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Boardman writes: Given the longstanding, close, bi-partisan ties between U.S. and Honduran governments, especially their military establishments, it is all but inconceivable that high-ranking officials in the Obama administration, perhaps Obama himself, did not have at least some advance notice of (if not involvement in planning) the coup.

Sec. Hillary Clinton. (Photo: Zimbio)
Sec. Hillary Clinton. (Photo: Zimbio)


Why Is Hillary OK With Honduran Death Squads?

By William Boardman, Reader Supported News

18 March 16

 

Honduran assassination has deep American roots if not fingerprints

hen a Honduran death squad gunned down internationally-honored environmental activist Berta Caceres, 44, a retired teacher and mother of four, in her home on March 3, the media-filtered world as we know it took note, briefly, expressed some regret, provided little context, and moved on. The outcry from rest of the real world included demands from the UN, more than 20 U.S. Congress members, and hundreds of NGOs for an independent investigation of this political assassination [a 2014 letter from 108 congressmen to Secretary of State John Kerry calling for the U.S. to address human rights abuses in Honduras had little impact]. Now, in response to a similar request, the U.S. has sent FBI agents to help the Honduran government, whose first action was to detain the only witness, Gustavo Castro Soto, himself shot twice in the same attack (and still in Honduran custody two weeks later).  

What our media-shielded world mostly did not note is that Honduras is one of the original banana republics, long open to corporate plunder under the protection of the U.S. government. Nor was there much attention to longstanding political corruption in Honduras with its “elected” puppet government and major American military presence. Also omitted generally was how Honduras has served as a main base of American military operations at least since the Reagan administration’s illegal and war-crime saturated war against Nicaragua in the 1980s. Several hundred U.S.Marines are deployed in Honduras with official missions to train Hondurans and fight the war on drugs (similar to the missions of 3,500 Marines in Peru and others elsewhere), consistent with U.S. military expansion in Central America during President Obama’s first term. 

But how could any of this be relevant to the assassination of yet another Honduran activist defending human rights, defending the rights of indigenous people, defending the environment, or defending the Honduran majority against military repression? None of the people currently running for president have apparently thought it worth more than a passing comment at most, not even Bernie Sanders, whose vision of an America run by billionaires has long been a grotesque reality in oligarchical Honduras. Pretty much irrelevantly, Sanders did take a glancing swipe at Clinton’s relationship with Honduras (rated “Mostly True” by Politifact) during their March 9 debate:

One of the great human tragedies of recent years is children came from Honduras where there's more violence than in any place in this country, and they came into this country…. And I said welcome these children into this country. Secretary Clinton said, send them back. [This omits Clinton’s lawyerly conditions for expatriation, but accurately characterizes her bottom line: “Send them back.”]

So why are Honduran children fleeing in the first place?

Perhaps the most interesting contextual aspect of the Berta Caceres assassination is that it’s an extension of American “engagement” in Honduras and provides a lucid paradigm of foreign policy as Hillary Clinton practices it.  

On June 27, 2009, Honduras had a legitimately elected president, Manuel Zelaya, himself a multi-millionaire oligarch, who was accused of instigating a months-long power struggle over whether he could extend his term-limited presidency by democratic but constitutionally-challenged, nonviolent means. Zelaya denied this intent, saying he would leave office as scheduled in January 2010. His opposition, including the Congress, attorney general, and Supreme Court, were holding their own in June. Congress had begun to consider impeachment. The stated issue was apparently not the real issue.   

In the mid-1970s, Zelaya’s father had been convicted for taking part in the massacre of at least 15 priests, students, and other protestors, killed by Honduran military forces. Victims’ bodies were burned, castrated, and otherwise mutilated. In 1980, Zelaya’s father was freed by an amnesty after less than two years of a 20-year sentence. Zelaya, during his rise to the presidency, was accused of embezzling all or part of a missing $40 million, but he was not prosecuted. He won the presidency in 2005 with 45.6% of the vote. Zelaya ran as a traditional Honduran conservative from the Liberal Party and seemed at first to be no great threat to the Honduran sense of order, control, and wealth distribution. The National Party accused the Supreme Electoral Tribunal of gross errors and contested Zelaya’s 3.4% margin of victory, only to concede the election ten days later.

Once in office, Zelaya started doing things that displeased the elites as well as the United States. He led Honduras to join ALBA (the Bolivarian Alliance for the Peoples of Our America), founded in 2004 by Venezuela and Cuba to promote social, political, and economic integration of Latin countries. Although the U.S. remained Honduras’s main trading partner, Zelaya pursued expanded trade with Oceania and Africa. His foreign policy included improving relations with Hugo Chavez and Raul Castro. This alienated Honduran business elites, as did his other initiatives, including: education for all children, subsidies to small farmers, lower bank interest rates, an 80% increase in the minimum wage, and numerous programs that reduced poverty by 10% in Honduras (one of the world’s poorer countries with a 62.8% poverty rate in 2014, substantially higher than when Zelaya was in office). For three years, Honduran mass media, owned by just six families (media concentration similar to the U.S.) provided little unbiased coverage, leading Zelaya to invoke a little-used law to force the media to carry government broadcasts. 

U.S.-sanctioned military coup ended Honduran non-crisis

On June 28, 2009, Honduran military forces seized President Zelaya and took him to a nearby U.S. military base. From there, Zelaya was sent into exile in Costa Rica, setting off protests around the region and the world, including a UN General Assembly resolutionon June 30, with Zelaya present at the UN (in Washington, Obama officials refused to meet with him). The resolution, agreed to by consensus, unanimously condemned the coup and demanded immediate, unconditional restoration of democratically-elected President Zelaya. The U.S., by choosing not to block the consensus, managed to avoid voting for or against a resolution that condemned its own proxies’ actions. 

In October 2009, UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon issued a statement re-affirming the June resolution that “condemns the coup d’état in the Republic of Honduras that has interrupted the democratic and constitutional order and the legitimate exercise of power in Honduras.” 

At least part of the explanation for U.S. duplicity was made clear in an email to Clinton from Tom Shannon, Assistant Secretary for Western Hemisphere Affairs, saying that he planned on “calling the new SouthCom Commander to ensure a coordinated U.S. approach [since] we have big military equities in Honduras through Joint Task Force Bravo at Soto Cano airbase.” Coincidentally or not, Shannon was in Honduras a week before the coup, consulting with the military and civilian groups later involved in the coup.

Given the longstanding, close, bi-partisan ties between U.S. and Honduran governments, especially their military establishments, it is all but inconceivable that high-ranking officials in the Obama administration, perhaps Obama himself, did not have at least some advance notice of (if not involvement in planning) the coup. How else does the Honduran military take a president at gunpoint and fly him to a U.S. military base only to be welcomed with open arms? 

The Obama administration has never offered a credible, principled explanation for indirectly supporting and directly securing the Honduran coup. Early on, President Obama gave appropriate lip service to opposing the coup: “We believe that the coup was not legal and that President Zelaya remains the democratically elected president there.” By avoiding calling the transparent military coup a “military coup,” Obama avoided triggering an American law that would have imposed significant sanctions against Honduras and especially the Honduran military. Instead, the Obama administration applied only token sanctions, did little to resist Republican support for the coup government, maneuvered to take the issue out of public view, and acted as if the Honduran government’s investigation of itself was sufficient response. The point person in this exercise in anti-democracy was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who described her actions in her official autobiography “Hard Choices” (now out in paperback with the Honduran section scrubbed). 

Hillary Clinton’s “diplomacy” whitewashed the military coup

As Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton was excellently positioned to move the question of the Honduran military coup out of the potentially pro-democratic forum of the Organization of American States into more sheltered talks that included both Zelaya and his appointed successor, Roberto Micheletti Bain, who publicly offered to step down during the summer of 2009 on the condition Zelaya would not return to power. During that same period, Clinton received an email from Ann-Marie Slaughter, then director of policy planning at the State Department, strongly urging her to “take bold action … find that [the] coup was a ‘military coup’ under U.S. law,” a position the administration had refused to take for the prior six weeks. Slaughter’s August 16 email added:

I got lots of signals last week that we are losing ground in Latin America every day the Honduras crisis continues; high level people from both the business and the NGO community say that even our friends are beginning to think we are not really committed to the norm of constitutional democracy we have worked so hard to build over the last 20 year [sic]. The current stalemate favors the status quo; the de facto regime has every incentive to run out the clock as long as they think we will have to accept any post-election government. I urge you to think about taking bold action now to breathe new life into the process and signal that regardless what happens on the Hill, you and the president are serious.

No such seriousness was forthcoming from the administration. Clinton, with no interference from Obama, played out the clock until bogus elections, held under the complete control of the coup government, could produce a result satisfactory to the U.S. The State Department kept negotiations alive among a variety of parties (including Zelaya and Micheletti) until it was effectively too late to have a meaningful democratic election. During September and October, Micheletti suspended five basic constitutional rights (including freedom of association, movement, speech, and personal liberty, as well as habeas corpus). On October 30, a joke of an “agreement” was announced by mediator and Costa Rican president Oscar Arias. Under this agreement, Zelaya was to be reinstated, almost powerless, in the final weeks before the election, which would remain under the control of the coup government, and even this farce included its own poison pill: the requirement  that the Honduran Congress approve Zelaya’s temporary reinstatement. Not surprisingly, the agreement was never realized, in part because four days later, the U.S. said it would honor the coup government’s “elections” whether Zelaya was ever reinstated or not. So much for the restoration of democracy in Honduras under Secretary Clinton. 

What good is an election that doesn’t confirm the power structure? 

The November 27 sham election held under the control of a “unity government” that included no constitutionally-legitimate members, was punctuated by police violence and widespread media censorship. The winner was Porfirio Lobo Sosa, another multi-millionaire agricultural oligarch, who had lost to Zelaya in 2009. In an election boycotted by numerous candidates and with a turnout 6% lower than 2005, Lobos won 56.6% of the vote. The result was rejected by Spain and 11 Latin American countries, but widely accepted by the U.S. and its allies – and got a hypocritically glowing gloss from Assistant Secretary Shannon in an email to Clinton aide Cheryl Mills that falsely hyped the voter turnout:

The turnout (probably a record) and the clear rejection of the Liberal Party shows our approach was the right one, and puts Brazil and others who would not recognize the election in an impossible position. As we think about what to say, I would strongly recommend that we not be shy. We should congratulate the Honduran people, we should connect today's vote to the deep democratic vocation of the Honduran people, and we should call on the community of democratic nations (and especially those of the Americas) to recognize, respect, and respond to this accomplishment of the Honduran people…. 

As president, Lobo presided over the further descent of Honduras (literally “the depths”) into violence, chaos, and corruption. Political assassinations now run to the hundreds as Honduras has achieved the highest murder rate in the world. Lobo (and now his dubious successor) have nurtured a vicious but U.S.-friendly government that has allowed its country to grow so violent that Hondurans flee northward by the thousands, while those who stay behind to resist are murdered by the hundreds. The environmental organization Global Witness, which tracks assassinations of environmentalists worldwide, found Honduras the most dangerous country per capita for environmental activists. 

Among Clinton’s foreign policy achievements, Honduras may or may not be more disastrous than Libya. In “Hard Choices,” Clinton assessed Honduras this way:

We strategized on a plan to restore order in Honduras and ensure that free and fair elections could be held quickly and legitimately, which would render the question of Zelaya moot.

In retrospect, the “strategy” failed to restore order, ensured no free and fair elections, nor any legitimate election – but it did effectively legitimize a military coup undertaken in America’s interest (as in Haiti or Egypt – sorry, Madagascar). 

Clinton’s record seems unknown only to Americans  

In a healthy democracy, one might expect candidates for president to challenge the one who actively supported a military coup that helped turn an impoverished country into an expanding charnel house. In the United States in 2016, the devastation produced by American foreign policy is an issue only for those who see it as inadequate. In the home countries, American depredation is not such a secret, least of all to those who resist it. In 2014, more than a year before her assassination, Berta Caceres named Clinton as one of the perpetrators of Honduran suffering (translated):

We’re coming out of a coup that we can’t put behind us. We can’t reverse it. It just kept going. And after, there was the issue of the elections. The same Hillary Clinton, in her book, Hard Choices, practically said what was going to happen in Honduras. This demonstrates the meddling of North Americans in our country. The return of the president, Mel Zelaya, became a secondary issue. There were going to be elections in Honduras. And here, she, Clinton, recognized that they didn’t permit Mel Zelaya’s return to the presidency. There were going to be elections. And the international community – officials, the government, the grand majority – accepted this, even though we warned this was going to be very dangerous and that it would permit a barbarity, not only in Honduras but in the rest of the continent. And we’ve been witnesses to this.[emphasis added]

Writing in The Nationhistorian Greg Grandin amplified what Caceres meant when she warned that Clinton policy “was going to be very dangerous.” Once the sham election installed a U.S.-compliant government, Honduras adopted Washington-sponsored terrorism and counterintelligence laws that criminalized political protest. Clinton’s policy consolidated the power of murderers, Grandin noted, and led to the murder of Caceres:

Well, that’s just one horror. I mean, hundreds of peasant activists and indigenous activists have been killed. Scores of gay rights activists have been killed. I mean, it’s just—it’s just a nightmare in Honduras. I mean there’s ways in which the coup regime basically threw up Honduras to transnational pillage. And Berta Cáceres, in that interview, says what was installed after the coup was something like a permanent counterinsurgency on behalf of transnational capital. And that was—that wouldn’t have been possible if it were not for Hillary Clinton’s normalization of that election, or legitimacy.

Of course, it was also Obama’s discreet blessing of a predator state that keeps Honduras bleeding. There’s blood enough for his hands as well as Clinton’s and all the apparatchiks at the White House and State Department who enthusiastically helped this enduring crime against humanity go down.

And now there is another victim that we know about among the hundreds still unknown. On March 15, another death squad (or perhaps the same one) shot a man four times in the face in his home. He was a member of the same indigenous people’s organization as Caceres (she is one of 14 members killed so far). He was Nelson Noe Garcia Lainez, 39, father of five and a community leader. His execution followed a violent government eviction of indigenous people from their homes because they were protesting the megadam project (Agua Zarca, funded in part by USAID) that would destroy their ancestral land.   

The Associated Press reported, with profound but apparently unintended irony: “The United States Embassy condemned the killing, saying that ‘coming so close to the murder of his colleague Berta Cáceres, his death is cause for particular concern.’” So it would not be a cause for concern had it happened later?

When Latino USA asked if Clinton “is still proud of the hell she helped routinize in Honduras,” a Clinton spokesperson said criticism of Clinton’s Honduras policy “simply nonsense.” Clinton is not known to have expressed regret for any part of her Honduran activities, not even sending children back to hell. Running an empire ain’t for sissies.



William M. Boardman has over 40 years experience in theatre, radio, TV, print journalism, and non-fiction, including 20 years in the Vermont judiciary. He has received honors from Writers Guild of America, Corporation for Public Broadcasting, Vermont Life magazine, and an Emmy Award nomination from the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences.

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-66 # revhen 2016-03-18 10:05
Look, everyone, Hillary ain't perfect but she's the best bet to keep the bigoted, cretinous, Repubs out of TOTAL power over our lives. I basically agree with Bernie's positions, but I'm also practical. Let's hope for a combo team of Hillary/Bernie where the latter can keep the former's feet to the fire.
 
 
+75 # wrknight 2016-03-18 11:03
Hillary will never select Bernie to be a running mate. His values are incompatible with her values.

And her values are incompatible with mine.
 
 
+24 # MsAnnaNOLA 2016-03-18 12:26
Like Night and Day!
 
 
+20 # RGV.REG 2016-03-18 18:10
How about having Hillary drop out and endorse Bernie.
 
 
-2 # lfeuille 2016-03-19 23:15
She won't so why bother speculating?
 
 
0 # WBoardman 2016-03-24 18:16
"She won't so why bother speculating?"

is itself

speculation ;-)))
 
 
+8 # lfeuille 2016-03-18 16:51
And if she did, I hope he would refuse. We'd be much better off with him in the Senate where he could tell the truth.
 
 
+48 # WBoardman 2016-03-18 11:17
revhen correctly observes that the Republican choices
are more unappealing than Hillary,
but then illogically wants to rally around Hillary NOW,
while the game is still on
(however lopsided the score may seem).

Let's not argue the lesser-evil-cho ice
as long as we have an actual good choice available. ;-)))

As for "hope" – well, really, remember 2008.
Once a candidate is in office,
hope is just another thing with feathers....
 
 
+42 # Douglas Jack 2016-03-18 11:58
HILLARY's WAR CRIMES (short list): http://HillaryIsANeocon.com

- says President Obama wasn't wrong to launch Syria missile strikes 2013.
- pushed hard for overthrow of Qadaffi 2011.
- supports coup government in Honduras 2009.
- backed escalation & prolongation of war in Afghanistan.
- vote for 2003 Iraq invasion.
- skillfully promoted White House justification for war on Iraq.
- doesn't hesitate to back use of drones for targeted killing.
- consistently backs military initiatives of Israel.
- laughs at killing of Qadaffi.
- doesn't hesitate to warn that she could obliterate Iran.
- isn't afraid to antagonize Russia.
- helps facilitate military coup in Ukraine.
- has financial support of arms makers & foreign customers.
- waives restrictions for State Department selling weapons to Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Oman, & Qatar, all states wise enough to donate to Clinton Foundation.
She supported President Bill Clinton's wars & power of president to make war without Congress.
- advocates arming fighters in Syria.
- supports surge in Iraq before President Bush did.
". . . she's one of the more competent members of the current administration & it'd be interesting to speculate about how she might perform were she to be president." Dick Cheney
"She ran the State Department in the most effective way that I've ever seen." Henry Kissinger
"For this former Republican . . . the only choice will be to vote for Hillary Clinton." Robert Kagan
 
 
+26 # grandlakeguy 2016-03-18 15:16
Please add to the list:
-sided with Republicans (and Lieberman) while a Senator to defeat an amendment that would have prohibited the continued manufacture and deployment of cluster bombs.
 
 
+16 # Douglas Jack 2016-03-18 16:29
Grandlakeguy, Good Cluster-Bomb voting record to add to Hillary's WAR-CRIME's list, which is particularly salient given death & injury to children & civilian populations.
 
 
+26 # Radscal 2016-03-18 16:06
As Senator, Ms. Clinton voted for:

Confirmation of NeoCons:

Condoleezza Rice for Secretary of State
Robert Gates, Secretary of Defense
Alberto R. Gonzales, Attorney General
(and then as Sec. of State, she promoted NeoCon Victoria Nuland to Asst. Sec. of State, leading to Ukraine coup)

"Free Trade" Agreements:

HR 2739: 
U.S.-Singapore Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act
S 3569
: U.S. -Oman Free Trade Agreement
 S 3711"
Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act

"Drill, baby, drill."

S Amdt 2480: 
Border Fence and Customs Appropriations
Remember how much liberals hated McCain for wanting to "build the damn fence" and now deride Trump for "the wall?" Yeah, she voted for it.

 S 1050
: Fiscal 2004 Defense Authorization

Ended the decades-old ban on new nuclear weapon development.

HR 3162: 
USA Patriot Act of 2001
And then twice more voted to reauthorize and expand its powers

Establishing the Department of Homeland Security

HR 1
: No Child Left Behind Act
This was GW Bush's signature destruction and privatization of public education
 
 
+11 # Douglas Jack 2016-03-18 16:53
Radscal, Thanks for your ongoing deep research & RSN many 1000s of times, for providing this research-exchan ge forum. My comment above is at exactly the 1500 character limit, but Grandlakeguy & your additional information needs to be composed into a more complete article on Hillary Clinton's WAR-CRIMES. RSN's extended forum has allowed us to get to know Hillary supporters & particularly their ignorance/innoc ence about her violent record of initiating & supporting 'state-terrorism'.

Hillary's voting record & acts in positions of state-authority show a deep social-patholog y away from what anyone could call acceptable. If Hillary were faced with her own unsupportable record described here, she would require the most twisted logics to make it seem acceptable. The problem being that there is no feedback system within our colonial system which allows us to engage war-criminals even with simple truth.

Mohandas Gandhi recognized lying colonial pathology in relations with British, Canadian, Australian, New-Zealand & US colonial authority in India. Gandhi helped implement 'Satyagraha' (Hindi 'truth-search') based on bringing together people of India's diverse backgrounds in dialogue. Gandhi started with "What are your best intentions & how can we help you fulfill these?" Its remarkable that Gandhi understood how dialogues at the bottom are as important as those at the top. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues
 
 
+5 # Radscal 2016-03-18 20:43
And thank you, Douglas for your consistently well reasoned, informative and spiritually uplifting posts.
 
 
+16 # Johnny 2016-03-18 16:26
If it comes down to Hillary v. the Donald, all Americans of conscience will stay home or vote for Jill Stein.
 
 
+18 # Billsy 2016-03-18 14:04
Polls indicate otherwise as Clinton fares less well than Sanders against Drumpf. It's naive to think Sanders would ever serve as her V.P. He has more use remaining in the Senate but wait and see. The primary isn't over yet and Bernie's states are next on the list.
 
 
+16 # Johnny 2016-03-18 16:25
No decent human being could ever vote for Headchopper Hillary, Bride of Frankenfoods.
 
 
+2 # lfeuille 2016-03-18 16:49
No she isn't. Bernie is. It takes a populist to beat a populist.
 
 
+4 # RLF 2016-03-20 06:47
Think You've got it wrong revhen...Hillar y IS a "bigoted, cretinous Repub."
 
 
0 # fletch1165 2016-03-21 07:48
She is a traitor. She works for Goldman Sachs and her bank accounts. Warrants should be issued and she should be rotting in the Hague with Bush in the next cell. We need more rats like Nazi Germany needed more of Goebbels.
 
 
+1 # fletch1165 2016-03-21 07:40
Children on the street knew there were no WOMD in Iraq yet Hillary pandered to the Bush Administration AT EVERY STEP, including sitting in the Green Zone whooping it up with McCain and preaching the wonders of the Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran campaign. We will never forget how the traitor Hillary defended war criminals and herself embraced the corporate death machine. Until they are in prison there is no justice and America is worse than Nazi Germany. Hillary, Bush and Hitler. The same. The body count does not lie.
 
 
+47 # Anonymot 2016-03-18 10:18
The Lady Of The Lip has no real beliefs beyond her kind of women's rights. If it gets her a vote or some dollars (which she sees as identical) then she will say anything. She is cruel, vindictive, and obedient to Deep State. Her knowledge is shallow, although she has great expertise in vote getting and money raising which is the current level of most political minds.

I would rather see an honest, forthright enemy in power than a dishonest, superficial "friend". Malcolm X made that very clear and he was right then, right now.
 
 
+8 # Douglas Jack 2016-03-18 14:49
Anonymot, RE: "If it gets her a vote or some dollars (which she sees as identical) then she will say anything. She is cruel, vindictive, and obedient to Deep State." Well stated!

Hillary exemplifies Deep State as a $$$ belief system so as to describe its hidden composition in her acts. Its important for us to understand the Deep State as the foundation of the last 7000 years of colonialism.
Your comment below RE: In Honduras, "United Fruit & US Marines . . . were there for other corporate scams, not drugs, I believe." Of course colonial-contro l, corporate scams, drugs & Bill-Hillary's cocaine addiction, are one & the same thing.

Hillary & most of Congress' love of Israel, one of the financial centre's of trillionaire capital ownership through Rothschild exemplifies love of colonialism as their highest 'trickle-down' value. Through church, mosque & synagogue / Bible, Koran & Torah, as Semite descendants, we're all indoctrinated into the heroism of invading, murdering & controlling those people we perceive as 'inferior' upon who's doorsteps we refuge. As we flee-ecological -&-economic-des truction-of-our -own-creation in Babylon, Levant, Turkey, Greece, Rome, Europe, Sahara, Sahel, Asia, Australia & even the vastness of the Americas, here we are again destroying all life remaining in Babylon, Palestine-Phili stine-Israel & Mayan Honduras.

To get out of this mess, we must understand 'indigenous' economy. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/relational-economy
 
 
+31 # Shades of gray matter 2016-03-18 10:25
Selfishly, I fear Trump the most, then Cruz, then GOPers period. But I do wish that when Bernie next calls out Hillary for "sending kids back" into hell, he would say some strong things about why they were fleeing. I hope BS takes advantage of this lull to FINALLY bone up on some foreign policy specifics.
 
 
-4 # siva24549 2016-03-18 10:37
How come this article does not point the accusing finger at the Obama administration for these dark deeds in Honduras? Obama rules in my opinion with an iron hand and he will not allow a Secretary of State to fashion governmental policy regarding Honduras. I am more angry with Obama than Hillary, because this man cheated the young people and the progressives who helped him to win the election. However, he is still better than a Republican Party president.
 
 
+26 # WBoardman 2016-03-18 11:10
siva24549 needs to read more carefully –
this article points clearly at the Obama administration,
which should be implicit in any Secretary of State actions,
unless one assumes facts not in evidence.

From the article:

"The Obama administration has never offered a credible, principled explanation for indirectly supporting and directly securing the Honduran coup. Early on, President Obama gave appropriate lip service to opposing the coup: “We believe that the coup was not legal and that President Zelaya remains the democratically elected president there.” By avoiding calling the transparent military coup a “military coup,” Obama avoided triggering an American law that would have imposed significant sanctions against Honduras and especially the Honduran military. Instead, the Obama administration applied only token sanctions, did little to resist Republican support for the coup government, maneuvered to take the issue out of public view, and acted as if the Honduran government’s investigation of itself was sufficient response. The point person in this exercise in anti-democracy was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who described her actions in her official autobiography “Hard Choices” (now out in paperback with the Honduran section scrubbed)."
 
 
+28 # WBoardman 2016-03-18 11:10
Also from the article:

"Of course, it was also Obama’s discreet blessing of a predator state that keeps Honduras bleeding. There’s blood enough for his hands as well as Clinton’s and all the apparatchiks at the White House and State Department who enthusiasticall y helped this enduring crime against humanity go down."
 
 
+12 # Anonymot 2016-03-18 11:48
And all of this was birthed long ago by the CIA before it was the prime party of Deep State in the CIA Contras affair. I find it extremely interesting that our current heroin epidemic swirls around our other favorites, Afghanistan and Hillary/Obama's new found buddies, the Generals of Burma.
 
 
+11 # Anonymot 2016-03-18 12:04
I should add that the nepharious Oliver North, friend of Noriega and others in the drug chain is now assisting the Clintons' campaign. I wish a good investigative reporter would dig though the entire question of our politicians and bureaucrats and who gets the money in America from the drug trade. All I know is that there are links written between the lines everywere.
 
 
+13 # WBoardman 2016-03-18 12:15
The CIA came late to Honduras.

United Fruit and US Marines were there
over a century ago.
 
 
+4 # Anonymot 2016-03-18 12:58
Yes, but they were there for other corporate scams, not drugs, I believe.
 
 
+6 # lfeuille 2016-03-18 16:59
It does. But Hillary is named in the title because she is the one running for president. Obama is soon to be history. Hillary is the current problem.
 
 
+21 # reiverpacific 2016-03-18 10:38
"Several hundred U.S.Marines are deployed in Honduras with official missions to train Hondurans and fight the war on drugs (similar to the missions of 3,500 Marines in Peru and others elsewhere), consistent with U.S. military expansion in Central America during President Obama’s first term."
To use a well-know UK phrase; "Pull the other leg -it's got bells on"!
Even reasonably decently-educat ed middle-class Americans -by US standard anyway, are astonishingly ignorant and incurious -via "Panem et Circences" about what is done in their name across the globe, for the benefit of their Military-Corpor ate overlords, as reported or more like avoided by the appalling owner-media, hence their support of the latest manifestation of a firmly entrenched, military-driven status-quo dynasty, who can't see a conflict she doesn't want to get her hands bloodied in to help put down any upstart resistant movement and it's leaders who wish to attempt self-determinat ion and/or block environmental devastation in their own country.
It's also appalling to see someone once resistant to the US Vietnam adventurism, John Kerry, now a billionaire independent of his Heinz-heiress wife, going along with -even pushing for the constant invasions, usurpations, interferences, training and arming death squads to keep the Central Americas under the dominant jackboot of the most egregious Oligarchy in the world, as mini-me mirrors of itself.
 
 
+33 # wrknight 2016-03-18 10:53
"Clinton’s record seems unknown only to Americans"

That's because MSM in the U.S. is the official organ of the 1% who control our government. We don't get news from MSM, we get regurgitated bullshit.

To put an end to this crap, we (the 99%) have to wake up and retake control of our government. Is it possible? Yes, it is. But not until we stop drinking the Kool-aid from the MSM firehose.

So cancel your Times, Post and other MSM subscriptions and subscribe to RSN. Then find out who the politicians are that are paid off by the 1% and fire their dumb asses. And in order to get rid of their dumb asses, be sure to vote in primary elections because if you don't, it will be too late and you will be left with only two choices, Tweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum both of them being owned by the corporatocracy.
 
 
0 # reiverpacific 2016-03-21 10:44
Quoting wrknight:
"Clinton’s record seems unknown only to Americans"

That's because MSM in the U.S. is the official organ of the 1% who control our government. We don't get news from MSM, we get regurgitated bullshit.

To put an end to this crap, we (the 99%) have to wake up and retake control of our government. Is it possible? Yes, it is. But not until we stop drinking the Kool-aid from the MSM firehose.

So cancel your Times, Post and other MSM subscriptions and subscribe to RSN. Then find out who the politicians are that are paid off by the 1% and fire their dumb asses. And in order to get rid of their dumb asses, be sure to vote in primary elections because if you don't, it will be too late and you will be left with only two choices, Tweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum both of them being owned by the corporatocracy.


That's what I meant by "Panem et Circences".
 
 
+27 # danireland46 2016-03-18 10:59
I've said it before and I'll say it again; I feel it in my bones, this is a cold, selfish, dangerous, woman. In one of her recent debates, she accused Bernie of not caring for immigrants. He turned the tables on her by pointing out her role, while Sec. of State, of facilitating regime change in Honduras, causing it to become a dangerous, narco embroiled state, forcing frightened people to flee from. Then she compounded the horror by sending back young Hondurans, a number of which were murdered upon their return.
She's all about appearing strong to impress the MIC, and her WS financial backers, not about showing humanity.
 
 
-37 # turnoutthelights 2016-03-18 11:10
Author is a crypto-Republic an tool.
 
 
+23 # WBoardman 2016-03-18 11:20
turnoutthelight s might consider
turning on the lights and explaining
his(?) ad hominem aspersion ;-)))
 
 
+13 # MsAnnaNOLA 2016-03-18 12:32
It is her record and she has to live with it. I think if her record had been more widely reported we would not have her thrust upon us as a candidate.

She lost her chance when Obama beat her. If she had stayed on the bench I think she might have a better chance now. The bad record as SOS and the corruption of the Clinton Foundation will lose the election for her. These attacks have yet to start.
 
 
+7 # reiverpacific 2016-03-18 14:34
Quoting turnoutthelights:
Author is a crypto-Republican tool.


Please back up that piece of -in my 'umble opinion- idiotic, crypto-ignoramu s fool-spawn, with some reasons.
This aint FOX News y'know.
We prefer discussion to declamation, especially if it's right out of the padded cell.
 
 
+3 # curmudgeon 2016-03-18 11:59
In a Hillary/Trump matchup.....

My order of preferences:
1. Jill Stein
2. Donald Trump
100. Hillary Clinton

In A Hillary/Cruz..K asich matchup
1. Jill Stein
35. Hillary Clinton
1000. Cruz
1001. Kasich
 
 
+4 # wrknight 2016-03-18 16:16
Bear in mind, if Jill Stein or any other third party or independent candidate gets enough votes so that no candidate gets a clear majority (over 50%) of electors in the electoral college, the election is turned over to the House of Representatives . There is no run-off election. With no clear majority in the electoral college and a clear majority in the House of Representatives , the Republicans win the presidency regardless of popular vote or the electoral college.

That's one of the very few defects in the Constitution.
 
 
+5 # Billy Bob 2016-03-18 19:10
That's not true. Bill Clinton won with less than 50% because of Ross Perot taking away more votes from Daddy Bush. I just looked it up to be sure. He only got 43% of the vote.
 
 
+4 # Radscal 2016-03-18 20:47
You're absolutely correct on the popular vote. But in the electoral college, Perot got Zero, so Bill Clinton won with 370 to GWH Bush's 168.

http://www.270towin.com/1992_Election/index.html
 
 
+4 # Billy Bob 2016-03-18 23:03
But, is there really a requirement that one candidate get 50% of the electoral vote, to leave it out of the House? If so, this is the first time I've heard of it.

By the way, I never understood why Gore thought he could win in the Supreme Court in 2000. It SHOULD have gone to the House then. Yeah, he would have lost there too, but it would have been obvious to the average person that the election was stolen by a Republican Congress, and maybe there would have been consequences.

I've had a lot of questions about that era. I also never understood why there were no attempts to rescue people off of the top floors of the World Trade Center with helicopters.
 
 
+3 # Radscal 2016-03-19 00:56
1. Yes.

From Amendment XII

"The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President."

2. It was Bush who took the FL recount to the USSC, not Gore. Of course, his team did that to stop the recount at a moment that FL Sec. of State Katherine Harris knew he was ahead.

And, that USSC ruling overrode the FL state constitution, which required a full recount. So much for the "states' rights" party, eh?

If, after FL, neither candidate had the required 270 electoral votes, then it would have gone to the House.

3. The official conspiracy theory on 9/11 holds that the doors to the roof of the Towers were locked, so no people were able to get there to be rescued.
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2016-03-19 08:24
Good reply.
 
 
0 # Rainphase 2016-03-22 23:52
http://www.fairvote.org/pass_rcv_act

Petition for the Ranked Choice Voting Act.

Ranked Choice Voting is present in a few cities but it ought to be national

Third party candidates really don't stand a chance otherwise
 
 
+1 # Shades of gray matter 2016-03-18 12:24
It seems as if all U.S. presidents, starting with Ike, have let the CIA-complex have their way overseas. When JFK insinuated he might not, he got disappeared from life. Obama seems to be in the process of taking many weaponized drones away from our "intelligence gatherers." Seems like a good idea. Sometimes it's way too tempting to talk in very declarative, even arrogant, ways about things we know almost nothing about. Interesting studies show that Americans are most highly confident of their (changing) beliefs when they're 19.
That's actually a wonderful age for modesty, humility, restraint, asking questions rather than asserting answers, no?
 
 
+2 # Douglas Jack 2016-03-18 19:06
Shades, 19 is typically the age at which we send boys & girls overseas as part of our killing & economy-exploit ation machines. The young are easily impressionable after 14 years of institutional segregation & behaviour modification in schools, church, synagogue, mosque & 1000s of hours of killing at computer games designed by the CIA & military as well as other hierarchy controlled activity. You can ask such controlled young people to do just about anything & they will. JFK, Robert Kennedy, Chelsea Manning & Edward Snowden having the guts to stand up to a nation of cowards are entirely the exception.

It would be a blessing to have young people as you say, "talk in very declarative, even arrogant, ways about things", which disturb their sense of moral values & for which they wish to know more. Socrates, 2500 years ago in response to the colonial institutional Sophist schools of Athens in Greece implemented 'academic' (in the Athen's garden of Academus') 'education' (Latin 'to-lead-forth- from-within') based upon 'Dialectic-Righ ts' in which all had the right to engage their fellow students, teachers, administrators & citizens in 'debate' (French 'de' = 'undo' + 'bate' = 'the-fight'). To undo war, all of us should be engaging our fellows in both-sided, equal-time, recorded & published dialogues for all the issues of our shared existence widely circulated. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues
 
 
+17 # PABLO DIABLO 2016-03-18 12:29
Hillary has been a disaster in Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Libya, Yemen, Syria, Honduras. WAKE UP AMERICA.
 
 
+11 # mmyerson 2016-03-18 13:04
I'm surprised Boardman didn't mention the role of Lanny Davis, formerly counsel to Bill Clinton during his presidency and impeachment process, and longtime political fixer for the Clintons. At the time of the Honduran coup and following, Davis was attorney for the Honduran Business Council, which engineered the coup, and, in that position, was the go-between for Hillary and the Honduran junta.
 
 
+6 # WBoardman 2016-03-18 14:03
mmyerson raises a good point

my omission of Davis was due to my being
less certain of his role than mmyerson,
and I didn't need to speculate to make the argument.

Davis acknowledges his role here:
http://lannyjdavis.com/clients/correcting-the-record/honduran-business-council/
but with his own spin, to be sure

How do we KNOW the Honduran Business Council
"engineered the coup" ?
 
 
+1 # Douglas Jack 2016-03-18 19:49
Consider Lanny Davis' problem as having ECOLOGICAL & ECONOMIC ILLITERACY & INNUMERACY, typical of colonial indoctrinated & institutionaliz ed people & almost the whole Foreign Service. From an 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generatin g') holistic-scienc e interdisciplina ry perspective, Lanny is unable to calculate the complexities of collaborative human relations nor of biosphere based ecological productivity, hence falling victim to short-sighted mechanical engineering calculations. Without understanding the biosphere which supports life, Lanny is making decisions & providing arms & mercenary financing for implementing Hillary Clinton's colonial agenda & illiteracy.

Radscal gives a good reference in his web-link below to Democracy-Now Amy Goodman's interview with assassinated Berta Caceres daughter Berta & Lilian Esperanza Lopez. Of many issues for the murders, the building of the Agua Zarca Dam, a project planned along a river sacred to the indigenous Lenca people.

There is a huge mental disconnect for those such as Lanny who are educationally diploma-certifi ed institutionally -segregated & removed from indigenous wisdom about the huge food, materials, energy & water-cycle productivity of nature's Polyculture Orchards. 50% of electrical production is lost in transmission infrastructure & EMF dispersal from Central generators. Kinetic energy from living river systems is far more effective. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/design/9-complementary-energy
 
 
+6 # Radscal 2016-03-18 16:47
Today on DemocracyNow!, Amy Goodman had as guests the daughter of Berta Cáceres (also named Berta) and Lilian Esperanza Lopez who, along with others from the Honduran environmental/h uman rights movement (COPINH) are now in the US, trying to bring more attention to the horrors ongoing there since the US-supported coup.

They are calling for the US to examine Berta's and other assassinations and to alter US support for the terrorist state.

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/18/slain_activist_berta_caceras_daughter_us
 
 
+5 # elkingo 2016-03-18 17:39
What are we to do when the ostensibly better folks (Democrats) are monsters too? We must rid the world of the capitalist nation-state system.

"The worst are full of passionate intensity
And the best lack all conviction."
Yeats
 
 
+4 # elkingo 2016-03-18 17:49
Smedley Butler, Commandant of the Marine Corps, and author of the wonderful pamphlet "War is a Racket" (it's on the net) - tells of how said Marine Corps was the "muscle" of the United Fruit Company back then - and how they (USMC) could have "taught Capone a few tricks". An elecion campaign issue of the day (pre-WWI) was whether to take the Marines out of Nicaragua or not.
 
 
+4 # Archie1954 2016-03-20 11:41
The points made in this article are proof positive that US hegemony is a disaster for other nations. It seems that international law is more honoured in the breach than in the observance by the US. It is also apparent that American foreign policy is deleterious to the indigenous peoples of the World. To Americans, they are so much cannon fodder. American omelet making has to break a few eggs after all, and Ms. Clinton is one hell of a cook. She leaves broken eggs from the Middle East and Africa to Central America and doesn't break a sweat doing it! I find her totally despicable!
 

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