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Nader writes: "Don't most Americans believe and want strong law enforcement against corporate crime and fraud and abuses against consumers, taxpayers, the environment and workers?"

Ralph Nader being interviewed during his 2008 presidential campaign, 08/01/08. (photo: Scrape TV)
Ralph Nader being interviewed during his 2008 presidential campaign, 08/01/08. (photo: Scrape TV)

17 Solutions for a Better America in 2013

By Ralph Nader, The Nader Page

29 December 12


t's easier than you think. That's the way I start discussions and interviews about my new book titled, "Seventeen Solutions."

The "solutions" were selected for their long-overdue practicality, fairness, efficiency, safety, employment potential and respect for future generations. A majority of the people, sometimes a large majority, support such redirections. The effects of many of the "solutions" start being seen immediately.

Don't most Americans believe and want strong law enforcement against corporate crime and fraud and abuses against consumers, taxpayers, the environment and workers? The first step is telling your member of Congress to toughen the weak laws and beef up the law enforcement budgets which will pay for themselves many, many times over in deterrence, damage prevention to innocent people, and fines.

It has been taken off the table by both Democrats and Republicans, but a majority of people (including physicians and nurses) want full Medicare for all with free choice of doctor and hospital. Better outcomes, simpler to use, far less expensive per capita, timely diagnoses and treatment, and tens of thousands of American lives saved a year, are the fruits.

Who in your communities doesn't want public facilities (public works) repaired and expanded to meet needs? Ending the vast disrepair in our water and sewage systems, schools, clinics, libraries, public transit, highways and bridges creates well-paying jobs that cannot be exported to China.

Reducing the well-documented, bloated military budget, can release monies for repairing America. Demilitarizing our foreign policy will save the horrendous costs and after costs of these boomeranging wars of aggressive choice.

Get Congress to have "skin in the game," such as no health and other benefits for them, unless all people have them. There would be no taking our country into war without all able-bodied and age-qualified children of the Senators and Representatives being drafted into the armed forces. This duty will encourage Congress to attend to its deliberative, constitutional obligations and not heave them over to a lawless, out-of-control presidency.

Build family and community resistance and engage in alternatives to the commercial exploitation of children by non-stop big corporate marketers. These tricksters undermine and bypass parental authority to sell children junk food, violent programming and other things corrosive of their minds and bodies. Want to poll parent's reactions to those tricks among beleaguered parents who have lost much control of their children to corporatism?

Getting corporations off welfare, making them pay their fair share of taxes (GE is a profitable tax escapee that even gets checks from the Treasury Department due to the rigged tax code), taxing dividends and capital gains the same as ordinary income of working people, and imposing a tiny sales tax on massive Wall Street speculation are changes an overwhelming number of people support.

These advances, along with restoring our civil liberties, using regular government purchasing specifications for better goods and services to stimulate innovation and safety with our tax dollars, are easier than you think. The engine for these changes is organizing Congressional watchdog groups in every Congressional District around these and other solutions. Taking democratic control of the 535 members of Congress, with its ample constitutional authorities, is a lot easier than you think.

Moving our consumer dollars away from global corporations to local community banks, credit unions, farmer markets, renewable energy, and community health clinics, with emphasis on prevention, is a lot easier than you think. Stronger local economies are more self-reliant, they won't be shut down and shipped away or abroad by absentee owners making life-altering unaccountable decisions in their skyscrapers.

Local democracy is, like most ventures in life, a learning process of civic skills and experience. Starting in elementary and high schools, youngsters can shed their apathy or despair by working on real problems in the communities as part of their school-to-community courses. Look at all those high school physics, biology, and chemistry labs that, for example, can be testing air, water, soil samples and electromagnetic levels, and reporting the results to their community.

Studying books such as the newly released Slow Democracy (Chelsea Press, 2012) will give you many examples and tools to demonstrate that it's easier than you think.

Last September, prominent Cornell Economics Professor, Robert Frank wrote a column for The New York Times with the headline "Nation's Choices Needn't Be Painful." He wrote of infrastructure capital improvement programs, new tax policies, reducing highway congestion, curbing carbon emissions and other remedial actions that pay off.

Professor Frank, who told me he's going to write "a small book" on his assertions, says "the endless hand-wringing about painful economic choices is misguided. With a few simple policy changes, we could restore full employment, rebuild crumbling infrastructure and pay down the national debt without requiring real sacrifices from anyone."

Making all this and more happen needs some three million Americans (the other one percent) organized and focused on Congress and state legislatures in ways that reflect the "public sentiment." We have to stop being so discouraged and solution-averse, especially since we have so many solutions already on the shelf, but not on the ground, because we've let the few make so many centralized, top-down decisions for us – "we the people."

No one can stop us from taking these initiatives, except, that is, ourselves. To send us your "solutions" and to order an autographed copy of Seventeen Solutions, visit:

Ralph Nader is a consumer advocate, lawyer and author. His most recent book - and first novel - is "Only the Super-Rich Can Save Us." His most recent work of non-fiction is "The Seventeen Traditions."

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-156 # bobbygoode 2012-12-29 14:50
Here's the 18th solution - don't run for President in 2000 and refuse to take your name off the ballot in Florida. I'm not interested in your 17 solutions.
+42 # awen 2012-12-29 15:48
So, which of the two evils did you just vote for?
+65 # REDPILLED 2012-12-29 16:28
Please see Debunking Pathological Myths of the 2000 Election: Part 1 - CNN exit polls prove that Nader did not cost Gore FL | MyFDL
+53 # NAVYVET 2012-12-29 21:04
I thought that the crooked Fla Republican machine plus the Supreme Court's traitorous "Opus Dei Duo", Scalia and Thomas, were responsible for Gore's phony defeat by Bush. All through 2001 until our insensitive fake president's Trifecta turned around public opinion despite his cowardly, numb response to the fall of the Towers, I was trying to wake up popular support to impeach Bush, Scalia & Thomas, but nobody except some veteran friends seemed to be listening. Where was everybody? Out tarring and feathering Nader? The actions he recommends are good ones--but I dare say they're much too sensible for people who are wearing gizmos over eyes and ears that shut out everything but Faux News. Sorry to say, 2013 may be too late for zombiefied America, so tight is the control of the extreme anarchists who do the dirty work for the Big Everything Greedo 1%. I think we may have passed the tipping point where willful stupidity will kill us. I am almost 77, but if you are younger and can afford it get out with your families or your posterity may all be dead in 30 years--killed off in a contagious plague, poisoned by rotten water from fracking, earthquaked to death by the same, radiated by broken-down reactors, choked by polluted air, starved from droughts and floods, burnt by raging fires, murdered because your skin is the wrong color or you wear a weird turban or speak with an accent or hold the wrong opinions. . . or a hundred other ways.
+9 # bluemonk 2012-12-31 13:18
right on, brother. I'm with you - keep on ranting the good rants. Better than the pablum the press gives us.
+62 # DrEvel1 2012-12-29 16:41
Do you have 17 better solutions? These make good sense to me, despite their slim-to-none chance of enactment.
+31 # kitster 2012-12-29 18:22
are you an idiot or do you just play one on the rsn comments board. nader didn't prevent gore from being president...gor e and his lawyers did.

if the blah, blahers on tv news told you the moon was made of green cheese would you believe that, too?

good god, it's almost 2013. get off your cross, build a bridge and GET OVER IT!!!
+55 # propsguy 2012-12-29 19:13
can we PLEASE stop blaming mr nadar for what was a decision by the Supreme Court of the USA to hand the election to their patsy?

i wish he'd run again. at least there'd be someone worth voting for
+15 # BeaDeeBunker 2012-12-29 19:31
Your 18th solution is over a decade ago.
Where have you been, and what have you been doing the past dozen years? You can't live in the past...Be Here Now!
+11 # Mannstein 2012-12-29 22:03
If Nader hadn't run in Florida the Shrub would have had to cheat even more.
+124 # Erdajean 2012-12-29 15:09
Mr. Nader is precisely right on all counts. His remedies make perfect sense -- and that, in this insane age, is their weakness.
We have been trained for at least three decades to accept stupidity as wisdom,
fraudulence as truth, hatred and violence as our patriotic duty and sustainable abundance as the right of ONLY the ultra-rich.
That's a mighty heavy rudder that has to be turned. Are there enough of us, who care enough to give it the muscle it will take?
+17 # RLF 2012-12-30 08:40
Problem is fitting all of this activism in when people have to work three jobs to get by. The is method behind the rich corps and government madness of getting wages dawn.
+6 # Innocent Victim 2013-01-01 21:08
Yes, Mr Nader is right on all counts, but he should have been alongside Pericles in ancient Athens. Of course, Pericles did not need Nader, because he had a citizenry that knew how to be part of a democratic polis. They had learned the art in the 6th century, BCE. US citizens never really learned, because their framers never intended them to rule and gave them a Constitution constructed to protect the wealthy.
We have come down to the final consequences of the Constitution, a devolution towards a police-state that makes activism and protest increasingly dangerous. This, Mr Nader does not wish to recognize, because he, as I, was raised in the time of the New Deal and the war against fascism. It never dawned on us that, one day, we would be on an irreversible path to fascism. He still does not wish to believe it, but I do.
+59 # barkingcarpet 2012-12-29 15:19
All most "Americans" seem to want or care about are cheap disposable products, and large televisions, as we drive on buy into environmental oblivion, endless wars, and nuclear spewathons such as Fukushima.
0 # RobertMStahl 2012-12-29 16:06
Some perspective might be gained w/r nuclear power. It is one of the universe's three energy, spectrum, obviously the most destructive in its path (of burning). Think of a wildfire w/r nuclear. The present context ignores the spectrum of energy where 96% of the matter in the universe enacts in an entirely unfamiliar chemical process, dark matter. If history matters, look up The Grand Unified Theory of Classical Physics. Again, this is, only, because perspective matters.
+21 # NAVYVET 2012-12-29 21:06
I don't ever intend to join Twitter. What the hell is w/r? Write, please, in understandable sentences.
0 # RobertMStahl 2012-12-30 08:29
with respect to is w/r
+11 # Douglas Jack 2012-12-29 15:50
These solutions are valuable but missing the empowerment of people in their implementation. We need bottom-up solutions from 'tree-roots' with concerted, deep, penetrating, specialized effort. All of us can think of solutions in terms of what we can do as meme, fractal or genes in our own homes, families, building structures, communities etc. which contribute to all levels. We need to imitate ('become the change we want to see') everything we want to happen at government & corporate levels. Humanity's 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generatin g') ancestors & First Nation sovereignty here Integrates the means & the ends seemlessly. When will left & right wings learn they are both needed to fly? bothhttps://sit ite/indigenecom munity/home/ind igenous-circle- of-life
+33 # roger paul 2012-12-29 16:50 is something all of us can do while waiting for the powers that be. It is very simple, and quick. Take a pair of scissors and your credit cards and cut them into small pieces, place in trash (where they belong in the first place). Now buy only things you need, not things you think you need, and pay cash. Of course this requires one to have self discipline.
+31 # Sandy 2012-12-29 17:32
I disagree. You don't have to cut up your cards up to do that. Just don't spend more than you can pay off each month when the bill is due. Having at least one credit card is a convenient necessity for a wide variety of things in today's world (making thrifty online purchases, proving you're credit worthy if you want to buy a house, renting a car when traveling or a truck for moving, just to name a few).
+30 # Misterioso 2012-12-29 18:20
I concur with the thrust of your comment. Regrettably, however, it is very difficult to go about one's day to day business without a credit card, e.g., renting a hotel room.

As Sandy suggests, pay off your credit card balance every month and never give the usurers a penny in interest.
+33 # jon 2012-12-29 18:24
Quoting roger paul: is something all of us can do while waiting for the powers that be. It is very simple, and quick. Take a pair of scissors and your credit cards and cut them into small pieces, place in trash (where they belong in the first place). Now buy only things you need, not things you think you need, and pay cash. Of course this requires one to have self discipline.

And THEN, move your bank accounts to a local CREDIT UNION.
-62 # zornorff 2012-12-29 17:09
Platitudes from the man who gave us George Bush. Give us some specifics that are realistic and ways to put them into action.
+1 # Skeptical1247 2013-01-03 08:54
Quoting zornorff:
Platitudes from the man who gave us George Bush. Give us some specifics that are realistic and ways to put them into action.

Aaargh! Your comment depicts the single biggest hurdle to be faced by the citizens of the US. "Give us"... (cause us poor, powerless dummies can't do anything on our own) "specifics that are realistic" (because even if we are too stupid to figure how to accomplish things, we reserve the right to criticize them) "ways to put them into action" because we can't read and understand things we can do all by ourselves).

In THIS article I count 4 ways you can "put them into action":
1. Petition your members of Congress. How often do you "talk" to them? I petition them approximately 3 times a week on various issues & share those petitions with about 60 people on Facebook who probably share them with another 60, who share them again... and again. It's called leverage....

2. "Teach your children about consumerism and corporatism."

3. "Moving our consumer dollars away from global corporations to local community banks, credit unions, farmer markets, renewable energy, and community health clinics"

4. "Studying - 'Slow Democracy' will give you many examples and tools to demonstrate that it's easier than you think."

Nader is trying to sell his book, he hands you 4 of the 17 solutions, which you apparently missed. Quit whining and buy the book, and replace incumbents w/ Progressives.
-18 # sk8sonh2o 2012-12-29 17:28
Each idea needs to be sold to its opposition party. Show them (and us) 'the money' -what the benefit is for the benefactors. And if you believe we should be smart, show us charts and graphs, breakeven points, decision and tradeoff matrices. Stop talking to the LCD's.
Winsted, CT
+32 # Misterioso 2012-12-29 17:56
Solution #18:

End America's "special relationship" with Israel.
+13 # barbaratodish 2012-12-29 18:05
The biggest "corporate" crime of all IS law enforcement!
+3 # lvpapa 2012-12-29 18:30
In case you haven't noticed, the term "Most Americans" is irrelevant. The 1% run the country and that's all there is to it! Boy are you confused.
+22 # Helen 2012-12-29 18:37
Another thing we all could do is contact our senators and ask them to support Senator Maria Cantwell's bill to tax the production of fossil fuels. With so many people now aware of the disastrous effects of global warming, President Obama is going to have to finally address the climate crisis, and this appears to be a very sensible first step, much easier to implement than the carbon tax in effect in Ireland. It is something we should have started doing long ago.
+15 # wrknight 2012-12-29 19:01
These are great ideas but they lack HOW-TO instructions for implementing them. Clearly the first step is taking democratic control of the 535 members of Congress; but in order to do that we have to motivate voters to stop drinking the Kool-Aid supplied by the 1% via the media. So long as people continue drinking the stuff and avoid seeking the truth, we are condemned.

Even with unlimited corporate spending, there is a simple set of instructions for taking democratic control of Congress. Voters need to follow those instructions; and that requires effort on their part. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to motivate voters to do that, and therein lies the real problem.
-49 # fhunter 2012-12-29 20:06
You bear MAJOR RESPONSIBILITY for more than 100,000 American and Iraqis dead,14 million Americans unemployed, millions of young people cannot afford college. And you want to give advice? I give you one: go and check yourself out at an Alzheimer Clinique.
+13 # ganymede 2012-12-29 20:45
Ralph has really gotten his act together. Effective third party candidates like Nader and Perot have always upset the applecart and in Nader's case, alas, with disastrous results. But all is forgiven, Ralph is one of the greatest Americans and, hopefully he'll get his 3 million active supporters. I'll be one of them and I'm sure some of the moderate rightwingers and ultra progressive leftwingers will join in.
+19 # mikehz 2012-12-29 21:34
The 17 Solutions are right on... and you reference gathering "3 million" people to make them happen. How can we do that? I think the intelligent members of the voting public are looking for a way to take effective action... I know I am.

The other derogatory comments/feedba ck are either sour grapes or ignorant frustration. We can't give up and I really hope there's a path and a coalescing track we can take to start making some tangible progress. (And taking the House back from the Republicans will certainly be a positive step.)
+11 # wrknight 2012-12-30 10:02
The intelligent members of the voting public are doing just that. Unfortunately, they are too few in numbers. The problem is how to wake up the rest of the voting public and motivate them to become intelligent and informed voters.
+9 # Diane_Wilkinson_Trefethen_aka_tref 2012-12-29 21:35
At first blush, the criticism, "Look how badly you did and you are giving US advice???" seems valid. However, it is not, unless the person who erred is advising you to do what he did. My kids often respond to my parenting advice with that same criticism, totally overlooking the fact that I LEARNED from my mistakes and my advice is to do other than what I did. [This often elicits the equally useless criticism that I am saying, "Do as I say, not as I do."]

If an idea has value, it doesn't matter who comes up with it. If a Conservative wants to preserve our Constitutional right to trial by jury and habeas corpus and votes against NDAA, does his being a Conservative negate the truth and validity of his position? Of course not. If a Senator voted for NDAA, does being a Liberal mean s/he did the right thing? No!! Ralph Nader's article has a lot of good points and as wrknight said, one major flaw. There are no suggestions on HOW to implement his ideas. Generalizations about truth, freedom, Mom and apple pie won't get the job done.
+8 # 2012-12-30 01:02
Nader is practical, concrete and down to earth here. I voted for him once and I would again. He's a good idea man. The main point he's making is that we can do it, we can still effect real change by exercising what still remains of our democracy. In the midst of so much cynicism and despair and apathy that is a message that bears repeating.
0 # Kropotkinesque 2016-12-29 16:24
Diane_Wilkinson _Trefethen_aka_ tref 2012-12-29 21:35


Please open
and read my comment-entries beginning with
Kropotkinesque 2016-12-24 21:51
and ending with
Kropotkinesque 2016-12-25 14:03.

Those entries respond to yours posted at Diane_Wilkinson _Trefethen_aka_ tref 2016-12-23 16:15


Also, because of the content of your comment here (Diane_Wilkinson _Trefethen_aka_ tref 2012-12-29 21:35), I suggest you read

+12 # Michael_K 2012-12-30 00:29
The problem with these simple and obvious solutions is that they rely on members of Congress actually doing the people's bidding. The reality, as we all know, is that - between elections - they couldn't give a flying rat's patootie about whatever the people want.
+13 # wrknight 2012-12-30 10:21
Between elections the politicians will do the bidding of those who paid for their election campaigns. And the voters continue to vote for them over and over and over. Some of these deadbeats have been sucking off the public teet for over 30 years.

All the politicians care about is getting reelected. So long as corporations can dump unlimited amounts of cash into election campaign advertizing, and voters listen to that crap and reelect the same old tired politicians, this debacle will continue. But voters don't have to listen to that crap. They don't have to vote for the same old tired politicians again and again. There are lots of people in this country who would make good elected officials and would work for the public good. Let's go out and find them, vote for them and get rid of the deadbeats who serve only the 1%.
+7 # cafetomo 2012-12-30 04:54
Those who can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, learn. Those who can't learn, think politicians change much of anything.

Ralph has always had excellent ideas. But they need The People to enact them, not the political system.
+7 # Big Jake 2012-12-30 05:52
These are practical and necessary actions with only politics preventing their implementation.

A deeper issue precedes all of this. A fundamental understanding of where income is derived from and why do we not have enough, first, as individuals and that ends up becoming National Income. It is the shortage of income that precipitates these real ills that our nation and our families are facing. Coupled with a declining purchasing power of our money, unless we find a cure(and a cure is available), our problems will continue to grow. If we reduce military spending, and we must, we will still be faced with an inadequate income. If we plug the corporate tax loopholes and we must, we will still be faced with the same dilemma albeit not as severe. Our failure to have a national dialogue on these issues serves those who are plundering our nation. History tells us that they have always been with us, even in the time of Washington and Jefferson. We have no allowed them to have total control. However, we have a form of government that will allow us to take control back. We seem to lack the will as yet but it appears that more and more of us have had enough.
+3 # cafetomo 2012-12-30 07:08
Why's Ralph such a flippin' nut magnet? He's been advocating sanity since before seat belts, and gets little more than this entourage of nattering nabobs regurgitating rhetoric in his wake. He has good ideas. What sets them off? His nose hair?
+14 # Ritchings 2012-12-30 07:24
It is absolutely PATHETIC that the first responses to these intelligent and workable ideas is to bitch about the 2000 election. Get over it! Nader was the only real, progressive Democrat on the ballot in those years but the party, philosophically bankrupt and beholden to corporate cash, chose two stiffs to run instead. That's why the Democrats lost the election.
-1 # gdp1 2012-12-30 08:14
...had Nader not been on the ballot, Gore would've won, simple as that....and , we would be wringing our hands over the dirty work of Saddam, Usay, and his brother Q-Tip...woulda shoulda coulda, when Rove has successfully gerrymandered safe districts that insure the continuation of anti- federalist teabaggers....m aking sure that the gridlock continues....if you 'lefties' would get on board w/Obama, and push him to the left.....the intellectual bankruptcy of the right has never been more obvious than it is at this point in history....why do you think they've bought all these guns?....Fear that you lefties will organize instead of criticise.....
+4 # Texas Aggie 2012-12-30 08:27
The main reason that these suggestions, excellent though they are, will not be implemented in any significant amounts is the same reason that Gore lost his election, the people who count are opposed to them. Gore lost the only AfricanAmerican vote (Clarence Thomas) that mattered. These suggestions will be ignored by the only people who matter, those negatively affected by improvement in equality in the US.
+8 # Marxian 2012-12-30 10:00
Ralph is selling his book... What is needed is a new form of an economy that operates for the benefit of the people governed, not the greedy Banksters and their political minions. All power comes from the governed, so why do we act like chicken-shit sheeple? Get a backbone and start with the Federal Reserve. It is no more federal than Federal Express is. It's a group of private bankers that we allow to govern our money supply and affect the economy for the benefit of the bankster masters of the universe (or so they believe.) How much of the so-called "deficit" is actually interest payments on the huge debts foisted off on the working class? The six o'clock news will never tell us. Reject the constant barrage of "main scream" media propaganda and think it over if you have any mind left. Stop the mindless silly thinking - one CANNOT reform something rotten at its core! Use the simple logic used when cleaning out a refrigerator; rotten contents must be discarded and replaced by something fresh. Maybe that's what the Mayan calendar is really about...

"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,-That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government,…"
+3 # tabonsell 2012-12-30 13:42
There are better solutions in the book "Saving America: Using Democratic Capitalism to Rescue the Nation from Economic Folly" (Algora Publishing of New York City).

Such as eliminate the income and payroll taxes to put more money in the pockets of consumers. Then tax profits, including taxes on individuals (i.e. income over $25,000 from profit sharing where one works).

Use individual taxes ONLY for Social Security and a universal health care system.

Corporate taxes fund the Pentagon, interest on the national debt, homeland security and related issues. Corporations now use the Pentagon as a piggybank. If they paid for it they would be less likely to sponge off it. All corporations doing business in America must have a corporate office in America to be responsible for obeying laws and paying taxes.

Taxes on all financial transaction to pay for all war costs over what is normal for defense spending during peacetime. When the investing class pays for war the investing class will try to avoid war.

Transportation taxes pay for a transportation matters.

No borrowing one budget from the others.

Tie corporate CEO profit shares to the number of US citizens employed full time. The more Americans employed, the more the CEO earns. Illegal aliens employed will receive the same compensation as do Americans but will not count to calculate CEO income. That will discourage pitting Americans against low-paid aliens that drive wages down.

(to be continued)
+2 # tabonsell 2012-12-30 13:43
(continued from previous post)

Use a sliding scale on capital gains taxes to encourage long-time investing and make it expensive to engage in gambling with day trading.

Eliminate the inheritance tax, as it is normally constituted, and begin a system in which donations to charities in a will earn a tax-free amount twice as high as the charity donation. When charities contribute to the nation’s general welfare, government can do less.

Enact legislation that says the money a corporation has belongs to the employees, who earned it, and the shareholders, who own the company, and no money can be spent on any matter not directly tied to the business’ core function without authorization of those who own the money. I.E.; no need for a constitutional amendment overturning the Citizens United decision.

A proposal not in the book is to outlaw payment to members of the board of directors from any source except stock dividends. That does two things: makes directors have a financial stake in the company they “direct” and forces companies to bring money stashed overseas in tax havens to the United States.
+3 # HerbR 2012-12-30 14:06
"From your mouth to God's ear' !!"
+3 # davehaze 2012-12-30 22:37
I hang out with a bunch of liberals who to a man and woman believe that Ralph Nader and Nader alone caused Gore to lose the 2000 election, and is thus responsible for every bad thing that has happened on earth since then.

So each time one of them brings this up I suggest we discuss it. That they explain how Nader lost Gore the election and what proof do they have. I suggest that we can even have a formal debate. Me against them. Their rules. That their spouses can be the judges. That I'll tie one hand behind my back. Ha!

Nothing. Only their 100% certainity and professed infallibility that Ralph is the villian --the sole cause -- as if the Supreme Court, or Jeb Bush, or Kathern Harris, or Jim Baker, that Al himself, et al, did not exist. That over 200,000 registered Democrats in Florida who voted for Bush are phantoms who didn't affect the outcome. That the 50,000 black and Latino voters who were illegally purged from the polls wouldn't have put Gore well ahead if they could have voted. Dead stares.

It has become patalogical the Democrats insistance that Ralph remain their scapegoat for all their own fallibility and failures and vitriol.
+2 # Marxian 2012-12-31 12:29
How could anyone "lose" a non-election? Were you and others on another planet during that debacle when U.S. democracy was so blatantly subverted? G.W. Bush was not "elected", in case you and your oblivious bunch of so-called liberals were "out to lunch" at that time, please be aware that Bush was appointed - not elected. Scalia and the the Supreme Idiots finished democracy off in a late night coup. So what are you really saying? That no third party candidate should ever run, only Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum? Some choice!
+3 # 2013-01-02 09:50
bobby goode says to Ralph Nader...... I'm not interested in your 17 solutions.

Me says..... You're a good man Ralph.Us smart ones know you had nothing to do with Al Gore's defeat in 2000. Keep up your good work sir,and thank you for the ray of light above.May this be a good year for tghose of us who deserve it.Peace!
+3 # 2013-01-02 10:05
Douglas Jack wrote: "These solutions are valuable but missing the empowerment of people in their implementation. We need bottom-up solutions from 'tree-roots' with concerted, deep, penetrating, specialized effort."
The Occupy movement comes to mind.They were one big ray of light in my eyes.If that organization would just have had an educated society around them they might have flourished.The people who support organizations like that are generally above average in smarts,socially fit,charitable, well-informed,p rogressive in their views andon and on all the good things this society lacks.They are much more awake than the average sheep who knows not the first thing about thinking for ones self.We are a puppet society fed by puppeteers whose leashes are attached to a corporation whose sole purpose is the earning of profits at the expense of every last living thing on earth.Thank you Mr. Nader for being out there!

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