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Greenwald writes: "Early this morning, in the Afghan city of Kunduz, the U.S. dropped bombs on a hospital run by Doctors Without Borders (Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF)). The airstrike killed at least 9 of the hospital's medical staff, and seriously injured dozens of patients. 'Among the dead was the Afghan head of the hospital, Abdul Sattar,' reported The New York Times."

Glenn Greenwald. (photo:
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One Day After Warning Russia of Civilian Casualties, the US Bombs a Hospital in Afghanistan

By Glenn Greenwald, The Intercept

03 October 15


esterday afternoon, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power marched to Twitter to proclaim: “we call on Russia to immediately cease attacks on Syrian oppo[sition and] civilians.” Along with that decree, she posted a statement from the U.S. and several of its closest authoritarian allies – including Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UK – warning Russia that civilian casualties “will only fuel more extremism and radicalization.”

Early this morning, in the Afghan city of Kunduz, the U.S. dropped bombs on a hospital run by Doctors Without Borders (Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF)). The airstrike killed at least 9 of the hospital’s medical staff, and seriously injured dozens of patients. “Among the dead was the Afghan head of the hospital, Abdul Sattar,” reported The New York Times. 

Jason Cone, MSF’s Executive Director, said the medical charity “condemns in the strongest possible terms the horrific bombing of its hospital in Kunduz full of staff and patients.” He added that “all parties [to the] conflict, including in Kabul & Washington, were clearly informed of precise GPS Coordinates of MSF facilities in Kunduz,” and that the “precise location of MSF Kunduz hospital [was] communicated to all parties on multiple occasions over past months, including on 9/29.” Worst of all, from MSF itself:

For its part, the U.S. military in Afghanistan issued a statement acknowledging that it carried out airstrikes, claimed they were conducted “against individuals threatening the force,” and conceded that “the strike may have resulted in collateral damage to a nearby medical facility.” But the NYT reported: “From early on, the Taliban had respected the hospital’s request not to bring weapons inside, according to staff members, and the hospital had been a refuge in the shattered city of Kunduz. It was a place where the wounded from all sides were treated.”

The medical organization noted that “our hospital in Kunduz was the only one of its kind in NorthEastern Afghanistan.” It referenced a now-poignant tweet it posted earlier in the week:

Now, however, the Twitter accounts of various MSF branches are filled with horrific photographs of their staff traumatized and their hospital burning as a result of U.S. bombs:

MSF’s full, frequently updated, hard-to-read account of all of this is here.

This strike on a hospital in Afghanistan comes days after the Saudi-led coalition bombed a wedding in Yemen that killed more than 130 people. After days of silence from the U.S. Government – which has actively participated from the start in the heinous bombing of Yemen – Ambassador Power finally acknowledged the wedding massacre, but treated it like some natural disaster that has nothing to do with the U.S.: “Terrible news from Yemen of killing of innocent civilians & aid workers. Urgently need pol solution to crisis,” she tweeted.

Her accompanying statement claimed that “the United States has no role in the targeting decisions made by the Coalition in Yemen,” but yesterday, the Saudi Foreign Minister told CBS News that “We work with our allies including the United States on these targets.” There’s no dispute that the U.S. has lavished the Saudis with all sorts of weapons and intelligence as it carries out its civilian-massacring attacks on Yemen.

This last week has been a particularly gruesome illustration of continuous U.S. conduct under the War on Terror banner, including under the Nobel Peace Prize-winning president who celebrates himself for “ending two wars” (in the same two countries where the U.S. continues to drop bombs). The formula by now is clear: bombing whatever countries it wants, justifying it all by reflexively labeling their targets as “terrorists,” and then dishonestly denying or casually dismissing the civilians they slaughter as “collateral damage.” If one were to construct a list of all the countries in the world based on their credibility to condemn Russia for using this exact rhetorical template in Syria, the U.S. would literally be last on that list.

UPDATE: U.S. officials went to TIME Magazine yesterday to announce that Russia will be creating more terrorists than they kill as a result of misguided airstrikes in Syria. “We believe if you inadvertently kill innocent men, women and children, then there’s a backlash from that,” Lieut. General Bob Otto, the Air Force’s deputy chief of staff for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance said. “We might kill three and create 10 terrorists. It really goes back to the question of are we killing more than were making?”

It’s impossible to fathom what the U.S. media would be saying and doing if Russia did something like this in Syria. By contrast, the reaction to this airstrike by their own government will be muted and filled with apologia, ironically quite similar to the widely vilified caricature of Jeb Bush’s comments about the Oregon shooting spree: “stuff happens.”

UPDATE II: Al Jazeera reports that the hospital bombed by the U.S. “is the only medical facility in the region that can deal with major injuries.” Nonetheless, “officials of MSF … told Reuters that they ‘frantically phoned’ NATO and Washington DC, as bombs rained on the hospital for ‘nearly an hour.'”

UPDATE III: The latest casualty figures from MSF:

Speaking to the nation just three days ago about the Oregon shooting spree, Barack Obama said: “This is a political choice that we make, to allow this to happen every few months…” That applies to a lot more than that incident.

UPDATE IV: Several reports suggest that this hospital has been viewed with hostility because it treats all injured human beings, regardless of which side they’re on. “The hospital treated the wounded from all sides of the conflict, a policy that has long irked the Afghan security forces,” reports the NYT. Al Jazeera notes that “a caretaker at the hospital, who was severely injured in the air strike, told Al Jazeera that clinic’s medical staff did not favour any side the conflict. ‘We are here to help and treat civilians,’ Abdul Manar said.” That same caretaker added: “Several women and children are also killed in the strike. I could hear them screaming for help inside the hospital while it was set ablaze by the bombing. We are terrified and speechless.”

UPDATE V: The U.N. human rights chief has denounced the U.S. airstrike as “tragic, inexcusable, and possibly even criminal.”

This is not the first time this has happened. In 2004, U.S. airstrikes in Falluja, Iraq hit a hospital and “razed it to the ground.” your social media marketing partner


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+136 # Capn Canard 2015-10-03 13:55
WTF... How gawdamned incompetent or just straight up evil is the USA? Just when you think it can't get any worse... At this point, I am ashamed to say I am American.
+99 # jimmyjames 2015-10-03 18:12
Quoting Capn Canard:
WTF... How gawdamned incompetent or just straight up evil is the USA? Just when you think it can't get any worse... At this point, I am ashamed to say I am American.
I am so in your camp. I've been ashamed to be an American since Bush W took office and started two wars against Innocent peoples in our name. Our nation has a terrible legacy and Karma will someday repay us for our evil ways....
+52 # lorenbliss 2015-10-03 21:48
The USian Empire has always despised Doctors without Borders. Not only does DWB epitomize health care as a human right (which is totally contrary to capitalism and its policy of health care as a prerogative of wealth); DWB also dares to provide care to peoples the empire has marked for extermination.

Hence any notion this was an "accident" (and not a deliberate, Nazi-style atrocity), is utter nonsense.

Nevertheless this atrocity does represents a significant turning point in imperial policy, from concealment of atrocities to blatantly public commission of horrors specifically intended to terrorize any and all opposition.

As I have said so many times since the USian Republic was overthrown on 22 November 1963, welcome to the Fourth Reich. In other words, as in Ferguson and Baltimore, so in Kundoz.

And it will get much, much, much, much, much worse -- indeed infinitely worse -- before Mother Nature finally ends the seemingly eternal reign of this sadistic bully whose implicit threat of thermonuclear extinction has removed all limits from the magnitude of its serial-killer tyrannies.
+9 # A_Har 2015-10-04 18:24
"...and possibly even criminal.”

Not just "possibly"--*IT IS.*

I was ashamed to be a USian during the Vietnam War, and the feeling has been there for a long long time.
0 # oakes721 2015-10-08 13:46
Such atrocities are aimed to destroy all hope, all morale and all civilization ~ leaving only the insane hatred generated by the warlord profiteers and weapons makers.
+116 # Radscal 2015-10-03 14:14
This hospital was reportedly hit by wave after wave of aerial bombing sorties, each striking the same building in the compound. This despite MSF having repeatedly given the "coalition" the GPS coordinates both prior to, and during the nearly hour-long assault from approximately 2:00 am to 3:00 am local time.

This was clearly deliberate targeting, and not "collateral damage."

I suspect that "intelligence" reported a "high value target" was being treated in that hospital.

Just like Israel's deliberately targeting of 8 hospitals and at least 14 other medical facilities in last Summer's genocidal butchery in Gaza, the US will hear some criticism, the Human Rights Watch will denounce "possible war crimes" committed by both sides and it will be disappeared in the corporate media by Monday morning.
+3 # Capn Canard 2015-10-05 08:57
I was thinking as much. The USA has been focused on causing as much fear as possible. Our leaders are not any different than a one-trick pony. And down the memory hole it will all get flushed...
+73 # tedrey 2015-10-03 17:48
The American Air Force has become fully worthy of the Nazi Luftwaffe from which it inherited so much.
+95 # Wally Jasper 2015-10-03 17:59
Thanks to Glenn for again and again pointing out the blatant self-righteous hypocrisy of the US government. And we wonder why gun violence is off the charts here at home!?!
+74 # Blackjack 2015-10-03 18:09
We are the swaggering, bad ass country, composed of too many swaggering, bad ass people who love all kinds of weaponry. No wonder the world is beginning to turn on us. We were once viewed as the country that helped to rescue a world from tyranny. Now we are becoming tyrannical. Good people cringe in shame, but we keep putting into office those who either agree with the current foreign policy or are too timid to renounce it.
+58 # Helen Marshall 2015-10-03 18:13
Everyone who can possibly do so, please donate to this amazing group.
+31 # Wally Jasper 2015-10-03 19:38
Thanks, Helen. I just donated to MSF, though it didn't take away the hollow heaviness in my gut. I just weep at our heartless insanity.
+58 # progressiveguy 2015-10-03 18:39
When 10 people are bombed and killed then there are 30 more people that take their place hating America. This achieves the neo-con goal of keeping the violence going. Then we need more guns and aircraft and bombs etc. Big money is made selling these supplies to the military. Profits rule, human life means little to neo-cons. Never ending wars are their goal. God Bless America? Yeah right.
+1 # indian weaver 2015-10-04 15:05
That applies to We The People right here, domestically. When we see the fascist terrorist regime in Washington, DC commit Crimes Against Humanity such as this one by Obama, We The People gain another 100 ready to defend ourselves and nation against tyranny of Obama, going back a long way, but coming to a peak, seems to me. How many millions of We The People now hate Washington, DC? How many of We The People are now patriotic enough to confront the regime? How many massacres will Obama wage locally to put us down? What this regime is doing is beyond even imagination for most humans. I wouldn't have thought they'd do this. It means the Obama / dubya fascist terrorist regime won't hesitate to take out We The People the same way. I have no doubts about that now.
+13 # Barrystanley 2015-10-03 19:04
To understand the "logic" of the U.S. and Saudi bombings read "The Wikileaks Files".
Barry Stanley
+54 # guomashi 2015-10-03 19:11
What is most troubling is the absolute lack of irony in political speech from everyone in DC up to and including the president.

American policy allows 30 civilians dead as a matter of unremarkable collateral casualties.

And our leaders have the nerve to complain about the Russians?

How stupid are Americans that these leaders aren't shamed out of the country?
+4 # indian weaver 2015-10-04 15:07
We cannot shame those who are both sociopaths and psychopaths. No defense will work except extreme violence to get rid of them. And We The People by the millions too, I'm sure. "No Exit", by Camus.
+39 # Archie1954 2015-10-03 19:22
Samantha Power is a despicable, evil miscreant and the perfect spokesperson for an evil nation of imbeciles and fools. A pox on you America, you are a disgusting hypocrite of the first order! Get the hell out of the Middle East and Ukraine. Everywhere you go, death and destruction follow!
+28 # Brian Flaherty 2015-10-03 19:23
Apparently, the US military is relying on the same guys who supplied Mad King George (Bush) with the intel he relied on when he originally invaded Iraq and Afghanistan in the early years of the war(s)!

Probably renewed their contract with a bonus for "extra ordinary" service!

Sure is nice to know that you're working with somebody with a proven "track record of dependability!"
+29 # Blackjack 2015-10-03 19:32
Samantha Powers. Seems I've heard her name before. Could it be that she's one of HRC's policy advisors? Think HRC will follow in the same footsteps as GWB and O? I do.
+1 # harleysch 2015-10-05 15:26
Samantha Power is a war criminal. She and Susan Rice are co-conspirators with neo-con Nuland in genocidal regime change operations.

Oh, and by the way, her husband, Cass Sunstein, is one of Obama's mentors!
+49 # futhark 2015-10-03 19:32
Another bomb dropped means another bomb has to be purchased to maintain inventory in the warehouse. Got to keep up the supply of munitions to stop terrorists!

The weapons manufacturers that have a lot of political pull see to it that the bombs get dropped and it doesn't really matter much who they hit. Check out the Wikipedia article on The Carlyle Group and look at the list of affiliated politicians.

These attacks and wars continue for just one reason: PROFIT!
+29 # Stilldreamin1 2015-10-03 20:12
This is the evil of the evil empire
+35 # futhark 2015-10-03 20:22
“We believe if you inadvertently kill innocent men, women and children, then there’s a backlash from that,” Lieut. General Bob Otto, the Air Force’s deputy chief of staff for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance said. “We might kill three and create 10 terrorists. It really goes back to the question of are we killing more than were making?”

General Bob Otto...Ethical Genius Of The Year.

General, any 3rd grader that's ever been bullied on the playground know that! Is there any way you can pass your insight UP the chain of command?
+26 # beeyl 2015-10-03 20:55
I really don't think anyone in the chain of command gives a damn. They like war. They like killing. If collateral damage creates 10 new terrorists, well that just gives them more targets to shoot at. And really, as long as the birth rate in these countries exceeds our rate of murdering them, then the game can go on for a very long time.
+24 # cordleycoit 2015-10-03 20:36
Murder,slaughte r,extermination are all synonyms for the murderous American generals and their politician bosses who issue the orders to butcher the innocent. End the war now.
+9 # Shades of gray matter 2015-10-03 21:28
Former foremost critic of genocide, S.Powers should be deeply ashamed. I think U.S. and Russia have under the table agreement on bombing the shit out of certain parties. Layers and layers of absurd propaganda and lies upon lies. Send $$ to MSF (DWB) and RSN.
+3 # indian weaver 2015-10-04 15:11
Russia cannot be compared to Amerika. Nothing can compare to such violent extremism. Were Russia to have committed such a Crime Against Humanity, it'd be all over the MSM. As it is .... silence is deafening here.
+11 # geraldom 2015-10-03 21:58
The answer is very simple. HYPOCRISY AND DOUBLE-STANDARD S. As an exceptional country with exceptional rights, the U.S. has declared itself God on earth. The U.S. controls the United Nations with Ban Ki-Moon as its personal puppet leader.

Nothing that the U.S. does can be wrong or illegal or immoral, but no one better copycat us unless the U.S. approves it which means that Saudi Arabia can murder all the people it wants in Yemen using American planes with American weapons.

Just once, I wish Putin would tell the U.S. where to go in no uncertain terms, you know, like "Please Go F**k yourself." I must apologize about my bad French here.
+25 # turtleislander 2015-10-03 22:21
Sick to my stomach. Sick. America you are lost. This appalling crime is simply beyond any kind of excuse.
+14 # bardphile 2015-10-03 23:59
This was clearly deliberate targeting, and not "collateral damage."

If this was the case, maybe it will become the MyLai of Afghanistan, the atrocity that tips public opinion against the administration' s war policies. President Obama must order a quick, thorough, and honest investigation of the circumstances that caused it and fire those responsible, up to and including the Sec. of Defense if culpability goes that far up the chain. And then perhaps resign the presidency.
+26 # Radscal 2015-10-04 01:28
The current Secretary of "Defense," Ashton Carter was a founding member of the NeoCon Project for a New American Century, and co-signer of their infamous white paper "Rebuilding America's Defenses." That's the 1998 paper that infamously suggested it would take a ”catastrophic and catalyzing event— like a new Pearl Harbor” to convince the public to go along with their plans.

The co-author of that paper was Donald Kagan, whose son, Robert (who also co-signed that paper) is the husband of Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs, Victoria Nuland, who was recorded planning the putsch regime they were about to install in Ukraine.

Since previous Sec. of Defense Robert Gates, Ashton Carter and Victoria Nuland were all appointed by President Obama, I wouldn't expect him to take action on this war crime.
+6 # Vermont Grandma 2015-10-04 20:32
[quote name="Radscal"] The current Secretary of "Defense," Ashton Carter was a founding member of the NeoCon Project for a New American Century, and co-signer of their infamous white paper "Rebuilding America's Defenses."

It is very telling and horrifying that "Democratic" president Barack Obama appointed a person associated with the war-mongering Project for a New American Century, much less a co-founder. Any illusions anyone has had that Obama (for whom I campaigned and voted twice) represents any kind of change goes out the window with the appointment of such an individual, Ashton Carter, as Secretary of "Defense" and with his pusilanimous call for an "investigation" rather than immediately assuring that heads roll and those responsible be immediately arrested and put in military jails while awaiting court martial.

This conduct is horrific and inexcusable. It should be clear to any kindergartener that someone in the US government with the power to order did so on the theory that anyone who is a "high-value target" in the US' endless war on terror merits being bombed even if they are believed to be in an international hospital. For shame.
+2 # indian weaver 2015-10-04 15:13
Obama has never shown any honesty or courage. He's not about to start now. He knows if he "steps outta line, the man takes him away" (i.e., like MLK, JFK. RFK, etc. the CIA has Obama in their crosshairs - one false move and bang you're dead - simple as that really).
+17 # James Marcus 2015-10-04 00:21
From Obama, through the "Chain of Command', right to the bombardier: guilty, of Crimes Against Humanity
+25 # Annette Saint John Lawrence 2015-10-04 01:22
American has become the scourge of the earth.When will the complacent citizenry stand up in mass. This nation is a scourge on earth. This bombing literally made me sick to my stomach.
-17 # SalzburgStan 2015-10-04 04:00
"... a policy that has long irked the Afghan security forces,” So the Afghan security forces called in the airstrike claiming that they were under fire from the hospital and the US takes the blame.
+9 # Dongi 2015-10-04 12:48
That the Afghan security forces called in the airstrike is an assumption. Where is your evidence? I don't think the US answers to them. It is responsible for this atrocity and no one else.
+10 # Anonymot 2015-10-04 14:48
It makes no difference who "called it in". In civilized warfare one does not bomb hospitals and this air coordinate had been officially and repeatedly declared to be a Médicins Sans Frontiers hospital.

Those who lead us have been rapidly losing the "civilized" qualities of America and it's not finished yet.
+6 # Vermont Grandma 2015-10-04 20:36
The United States IS to blame when it bombs a known international hospital whether or not the Afghan security forces called in an air strike. It is a disheartening lack of command control for anyone in the US military to carry out air strikes on such a facility which has been disclosed to US military for months prior to the air strikes AND for bombing to continue after Doctors Without Borders advised that the hospital was under attack. The attacks continued for at least an additional half hour.

Both the initial bombing and the continued bombing are entirely the US responsibility. US planes, US airmen, US violation of international law, US war crimes. Not the first time either since 2001.
+10 # Sweet Pea 2015-10-04 06:35
These wars are fought for the financial benefit of the wealthy. What is also disgusting is the fact that President Obama campaigned for his second term on his statement that he kept us out of war. Now that he "has" his second term he jumps right into war!
+8 # jandreas 2015-10-04 08:33
A story on NPR reported that the US not only provides the hardware (aircraft and missiles) and intelligence to support the Saudi aerial bombing, but also logistical support, including mid-air refueling of Saudi aircraft on their way to bombing missions.
+6 # indian weaver 2015-10-04 15:15
Amerika / Obama is 100% complicit with Saudi Arabia in the Yemen genocide. Just another day at the office for Obama, the drone master assassin.
+2 # Shades of gray matter 2015-10-04 09:40
Radscal, I do not see Carter's name on PNAC list of signees. Could you please document your placement of him there. I would really like to know. Thank you.
He certainly talks like a signee, but he seems 100 IQ points above all the others, combined.
+6 # Radscal 2015-10-04 13:42
I don't find Carter listed anymore either. Scrubbed?

But, he still shows up on PNAC documents and events.

He co-wrote PNAC's open letter calling for invasion of Iraq in 1998. Here's that piece of war propaganda:

He joined and was active in the "Center for a New American Security" which is the spin-offf of PNAC created after the "bad" (read accurate) news about PNAC came out after Iraq War II.

I recommend you not assume people with whom you disagree are stupid. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Forbes, the Kagans, Podohertz, etc. are genuinely evil creatures, but they are not stupid.
+6 # 179bennettave 2015-10-04 10:27
Glenn is right to point out the irony of the US condemning Russia for killing civilians in Syria. Obama and his military advisors hope to deflect attention from their personal responsibility for the bombing of a Doctors Without Borders Hospital( as well the murder of hundred of innocent people over the past six years) by calling it " collateral damage ". They all should be indicted for war crimes " Stuff " does not just happen. Dictatorial leaders DECIDE to commit crimes to advance their policies.
+3 # Earl666 2015-10-04 10:48
The Only Reason The US Government is in The Middle East is to get All The Resources for The Corporations that Really run The Country, That's Why They'll never Invade North Korea because there's nothing there that The Corporations need, One Thing I could never figure out is why do they have to go another Country to Defend Freedom in this one, not that we have many Freedoms Left.
+5 # madresabia 2015-10-04 12:05
So, they hate us because of our freedoms? What twisted mind would believe this? We have become not only the cops of the world, but the absolute rulers, and like absolute rulers we decide who should live and who should die. Like Capn Canard, I too am so ashamed of being American.
+4 # madresabia 2015-10-04 12:07
Quoting Greenwald: “we call on Russia to immediately cease attacks on Syrian oppo[sition and] civilians.” Along with that decree, she posted a statement from the U.S. and several of its closest authoritarian allies – including Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UK – warning Russia that civilian casualties “will only fuel more extremism and radicalization. ” Now is this the pot calling the kettle black?
+4 # Dongi 2015-10-04 13:02
More and more people are waking up to the fact that the US has become an evil empire. The bombing at Kundoz is just the latest brick in a big wall of evidence. Sure, the Air Force knew what it was doing. It was told what it was doing but continued the action. Sure, we have a lot more people who hate us. The Empire doesn't care. Sure, we killed innocent people and hardworking medical staff. The Empire could care less. Maybe, a few more Americans will realize what is happening. Do you think the Empire cares? There is lots of room on discarded military bases to house angry militants. The armed forces have been quietly refurbishing these bases just in case they need them.

Welcome to the Brave New World, folks, where an American Empire reigns supreme.
+1 # Radscal 2015-10-04 13:51
Good point, Dongi. At least since the 1970s, the US has maintained detention centers specifically for dissidents.

The media ridiculed those who believed the disinformation about Jade Helm, but what cannot be denied is that military equipment was shipped around the country under cover of that "drill," and now remains in stockpiles strategically located, ready to quash protest or open revolt.

Many of the successful revolutions around the world occurred when large segments of the military refused to take arms against their fellow citizens. I hope the same would happen here.
+1 # indian weaver 2015-10-04 15:21
Killing your relatives is a deterrent to police actions against the civilians. The terrorists in Washington know this. For that reason, many of the military bases have become self-contained cities. The soldiers / sailors / marines will bring in their extended families when notified the revolution is underway so our military can then take us out with no fear of their families being killed in the civil war to come. That is certainly a major reason to build these bases as if they are cities, populated only with trained killers and their families. Take note. It's a smart plan. This also protects the military against insider attacks by military inside these bases. The soldier who hates his compatriots will think twice before attacking them, knowing his family will then suffer horribly, even if the killer commits suicide. This is a critical element of military planning, routine stuff.
0 # Dongi 2015-10-05 01:58
Down right scary. Does anyone have access to nuclear weapons? There goes the base in a mushroom cloud.
+4 # dkonstruction 2015-10-05 14:27
Where the fuck is the so-called US Peace Movement? Having grown up during the Vietnam era, if this had happened in the late 60s/early 70s there would have been demonstrations if not occupations of college campuses across the country. This is a war crime. Where the fuck are US liberals, progressives, the left, the peace movement? This is almost as much of an outrage as the bombing itself. The lack of organized response to the ongoing war crimes committed by the US government is pathetic.
+2 # Blackjack 2015-10-05 14:37
Maybe some of us who rallied against the war in Vietnam are a little long in the tooth now, but I want to know where are the YOUNG people who should be raising hell? If we still had the draft, I could well imagine how many of them would be out there protesting!
+1 # Dongi 2015-10-05 18:15
And, that is exactly why we no longer have the draft. Keeps the young people off the protest lines. The neocons are smart. Evil yes, but smart.
+4 # harleysch 2015-10-05 22:04
Not to be "conspiracy-min ded" or anything, but does anyone remember that the MSF issued a sharp attack on the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) free trade agreement when it was before the Congress, because the provisions demanded by big Pharma would deny medicine to millions in the poor countries which signed the agreement?

The day before the TPP was adopted, the MSF hospital in Kunduz was bombed. Coincidence????

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