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Pierce writes: "My goodness, the special snowflakes of the elite political media are all a'quiver because Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is running for president of the United States, has decided to talk like somebody who wants to be president of the United State."

Hillary Clinton. (photo: Getty Images)
Hillary Clinton. (photo: Getty Images)


Hillary Clinton Has Run Out of F*cks to Give

By Charles Pierce, Esquire

31 August 15

 

And she's finally speaking like someone who wants to gain some poll numbers.

y goodness, the special snowflakes of the elite political media are all a'quiver because Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is running for president of the United States, has decided to talk like somebody who wants to be president of the United States, which is to say, she's started to talk like someone whose big bag of fcks to give is running very, very low.

"Now, extreme views about women, we expect that from some of the terrorist groups, we expect that from people who don't want to live in the modern world, but it's a little hard to take from Republicans who want to be the president of the United States," Clinton said at a speech in Cleveland. "Yet they espouse out of date, out of touch policies. They are dead wrong for 21st century America. We are going forward, we are not going back."

Time to fire up the old Fiorina 2.0 to perform the only function it serves in national politics, I guess.

"What it tells us is that Hillary Clinton has no qualms about continuing to try and wage this supposed 'war on women' card as she runs for president," Fiorina said. "We ought to expect this."

Well done, Carly. Here's a treat. Marco Rubio, on the other hand, fresh from his triumph at re-enacting Lily Tomlin's old "Edith Ann" skit, was so exercised that he did a little smearing of his own.

"So you're going to see a lot of this in the weeks to come. They're in trouble that's well documented, maybe criminal charges around the corner," Rubio said of the ongoing scandal over the former secretary of state's use of a private email account and server. "She's been exposed as being incompetent, and of course, deceitful, on the handling of emails and so forth."

Of course, there was a general rush to the fainting couches, even on liberal MSNBC, where the ratings-challenged gang on Squint and the Meat Puppet was struck dumb – and I do mean dumb – with horror. (For details, please consult brother Driftglass, who drops the meteor right on their watery heads.) Even the Libidinous Visitor pronounced himself appalled.

"Her last statement on terrorists was a disgusting statement, by the way," Trump told MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

And then his tongue burst into flame…and apologies were, ah, not forthcoming.

She responded by mocking him in her speech on Friday morning to the Democratic National Committee's summer meeting in Minneapolis, which was presided over by the mysteriously still-employed Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the Joe Schultz of national chairpeople.

She criticized Trump, saying that in addition to saying "hateful things" about immigrants, he "also insults and dismisses women. Just yesterday he attacked me once again and said I didn't have a clue about women's health issues. Really? I mean you can't make this stuff up, folks. Trump actually says he would do a much better job for women than I would. Now that's a general election debate that's going to be a lot of fun."

There are a number of people who have studied her career who believe that, as a candidate, HRC only gets focused when she is perceived to be in trouble, and then she becomes a formidable as she is rumored to be. If that's the case, then she seems to be getting there at the moment.


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-2 # Dongi 2015-08-31 08:26
Hillary needs to be focused for she sure is in trouble. The e-mail brouhaha is not going away despite Clinton's attempt to treat it
lightly. Trump is on the scene and he is a tough campaigner. And, then, there is Sanders coming on like gangbusters swiftly closing the gap between him and her. So Hillary work on that focus. You need to be formidable.
 
 
+36 # ronjazz 2015-08-31 09:54
the email thing is already over. she did nothing wrong.
 
 
+84 # Buddha 2015-08-31 10:01
Her not doing anything wrong, or even anything different than the Bush administration did, is immaterial. It isn't like there is any meat in the nothing-burger of "Benghazi" but that hasn't stopped the GOP from continuing "investigation" after investigation. Both "sides" actually love these nonsense scandals, as it keeps the conversation well away from actual policy debate that could threaten the Oligarchy's control.
 
 
+38 # Saberoff 2015-08-31 10:21
Besides, the latest poll out of Iowa shows people do not actually care about the emails. Hill's numbers are plateauing for other reasons.

I think people have always been sick of the media circus around manufactured "issues." It's just now, as the world lists, we see stirrings.
 
 
+30 # ritawalpoleague 2015-08-31 11:30
"We were broke when we left the White House." And then, shortly after Hill the Shill proclaimed this, she put together 'the most expensive wedding ever'.

I truly do look forward to a woman being POTUS, but that woman must have proven herself as being a real McCoy people server, just a Bernie Sanders has proven himself to be, for decades.

Yes, there are such potential women candidates, i.e. Elizabeth Warren. But, Hillary Clinton is most certainly not one of them.

Wake up sisters (and brothers) of any and all colors and pol. persuasions: unlike Hillary Clinton.....

SANDERS PANDERS NOT, TO THE 1%
 
 
+3 # SHK 2015-09-02 00:10
YES!!! You got it sooooo RIGHT!! This is NOT the woman I want as the first woman president. Not by a long shot! I'm with you...This time it's BERNIE ALL THE WAY. It's time. I'd like to see Elizabeth as his running mate. Anyone else? I hate to lose her in the Senate but she'd be the President of same as the veep...what say y'all???
 
 
-28 # nice2bgreat 2015-08-31 10:44
Quoting ronjazz:
the email thing is already over. she did nothing wrong.


The "email thing" is already over because you say it's over?

She did "nothing wrong" because you say she did nothing wrong?
.
 
 
+19 # edensasp 2015-08-31 16:42
Quoting nice2bgreat:
Quoting ronjazz:
the email thing is already over. she did nothing wrong.


The "████████" is already ████████████████ you ████████████████?

She did "████████ ████████" ████████ you say ████████ ████████████████?
.


This information has been deemed classified since its release.
 
 
+8 # Merlin 2015-08-31 18:34
edensasp 2015-08-31 16:42

Hahaha! well done!
 
 
-4 # nice2bgreat 2015-08-31 13:42
.
Is this done and over, too, because you say it is?

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/watch/full-video-clinton-meets-black-lives-matter-509555267594

---

Hillary's handlers interrupting, just before Hillary's response to Mr. Jones' first question, is telling.

Hillary's handlers 2nd interruption was immediately after Ms. Clinton's (stump-ish speech/filibust er /lecture/dismis sive) 1st -- and what was supposed to be only -- response.


Hillary's handler -- 2nd interruption: "Madam Secretary, we really need to go."


Julius Jones, BLM: "The piece that’s most important, and I stand here [humbly] in your space, to say this as respectfully as I can,

If you don’t tell black people what we need to do, then we won’t tell you-all what you need to do…"


HC: "Well I’m not telling you, I’m just telling you to tell me."


JJ, BLM: "What I mean to say is; this is and has always been a white problem of violence, and it’s not, … there’s not much we can do to stop the violence against us."


Hillary Clinton -- “Yeah, well, respectfully, if that is your position, then I will talk only to white people about how we are going to deal with a very real problem.”

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hillary's declaration was not [just nor only] sarcasm, and even if innocuous, the intention was still there, to completely dismiss the BLM, there and then. Done...

Except, ...
.
 
 
+2 # Caliban 2015-09-01 00:46
HRC was being pushed and she pushed back--respectfu lly but effectively. And, to me, at least, her "I will only talk to white people" etc. most definitely was sarcasm.
 
 
+2 # Bruce Gruber 2015-09-01 08:42
Sarcasm based on paternalist superiority ... blaming the victims of/for centuries of dismissive, exploitative compromising and for not 'properly and effectively' articulating and converting white folks to understand their responsibility for instituting EQUALITY (leaving, of course, the ownership of that principle in 'white' hands, where it BELONGS (?!).

She REALLY did it ... told them where "their place" really was - blameworthy, where "others" belong, not something she and "her kind" need to comprehend ... only to acknowledge and leave in the "problem" hopper of limited interest and comprehension.

Also definitely "sarcasm"!
 
 
+1 # nice2bgreat 2015-09-01 13:10
Quoting nice2bgreat:
Hillary's declaration was not sarcasm, and even if innocuous, the intention was still there, to completely dismiss the BLM, there and then. Done...

Quoting Caliban:
HRC was being pushed and she pushed back--respectfully but effectively. And, to me, at least, her "I will only talk to white people" etc. most definitely was sarcasm.

I agree; it was sarcasm: the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

Synonyms for sarcasm: derision, mockery, ridicule, scorn, sneering, scoffing; irony; cynicism.

I should have written, Hillary's declaration was not [just nor only] sarcasm, and even if innocuous, the intention was still there, to completely dismiss the BLM, there and then. Done...

So Caliban, respond to that.

Hillary's declaration was intended to completely dismiss the BLM, there and then. Done...
.
 
 
0 # Caliban 2015-09-03 02:34
Again, HRC was being sarcastic, but, as you note, she was also using irony--"the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning" (Google).

So I would say that HRC was using irony and sarcasm to push back against these particular BLM critics at that particular moment but NOT to "completely dismiss" the BLM group or any other minority partisans. The latter intention would reflect neither Clinton's history of support for minorities nor her keen sense of political protocol.
 
 
-3 # nice2bgreat 2015-09-03 09:07
Quoting Caliban:
Again, HRC was being sarcastic, but, as you note, she was also using irony--"the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning" (Google).

So I would say that HRC was using irony and sarcasm to push back against these particular BLM critics at that particular moment but NOT to "completely dismiss" the BLM group or any other minority partisans. The latter intention would reflect neither Clinton's history of support for minorities nor her keen sense of political protocol.


That is right, Caliban.

Hillary already has her own blacks with whom she garners insights and shares sarcasm; her blacks have been properly domesticated and incorporated.

BLM ain't Hill's blacks; you can tell the way they dress, and Hillary's Blacks don't show any lip -- she consults her own, thank you.

And she, wasn't telling them, right?

She's just telling them to tell her, ... right?

But to what ends, ... ah yes...

No ends.

Yeah, well, if that's how you feel, ... I will talk only with white people... -- meaning, my house-niggers and I will get together,

And I will hear them out...

Just as I have taken 5 uninterupted minutes "listening" to you, ...

Then I, Hillary, will decide the best course.

Buh-bye.
.
 
 
+2 # Charles3000 2015-08-31 16:37
The email brouhaha is the biggest pile of BS ever assembled by the media. As Sectary of State she had the authority to classify or declassify any document in the Department. Only POTUS could overrule her. If she said those documents were unclassified then they were. Period. Documents do not classify themselves. They are classified by people and the management hierarchy prevails and she was at the top in the Department of State. The entire affair is BS based on ignorance of the way classification is done.
 
 
+4 # Merlin 2015-08-31 17:43
Charles3000 2015-08-31 16:37
"The email brouhaha is the biggest pile of BS ever assembled by the media."

Really?! Check out Jonathan Turley's take on this "brouhaha"

http://jonathanturley.org/2015/08/18/the-state-department-flags-more-than-300-clinton-emails-as-possibly-classified/

I believe Turley's understanding holds a lot of validity in as much as he is operating under the same rules as sHillary is.
 
 
+1 # ericlipps 2015-09-01 05:05
Quoting Dongi:
Hillary needs to be focused for she sure is in trouble. The e-mail brouhaha is not going away despite Clinton's attempt to treat it
lightly. Trump is on the scene and he is a tough campaigner. And, then, there is Sanders coming on like gangbusters swiftly closing the gap between him and her. So Hillary work on that focus. You need to be formidable.

You bet it's not going away--not if Republicans can help it. They know an exploitable phony issue when they see one.
 
 
+17 # hoffhort 2015-08-31 09:24
I loved that line about terrorists. Hillary really gets it.
 
 
+41 # Merlin 2015-08-31 09:38
Yes, well, sHillary is still convinced she is the heir apparent as she is choosing to fight the general election already. This is the primary, folks, and it is Bernie she needs to be concerned about, not tRump who will not even be the rethug nominee in any case.

Of course, she can better fight a caricature like tRump, than a real contender like Bernie. tRump is easy! She will have no or very weak answers for Bernie. Her only strengths are the women’s issue and her supposed lock on black voters. (And with people like Cornel West backing Bernie, we will see just how strong her support in the black voters mind she really is. She is not Bill!)

I predict that there will be a repeat of the 2007 campaign with Bernie forging ahead as the campaign heats up. Why? I believe the answer rests in psychology. Bernie speaks directly to the people’s hearts; to their emotions. sHillary does not do that, and worse for her, is incapable of doing that. In my view, that was the real reason Obama won in 2007. He spoke to the people’s emotions, (hope and change) while sHillary spoke to their heads as a policy wonk. People want to “feel” not “think.” They will vote their emotions!
 
 
+32 # Karlus58 2015-08-31 10:29
I agree. All I see is her "bobbleheading" when asked a pertinent question. One can see she isn't truly listening. Her answers sidestep the issues. Meanwhile, Mr. Sanders speaks directly to the question and his understanding is clear.
 
 
+16 # Saberoff 2015-08-31 10:32
I'm beginning to wonder if tRump (nicely put) will not be the nominee. Perhaps the Repub puppet masters are waiting to see what happens with Bernie. tRump vs Bernie: the ultimate capitalism-vers us-democratic-s ocialism-for-Am erika contest.

Now, why am I imagining Rain17 grinning like a raccoon?
 
 
+24 # RLF 2015-08-31 09:53
Clinton will say anything that will get her elected. I've got no use for her.
 
 
+13 # jsluka 2015-08-31 12:50
I will NEVER vote for Hillary, under any circumstances.
 
 
+5 # Cassandra2012 2015-08-31 14:36
Oh, you prefer the narcissistic fascist Trump? or someone else in that Tealiban clown car?
 
 
+21 # ChrisCurrie 2015-08-31 10:01
Hillary's checkered record as Secretary of State and the role she has played in creating and supporting President Obama's dishonestly promoted TPP, TTIP, and TiSA rigged "trade agreements" make her highly unlikely to win a presidential election.
 
 
0 # lfeuille 2015-08-31 18:56
Quoting ChrisCurrie:
Hillary's checkered record as Secretary of State and the role she has played in creating and supporting President Obama's dishonestly promoted TPP, TTIP, and TiSA rigged "trade agreements" make her highly unlikely to win a presidential election.


Unfortunately, that's not true. Most people are not aware of the details of her tenure at State or of the controversy surrounding the trade deals. Hopefully, Bernie can bring the issue to more people.
 
 
+72 # Buddha 2015-08-31 10:03
Meanwhile, as MS-NBC plays Donald Trump speeches in their entirety, keeps talking about these fake scandals, Bernie keeps trying to talk about the real issues and actual policy, gets tens of thousands at his rallies, and every media outlet is pretending he doesn't exist. Therein lies our corrupt Oligarchy, with its control of all mass-media to frame public awareness and perception.
 
 
+19 # Radscal 2015-08-31 12:47
Precisely.

One could almost think HRC, the DNC and their house organ (MS-DNC) would rather see a Republican win than an actual progressive.
 
 
+1 # Bruce Gruber 2015-09-01 09:05
They drink their own kool-aide. Blinded by Clintonesquenes s and cashworthiness of the donor class that provides petite-fours and champagne, the rubber stamp Democratic Party not-quite-so-el ites have been bamboozled into acceptance of coronation as payback for the "Right wing conspiracy" against Bill and Hillary.

Some of the kingmakers are aware that the envisioned 'game' is unraveling. Binden gets the call to keep control of the game, but those damned idealists keep getting involved. Those "in-the-know" don't really yet visualize the "Spring" in the air against ANY establishment.

Getting f***ed by huge, golden$$ Koch's or tRumped by gritty, disrespectful independence isn't getting real consideration yet. It's not that DEMkings "would rather see a Republican win than an actual progressive", it's that THEIR control of the Democratic Party is more important, at the moment, than winning the Presidency which (with apologies for all this snark) 'they consider' to be in the bag.
 
 
+4 # Radscal 2015-09-01 12:01
I just imagine that if I was a part of that "donor class," (say at Goldman-Sachs), I would prefer ANY candidate who is beholden to me than the one calling for GS to be broken up and all of Wall Street to be defanged.
 
 
-32 # moafu@yahoo.com 2015-08-31 10:36
The beauty of all this w/ HRC:
she (and those who knew her and write about her) verifies the CLINTON SLEAZE that
oozes from the halls of every org. and instit. they set up or invade.

TOTAL SLEAZE. btw, NOT ONE Leftist has challenged Cathy O'Brien's free online book, "Trance-Formati on of America". C'mon you old Lefties, where is your explanation and/or defense ?
 
 
+12 # Beenie 2015-08-31 13:22
Troll
 
 
+48 # Dust 2015-08-31 11:06
I'm no big fan of Hillary; my vote is for Sanders all the way.

I am curious, however, how much of the right-wing outrage over the email servers and deleted emails was also in place when the Bush administration deleted 22 million emails from THEIR private servers (operated by the RNC)... nowhere? Oh, okay. Just checking.
 
 
+9 # Cassandra2012 2015-08-31 14:38
Either one of them is far better than the slime oozing from the misogynist, neo-fascist Tealiban clown car.
 
 
+63 # Old Uncle Dave 2015-08-31 11:10
The author refers to "liberal MSNBC."

Remember the good old days when liberal meant left of center and not left of Fox News?
 
 
+2 # nice2bgreat 2015-09-02 02:53
Quoting Old Uncle Dave:
Remember the good old days when liberal meant left of center and not left of Fox News?


And even that ... left of center is an insult.

There's an unwillingness, while acceptable to reep the benefits of liberalism, to hold "leftist" views as mainstream.

This festering right-wing mainstreamism is farcical, yet woven into the foundation of illusive fact, are many systems and functions of every-day life.

The real coup for neo-cons, structurally, was the Telecommunicati ons Act of 1996, which allows the vertical integration of media -- Essentially, one company owning (what used to be) all three media entities[LocalT elevision Station, Local Newspaper, and Local Radio] within a local area.

By this logic, control of media -- while, when centralized, is efficient -- local media control should be king.

...
Cornel West says interesting things in an interview by Chris Hedges on therealnewsnetwork.com

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=14450

West spoke early in the interview about how individual motivations from one generation to the next, changed from community-minde d to upwardly mobile; and focused, not on consumerism, so much as from individual perspectives within communities, then expanded out in time.
.
 
 
+25 # DPM 2015-08-31 12:06
I think she's "feeling the Bern"! Good! I hope he is her downfall.
 
 
+9 # Beenie 2015-08-31 13:21
Bernie is at least pushing her to the left, where she needs to be.
 
 
+27 # jimallyn 2015-08-31 13:39
Quoting Beenie:
Bernie is at least pushing her to the left, where she needs to be.

Hillary Clinton can't be pushed to the left. She's a Republican, plain and simple; always has been, always will be. Sure, she can be made to spout populist rhetoric, but she doesn't mean a word of it. She just says whatever she thinks will get her elected. I am not falling for it, and you shouldn't either.
 
 
+13 # Radscal 2015-08-31 17:27
As a teen, HRC was a "Goldwater Girl," but her whole adult life, she's been a "Goldman-Sachs Girl."
 
 
+13 # Merlin 2015-08-31 17:30
Beenie 2015-08-31 13:21

"Bernie is at least pushing her to the left"

This is pure MSM hype. This thought, by the MSM, is an attempt to marginalize Bernie as "not a real or valid candidate."

As jimallyn notes above, sHillary will never change from the corporatist shill she has always been, right from the 60s when she was a Goldwater girl. Her actions her whole political life are right there to see, just as Bernie's are.

Short story. Bernie is real, and sHillary is as phony as a three dollar "Bill" when she masquerades as a Democrat.
 
 
+9 # lfeuille 2015-08-31 18:58
Quoting Beenie:
Bernie is at least pushing her to the left, where she needs to be.


Doesn't matter. If she gets elected she won't stay there.
 
 
+20 # Beenie 2015-08-31 13:12
How about reminding the GOPers that Karl Rove destroyed 22 MILLION emails sent among Con0di, Donald, Dick, W and the rest of those criminals, as they tried to get their stories straight on why we had to invade Iraq. Or that Jebbie had a private email server, as did Rick Perry and a whole bunch of other stupid white men? Why aren't the freepers questioning THEM???? Hypocrites, liars and thieves.
 
 
-2 # Hugh Manitarian 2015-08-31 13:16
Charles Pierce is an out and out shill for Billary, a morally bankrupt, sold out, blood thirsty, war-mongering, neocon, liar and hypocrite.

Reader Supported News must stop printing shameless propaganda by Pierce and others - which is so transparent that the BS detectors are ringing off their hooks - and instead provide a real alternative to the corporate mainstream media by printing articles about truly Progressive developments instead.

How many more destructive she-monsters will it take before Billary supporters wake up to the fact that her type is just as bad as the male psychopaths-soc iopaths she mixes with and emulates - Indira Ghandi, Margaret Thatcher, Condoleeza Rice, Angela Merkel, Samantha Powers, Susan Rice, Carly Fiorina - to name only a few?
 
 
-6 # Caliban 2015-08-31 14:40
I'm afraid it is the ludicrously named "Hugh Manitarian" who is the "morally bankrupt, sold out, blood thirsty, war-mongering, neocon, liar and hypocrite" on this page, not HC.
 
 
+5 # Hugh Manitarian 2015-08-31 15:20
Caliban's response lacks any valid basis, whereas Billary's credentials are literally available in volumes for anyone with two neurons to rub together and a desire to understand.

Democratic Party trolls - of which there are many more among these commenters - wouldn't recognize a humanitarian six inches in front of their faces. The concept is alien to them. All they are open to is "My party (or my paymaster), right or wrong".
 
 
+6 # Merlin 2015-08-31 17:11
Hugh Manitarian 2015-08-31 15:20
"Democratic Party trolls - of which there are many more among these commenters."

I don't see that. There are a few, and they are prolific, but I am guessing 75% of the commenters here are for Bernie. Many, and I am one, will not vote for sHillary should she become the nominee. Why vote for a corporatist, war mongering neocon, like sHillary?

She may, in fact, be the oligarch's real choice over all other candidates. As a supposed Dem, like obummer, she will be able to push the corporatist agenda without raising The People's ire as a rethug would. Look at the TPP or its predecessors, NAFTA and CAFTA, that she supported back in the early '90s.
 
 
+3 # Radscal 2015-08-31 17:29
I agree, but I do think I've seen an upsurge in the number of Democratic partisans in the past year.

Maybe they're all sock puppets, but as you note, they've become prolific. It has really changed the tenor of RSN comments sections.
 
 
-2 # Caliban 2015-09-03 13:29
Hugh Manitarian--

I was wrong to try to make fun of your name. That was lazy and foolish of me. "Hugh Manitarian" is actually a pretty good handle with which to articulate a positive and pro-people political philosophy.

My actual issue was--and remains--your easy and thoughtless (as it seems to me) dismissal of HRC as a viable and positive candidate for President. I have no issue with anybody who prefers Sanders. I like him also.

But I do feel that demeaning Clinton to promote Sanders just gives the GOP a boost it doesn't deserve should Sanders not win the Democratic nomination. And I would make a parallel argument to anyone who demeaned Sanders (or O'Malley) to promote HRC.
 
 
+3 # Merlin 2015-08-31 17:22
Caliban 2015-08-31 14:40
"I'm afraid it is the ludicrously named "Hugh Manitarian" who is the "morally bankrupt, sold out, blood thirsty, war-mongering, neocon, liar and hypocrite" on this page, not HC."

Hahahaha! Great stuff Caliban. Now what you have to do is work that line into a stand up comedy routine. Keep up the good work!

Now that Dennis, Brux, stannadel (of course those guys were Hasbara trolls which lends itself to different humor,) and wadoo are no longer commenting, its great to have you here. You and the fire line pest make a great team! We can use your humor to lighten up the dullness that policy discussions devolve into.

toodle oo
 
 
+2 # Radscal 2015-08-31 17:33
I love how your replies bounce between cheery, satirical ridicule and razor-edged rapier.

Few have your eclecticism.
 
 
0 # Merlin 2015-09-02 18:46
Radscal 2015-08-31 17:33

Thanks Radscal! Praise from Caesar is praise indeed!
 
 
-2 # lfeuille 2015-08-31 19:01
RSN has a right to print anything they deem appropriate to their mission. You do not get to censor their editorial choices.
 
 
-1 # Hugh Manitarian 2015-09-01 02:43
Quoting lfeuille:
RSN has a right to print anything they deem appropriate to their mission. You do not get to censor their editorial choices.


Manitarian to Mission Control. Come in, Mission Control - over. Mission Control to Manitarian. Go ahead, Manitarian - over. Is this real world or is this a drill? Have we really got hijacks by two DP trolls going on live now? - over.

Well, please do excuse the silliness, elfie.

If it turns out you're right, elfie; and RSN deems regularly publishing campaign literature for Billary as appropriate to its real mission, then we'll all be able to just skip RSN and get our corporatist war mongering neocon news digests and analyses directly from DP headquarters, or maybe Crawford, TX, or even Frump Tower, etc. instead.
 
 
+8 # jimmyjames 2015-08-31 14:05
"And she's finally speaking like someone who wants to gain some poll numbers."

Somewhat interesting to read a couple of Hillary supporter posts here on RSN. Not too much in the past few months.
HRC may want to gain in the polls, but she won't. Between the Returds beating her down, Bernie surging everywhere, and the fact that she ain't what she wants you to believe she is, she's already lost.
 
 
+8 # Merlin 2015-08-31 17:02
jimmyjames 2015-08-31 14:05

"…she's already lost."
I personally believe this as well.
 
 
+2 # Bruce Gruber 2015-09-01 09:19
Maintaining the same view, I await Bernie's endorsement by Warren as the final nail in the constructive reestablishment of the FDR Democratic Party.

Trump says it, but doesn't see past his visor - we CAN make America respectable and (finally) a world leader, by example rather than by force. Our coin need not be interpreted by "Caveat Emptor" as our predatory capitalist motto.
 
 
0 # JSRaleigh 2015-08-31 21:31
Manufactured scandal, wholly owned subsidiary of the Republican National Committee.

All we need now if for Ken Starr to come crawling out of the woodwork.
 
 
+7 # andyseles 2015-08-31 22:11
Hillary v. Trump = Corporate media kabuki, bread & circus, "red meat" for the Rinos and Dinos, two sides of the same oligarchic coin. You can choose this mockery of a sham or follow Bernie Sanders.
 
 
0 # Robbee 2015-09-01 20:18
zomblican troll alert! beware zomblican troll! # jsluka 2015-08-31 12:50 "I will NEVER vote for Hillary, under any circumstances."

cat's out of the bag! zomblican troll unmasks! # jsluka 2015-08-30 17:22 "Don't care what you say, I will not vote for Hillary Clinton. Simple as that. It would be better for a Rethuglican to get elected, and bring on the revolution."

- zomblican trolls here are immature, childish brats, lacking any revolutionary discipline - if any revolt and cannot overthrow our 1% masters, we accomplished nothing - then any brats who remain will say(?) "oops! sorry! never mind! our bad!”

bernie proposes a "political revolution" - a constitutional amendment that gets all private money out of politics! public funding, only, of all federal, state and local elections! - if violent revolution does not accomplish public funding, it was not worth the bother! yet will set progressives back a hundred years! - bernie hates zomblicans and hates pointless gestures! begone zomblican trolls! go hide under a bridge! go bernie!

- as though she had none, by training their aim on her weaknesses as a candidate, too many here understate hill's positives, frankly, too many here see no positives at all!

- yes, she is weak tea, compared to bernie!

- no zomblican candidate can match hill! epitome, standard-bearer of women's rights!

beware of committing to bernie and no other dem, writing him in, voting green, all pointless gestures that elect zomblicans!
 
 
-1 # Robbee 2015-09-01 20:27
re : # GreenBee 2015-08-12 07:31
"I am so glad that there is so much enthusiasm for Bernie. But why do so many here assume that his attempts at change will not be obstructed in the same way as Obama's were by the same forces that obstructed them?

"I would love to see Bernie elected but he cannot change much unless Progressives, liberals and Dems start taking back the House and keep the Senate too. That means getting excited in the midterms and getting the base to the polls between presidential races something we do not seem to be motivated enough to do.

"We can get public funding of federal elections if we do this. That is the only thing will bring big change short of violent revolution."

- thank you, thank you, thank you, bee, for listening to bernie, and his demand for public funding, only, of all federal, state and local elections (if you followed his comments after rahm emanuel bought the chicago election, outspending his progressive opponent 4 to 1, i believe you will understand why public funding, only, should extend to state and local elections, too!)

most folks here support bernie but don't bother to pay attention to what he says -

it's like jimallyn, above, who doesn't get why bernie caucuses with dems, votes with dems, runs as a dem, and so, jimallyn wants us to hate hill, to help elect a zomblican - begone zomblican troll!

too many here listen to bernie until he demands public funding or hates pointless gestures that get zombies elected!
 
 
0 # Polisage 2015-09-03 07:15
I am through with Act Blue. It has become a slush fund for the hand-picked. I used to be a Democrat--now I don't even open their e-mails.
 
 
0 # SHK 2015-10-16 23:15
I open their e-mails but I don't give them $$$. I contribute directly to Bernie!
 

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