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Excerpt: "We have already seen deeply disturbing signs of the 'strip and flip' scam in the 2016 primaries. All, of course, have been to the detriment of the Bernie Sanders campaign."

Voters wait in line to cast their ballot Tuesday, June 5, 2012, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. (photo: Jeffrey Phelps/AP)
Voters wait in line to cast their ballot Tuesday, June 5, 2012, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. (photo: Jeffrey Phelps/AP)


Is the 2016 Election Already Being Stripped & Flipped?

By Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman, Reader Supported News

03 April 16

 

isturbing signs of the time-tested “Strip and Flip” strategy for stealing elections have already surfaced in 2016. Will they ultimately decide the outcome, as they have in too many recent elections?

The core approach is to STRIP citizens of their voting rights, then FLIP the electronic vote count if that’s not enough to guarantee a win for the corporate 1%. (Listen to a one-hour discussion with us, Brent Blackwelder, and Randy Hayes.)

Historically, “stripping” has been based on race. It’s rooted in the divide-and-conquer strategies of slavery and Jim Crow segregation. Today it centers on racist demands for photo ID and other scams designed to prevent blacks, Hispanics, the young, and the poor from voting.

“Flipping” is related to electronic voting machines, on which the vast majority of Americans will vote this fall. Nearly all these machines were bought with money from the 2002 Help America Vote Act, which came after the theft of the 2000 presidential election. Virtually all these machines are 10 years old or more, and can easily be hacked. Swing states Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Michigan, Iowa and Arizona, among others, have GOP governors and, except for Florida, secretaries of state who can easily flip the vote counts, once they are cast, without accountability or detection. Also, private partisan voting machine companies have unlimited access to the electronic poll books, voting machines, and central tabulators.

Those who dismiss such warnings as “conspiracy theory” might confront this simple question: “How will the electronic vote count in the 2016 election be verified?”

The answer is simple: “It can’t be.” The vote count in 2016 for the offices of President, US Congress, governorships, state legislatures, county commissioners, dog catchers, and thousands of others will come through electronic black boxes. The veracity of the outcomes will vary from state to state based on the whims and interests of those in charge of the electronic tallies.

In the meantime, we have already seen deeply disturbing signs of the “strip and flip” scam in the 2016 primaries. All, of course, have been to the detriment of the Bernie Sanders campaign:

  • Despite the claim that Hillary Clinton “won” the Iowa and Nevada caucuses, there’s clear evidence Bernie was the rightful winner in both states. In Iowa, Clinton’s “victory” apparently turned on six coin tosses, all of which she allegedly won.

  • There’s clear evidence that Bernie actually won the Massachusetts primary, which the corporate media and official vote count gave to Hillary. Analyst Richard Charnin has examined pre-election polls and post-election exit polls, both showing Bernie substantially ahead of Clinton prior to the voting. In a phenomenon we have seen elsewhere (most notably as George W. Bush “beat” John Kerry in New Mexico 2004), Bernie won all the precincts with hand-counted paper ballots but lost all the ones with electronic voting machines. Exit polls significantly “outside the statistical margin of error” are the international gold standard for determining election fraud. If the U.S. held the same standards as the European Union, the government would be conducting investigations for election fraud not only in the Massachusetts primary but also in the Missouri, Illinois, and Ohio primaries.

  • In Arizona we saw a re-run of Ohio 2004, where left-leaning Democratic urban areas were stripped of precincts and short-changed on voting machines and back-up paper ballots, resulting in long lines and thousands of citizens being deprived of their vote. African-Americans in Cleveland, Columbus, Toledo, Dayton, and Cincinnati waited up to seven hours and more to vote in 2004, causing mass disenfranchisement that helped give Bush Ohio and a second term in the White House. In Arizona this year, thousands of citizens were also robbed of their vote due to the elimination of precincts, machine shortages, and the failure to provide back-up paper ballots. Many were handed provisional ballots which regularly are discarded and never counted.

According to investigative reporter Greg Palast, hundreds of thousands of potential voters are now being stripped from the registration rolls in key swing states, including Ohio. Palast, whose work is strictly non-partisan, broke the major stories in Florida 2000 showing Gov. Jeb Bush had disenfranchised tens of thousands of registered voters (in an election decided by 537 votes) using a computer program allegedly showing them to be ex-felons (they weren’t). This year Kansas secretary of state Kris Kobach, using a computer program called Interstate Crosscheck, is doing the dirty work. This program allegedly tracks down people who have voted twice (none actually have) and denies them their right to vote. Palast says the names indicate a heavily African-American and Hispanic constituency being disenfranchised, which would have a significant impact on the presidential race, but also on Congress, governorships, state legislatures and more.

As reported by Brad Friedman and others, a wide range of irregularities in other states have also dogged this primary season. They could well be the determining factor in who gets the nomination in both major parties. Official reports have now surfaced in Wisconsin of “problems” with poll books and other electronic apparatus in the lead-in to that states’s critical primary.

A recent study by Harvard and the University of Sydney, Australia, found that the United States had the “worst elections of any long-established democracy.” The U.S. ranked 47th out of the 47 long-term democratic nations.

Something serious must be done. Without radical action, these carefully engineered precinct eliminations, ballot and machine shortages, mass disenfranchisements, and too much more will not only determine who wins the presidency this fall, but also who controls the Congress, numerous governorships, and state legislatures and the whole gamut of elective offices around the country.

In the long run, only universal automatic voter registration, a four-day national holiday for voting, universal hand-counted paper ballots and other reforms will guarantee us a fair and reliable vote count. Posted at www.freepress.org, we call it the “Ohio Plan.”

But none of that will be in place this fall. In our coming articles, and in two weeks with our PowerPoint compendium, THE STRIP AND FLIP SELECTION OF 2016, we will discuss what we can do in the interim.



Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman have co-authored six books on election protection, including the upcoming power point compendium THE STRIP & FLIP SELECTION OF 2016: FIVE JIM CROWS AND ELECTRONIC ELECTION THEFT. Bob’s FITRAKIS FILES are at www.freepress.org. Harvey’s AMERICA AT THE BRINK OF REBIRTH: THE ORGANIC SPIRAL OF US HISTORY will be published soon via www.solartopia.org.

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+118 # Caliban 2016-04-03 12:21
Important work. As an officer in a small rural precinct, I am embarrassed to admit my unfamiliarity with the writings of Fitrakis and Wasserman. But my Spring reading list is about to be altered for the better.
 
 
+17 # Navigatio di Brendani 2016-04-04 15:24
Bob and Harvey hand-delivered a copy of their book about how 2004 election was stolen to Bobby Kennedy, Jr. Their work formed the basis of Bobby's hugely popular 2006 Rolling Stone article, Was the 2004 Election Stolen in Ohio?

Fitrakis and Wasserman are monster reporters, let me tell you!
 
 
+68 # Anonymot 2016-04-03 13:10
America was slowly, very slowly, headed for democracy, but as we approached our demonic, Teutonic forces found it got in their way. Two steps back.
 
 
+16 # Capn Canard 2016-04-04 07:22
Teutonic forces? WTF? I am certain that what you meant to say is Roman, Nazi, Fascist, Spanish Nationalists or Soviet forces, eh? We need to remember that it was FDR that brought us back from the brink of disaster, and then 50 years later it was Ronald Reagan that lead us like sheep to the slaughter. This is all about money and wealth, and money and wealth are power. Republicans are whorish tools, and democrats are drooling avaricious leeches.
 
 
-72 # Doc Mary 2016-04-03 13:11
Oh, not all the flipping went towards Clinton. The party county conventions (which elects delegates to the state convention when elects delegates to the national convention - got that?) ended up giving Nevada to Sanders, whereas the local caucuses had Clinton with a larger lead. How did that happen? Simply because more Sanders supporters showed up than Clinton supporters in Clark County (where Vegas is) and other counties (such as Washoe, where Reno is).
 
 
+67 # LtDan65 2016-04-03 15:12
Doc, Reno and Vegas are essentially almost all the population of Nevada.
 
 
+5 # Capn Canard 2016-04-04 07:25
Yep, and all of Las Vegas/Reno are artificial constructs. Without the masturbatory gambling they wouldn't exist.
 
 
+3 # GreenBee 2016-04-05 19:10
This happened just last Saturday and there has been no follow-up in the media with any verification of any facts or assertions. So we do not know what happened there.
There were accusations of wrongdoing and impropriety by both the Sanders camp and the Clinton camp. I tried to get more detailed information about this for the past four days and the media has been completely silent. If there had been wrongdoing on the Sanders side don't you think the Clinton campaign would be making hay of it this week to help her in the next 2 contests? And vice versa? yet the complete details are not to be found. Just rumors on reddit and other similar sites. Makes one wonder about the integrity of our media.
 
 
+154 # MsAnnaNOLA 2016-04-03 13:47
We will never know who won any election until we have hand counted paper ballots universally.
 
 
+75 # REDPILLED 2016-04-03 14:44
The Deep State will not allow paper ballots as long as they rule.
 
 
-41 # Diane_Wilkinson_Trefethen_aka_tref 2016-04-03 16:15
@REDPILLED - I put on my tin foil hat and gave you a thumbs up.
 
 
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+9 # Capn Canard 2016-04-04 07:31
Yes. And money/banking are key to control the whole process. Make banking public and that problem would evaporate.
 
 
-19 # Caliban 2016-04-03 22:40
Hand counted paper ballots can be as easily and deliberately miscounted as any other.
 
 
+36 # CTPatriot 2016-04-04 04:00
Not on the scale or with the ease that hacking of e-voting machines allows. Think about it. All you need are a few lines of malicious code in a software update and you can instantly flip tens of thousands of votes across an entire state's voting machines.

On the other hand, with a good system of ballot protection and counting, it's almost impossible to cheat at all on hand counted paper ballots.
 
 
+23 # Capn Canard 2016-04-04 07:35
Paper ballots can not be anywhere nearly as easyily and deliberately miscounted as electronic manipulation. If you want to steal an election, the USA is the easiest place to accomplish such a theft. Even the crude and hamfisted 2000 election theft was accepted without close examination, and a massive electronic flipping of the vote will look seamless in comparison.
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-04-06 23:01
Quoting Caliban:
Hand counted paper ballots can be as easily and deliberately miscounted as any other.


and where in the world of paper ballot voting do you SHOW PROOF of such miscounting occurring (based on appeals and recounts) because I have no single example I know of
 
 
0 # Caliban 2016-12-30 23:16
I see now I wasn't clear about the source of my (moderate) skepticism about ballot counts of any kind.

I meant to say that the results of the any count can be misrepresented and/or misreported by whomever controls the process, and it could be difficult in corrupt enough circumstances to get a honest and/or accurate recount.

Let me say again, however, that while such misrepresentati ons are possible, the history of US elections shows NO major example of this happening. Hence my general trust of the US voting process.
 
 
+7 # Adoregon 2016-04-04 13:43
Vote by mail!!!
 
 
+54 # boredlion 2016-04-03 14:02
"Democracy is comin
to the USA."

- Leonard Cohen, "Democracy"

But don't hold your breath.
 
 
+151 # djnova50 2016-04-03 14:10
Washington state has all mail-in or drop-off ballots. Any registered voter with an address will get a ballot about 2 weeks before the ballot is due. I take my ballot to the drop box inside the courthouse; but, I could easily drop it off in the drive up drop box.

voting machines should be outlawed.
 
 
+94 # LtDan65 2016-04-03 15:37
Great job Washington becoming like Oregon. Oregon has had Vote By Mail, VBM, for many years and the only fraud was one republican county clerk tried stuffing ballots, was caught on video and prosecuted. If anyone wants to register and vote, we make it easy, because republican'ts do not control our Oregon- because of VBM.

Get off your butts look at success and emulate.
 
 
+20 # wrknight 2016-04-03 19:39
Voting machines are OK if they are backed up by paper ballots. Where I live, we use paper ballots that are electronically counted by machine. If there's any discrepancy or challenge to the machine count, they are manually counted and that process is overseen by "poll watchers" from both major parties.

The vote by mail process set up in both Oregon and Washington has the advantage that it enables all eligible voters to cast their vote regardless of work schedule or other conflicts of time. On the flip side, there is a risk that some votes could get "lost in the mail". If it were known how people voted in certain zip codes, ballots bearing a particular zip code could simply "disappear" before being opened.
 
 
+13 # suziemama 2016-04-03 22:24
I live in Washington State, and worked as an Elections Inspector when we had poll voting. I remember hearing that there was some way to double encrypt ballots so that the voter could double-check on-line that their ballot was received and tabulated correctly, but that their ballot would still be "secret" to the elections office. This certainly seems possible, and would be useful. Anyone have any info?
 
 
+2 # Henry 2016-04-04 21:52
There was a TED Talk about something like this just recently.
 
 
+16 # MsAnnaNOLA 2016-04-04 12:26
The machine counting devices have been found to be hacked before. They mis-count on purpose. That is why we need hand counted paper ballots. 100% verifiable and counted before leaving the precinct. In Louisiana they would say that in the trunk of the car would be a box of ballots so they would switch the ballots out before giving them to the counters. They have to be counted with watchers at each precinct before leaving the precinct.

It might mean we don't know who won for a while, but that is OK and normal!
 
 
+1 # crispy 2016-04-06 23:09
msAnnaNOLa, you would be surprised had you watched counting in France for example how FAST it isd and election results are usually projected in minutes (Yes minutes for projections in presidential) even though there are usually over 7 candidates. results can take 2 days or more for exact numbers because of mailed ballots mostly and some recounts
 
 
+73 # BettyFaas 2016-04-03 14:19
We know there has been cheating! Why do we let the corporate MSM get away with ignoring the fact that the results of our elections are unreliable? Are Americans ever going to wake up and realize they are being divided and duped?
 
 
+46 # REDPILLED 2016-04-03 14:47
Only a massive phone call, email, postal letter/postcard drive and boycott of MSM will cause them to even notice that we are angry at their non-coverage.
 
 
+48 # wantrealdemocracy 2016-04-03 15:15
We won't going to wake up and realize we have been divided and duped until we turn off the Tee Vee and not believe anything 'our' government tells us. Wasn't it enough to prove the point that our elections are corrupt when the "Supreme Court" said, "Stop the vote counting. Bush won."

Time for the people to rise up in rebellion against our corrupt government.
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-04-06 23:14
yeap and that coup showed Americans are low informed pathetic sheep. In any European country where counting had been stopped would have seen mass demonstrations in the streets, the next day AND UNTIL counting had resumed, but here NOTHING happened, not even an outraged appeal from Gore -- which shows dems were ready for the switch over to Reps
 
 
+39 # LtDan65 2016-04-03 15:39
Work for Vote By Mail
 
 
+66 # PABLO DIABLO 2016-04-03 14:50
It's not who votes, it's who counts the votes.
 
 
+31 # LtDan65 2016-04-03 15:30
and how easy it is to subvert the process.
 
 
+16 # CL38 2016-04-03 19:12
It's both.
 
 
+17 # mozartssister 2016-04-03 21:11
And it's who says WHO can vote.
 
 
-41 # ericlipps 2016-04-03 15:23
The enthusiasm for paper ballots should be tempered. It's all to easy to "lose" such ballots, and even to replace them with forged ones.

There is NO fraud-proof system for voting.

And I find unconvincing what is basically a claim that honest vote counts would have had Bernie Sanders essentially running away with the nomination but that supporters of wicked-witch Clinton stole state after state after state. I know Bernieites essentially think everyone with any sense voted for him, but it's not so.

I also find disturbing the claim by some Sanders supporters that Hillary is doomed because she's running out of states with high percentages of black Democrats. That sounds too much like a suggestion that blacks in particular are just too dumb to understand the issues and the candidates and that that's why they predominantly vote for Clinton.
 
 
+43 # Diane_Wilkinson_Trefethen_aka_tref 2016-04-03 16:20
@ericlipps - You are correct that there are no "fraud-proof" systems BUT...

That does not mean we should use a system where the tally cannot be overseen by representatives of the candidates nor can the votes be recounted and/or examined for tampering.
 
 
+6 # MsAnnaNOLA 2016-04-04 12:30
As it stands NONE of the elections conducted on electronic machines can be challenged in any meaningful way.

It is extremely difficult to prove a negative. When the evidence vanishes into thin air how do you prove there was tampering? You can't and that is by design.

The only reason I figure both parties allow this system to continue is because they both benefit from it sometimes or they are both in on it all the time. As in they go to a back room and decide who will be president and then fix the votes around the chosen winner.
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-04-06 23:18
no full proof system exists but as I pointed out above (reply to caliban)
Quoting Caliban:

Hand counted paper ballots can be as easily and deliberately miscounted as any other.


and where in the world of paper ballot voting do you SHOW PROOF of such miscounting occurring (based on appeals and recounts) because I have no single example I know of.
Again show me an example where in the 50 countries using paper ballot a nation-wide recount has ever been necessary, or evidence of massive fraud been suspected.
 
 
0 # Caliban 2016-12-30 23:22
Hi, #crispy -- I didn't see this response earlier for some reason, but I have tried to clarify my poorly framed comment in response to your earlier critique above.
 
 
+65 # LtDan65 2016-04-03 15:28
FGS, please look at OREGON!... 67% turnout for Oregon 2014 while the rest - 33%. and we elect Dems and even many progressives

Wake up to Oregon's Motor Voter registration and Oregon's 100% Vote By Mail. as foolproof and enfranchising as it gets! If you don't want to mail, or you're late, just drive by one of the numerous drop boxes. God, it is so simple that we love it - and don't need to whine.

OK, liberals, time to stop whining and do something. It is so tiresome to hear only whining and complaining, yet ignoring facts and actions. No wonder republicans continue to get by with election fraud and control the governments they hate. Washington State finally copied part of the extremely successful voting laws of OREGON!! Full mail - in Oregon voting with 2 weeks to vote and an excellent Voters' Pamphlet!

Did I mention Oregon's Vote by Mail?!!
 
 
+6 # tapelt 2016-04-03 19:36
Florida has the same thing (except that it is not 100%), and I love it.
 
 
+47 # MadKate 2016-04-03 15:28
Oregon has automatic voter registration and paper mail in or drop off ballots. The counting system has been perfected, with watchers from both parties. We were the first state to do this (Washington followed), but I hope not the last.
We have no voter fraud in Oregon, unlike so many states with UnVoting Machines!

WTF is wrong with America? Are we really so hopeless?
 
 
+38 # kate@kseley.jazztel.es 2016-04-03 17:59
Agree! There's no need for computer voting machines.I live in Spain, where there are only hand paper ballots, which get counted pretty quickly. There are representatives from all parties. Spain has corruption in other spheres but not this. WTF is wrong with the US? It's not rocket science!
 
 
+17 # CL38 2016-04-03 19:14
corporate, special interest take-over
 
 
+3 # Henry 2016-04-04 21:56
Quoting MadKate:

We have no voter fraud in Oregon, unlike so many states with UnVoting Machines!


Just remember it's not really "voter fraud" that's the problem (even though Republicans insist on that. It's ELECTION FRAUD.
 
 
+39 # AUCHMANNOCH 2016-04-03 15:54
American Democracy? Is this some kind of joke? Stick to paper. Sure, ballot papers can be 'lost' but it's a lot harder to lose tons of paper than it is to flip a switch!
 
 
+24 # reiverpacific 2016-04-03 17:15
Quoting AUCHMANNOCH:
American Democracy? Is this some kind of joke? Stick to paper. Sure, ballot papers can be 'lost' but it's a lot harder to lose tons of paper than it is to flip a switch!

Be interesting to see how things worked out if everybody HAD to vote, like you Aussies.
 
 
+1 # MsAnnaNOLA 2016-04-04 12:33
oh and what do they do when they find an extra 50,000 or so votes in the total of an election. As in 50,000 votes more than people who voted, then they can do nothing but certify the winner. They can't go back and figure out why that happened at all. They can't back the votes out.
 
 
+50 # Robbee 2016-04-03 15:57
Why We Must Now Adopt the "Ohio Plan" to Prevent the "Strip & Flip" of American Elections, Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman, Reader Supported News, 21 January 16

This year, at least 80% of the nation’s votes will be cast on electronic machines whose outcome can be altered by a secretary of state with just a few keystrokes, and without detection.

There is a way – we call it “The Ohio Plan” – by which we can attain a fair and reliable vote count.

The Ohio Plan is this:

1. Voter registration must be universal and automatic for all citizens as they turn 18.

2. Electronic poll books are banned, with all voter registration records maintained manually.

3. All elections happen over a 4-day weekend – Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday – which together comprise a national holiday, preferably around Veterans Day in November.

4. All voting happens on paper ballots.

5. All vote counting is done manually, with ballots preserved at least two years.

6. Polls are run and ballots are counted by the nation’s high school and college students, who will get the days off and be paid a “scholarship” for their work at $15/hour.

an excellent proposal!
 
 
+32 # Robbee 2016-04-03 15:58
paper ballots, pt. 2

also i strongly recommend as follows -

1) election day registration of every voter bearing any form of state ID, expired or unexpired, showing precinct address - although not shown, on precinct rolls, as registered - it shall be a crime to vote at more than one precinct

2) each poll remains open until all voters, arriving in line before closing, have voted

3) volunteer poll watchers, one for each party listed on the ballot, to oversee that each ballot gets accurately counted

4) real time transparency in recording, by secretary of state staff, of each precinct count - so that every alleged discrepancy immediately gets investigated

5) voting primarily by mail to all registered voters, supplemented, of course, by precinct voting in person

doubtless this disgusting congress will not be taking up any reforms

obama should proceed by executive order to implement reforms

when gops sue to block the prez order, and courts block his order, scotus should rule for or against democracy months before november, 2016

bernie has proposed various reforms, not including paper ballots - i pray he joins the paper ballot, only, proponents! - go bernie!
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-04-06 23:32
Robbee, you say "obama should proceed by executive order to implement reforms"
I agree . DID YOU MAIL YOUR PROPOSAL TO OBAMA (a whimp) and CONGRESS??
I agree on all points although 4-day holiday is a bit much for me: Sat +Sun should be enough but i guess in the leisure industry (Las Vegas casinos for ex) people work on WE.
Same day registration at the polling station you belong to is good although some will use it to cheat and felony rather than crime should be the penalty for fraud (how about felony for those who currently temper w machines!)
 
 
0 # davehaze 2016-04-03 16:06
Wrong wrong wrong this article is wrong. There is never any voting irregularities only Ralph Nader screwing up the Democratically process.

Oh, don't agree with me I am only kidding.
 
 
-1 # crispy 2016-04-06 23:28
got the joke!
 
 
+34 # Robbee 2016-04-03 16:06
says - # ApprehensiveCan uck 2016-02-09 04:57
It is impossible to prevent electronic voting machines from being programmed to give any result that the programmer or a hacker wants.The ONLY way to prevent vote tampering is to use PAPER BALLOTS, as we do in Canada. Each candidate has a scrutineer/s at each polling station who checks that voters are properly registered, given a paper ballot and that it is put into the correct ballot box. After voting closes, the scrutineers record each ballot as it is taken from the ballot box. If their totals aren't the same as the poll clerk's total, the ballots are recounted until everyone agrees with the result. It takes about 30 minutes to count and check 500 ballots. It can't be falsified. Don't be duped into accepting electronic voting machines!
 
 
+14 # tapelt 2016-04-03 19:24
[quote name="Robbee"]I t is impossible to prevent electronic voting machines from being programmed to give any result that the programmer or a hacker wants.

Agree totally. I saw a FRONTLINE episode on this very thing.
 
 
+5 # jimallyn 2016-04-04 00:02
Quoting Robbee:
It is impossible to prevent electronic voting machines from being programmed to give any result that the programmer or a hacker wants.

While I live in Washington State, which has paper ballots and vote by mail, I do not agree that it is impossible to prevent tampering with electronic voting machines. It would probably be more correct to say that it is nearly impossible to tamper with electronic voting machines, IF the source code of the machine's software is readily available for anyone who wishes to inspect. Australia did this years ago. Whichever system a state decides to use, any hardware and software associated with it must be "Open Source" - that is, readily available for anyone to inspect.

http://www.wired.com/2003/11/aussies-do-it-right-e-voting/
 
 
+1 # MsAnnaNOLA 2016-04-04 12:37
Well the attacks that I have seen it may not prevent the attack. The open source does not account for programs that delete themselves after execution.
 
 
+1 # crispy 2016-04-06 23:35
It's better to do paper ballots enough said and see what MsAnnaNOLA notes...
 
 
0 # SusanT136 2016-04-05 11:34
I like the title "scrutineer". Sounds swashbuckling - a cross between a buccaneer and a scrutinizing poll watcher. Love it! And it is indeed a heroic function for democracy's sake.
 
 
+24 # futhark 2016-04-03 17:27
HA! HA! HA! Several years ago I went to a legislative hearing concerning certification of electronic voting machines in California at the California Secretary of State's offices in Sacramento.. Public testimony was invited and dozens of citizens, including myself, testified over the major part of the working day that we did not trust or want these machines to be certified. At the end of the hearing, an "expert" testified that the machines were safe, reliable, and economical. The committee's vote took place after the public dispersed. I read later in a newspaper that the committee recommended certification of the machines, based on widespread public support. The public hearing was simply window-dressing to sweeten a foregone decision contrary to the expressed will of the people.
 
 
+11 # Candie 2016-04-03 21:46
Yeah they can get an expert to say anything they want him to say...it is a joke!
 
 
+23 # Linda 2016-04-03 17:41
The votes were already flipped in MA. and in AZ and probably in other states as well . I watched a video of the AZ counsel's meeting where the people came to give their complaints and were pretty darn angry about the voter suppression in their state . People who were registered voters were turned away and told they couldn't vote because they were registered as Independents . The only problem was these people were actually registered Democrats .Further on in the video to my shock it was admitted that someone had hacked into the voter registry and changed people's party affiliation ,addresses and yet others they plain said were not registered ! This is how Hillary won AZ ! AZ has early voting and what do you know Hillary's supporters voted early ,that was why we saw them call AZ for Hillary before even half of the votes were counted and people were still outside in long lines waiting to vote . Now why do you suppose that was ? Most of the early voters were Hillary supporters!
In MA there were those precincts that had paper ballots that were hand counted and Bernie won all of them but lost in those precincts that had these voting machines ! Exit polls had Bernie winning the state !
That woman can hold her breath before I would ever vote for a cheating, lying despicable person like her ! We fought for the right to vote and here we find our votes don't count ,between flipping the votes and superdelegates they have stripped our right to make our vote count !
 
 
+15 # CL38 2016-04-03 19:16
Investigation and give AZ, MA to Bernie for DNC Hillary interference.
 
 
+4 # tapelt 2016-04-03 19:28
Is this video on YouTube?
 
 
-9 # Robbee 2016-04-03 18:55
dave, in order to believe that EVMs attract vote-counting fraud, you don't have to deny that nader stole the 2000 election, among other "but for" causes, for electing bush 2!

i'm glad for you that your mind works simply and so you never need contemplate multiple causes for bush 2!
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-04-06 23:41
Robbee, come on, Nader did not stop the counting did he? Gore won the popular vote didn't he after counting was completed and published by The Guardian (England)?
 
 
+31 # jussayin 2016-04-03 19:10
Wonder what would happen if the crime of election tampering came with a mandatory sentence of 25 years for all co-conspirators , with no possibility of parole.
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-04-06 23:42
exactly my point above recommending it be a felony (without possibility of ever voting btw)
 
 
+13 # tapelt 2016-04-03 19:27
The best thing you can do to prevent flipping is vote by mail. If you don't have vote by mail, insist on it. Florida does it, and it works very well.
 
 
0 # Helen Marshall 2016-04-04 18:08
About the only good thing about being old in Texas...automat ic "absentee ballot" qualification.. .As if I am too feeble to exit my home once I reach 70...but I'll take it!
 
 
+4 # diamondmarge7 2016-04-03 22:26
First I intended to vote by mail, but later, decided to take my paper ballot to the Elections Office to make sure it didn't get lost in any way. Then I realized that the ballot would probably have been entered into an EVM. PAPER BALLOTS AND COUNTERS/WATCHE RS from all candidates to verify. Wonder how long it will take usually backwards SC??
 
 
+4 # lewagner 2016-04-03 23:40
Don't neglect to vote, though. It's good exercise.
 
 
0 # Helen Marshall 2016-04-04 18:07
Do you mean walking into the voting machine booth or the work of pressing those little boxes on the screen? Not going to replace my treadmill routine.
 
 
+7 # iris 2016-04-04 01:45
lets ask the u.n. to monitor this election .... i smell rotten fish
 
 
0 # crispy 2016-04-06 23:46
even the UN will not guarantee what paper ballots do and The US has certified elections abroad that the UN inspections called fraudulent; that tells u a lot.
I bet the US would ignore a sanction by UN watchers as we are above UN "opinions"
 
 
+6 # PeacefulGarden 2016-04-04 05:42
I once froze a voting machine in PA by doing a write in, I voted for George P. Giraffe. It caused a line to form. I actually felt really bad.
 
 
+4 # JSRaleigh 2016-04-04 07:37
The precinct where I vote here in North Carolina uses machine read (optical scan) paper ballots.

I spoke to someone at the State Board of Elections to find out what is used in other counties. According to them, 70 of North Carolina's 100 counties use the optical scan ballots. There are 30 counties in North Carolina that still use the DRE (touch-screen) machines, but these are being phased out. By 2019, all North Carolina counties are required to be voting using optical scan paper ballots.

The ballots are normally preserved for 22 months after an election, but the State Board told me that "due to current litigation" *ALL* election related materials, including ballots, are being retained indefinitely.

It is currently possible to do a manual recount in most of North Carolina, and by the end of the decade, will be possible statewide.

We may have screwed up voting laws in some respects, but in terms of actually counting the votes of those who are allowed to vote, we appear to be moving in the right direction.
 
 
+2 # Robbee 2016-04-04 11:21
we stand on the shoulders of giants! - says # tapelt 2016-04-03 19:24
[quote name="Robbee"]I t is impossible to prevent electronic voting machines from being programmed to give any result that the programmer or a hacker wants.

when i wrote that i believe i was retweeting dust wrote, hopefully with attribution - in any event dust is my primary source, certainly knows about such matters, and if what i wrote is challenged, only dust knows the truth of it! - go dust! - here's another quote of dust's i shared here -

# Robbee 2015-12-23 22:37
last month dust allowed us to pick brain - here's what dust shared - # Dust 2015-11-09 19:02 "... you can load and run a server running something like Debian Linux or a FreeBSD derivative like FreeNAS, implement something SSL and/or Bluefish for encryption, run your own mail server on it, and use something like Mutt or maybe even Thunderbird for email access (NOT Gmail or whatever) for no cost whatsoever other than the hardware, and your system (assuming no morons using it, which is, I know, a leap) will be pretty secure, though no system truly is."

- i take dust's point - "no system truly is" secure!

- i take snowden's point - government and private corporations have the ability to decrypt whatever communications they want!

i'm sorry about my absolute, abject cynicism, but i believe that anyone who thinks that anything they communicate can be kept secret from anyone who can afford to find it, is foolish - sorry!
 
 
0 # apollobartender 2016-05-23 04:06
If there were ever any consequences and interest in getting to the bottom of it, maybe the behavior would change. So far, we just see people yelling election fraud with bureaucrats vowing to look into it. It never goes further. If people were actually held accountable and sent to prison for a strong period, it might show that our government actually cared that our democracy is getting stolen. We just need to get in first to change it or converge onto the DOJ until it changes. This is really bad.
 

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