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Parry writes: "Neocons are the 'masters of chaos' as they destabilize disfavored governments around the world."

Neocons - Paul Wolfowitz, William Kristol and Richard Perle. (photo: unknown)
Neocons - Paul Wolfowitz, William Kristol and Richard Perle. (photo: unknown)

The Human Price of Neocon Havoc

By Robert Parry, Consortium News

17 July 14


hether the tragedy is four boys getting blown apart while playing on a beach in Gaza or nearly 300 killed from a suspected missile strike on a Malaysian Airliner over Ukraine or the thousands upon thousands of other innocent victims slaughtered in Iraq, Syria, Libya and other recent war zones, the underlying lesson is that the havoc encouraged by America’s neocons results in horrendous loss of human life.

While clearly other players share in this blame, including the soldiers on the ground and the politicians lacking the courage to compromise, the principal culprits in the bloodshed of the past dozen years have been the neoconservatives and their “liberal interventionist” allies who can’t seem to stop stirring up trouble in the name of “democracy” and “human rights.”

Rather than work out reasonable – albeit imperfect – compromises with various foreign leaders, the neocons and their liberal allies insist on ratcheting up demands to such unrealistic levels that conflict becomes inevitable and the outcomes are almost always catastrophic.

In Iraq in 2003, the neocons and many liberal fellow-travelers insisted that the only acceptable solution was the violent removal of Saddam Hussein through an unprovoked U.S. invasion. Though Hussein was ousted and hanged, the collateral damage included hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, including many children, along with the complete destabilization of the country.

In Syria and Libya, many of the same U.S. actors – although in this case led by the liberal “responsibility-to-protect” crowd – pushed for the overthrow of the existing governments, supposedly to save lives and spread democracy.

In Libya, the U.S.-led air war did cause Muammar Gaddafi to be overthrown and murdered but the ensuing chaos has led to many more deaths, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens, plus the spread of Islamic militancy across the region.

In Syria, the U.S.-backed “regime change” bid failed to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad but the resulting chaos has left more than 100,000 people killed and has given rise to an ultra-violent jihadist group called the Islamic State, which first emerged from the U.S.-created war in Iraq and has now boomeranged back onto Iraq as the jihadists have seized major cities and spurred more sectarian killings.

But there may be a method to the apparent neocon madness. The neocons have always been committed to protecting Israel and enabling its oppression of Palestinians on the West Bank and Gaza. Indeed, one can understand pretty much every confrontational policy pushed by the neocons as being designed to serve Israeli interests.

These “regime change” schemes can be directly traced to the work of prominent U.S. neocons on Benjamin Netanyahu’s 1996 campaign for Israeli prime minister. Rather than continuing inconclusive negotiations with the Palestinians, Netanyahu’s neocon advisers – including Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, David Wurmser and Mevray Wurmser – advocated an aggressive new approach, called “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm.”

Essentially, the neocon thinking arose from Israeli frustration over negotiations with the Palestinians. The Israelis were angry at Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat and the militant group Hamas as well as Lebanon’s Hezbollah. So the “clean break” scratched negotiations and replaced talking with “regime change” in countries supporting those groups, whether Iraq under Saddam Hussein, Syria under the Assad dynasty or Iran, a leading benefactor of Syria, Hezbollah and Hamas.

Two years later, in 1998, came the neocon Project for the New American Century’s call for a U.S. invasion of Iraq. PNAC was founded by neocon luminaries William Kristol and Robert Kagan. [See’s “The Mysterious Why of the Iraq War.”]

Helpful Chaos

Though many of the neocon plans have not worked out as advertised – the promised “cakewalk” in Iraq turned into a bloody slog – the neocon strategy could still be labeled a success if the actual intent was to destabilize and weaken Middle Eastern countries that were perceived as threats to Israel.

Through that lens, it’s not entirely bad that old sectarian hatreds have been revived, pitting Sunni against Shiite and ripping apart societies such as Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. In the end, the regional chaos has helped Prime Minister Netanyahu starve the Palestinians of the financial support that they once had, supposedly making them more susceptible to whatever demands the Israelis choose to make. And it has given Netanyahu a freer hand to engage in periodic slaughters of Gazan militants, a process that Israelis call “mowing the grass.”

When the 1.7 million Palestinians packed into the Gaza Strip lash out at their Israeli oppressors – as they periodically do – the neocons who remain very influential in Official Washington are quick to dominate the U.S. media, justifying whatever levels of violence that Netanyahu chooses to inflict. But raining bombs down on this densely populated area is sure to kill many children and other innocents.

On Wednesday, the Israeli military targeted a shed on the beach in Gaza. According to reports, the first missile hit the shed and killed one small boy playing in the vicinity. When three other boys began running, the Israelis blew them away with a second rocket. New York Times photographer Tyler Hicks explained the events this way:

“A small shack atop a sea wall at the fishing port had been struck by an Israeli bomb or missile and was burning. A young boy emerged from the smoke, running toward the adjacent beach. I grabbed my cameras and was putting on body armor and a helmet when, about 30 seconds after the first blast, there was another. The boy I had seen running was now dead, lying motionless in the sand, along with three other boys who had been playing there.”

Presumably, the Israeli pilots or whoever targeted the missile deserve the immediate blame for this atrocity. But the far-worse criminals are the Israeli leaders who refuse to address the longstanding injustices inflicted on the Palestinian people. Also, sharing in this crime are the American neocons who justify whatever Israel does.

Similarly, it has been the neocons and their “liberal interventionist” allies who have been stoking the crisis in Ukraine in part out of a desire to drive a wedge between President Barack Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has assisted Obama in defusing crises in Syria and Iran, two areas where the neocons hoped to engineer more “regime change.”

By last September, leading neocons, such as National Endowment for Democracy President Carl Gershman, had identified Ukraine as the geopolitical instrument for punishing Putin. Gershman deemed Ukraine “the biggest prize” and hoped that grabbing it for the Western sphere of influence might undercut Putin at home as well.

Gershman’s NED funded scores of Ukrainian political and media organizations while Assistant Secretary of State Victorian Nuland estimated that the U.S. government had invested $5 billion in the cause of pulling Ukraine into the West. Nuland, a neocon holdover who had been a top adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, is the wife of PNAC co-founder Robert Kagan.

Nuland went so far as to show up at mass demonstrations in Kiev’s Maidan Square passing out cookies to the protesters, while neocon Sen. John McCain stood with the far-right Svoboda Party – under a banner honoring Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera – to urge on the protesters to challenge elected President Viktor Yanukovych. [See’s “What the Neocons Want from Ukraine Crisis.”]

Wreaking Havoc

The political crisis in Ukraine reached a boiling point Feb. 20-22 as the demonstrations turned increasingly violent and the death toll among police and protesters mounted. On Feb. 21, three European foreign ministers reached an agreement with Yanukovych in which he agreed to limit his powers and accept early elections to vote him out of office. He also pulled back the police, as Vice President Joe Biden had demanded.

At that point, however, well-trained neo-Nazi militias – organized in brigades of 100 – took the offensive, seizing government buildings and forcing Yanukovych’s officials to flee for their lives. Instead of trying to enforce the Feb. 21 agreement, which would have safeguarded Ukraine’s constitutional process, the U.S. State Department cheered the unlawful ouster of Yanukovych and quickly recognized the coup regime as “legitimate.”

The Feb. 22 coup set in motion a train of other events as “ethnically pure” Ukrainians in the west were pitted against ethnic Russians in the east and south. The crisis grew bloodier as the ethnic Russians resisted what they regarded as an illegitimate regime in Kiev.

Meanwhile, the U.S. mainstream press – always enthralled to the neocons – pushed a false narrative about Ukraine that put nearly all the blame on Putin, though he clearly was reacting to provocations instigated by the West, not the other way around.

Still, the neocons achieved one of their chief goals, alienating Obama from Putin and making the two leaders’ collaboration on Syria, Iran and other trouble spots more unlikely. In other words, the neocons have kept alive hope that those problems won’t be resolved through compromise, but rather might still lead to more warfare.

While some Machiavellians might admire this neocon “always-say-die” determination, the human consequences can be quite severe. For instance, the violence in eastern Ukraine may have led to the Thursday crash of a Malaysian Airliner flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur with all 295 people onboard killed.

It was not immediately clear which side in the fighting – if any – was responsible for the suspected shoot-down of the plane. The various parties to the conflict all denied responsibility. But it would not be the first time that an international conflict has contributed to the destruction of a civilian airliner.

On July 3, 1988, the USS Vincennes shot down Iran Air Flight 655 over Iranian territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, killing all 290 people onboard, after apparently mistaking the airliner for a warplane.

While Ukraine’s new President Petro Poroshenko was quick to call the crash “a terrorist act” – and implicitly blame the ethnic Russian rebels – the reality is almost assuredly that it was an accident (assuming that a missile did bring down the airliner). Presumably, the same is true about the Israeli twin missile strikes killing those four boys on a beach in Gaza. The Israeli military most likely misjudged their ages.

But the overriding lesson from these tragedies should be that the real villains are people who opt for chaos and war over progress and peace. And, in the case of the Middle East and Ukraine, the greatest purveyors of this unnecessary warfare are America’s neocons. your social media marketing partner


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+55 # Archie1954 2014-07-18 16:59
Nuland and her equally immoral, unethical and criminal husband, both need to be retired to some dark, damp gulag where they can ponder their sins until their demise.
+27 # cicciuzzu 2014-07-18 17:13
Paul Craig Roberts has raised the possibility that the missile was intended for Putin's aircraft which was minutes behind the Malaysian aircraft on a similar path. Nevertheless it was incredibly risky to overfly a war area given that, for example, the USS Vincennes "mistook" a commercial Iranian airliner for a threat.
+40 # ctcarole 2014-07-18 17:31
As well as Israel attacking the U.S. Navy ship USS Liberty in 1967, killing 34 and wounding 171. Our ship was in international waters and flying the American flag but 'accidents' happen.
+31 # Helen Marshall 2014-07-18 19:44
That was no "accident."
+28 # Radscal 2014-07-18 20:22
Nearly all researchers, and the survivors the the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty all agree that it was a deliberate attack.

Here's the website of the survivors:
+1 # bingers 2014-07-21 22:35
Why would the Russian rebels want to shoot down the guy who gave them the missiles and training?
+21 # ctcarole 2014-07-18 17:22
I'm sure the humanitarian IDF called the boys and dropped leaflets telling them to get off the beach. They were just too stubborn and got in the way of the Israeli bombing of the beach to get the Hamas terrorists hiding in the sand.
+21 # Helen Marshall 2014-07-18 18:36
Do you REALLY think that the Israeli forces, with exceptionally sophisticated equipment, did not realize that these were children???
+16 # A_Har 2014-07-18 19:01
ctcarole is obviously being sarcastic.
+44 # Carol R 2014-07-18 18:40
When are humans going to mature enough to realize that killing, and more killing, is not the answer. How much money is being made by creating more intense killing machines? How much damage to life and property is enough?

When will this destructive money be used instead to help people? Health care, hospitals, schools, roads, jobs and pure drinking water would mean people are doing more than barely surviving.

Our world can be better but only if humans move in a different direction. Only mankind spends so much energy, creativity and money on discovering ways to kill it own species.

End the continuing destruction and stop the killing.
+39 # RMDC 2014-07-18 19:45
Carole -- I think all "human beings" who are sane realize that killing and more killing is wrong and never solves any problems. But in the neo-cons we are dealing with clinical sociopaths. If we had a decent society, they would be forced into a psych analysis and then committed as criminally insane. Surely Richard Perle is criminally insane.
+38 # RY25L 2014-07-18 19:14
The Charlie Rose interview with Hillary Clinton yesterday was chilling. The bodies from the Malaysia Air shootdown were still smoldering in its Ukrainian crater and there was a giddy Hillary touting more sanctions on Putin but really this is a slam on the rank and file Russian worker/citizen.

She mentioned GAZPROM several times by name and encouraged Europeans to not deal with them....transla tion: stop getting your energy supplies from Russia and let Texas ship you OUR fracked gas on ships in the form of LNG. How inappropriate and huckster-like was that instead of having some sort of decency.

Nope..this is the NEOCON game to take advantage of events and situations to push once again U.S. corporate hands in the pie approach to foreign policy not based on "democracy" but how much money can be made vis a vis the oil business.

Of course the corporate media never bothered today to ask Hillary just where that replacement energy would come from.... Hillary is further right of Obama and is in the same league as Obama's mentor, John McCain.

Democrats NEED to watch that Charlie Rose interview and get a good look at Hillary unleashed. Remember she was on duty when the Arab Spring was suddenly given its world wide market launch leaving now a huge chunk of the world destabilized. Democrats need look no further than Hillary Clinton for one of the charter NEOCON bad guys.
+19 # RMDC 2014-07-18 19:46
I've seen enough of Hillary and Charlie Rose makes me puke. His whole face is contorted from spending so many years licking the assholes of neo-cons and other war criminals.
+32 # vt143 2014-07-18 19:28
I really am disturbed at how much I hate Bill Kristol. Is there something wrong with me.

Confused with Hate.
+34 # RMDC 2014-07-18 19:47
No you are fine. It is Kristol that has a problem. He's just so smarmy and vicious.
+24 # Douglas Jack 2014-07-18 19:47
Parry, Thanks for elaborating important factors about Neocon destabilization in now over 80 nations worldwide. I add:
- 10th Anniversary of US Iraq Invasion: 2.7 Million Iraqi Deaths By Dr Gideon Polya 20 March, 2013 Countercurrents .org Also see Dr. Polya on war-destabiliza tion deaths in Afghanistan, LIbya, Syria, Lebanon & more.
US dollar as de facto world oil currency & Federal Reserve corporate masters is able to print money without reference to economic indicators.
- US British invasion of Iraq within weeks of Hussein's transfer of oil trades into Euro.
- US, Canadian NATO bombardment of Libya within weeks of Gaddafi's transfer of oil trades into African Dinar.
- US (Nuland etc) ramps up Ukraine violence within weeks of Russia, China, Iran transfer of oil trades into Euro-Asian currency. US knows Svoboda/Pravy-S ektor with < 4% of fixed election votes) & other puppets can't win scheduled election against Yanukovych.
Being bullies, Neocons rely upon violence & war. They're intellectual cowards who've few talents to articulate concerns in both-sided, equal-time, recorded & published dialogues / 'debate' (French 'de' = 'undo' + 'bate' = 'the-fight'). Dialectic-right s must be established for all peoples having opportunity for formally engaging colleagues & other stakeholders.
+26 # Aliazer 2014-07-18 20:08
These neo-cons are an Israeli fifth column. There is no allegiance to this country by them. How this government and 330 million Americans can continue tolerating these traitors is beyond my understanding. Their hands are full of blood as were their brethren kapos' who visited havoc and death on the inmates at the various extermination camps 70 years ago
+33 # dyannne 2014-07-18 21:45
WHY is Victoria Nuland, wife of that neocon Robert Kagan, left in such an important position in our government?
+25 # harleysch 2014-07-18 22:05
For the same reason President Obama invited her husband, Robert Kagan, over for a dinner discussion -- because there is no significant difference between the neo-cons and the "liberal" imperialists, like Susan Rice, who run Obama's foreign policy, when it comes to unleashing the insanity chronicled by Parry in this article.
+35 # AlWight 2014-07-18 23:04
Thank you, Mr. Parry, for saying what needs to be said. If only more people would listen. Why did you leave Wolfowitz out of your list? He was one of the main persons involved in getting us into the Iraq mess. Why Obama listens to these people and the neocons is difficult to understand. It is our one-sided support of Israel all these years that is primarily responsible for the terrorism.
Since I spent a few years in Moscow as the person on the spot with the World Bank assisting in Russia’s transition from Communism, I very much resent our interference in Ukraine. Our people in Washington and the press try to blame Putin for the problems there, but he has been much more responsible and sensible than Obama or anyone on our side, especially McCain and other hardliners. Russia has a long history of close involvement with Ukraine, and has much more at stake than we do. Russia cannot be blamed for being concerned about the Russian speaking people in Ukraine, and the people of Crimea had every right to choose to rejoin Russia. Obama should follow his own advice and promote negotiation by the parties involved to resolve the problems, and should understand that you do not impose sanctions and make threats if you are serious about responsible negotiation. A lot of Americans disagree with the administration and Congress policies here.
+21 # PABLO DIABLO 2014-07-19 00:53
The neocons enrich themselves and WE pay.
+22 # DavidThree 2014-07-19 05:43
I am appalled at Israel's cruelty and disregard for civilian lives. In the 1940's, the Jews (whose descendents now comprise Israel) were innocent victims of an abusive military power which murdered their people and denied their humanity and right to exist. Israel has now chosen to play the other side of that deal.
+13 # Sweet Pea 2014-07-19 06:23
Quoting DavidThree:
I am appalled at Israel's cruelty and disregard for civilian lives. In the 1940's, the Jews (whose descendents now comprise Israel) were innocent victims of an abusive military power which murdered their people and denied their humanity and right to exist. Israel has now chosen to play the other side of that deal.
I am appalled at the human race that sees no solution to problems other than destrruction of human life.
+13 # beachboy 2014-07-19 07:10
The kids on the beach of Gaza were visibly little kids playing. How can one speak such apologetic BS for the disgusting murder of these kids, Robert Parry???? And if they were older, they were still civilian, older kids playing on the beach.( Unlike one of the three Israeli kidnapped 'kids', one of whom was a 19 year old IDF soldier!) It was brutal, hatefilled murder!
+20 # walt 2014-07-19 08:18
Robert Parry is spot on with this article.

We all need to see that the Israel lobby, so well-described in Mearsheimer & Walt's book of the same name, controls most of our foreign policy. It's no accident that the US's "War on Terrorism" has alternately been described as the "War on Muslims" which causes Americans to incur the wrath and hatred of so many in the Middle East.

These neocons he describes need to be ignored in their chants for more war and held accountable as well for their involvement in wars already conducted. The three pictured in this article were prime movers for the 2003 Iraq invasion that was all based on lies. We Americans are tired of being used in wars for Israel while paying with our kids' lives and our tax dollars which are much needed by our own country.

It's time the USA stopped using wars and military as foreign policy, focused on the US infrastructure and people, and worked to establish peace and friendship. And a good start would be a fair and peaceful resolution of the Palestinian matter.
+19 # Sweet Pea 2014-07-19 10:07
It's refreshing to read an opinion by a person who realizes that these invasions only kill people for the benefit of the wealthy investors and the arms providers. We are sacrificing the innocent for the benefit of the wealthy.
0 # Khidr 2014-08-01 12:21
Yes I agree too he is on the spot in this article about the neocons and their meddlings. However I would love to hear Robert Parry regarding 9/11 and who was behind it. Specially the part about bldg. no. 3. I would also like to hear about 9/11 from Snowden, Greenwald, Cole,
Chomsky and others. Their silence on this topic very loud.
-4 # tgemberl 2014-07-19 13:57
Parry makes the best case here that can be made for the "neocon-phobic" worldview.

There are some facts that are not in doubt. Of course the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a terrible thing.

But the doubts I have about this "worldview" are that it underestimates the role of the grassroots movements in these countries. I'm sure he's right that the fall of Qaddafi has led to a lot of violence and death. But after the fall of the corrupt regime in Tunisia, which started the Arab Spring, is it that doubtful that Libyans would want to overthrow Qaddafi? And if so, wouldn't that be their right?

Remember that after the Arab Spring started, Netanyahu actually expressed dismay at the fall of at least Hosni Mubarak. He was apparently quite satisfied by the stability of the region under dictatorial rule, as were the Saudis.

Parry also makes a lot of the "Neo-Nazi" groups involved in Ukraine. Is there any popular movement that can control which elements join them? Even the Occupy movement got in trouble because violent people got involved. And don't claim that was just "agent provocateurs." This is a problem that was acknowledged by genuine supporters of the Occupy movement who are quite skeptical about these things.

I'm also still skeptical about the whole idea that neocons would want to "punish" Putin for brokering a deal over Syrian chemical weapons. That seems a little far-fetched. Is there really anybody in the world who wants someone to gas children? (cont.)
0 # tgemberl 2014-07-19 14:04
The problem is that it would be crazy to go to war with Syria or Iran. After our failure in Iraq, I doubt anybody would really advocate that. Parry's theory only makes sense on the assumption that the neocons want to start a war with Syria. So whether you want Assad removed or not, you would certainly not be dismayed that he got rid of his chemical weapons.
0 # Douglas Jack 2014-07-19 15:11
tgemberl, WORLD EVENTS AREN'T AS THEY APPEAR. We must go beyond 'political' or 'grassroots' analysis. Some say 'follow-the-mon ey'. but in actuality we must understand an economic structure built up over the course of world colonialization . Great wealth began to be formed with Crusade middle-east plunder, invasion overrunning of Africa with 100 million dead, invasion of the Americas with 100 million dead & beyond these with 100 million dead. During invasion/coloni zation, British-crown, Catholic-Jesuit & later Rothschild investing corporations/fa milies built up enormous gold, property, stock, bond wealth because they understand world-control.

The supposed 'Arab' spring is now known to be instigated by western including US, Canada, NATO & Israeli funding of certain dissident (both volunteer & mercenary) actors within & outside of these nations. PNAC, NED, AlCIAda etc fund Social-Media eg. Social-media networks, which don't distinguish by allegiance, but more particularly by level of dissent, even violent western hating agents. Agents were trained & financed to varying degrees & in some cases armed in techniques of media, weapons, social control & destabilization.

In Libya, the Bath party Green Movement was overwhelmed by the western supposed 'no-fly' massive carpet bombing which enabled AlCIAda violence. Libya as Africa's #1 development aid donor is reduced to rubble.
-2 # tgemberl 2014-07-20 18:54
In the page you link to, you talk about Libya's "direct democracy" under Qaddafi. I think this review of Qaddafi's Green Book is quite believable:

“Personally, I consider "The Green Book" to be both hypocritical and contradictory. In the first section, Qaddafi rejects rule by parliament, plebiscite, party or class. He seemingly calls for direct democracy. But does he really? Since there are no political parties, it's unclear how people can organize themselves to express an opinion. Only 'the people's committees' have a right to publish political newspapers. Associations or individuals don't have the right to publish such newspapers. The law of the land is identical to some kind of natural law, rooted in religion, and cannot be changed. The religion is presumably Islam. And although Qaddafi rejects parliaments, there actually is a parliament even in his system, the General People's Congress. The direct democracy is therefore a sheer paper construction."

It appears to be democratic rhetoric exploited by a dictator. Remember that even Adolf Hitler professed a belief in direct democracy.

I bet Qaddafi only lasted as long as he did because of Libya's oil wealth. People didn't live in poverty as they did in Tunisia.
-2 # tgemberl 2014-07-20 19:04
Near the beginning you say:

"Depressing media continually fills the attention of minds to instil continual passive non-involvement . In the third world this mind-penetratio n through social and other media is being exploited for immediate negative impact such as massive street mobilizations, violence and forced change of government."

But you can't have it both ways: you can't say people are too inactive and too active. If people are mobilized, they're not "passive."

I think I might understand what you're trying to say. You're saying that people have an insufficiently deep understanding of things. They are "mobilized" to do something without understanding. But when you look at the way Qaddafi's political philosophy apparently worked, it kept people from forming pressure groups to bring change. Without pressure groups (parties), change can hardly happen.

Those pressure groups are going to be imperfect and even corrupt sometimes. The neocons were (are?) a pressure group that made some serious mistakes. But they didn't control everything anymore than the Vatican does.
0 # Douglas Jack 2014-07-21 17:37
tgemberl, Wow! This is a great review you write. I agree with most of what you have written & appreciate that like Gaddafi, you are willing to state your concepts. Democracy doesn't exist today. I posted these links to say that Gaddafi, Baath Party (Libya, Syria etc) & Libya's Green Movement did have stated principles & practices within decentralized local governments of supposed 'Direct-Democra cy'. These in my mind are similar to the 'Soviet' (Russian for 'local village parliament') system.

Most aren't aware that; Muammar Gaddafi's mother was Jewish & so he by Jewish matrilineal heritage. The Green movement was like the Baath & Soviet systems, 'secular' albeit within a largely Muslim world. Gaddafi's father was Bedouin meaning 'desert dweller' which also composes critical-mass human groupings as local decision-making units of authority & sovereignty.

Indigene Community's study & heritage take us into humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generatin g') practices of Economic Democracy.
Life-long universal progressive ownership in multihome habitation & specialized Production Societies / Guilds. Eco-Dem is a key foundation for 'political' (Greek 'workings of the many') 'Democracy' (Greek 'power of the people'), which is meant as a subset. The most successful human transformations have always been economic.
+8 # ChrisCurrie 2014-07-19 18:58
Robert Perry is WRONG when the lumps "neocons" with "liberals." Liberals would have advocated that UN peacekeeping forces be put in place to solve such problems. They follow the love-your-neigh bor-as-yourself principle. Our nation's "neocons" (war profiteer puppets for our nation's military industrial complex) are the ones who have been advocating unilateral US military actions to deal with such problems (more often than not with disastrous consequences for nearly everyone "on the ground" in such areas).
0 # Khidr 2014-08-01 12:26
Robert Parry probably means neo liberals like Rahm Emanual type, dual citizens the 5th column in our country.
+6 # fredboy 2014-07-20 08:24
Their infectious hatred and evil cost us friends, relatives, and our nation.

May they all baste in hell.
+4 # KDI 2014-07-20 14:59
Sept 11, 2000 - Neocon ; PNAC ; Report ; Rebuilding America's Defenses ; Quotes:
• The PNAC determined that the WTC attacks would likely have been publicly perceived as just a bigger WTC 1993 bombing or a bigger Oklahoma City bombing which were already handled by civilian courts would not be enough.
• Only an attack on an iconic national military facility could guarantee this New Pearl Harbor, and that is why the Pentagon attack was necessary in addition to the WTC attacks which would in turn justify:
• Endless preemptive wars
• Global domination agenda
• Creation of the 1st US mainland combatant command labeled NORTHCOM because even mainland US was part of their Global Battlefield. NORTHCOM also directly facilitated their attack on the Pentagon. Very Important!
• Nullifying joint authority of both US president and Canadian PM over NORAD response and placing authority for said response with the new NORTHCOM.
• Domestic surveillance state
• Constitution Article II - Commander in Chief Powers to violate the Bill of Rights, US Law, International Law and the Nuremberg principles. Initially used extensively by GWB.
+6 # KDI 2014-07-20 15:06
9/11 was a plot whose purpose was to:
• Terrorize the US into putting Israel’s interests above its own: Treason
• Reported dual Israeli-US citizen Paul Wolfowitz was Deputy SECDEF directly under Rumsfeld
• Reported dual Israeli-US citizen Richard Pearle, PNAC signatory and self-proclaimed Prince of Darkness, chaired Rumsfeld’s Defense Policy Board
• Reported dual Israeli-US citizen Dov Zakheim controlled the Pentagon’s finances as DOD’s Comptroller. Additionally:
o Zakheim is a Rabbi who wrote a paper for PNAC advocating a staged catastrophic event to force the US into reconfiguring ME via war
o Zakheim is credited with the New Pearl Harbor quote in the PNAC manifesto
o Zakheim ‘s records were all destroyed, and the Pentagon’s Auditors tracking the missing money were all killed on 9/11 by inside the Pentagon explosives
o Zakheim’s SPC headed the WTC93 attack investigation through which WTC blueprints were acquired which facilitated WTC’s demolition
o Zakheim leased Pentagon converted Boeing 767 Fuel Tankers very consistent with what eye witnesses reported concerning the plane that struck WTC 2
• Reported dual Israeli-US citizen Philip Zelikow headed the 9/11 commission cover-up
• Reported dual Israeli-US citizen Michael Chertoff headed DOJ’s 9/11 investigation and cover-up, and the new Department of Homeland Security. Whose homeland and whose security ???
+6 # KDI 2014-07-20 15:10
Who and what are the NeoCons?
• The 9/11 Pentagon NeoCons Wolfowitz, Prince of Darkness Pearle, Chalabi, Khalilizad, etc . . . are all students and followers of NeoCon founder Leo Strauss who taught at the University of Chicago
• Strauss was even more extreme than his mentor and sponsor Carl Schmitt in Germany who was Hitler’s Legal Theorist.
• The Schmitt-Strauss doctrine is that the State needs enemies and must fabricate lies for the many while its leaders embrace the darkness
• Shadia Drury ; Leo Strauss and the American Right ; 1997 ; Quote: Strauss taught that those who are fit to rule are those who realize there is no morality and that there is only one natural right which is the right of the superior to rule over the inferior
• Seymour Hersh ; Internationally Acclaimed Journalist ; Quote: . . . we have been taken over by eight or nine in a NeoNazi cult. They somehow grabbed the US government by managing to overcome the bureaucracy and the Congress and the press with apparent ease which is testimony about how fragile our democracy is.
• The US government was and still is penetrated and controlled by a Zionist/Israeli Fifth Column that took over the WH, Congress, the Military’s Civilian Superstructure and select officers and intelligence personnel, and the Mainstream Media. The level and extent of this penetration is unprecedented in history and amounts to a literal invasion by an un-American and hostile force.
+6 # KDI 2014-07-20 15:23
So, why is it that Israel Invades Gaza Because It Can? Well, another way to think of NeoNazis is: ZioNazis. Proof positive that terror like Nazism produces a backlash that's even worse.
0 # LAellie33 2014-07-27 03:22
Send these neocons to the Middle East or Russia to fight and die like our soldiers. Only difference: we never want our soldiers to die!

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