robbee 2016-05-25 17:31
about this thread! - it leads back to why rump does not release his taxes! - if he releases his taxes, are they likely to disclose embarrassing or criminal activity?

does he squirrel income abroad? and ship american jobs abroad? all legal like? like itt omni? to lower taxes he pays here? - how do his rump base? his lower middle class white voters feel about that? - happy? betrayed?

does rump under-report income here? evade taxes? as a scofflaw?

after loopholes, does he pay lower tax rates than lowest middle class taxpayers? or none at all? (looks like none!) - how do his rump base? his lower middle class white voters feel about that? - happy? betrayed?

does he report income others pay to license his name abroad? do his licensees employ cheap foreign labor in sweatshops? or children? or slaves? or traffic humans? - go media! start digging!

this is a story with legs! - and if it comes out after rump becomes official gop nominee and before general election! woe is the gop!

since revelations in panama papers, the SEC has begun demanding shell corporations name their real owners!

in any case it is field day on rump! - pile on! - now and forever! - go bernie! - tear into rump like a rump steak!

granted his sycophants blow thru rump's baggage like a white-hypocrite tornado!

but if nothing can dissuade his sycophants! - then his list of sycophants is surely limited!

you know what robbee always says! - "fuck 'em if they can't take a joke!" - go bernie!
 
 
-5 # Robbee 2016-05-25 17:43
note that after i showup! r- disappears! - i've been afteer our local doc of chiropractic med to explain a coupla things he says! - like! -

# Robbee 2016-05-25 10:51
# Robbee 2016-05-17 22:19
# Robbee 2016-05-09 10:04
anyway, since rmdc is here, i'd like to pick up a certain thread s/he dropped a few days ago

# Robbee 2016-05-05 17:05
you lost me! - # RMDC 2016-05-05 12:57
"... There have been massive efforts by both republicans and democrats to prevent (poor people) from voting."

kindly detail efforts by dems to prevent poor people from voting, thanks!
 
 
-5 # Robbee 2016-05-25 17:47
numbly, almost comatose, asks! - # RMDC 2016-05-25 10:20
Why does Warren not give her campaign a huge momentum boost by coming out and endorsing Sanders?

- warren told you! numbscull! - you just don't listen!

Elizabeth Warren ✔@elizabethforma

I'm going to fight my heart out to make sure @realDonaldTrum p’s toxic stew of hatred & insecurity never reaches the White House.
10:51 PM - 3 May 2016

- more than a few GOP trolls here treat warren just like they treat bernie! - like progressive shit! - when bernie talks here, more than a few don't care to listen!

instead they hear GOP dog whistles! like -
"let's us progressives form a 3rd party"
"let's us progressives write-in bernie"
"let's us progressives vote stein"
"let's us progressives sit home and not vote"
"let's us progressives vote for trump, how bad can he be?"

either more than a few of us are GOP trolls! - or else more than a few of us are just plain deaf, blind and stupid!

am i paranoid? - only if the 22 are not trolls out to boost the GOP!
 
 
-6 # Robbee 2016-05-25 18:06
unidentified flying comment alert! - says - # RMDC 2016-04-26 17:13
I think both Clintons behave in just the way all southern white scum lie and manipulate people to get what they want ... If the US had "free and fair elections," Sanders would be the democratic party nominee.

- easy for you to say! - but inquiring minds want to know! - please explain!

1) how are we to know that all southern white scum lie and manipulate people to get what they want? - where is your research?

2) are all southern whites scum who lie and manipulate people to get what they want? - or just some? - how can we tell which are which? - research?

3) in double-blind study, are there any groups of people anywhere who do not lie and manipulate people to get what they want? - who are these wonderful demographic? - where is your research?

4) what would it take for US to have "free and fair elections"? - research?

5) for US to have "free and fair elections"? - does that involve preventing blacks, latinos, or older women? who overwhelmingly support hill? from voting? if not, where is your research?

6) if we are to believe all you say, do we have to suspend our own judgments? - go with our gut instincts?

i don't doubt that some southern white scum lie and manipulate - if you are not a racist bigot, tho, please explain how you know all are? - then explain how bestiality contaminated the clintons! - and why we can't trust millions of blacks, latinos and women to vote for hill, thanks!
 
 
+4 # mmc 2016-05-25 18:26
Why do people keep bothering to write about this? Trump is never going to release his real tax returns, because they will destroy him, by showing what a liar and a cheat he is. So just assume that to be the case, and make sure you vote for whoever is running against him.
 
 
+2 # karenvista 2016-05-25 20:33
Is David Brock spending the whole million from "Corrupt the Record" on trolls for RSN? They are really thick tonight!
 
 
+4 # SenorN 2016-05-25 21:46
I'll be happily amazed if Trump releases his returns because his advisers know that the kind of person who plans to vote for him doesn't care about the issue.
 
 
-3 # ojg 2016-05-25 23:04
karenv, the only trolls i see are the trump trolls--like you.
 
 
+2 # Nominae 2016-05-26 01:21
Quoting ojg:
karenv, the only trolls i see are the trump trolls--like you.

Ooooppsie, ojg, your Clinton Pay Stub is hanging out of your back pocket.

And how embarrassing is your snarky little Second Grader in a Sanbox sh^t above that roughly equates to Early Grade School: "I know you are - but what am I ?" level of "wit" ? ;-D

Your third grade level snark aimed at karenvista reveals *MUCH more about *your OWN prepubescent mindset than it does about any *One, or any *THING Else ! ;-D
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+5 # librarian1984 2016-05-26 06:32
Exciting news!

Clinton has refused to debate Sanders before the CA primary on June 7th, but guess who HAS accepted the invitation? -- Trump.

A Sanders-Trump debate.

Oh be still my heart! This would show Clinton out of the loop. It would give Sanders a chance to show he can take on Trump, especially after we've all had a taste of what the next 6 months of a Clinton-Trump election would look like.

This could be FANTASTIC.

I'm sure the media's instinct is NOT to encourage this because it elevates Sanders, but they can't NOT show it because .. Greed.


Sanders-Trump debate: Oh yeah!!!
 
 
+2 # Radscal 2016-05-26 13:48
The Drumpf campaign is now saying that Drumpf was "just kidding" and they will NOT take a chance debating Sanders.
 
 
+1 # Nominae 2016-05-27 02:56
Quoting Radscal:
The Drumpf campaign is now saying that Drumpf was "just kidding" and they will NOT take a chance debating Sanders.

Yeah .... sadly *that sounds more like the reality that we have all come to know and "love". :-((
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