Hensch writes: "Documentary filmmaker Michael Moore said late Tuesday that Sen. Bernie Sanders won the first Democratic presidential debate. Moore praised Sanders's handling of both fiscal and racial issues."
Michael Moore. (photo: unknown)
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Michael Moore: Sanders Won the Dem Debate
14 October 15
ocumentary filmmaker Michael Moore said late Tuesday that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) won the first Democratic presidential debate.
“Chris Matthews nails it: Sanders won,” he tweeted, echoing the MSNBC anchor’s assessment of the event in Las Vegas.
"Never be4 @ a mainstream debate has a Prez candidate dared 2 question the core system of wealth & power,” Moore said of Sanders’s performance.
“History was made tonite: A conscientious objector running 4 Prez, who believes in democratic socialism, stood & spoke & was wildly applauded,” he added.
Moore praised Sanders’s handling of both fiscal and racial issues.
“Thank you Bernie for just saying it: Black Lives Matter,” he wrote. "And for mentioning Sandra Bland – killed in a cop’s jail in Texas.”
“Quote of the night – Sanders: 'Congress doesn’t regulate Wall Street, Wall Street regulates Congress,” Moore said. "Huge applause.”
Moore also charged that Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton’s is not capable of resisting wealthy special interests.
“Well, any of you with a good sniffer knows what I know from what we all just heard: The banks are going to love President H. Clinton,” he said.
“Clinton said she told the banks to ‘cut it out’ – yeah, that worked,” Moore then quipped.
Moore additionally charged that the GOP presidential field lacks the substance of their Democratic counterparts.
“Get ready for something we’re not used to in a 2016 presidential debate: Decency. Smart people. Facts. Tons of facts,” he wrote of the Democratic contest.
“Parental warning to Republicans watching this debate: These people believe in evolution, science and a woman’s right to her own body,” Moore tweeted.
“These are candidates who know the USA is nearly 75 percent women, people of color or young adults,” the “Fahrenheit 9/11” director added of the Democratic contenders. "They know that’s the only way to win.”
Clinton and Sanders met former Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) and former Govs. Martin O’Malley (D-Md.) and Lincoln Chafee (D-R.I.) during Tuesday night’s event. The next Democratic National Committee debate is scheduled for Nov. 14 in Des Moines, Iowa.
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yes the system works - like in Finland - free education, healthcare - quality and affordable.
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Finland offers its residents universal health care. Health promotion, including prevention of diseases has been the main focus of Finnish health care policies for decades. This has resulted in the eradication of certain communicable diseases and improvement in the health of population.
The quality of service in Finnish health care is considered to be good; according to a survey published by the European Commission in 2000, Finland has the highest number of people satisfied with their hospital care system in the EU: 88% of Finnish respondents were satisfied compared with the EU average of 41.3%.[1]"
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On a personal note - I stopped first at the local Dem. headquarters, as I'd been invited to do, and found only a small handful of people present to watch the debate. I then very quickly left for the Bernie Sanders supporters' debate watching gathering, which I'd also been asked to attend, and found approx. 80 folks present.
The claps and shouts for what Bernie had to say was intense, while the grim plus faces, with head shaking 'no's', was what prevailed when Hillary spoke.
Following what I learned in New York, while on the plaintiffs' legal team at the Hedges, et. al. v. Obama, et. al. trial, re. the Clinton Foundation's and Hillary's corruption, I do believe that the 1%ers and their puppet cronies are doing all they can to make certain that Hillary is the Dem. nominee, and Trump or Jeb is the G.O.P. nominee.
The 1%ers must vomit at the thought of Bernie Sanders getting the post-debate overwhelming approval he got online, following the debate, and the vast numbers (1 mil.) of 'small' donations that came to him, from his ever growing numbers of regular supporters (myself included). All the while, as the 'mess' media declared Hillary Clinton to be the 'debate winner'.
We need a genuine progressive who sees that revolution is necessary to return this country to a path of sanity and equality for all. Bernie Sanders is the ONLY genuine article.
Time for Liberals, Dems, and Progressives to unite to get their base to the polls in EVERY election and to begin real face-to-face grass roots organizing.
"… as a result, gave a polished performance as a progressive."
NO! she is not a Progressive! She is a corporatist Dem. A right of center war hawk who has until the recent primary, been AGAINST Progressive issues, like Keystone and the TPP.
That she gave a "polished performance" has no affect on her policies or her beliefs. Her "performance" is for show. like an actress playing a role in a movie.
Read past my first statement (which was criticism) to the heart of my comments. I'm not interested in a smooth performance, I want the genuine article. Hillary only shifted left to compete with Bernie & we need a genuine progressive for sanity and justice. Bernie is the ONLY progressive candidate for President.
Added a few sentences in the original comment to make what I meant, clearer.
Agreed!
A "Polished performance" is just that. Any seasoned Actor can give a "Polished" performance; that's their stock-in-trade and then it's up to their creative abilities that give the performance their own stamp to make it memorable.
Clinton is not about to step on her wealthy donors' tootsies -including Wall Street and the defense (a.k.a. War machine) industry- by telling hard, unpalatable truths and challenging the entrenched status-quo and underlying power structure.
Sanders on the other hand, makes it his outspoken business to do just that.
Clinton is completely shielded from populist issues just by virtue of her long term embedment in the Beltway culture. Sanders goes right out into the crowds and meets them -far from the "pressing the flesh; kissing babies" condescending attitude of those who are show-people and little else.
I've never seen such forthrightness in ANY candidate in my long association with and residence in the US of Armaments.
Yes, it was a good performance--sh e convinced me that she's got the answers down that poll best and work with the audience she's trying to reach.
But BERNIE convinced me, yet, again, that he speaks from the heart and his compass is set for True North. I trust Bernie. He's the real deal. I don't trust Clinton's "right" answers, however good they sounded, one whit.
Eh????
You means to round up Bernie Sanders??!!
FYI: The public donated another $1.3 million to Bernie's campaign after the debate.
Also, see: Bernie Won All the Focus Groups & Online Polls - So Why Is the Media Saying Hillary Won the Debate?
http://www.alternet.org/print/media/bernie-won-all-focus-groups-online-polls-so-why-media-saying-hillary-won-debate
This is the message Hillary just doesn't get.
Hilary's points were all about incrementalism. We only need to "tweek" the system. Sorry, Hilary. We need to do more than fix the system on the marginal. As Sen. Warren keeps saying, the system is rigged against the common people!
Examples to look at: Why is it taking so long for Mary Jo White to go after the crooks on Wall Street? (Check her husband's connections.) Why was Arne Duncan a stooge for the corporatists who want to take over public education? What is Loretta Lynch doing about the voter ID fraud being perpetrated by the Rethugnicans in Alabama? And on it goes - the need for systemic change in EVERY Federal department.
Not a revolution so much as this: Yer not liberal enough if you don't think a sea change is due for this country. Perhaps, I'm idealistic, maybe too idealistic, but The US needs to go in a very different direction, and very soon. Our pal, the State Senator from here, mentioned a while ago that we have seen twenty years of Dem and twenty years of Repub, but haven't seen any deviation from what seems a ruinous course of corporatism in all that time. One party has been predatory and the other party has been cowardly (you can guess who's who), so I figure a new paradigm is called for and Bernie shows me it might be possible. I was impressed, also, that all involved did not turn the evening into a teenage food fight, as did our far right wing brothers last week.
Period.
End of argument.
My Daddy had just died? Really? Well, my Dad died as well and I still knew that Glass Stegall was a major help to regulate big banks.
Every GOP armaments industry - shill has a profit$ motive for supporting right wing wackos like Netanyahu, and the creepy "Christian" evangelists only have programmed end-of-days rationales for helping the otherwise hated and despised by them Jews (in Israel and here both.)
I think it's the states duty to see that all children get Public Education of the highest quality, equally. These are our future leaders. We need them to be the top to compete in a global economy
- bernie drives the dem debate progressive, as he drives hill progressive, as he drives the dem party progressive, as he drives the country progressive, as he drives the earth progressive
where else but here, is hill shifting progressive a bad thing? get over it, soreheads!
says - # GreenBee 2015-10-14 13:49 "We need genuine progressives in the State legislatures and Congress or Bernie, if elected, will be obstructed by the same forces that obstructed Obama and everyone who is progressive.
"Time for Liberals, Dems, and Progressives to unite to get their base to the polls in EVERY election and to begin real face-to-face grass roots organizing."
That said, remember that people have 'blindly' voted for men for centuries "just because they were men". In fact, if you weren't male, you had zero chance.
Many women ARE likely to vote for a woman who supports REAL change for women's lives today.
Almost 100 years after getting the vote, women are STILL treated as second class, no full equality or equal pay, no parity in corporate leadership, no family values corporate policies. Women were shut out from running for President for centuries, until 2008. The only woman with the cajones to take the risk--Hillary-- was mocked and ridiculed and treated with unparalleled disdain. Yes, her positions on most issues are too conservative, but that's not why she was treated with such disrespect.
Democrats have had 40 years since the birth of feminism to change the realities for women and work on all the other critical issues. They did almost nothing.
Clearly an important reason for Democrats to finally get ahead of the curve and take MUCH stronger stands for women and on all the other issues that need addressing.
Bernie has supported REAL CHANGE on all the issues for DECADES. We just have to help women see that Bernie has been with us all the way for 34 years AND he's a progressive on all the other issues, as well, unlike Clinton.
Too bad, though I prefer Bernie, Hillary is clearly head and shoulders above the other candidates --- those GOP clown car males and the granite blocks or standard issue DNC males like Chaffee, Biden et sl.
Well she was the ONLY one who actively addressed the GOP 'War On Women' issues that, aside from a bit by Bernie, the males in the debate carefully avoided addressing.
To me, it appeared that Hillary Clinton was made aware of all of the questions that were going to be asked prior to the debate, whereas Bernie Sanders as well as the other Democratic candidates were not. I believe that is why Bernie was somewhat clumsy at responding to questions such as why he voted against the Brady Bill. Hillary's responses were too quick and too clean. I believe she knew that the subject of gun control was on the agenda. And when Bernie was asked about Democratic Socialism, a question that should not have been part of the debate as far as I am concerned, he appeared totally unprepared, but Hillary’s response to who she was seemed too well prepared.
I also believe that like the first Republican debate where the Republican Party attempted to destroy Donald Trump right at the start, Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the powers that be in the Democratic Party attempted to do the same against Bernie Sanders. Bernie was walking through a mine field.
Yes. But only if those who are for him are REALLY for him and become part of a tidal wave of grass roots support, and conscientiously work to promote his progressive agendas. And of course, voting the near treasonous tea party trogs out of office, as well.
Horse shit. Stop falling for the establishment propaganda and start working to put Bernie Sanders in the White House.
Were are you ?
Bernie Sanders and the American people need you to support Bernie.
http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/78-78/32928-the-democratic-debate-wasnt
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