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Sargent writes: "When all the votes are counted, could Mitt Romney really end up achieving perfect poetic justice by finishing with 47 percent of the national vote? Yup."

Mitt Romney addresses supporters during a campaign rally, 04/24/12. (photo: Getty Images)
Mitt Romney addresses supporters during a campaign rally, 04/24/12. (photo: Getty Images)

Poetic Justice: Romney to Finish Election at 47 Percent

By Greg Sargent, The Washington Post

21 November 12


hen all the votes are counted, could Mitt Romney really end up achieving perfect poetic justice by finishing with 47 percent of the national vote? Yup. Dave Wasserman of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report says new votes in from Maryland put Romney at 47.56 percent. He predicts with certainty that with all of New York and California counted, Romney will end up below 47.5 percent of the vote.

Rounded, of course, that would put the final tally at 51-47. Anticipating this moment, Markos Moulitsas has inaugurated the 'Romney 47 percent watch.

At risk of piling on, a 47 percent finish would represent a perfect conclusion to the Romney political saga. If Romney ran a campaign of unprecedented dishonesty and lack of transparency, virtually all of it was geared towards misleading people about the true nature of his - and his party's - actual beliefs and governing agenda. This was the case on multiple fronts, from Romney's dissembling about the size of the tax cut he'd give to the rich, to his evasions about the overhaul he and Paul Ryan planned for the safety net, to the obscuring of the massive upward redistribution of wealth represented by the Ryan agenda - the GOP's central governing blueprint for nation's fiscal and economic future.

It was fitting that Romney himself unmasked his own apparent beliefs and the broader ideological implications of the larger GOP agenda and the ideas driving it - in private remarks to those who would likely benefit from his policies most. As Jonathan Chait put it at the time:

This is not a random gaffe, a joke gone bad, or even a terrible brain freeze. It is Romney exposed for espousing a worldview that is at the heart of his party's mania. The idea he summed up at that fund-raiser was a combination of right-wing fever dreams ...the Ayn Randism, the fact-free class warfare, the frantic rage at a changing America. The Republican Party is going down because its candidate was seen advocating exactly the beliefs that make the party so dangerous and repellant.

Romney's widely criticized post-election remarks - in which he claimed Obama won by giving core Dem constituencies gifts - were essentially a reprise of the 47 percent remarks. Romney reiterated in overly blunt terms what many Republicans and conservatives have been saying for years - and got disemboweled by his own party after detailing these views out loud, a fitting coda to his candidacy.

And consider the numbers themselves. The Romney victory was always based on the hope that a whiter-than-2008 electorate would ensure that Obama's victory was a demographic fluke. Yet Obama's constituencies - many of whom make up Romney's fabled 47 percent - turned out to add up to the majority, confirming that these ongoing changes are real and inexorable, a sign of what America is really becoming. If Romney's described electorate - the job creators and the makers of America who were supposed to be enraged at all the moochers and the takers - ends up totalling 47 percent, we will have come full circle. your social media marketing partner


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+188 # Barbara K 2012-11-21 17:14
It is disturbing that 47% of the people voted for this crook. He's been screwing the taxpayers for decades. 47% of the people didn't pay enough attention to know who they were voting for. Well, the best man won out in the end. Romneyhood ran a campaign on lies and thievery and actually thought he could win? Geesh!
+32 # NanFan 2012-11-21 17:53
Yes, but TOO great that the 47% he touted as not ever being able to win over OR to vote for him turned out to me so much higher!

And that he lost by 47%; pyrich (sp) justice! Ha!

+12 # Pancho 2012-11-21 20:40
+8 # Kootenay Coyote 2012-11-21 21:06
"pyrich (sp) justice"

Huh? Are you referring to a Pyrrhic victory, which isn't?
+25 # Grumbler 2012-11-21 23:04
Okay guys, a Pyrrhic Victory is one that is so costly to the victor that he/it ultimately loses. I don't believe Obama's was in any sense a Pyrrhic Victory.
+2 # NanFan 2012-11-23 15:31
Quoting Grumbler:
Okay guys, a Pyrrhic Victory is one that is so costly to the victor that he/it ultimately loses. I don't believe Obama's was in any sense a Pyrrhic Victory.

Not Obama! It was "Pyrrhic justice" in that Romney was victorious enough to even WIN 47% of the vote, but he lost so, so much, just as Pyrrhus did in Ancient Greece (though you are right: Pyrrhus was literally victorious...bu t it was an empty victory as he lost so many lives).

The term "Pyrrhic" is often used in referencing "poetic" justice, too.

Sorry...a bit of a stretch, I suppose, as there was little about what Rommey did or "won" that was victorious, except that he managed to even get 47% and that that number did have, as the author said, some poetic justice to it.

I stand corrected, but I was not referring to Obama's victory as "Pyrrhic justice" in any sense of the word. It was not.

+103 # WestWinds 2012-11-21 18:16
At least the country is beginning to wake up and see the error of their ways. Two years ago, you would never have gotten a WalMart employee to go out on strike, but it's happening now. And for all the Right-wing baloney about Occupy being dead in its tracks, Occupy is alive and well and warming up to go into action when called upon to do so. But we can't get comfortable; the Right may have been defeated but they haven't packed up their toys or gone away. We have the Mid-Terms coming up in two years and we need to get the House back so Mr. President will have a Democratic Congress and be able to accomplish some good things now that he doesn't have the threat of a second term election hanging over him. We need to push him to do the correct things by We the People and the stewardship of the planet. Like I said long ago, they may have the money, but we have the numbers. We can do it; yes, we can.
+39 # Pancho 2012-11-21 20:42
Occupy has led the protests against police harassment and unjustified killings in Wichita, Kansas. It seems to be doing very well in Oklahoma City as well.
+31 # doneasley 2012-11-21 22:33
Quoting WestWinds:
... But we can't get comfortable; the Right may have been defeated but they haven't packed up their toys or gone away. We have the Mid-Terms coming up in two years and we need to get the House back... Like I said long ago, they may have the money, but we have the numbers. We can do it; yes, we can.

We can do it, WestWinds, but it's not gonna be easy. The 2010 census allowed the party in power in each state to redraw the districts. Now, many of those districts in GOP-controlled states can't be penetrated. But again with the change in demographics it's predicted that even Texas may go Blue in a few election cycles.

The pundits take seriously (?) the phoney GOP Trickle Down economic argument. What makes them think that after the colossal failure of the Bush years, this same philosophy will work? Insanity, right? These guys have been busy directing America's wealth upward where you and I (and the idiots who vote for them) will never get to it. For them, it's about striking while the iron is HOT! They're busy sucking all of the juice out of the Social Safety Net. While the President begs for a measly 4.5% increase on the rich, they're busy squirreling away tons of cash. Social Security and Medicare, which we pay for during our working years, should not even be part of the discussion.

He cannot give in to the people who call themselves the MAKERS, but end up being the real TAKERS!
+17 # Smokey 2012-11-22 07:56
The pundits take seriously (?) the phoney GOP Trickle Down economic argument. What makes them think that after the colossal failure of the Bush years, this same philosophy will work? Insanity, right? These guys have been busy directing America's wealth upward where you and I (and the idiots who vote for them) will never get to it....

SECRET REVEALED: For the people who manage the Republican Party and much of the global economy, it doesn't matter if "trickle down" works or not... Hey, we're not talking about blessed saints and martyrs who care about humanity's future... The corporate goal is to ALWAYS increase corporate profits and authority by reducing ANYTHING that stands in the way.... "Trickle down" policies are designed to reduce government influence. It doesn't matter if they help the public or not. When the policies fail, just blame the Democrats, or the "normal business cycle," or foreign competition, or the Muslims, or the 47%, or something else.

"The road to serfdom" starts with Ayn Rand economics.... The goal is put an economic elite in charge of everything. To win a few votes, the elitists talk about "trickle down" benefits. It's just a lot of talk.
+5 # Merschrod 2012-11-22 11:06
Good heads up Westy - we do have to get upo and start working district by district to "take back" the congress so that the last two years of Obama will be progressive (for a change) plus lead the way for a non-Republican future.
+2 # drivensnow 2012-11-24 20:45
I think the nation finally saw the real Romney. In his disclosure of his 2011 tax returns, they show he paid $20,000 to 4 maids to clean one of his houses. $5,000 per must be a calculation that saved him from having to pay matching Social Security taxes to the govt. I wanted to see his 2008 tax returns. He invested $43 million of his own money in his 2008 campaign. I would like to see if he figured out a way to deduct the $43 million from his taxes through dummy corporations he has.

The guy is a tax cheat totally. What American President has ever had his money in foreign banks ?? NONE !!!

Bye Mitt....go back to California and supervise the construction of your 4 car elevator...BUTT TT first...Just LEAVE
+40 # Douglas Jack 2012-11-21 18:26
Many estimates of the actual vote (unverifiable because of paperless computerized voting & gerrymandering refusing of eligible voters from their right) are Romney at 5 - 10% less than this 47%. If Americans don't work over the next four years to become an actual democracy even in the most minimal terms, they will be referred to in history only in terms of corruption.

Romney's a prophet, living in a house-of-mirror s accusing his enemies of his own attributes. Self-delusion is self-fulfilling in that; if one such as Romney is tied in with enough capital resources, they actually can create the vision of their own hell. Romney & Israeli's derogatory attacks upon Palestinians is one such example of living & creating the hell of one's own making. The trouble with colonialism such as Canada, USA, Australia, South-Africa & other occupied territories, is that it take us so long to learn the truth. Considering the hell which we continually create for First Nations & indigenous peoples worldwide, colonists wanting justice or social benefits only for themselves, really do deserve the likes of Romney. Its time to recognize who we are.
+6 # dovelane1 2012-11-22 05:33
DJ - By any chance, in your second to last sentence, (Considering the hell...) didn't you mean "colonizers" instead of "colonists." I am assuming the colonizers are the rich, elite, privileged robber barons who come to plunder and misuse everything they can so as to amass their fortunes.

This kind of person doesn't want to make a profit, they want to make a killing. And that is usually what ends up happening to everyone else but them.
+5 # Douglas Jack 2012-11-22 10:58
dovelane1, I meant colonists/'pion eers' ('pion' = 'pawn') primarily because my faith is that; those of us who realize our complicity in the rigged colonial game, can make a difference. Some of my colonist ancestors came in 1650 to New Netherlands (south of Albany), hence I come from mixed First Nation blood.

Dutch & other arrivals could have immigrated with honour attaching their fidelity to the rich productive democratic First Nations as the original Two-Row-Wampum treaty welcomed them to do. At the time because of 'indigenous' (Latin = 'self-generatin g') 3-dimensional Polyculture Orchard management practices, food was abundant, rivers were clean, full of rich plant foods & fish, the top-soil was deep, the climate moderated by trillions of huge food trees, great diversity & quantities of all species. This same massively productive abundance was as well present in Europe pre-Greek & pre-Roman invasions, in Greece & Rome pre-Semitic & pre-Egypt as well as in Palestine, Phoenicia, Egypt, Babylon before the advent of 2-D 'agriculture' (L 'ager' = 'field'), which lowered productivity of food, materials, water & energy cycles by 100 fold (10,000%) as well as creating the deserts which we are familiar with.
+9 # Sacrebleu! 2012-11-22 08:37
Precisely: that Obama won does not mean the election was clean.

Paperless electronic voting should be anathema, as should be all the shenanigans for voter suppression such as local laws to delay counting provisional ballots.

If someone registers for mail-in vote, he should vote by mail, period.

If states want to ID voters (a reasonable concern in my view, although I understand the demographics) the process should be free and expedited, i.e. every voter should get the required ID for free and well in advance.

I don't see why homogenizing elections practices should not be a federal mandate, unless we want to grant Alabama the right to disenfranchise melanin.
+38 # giraffee2012 2012-11-21 18:27
The headline looked like "poetic justice" and "a smile" but Barbara K is right! How could 47% be so stupid looking to FAUX as if it was their bible!
+2 # Barbara K 2012-11-24 10:14
giraffee2012 & genierae: Was out of town for Thanksgiving so late getting back to this story. Hoping everyone had a great Thanksgiving. Yes, I understand that some were stupid and backward enough to vote in a crooked nitwit rather than a good, intelligent man for President. Stupid is as stupid does. Color should not matter and it is shameful that to some it still does. The shame is on them, not the President.
+74 # genierae 2012-11-21 18:42
BK, many voted for Romney because they hated Obama. The racism in places such as W.Va. and states of the deep south brought out many voters who voted not for Romney, but against Obama. If he were white, he would have won by a landslide.
+16 # Grumbler 2012-11-21 23:09
Yes, as a white Southerner, I have to agree; but it's a completely false notion that racism is peculiar to the Deep South. Sadly, it;s everywhere, even though, even in the South, it's no longer socially acceptable to be open about it. In other words, socially acceptable racism has gone underground. Socially unacceptable whites, the ones who drive around with Confederate flags on their pickup trucks, are still blatantly racist; but they are a dying breed in most places.
+7 # genierae 2012-11-23 07:57
Of course you're right Grumbler, racism is endemic throughout this country, but I think it is more concentrated in the southern states. If you look at the 2012 election map it shows that most of the red states, who rejected Obama are in the south. LBJ foretold this when he said that his civil rights platform would alienate the south for a generation. It turns out his time-line was a bit too optimistic.
+9 # Smokey 2012-11-22 08:22
The racism in places such as W.Va. and states of the deep south brought out many voters who voted not for Romney, but against Obama. If he were white, he would have won by a landslide.

The racism in some sections of the Democratic Party (!!!) in West Virginia and in other sections of Appalachia is tragic.... Keep in mind that this is the poorest region in the USA. Appalachia has received massive amounts of Federal aid since the days of the New Deal. While big corporations continue to rape and pollute the landscape.... Appalachia is a very sad place. And very racist.

However, it was Nixon who brought the South and Appalachia into the Republican camp. Racism explains part of the problem but there's more that should be said. Jimmy Carter and Al Gore are white, with Southern connections, but they never had much political support in Dixie.

A right-wing African-America n or Latino candidate for the White House might do very well in the South and in Appalachia.

Politics can be strange...
Billy Graham gave his blessing to a Mormon in the last election.... Conservatives will vote for Blacks, if the Blacks are on the political right.
+8 # genierae 2012-11-23 08:29
Smokey: I was raised in W.Va., in an all-white small town, and the ignorance and racism of the people I grew up with was second nature to them. Fortunately I was blessed with the ability to think for myself, and so I escaped the brainwashing. Most of the people I knew were Republicans, though my uncle Julius got a kiss on the cheek from Eleanor Roosevelt for his fiddle playing, when she visited the state...My uncle Curt was a miner in the southern coal fields all of his life, and he always kept an arsenal under his bed while waiting for the xxxxxxs to rise. I haven't lived in W.Va. for many years but I find it hard to imagine that any white person that I know there would vote for a black man even though he were a Republican...Ac tive ignorance is a terrible thing. They are letting their sacred mountains be destroyed, their rivers and streams be polluted, and even their towns bought off by the coal companies and abandoned. All for the sake of jobs. That kind of ignorance is suicidal.
+4 # bingers 2012-11-23 10:13
Except that it was right wing extremist Franklyn Graham who co-opted Billy's "message." Billy Graham is pretty far out of it these days, probably into full blown senility.
+3 # kyzipster 2012-11-24 08:23
No doubt you're correct but had Hillary Clinton or any other Democrat been in the White House and seeking a second term, the numbers might look very similar. Republicans are experts at demonizing the opposition. If it wasn't racism they were appealing to, it would be sexism. Look at what they did to John Kerry. They don't come any whiter.

Obama no doubt lost the vote of many racist Democrats, and there are plenty in the South, but he also energized the Democratic base which includes every minority that's resented by the Republican base. Not only is the south full of racists, like Arizona, Idaho and other places, but it also has a large African American population and a growing Hispanic population. A diversity that's largely absent in 'red' states in the Western US. Almost every urban area in the South votes 'blue' when you look at a detailed electoral map.

Participating in the GOP's culture war does not serve the progressive movement. This doesn't mean that we should give a free pass to bigots but I think we should acknowledge that racism and an extreme form of conservatism are a national problem and that the south is not a hopeless cause. The more we participate in this divisiveness, the more likely the GOP will always win there.
+2 # genierae 2012-11-24 11:20
kyzipster, I am so happy that we are experiencing this influx of cultural diversity, it will surely take care of the last hurrah of racism in this country. I worked in Washington state with immigrants from around the world, it was one of the most enjoyable experiences of my life. They are amazing people, and it was an honor to work with them.
-8 # FDRva 2012-11-22 23:43
Yep. Romney is toast, and largely deserved it. The GOP is morally and intellectually bankrupt. Sadly, they are not alone.

Clearly, the better Wall Street front-man won Nov. 6.

And, right on cue, Israel got the green light for expanded regional war from our re-elected "progressive president."

Russia is likely Barack Mussolini Blair's next target--look at a map--why else are Turkey and Syria in the news...
+4 # brenda 2012-11-23 05:03
Yes, I agree with you. And that 47% bunch consisted of:
All types of right wing nut jobs inorgainations who were bigoted against a black man as a president. Plus your average run of the mill bigots not connected to such organizations.

The right to bear arms NRA cranks who want their right to buy their military weapons and carry their hand guns and rifels around in public.

A whole bunch of Christian people who voted Republican for his anti-choice for womens reproductive organs and fetus. And his anti-gay rights and marriage equality position. You could also throw in the Utah Mormons for the same reasons as mentioned above, plus because he's a Morman like them.

Lastly theres the dupes who think Romney Has all the ansers because FOX News, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbereger, O'Riley, and Hannety said so.

Oh, I forgot about the filthy rich Aristocracy.
+69 # ghostperson 2012-11-21 17:19
47%, this is simply too delicious. How do you say collective one-finger salute to heaven? Revenge of the 47%.
+39 # WestWinds 2012-11-21 18:17
Yah, and where are all of those pundits that used to plague this list telling us Robme was going to win???
+94 # fredboy 2012-11-21 17:20
Hilarious how two weeks ago this guy was the new Christ, and now the Repugs never heard of him. What a bunch of creeps and losers.
+30 # davidh7426 2012-11-21 18:13
Lets just hope that this one doesn't get resurrected.
+9 # Grumbler 2012-11-21 23:11
There'll be no "LAZARUS COME FORTH" for Romney.
Yes 47 percent IS too delicious for words.
+10 # dovelane1 2012-11-22 05:38
Fred - I don't know where I read this, but the idea was that the Republicans eat their dead. Well, Romney is dead, and he is being eaten.

If we could just put all of the control freak, religious, anti-scientific zealots in one single small territory, maybe they would take care of the problem and do each other in.
+46 # tbcrawford 2012-11-21 17:31
Wonderful observation :-) Thanks
+28 # AMLLLLL 2012-11-21 17:38
This irony triggers a memory of a journalist reporting in the GOP primaries. He was alone in some VFW hall or somesuch with Romney, early on, and asked him why he wanted to be president. He was stunned to find that Romney had no response. None.

The next week Romney started adding in his stump speeches why he wanted to be president, which read like a generic laundry list.

Heck, he might have won if he'd really had an answer in the first place.
+25 # jsheats 2012-11-21 20:34
Exactly!! One could be excused for thinking he had absolutely nothing in mind other than adding it to his resume, or a "bucket list".

The only public persona I can think of who is more vacuous would be Donald Trump.
+6 # AMLLLLL 2012-11-22 10:22
I doubt Romney was aware that underneath any rationale he might have entertained was an unconcious drive to outdo his father. Dubya, McCain, all driven to one-up dad. This shows up prominantly in each of their signatures.
+8 # kelly 2012-11-22 20:11
He's the only one more vacuous? Poor Sarah Palin, how soon we forget...

I think I can see her from my back porch here in Austin with the other vacuous one, Rick Perry.
+9 # vitobonespur 2012-11-22 03:32
Lemme guess...was "world peace" one of his reasons? No, I didn't think so.
+5 # bingers 2012-11-23 10:17
Quoting AMLLLLL:
This irony triggers a memory of a journalist reporting in the GOP primaries. He was alone in some VFW hall or somesuch with Romney, early on, and asked him why he wanted to be president. He was stunned to find that Romney had no response. None.

The next week Romney started adding in his stump speeches why he wanted to be president, which read like a generic laundry list.

Heck, he might have won if he'd really had an answer in the first place.

According to his wife, it was because it was their turn. On another note, remember when she said she feared for his mental stability because of the stress of running? From his statements after his well deserved drubbing, it's apparent she was right fearing for his sanity. Clearly he has none left.
+30 # bingers 2012-11-21 17:43
Gotta love it, especially when you consider that a majority of the 47% he slandered were mostly his base.

When he joined the church he thought they said Moron, not Mormon. Imagine his surprise. Not as much as when so much of the Republican vote flipping apparatus failed. (Thanks to Anonymous????)
+18 # lisamoskow 2012-11-21 17:46
Also poetic justice that many people spotted Romney at Disneyland!
+6 # cordleycoit 2012-11-21 18:15
Looks like the wonks were votes wise. If they are justice wise there ought to be a clies look at Bain.
+17 # luvdoc 2012-11-21 18:46
Go Repugs, go. From bushie boy, who has become a gop unmentionable, to the two face legacy of rommneyhood.... luvdoc
+21 # Pickwicky 2012-11-21 19:09
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha and hah!
+2 # bingers 2012-11-23 10:19
Quoting luvdoc:
Go Repugs, go. From bushie boy, who has become a gop unmentionable, to the two face legacy of rommneyhood....luvdoc

Only two? I think I counted 27.
+32 # genierae 2012-11-21 18:56
Republicans have everything backwards. The "makers" are those in the middle and working classes who are overworked and underpaid, with bad working conditions, many with no insurance, forced to work two or three jobs to get by, and still have the highest production rate in the world. The rich get richer off the backs of the working men and women in this country. The higher pay and good benefits that workers should be getting, go to enrich the wealthy "takers" who get fat on caviar and fill up their mansions with luxuries. If it weren't for the "makers" like us, the "takers" would soon starve.
+12 # dovelane1 2012-11-22 05:50
I see the rich as being very dependent or co-dependent on those that work to keep them at or near the top of the pyramid.

As with all co-dependencies , the rich are in denial of how much they are dependent on other people for what goods and services they have. Sure, they pay money for them, but if workers had no use for the money, the rich probably wouldn't be able to do much of anything to take care of themselves.

They wouldn't be able to make their own clothes, make or grow their own food, do their own plumbing or electrical work, build their own computers, and so on.

As the quote goes, "When someone tells you they got rich through hard work, ask them 'Whose?' "
+5 # genierae 2012-11-23 08:35
Excellent quote!
+3 # Barbara K 2012-11-24 10:26
dovelane1: Love it! We know it wasn't their hard work. They don't know the meaning of hard work. To them hard work is counting all the money they got off the backs of those who did do the hard work.
+3 # Barbara K 2012-11-24 10:24
genierae: I was thinking the same thing. The wealthy want to think we are the takers, but they are the real takers. We ARE the makers. We make the goods that make them wealthy, they take and take and take. I'm so glad I was not alone in that thought. We do know who the Real Makers and the Real Takers are. Thanks.
+3 # genierae 2012-11-24 11:26
We who are the workers know who the real makers are, BK. We have been in the ranks, and we have felt the lash of the whip, so to speak. They can not fool us. They are on their way down, we are on our way up! Thanks for your reply.
+27 # 2012-11-21 19:06
The "Makers" beat back the attempted corporate coup represented by the Romney candidacy.

That would be the makers of the homes that Romney owns, the makers of the cars he drives and the roads he drives them on. The makers of the health care and medical education that has helped his wife to remain high function with her MS. And, of course, the makers of all those pension funds he and his buddies at Bain Capital raided to become multimillionaires.

The Takers, Romney and his cash-hoarding friends lost out to the real Makers. Another interesting twist on the Romney theme in this campaign.
+6 # kelly 2012-11-22 20:14
Well Romney made something:

He made his bed
now he can sleep in it
magic underwear and all.
+28 # Billy Bob 2012-11-21 19:12
Besides, anybody who espouses the belief that people who don't make their money from working (but from investing money they already have) should be exempt from paying taxes, IS THE REAL MOOCHER AND TAKER.
+2 # Barbara K 2012-11-24 10:29
Absolutely, BB! They are all moochers, living off the rest of us who pay our taxes. They pay very little if any taxes. We know they are the real Moochers and Takers. Time to let them know that we have their game figured out and we're not playing it any more.
+12 # JH Gordon 2012-11-21 19:21
Mitt could say America didn't like him. Now he can say America REALLY didn't like him. And why should he wonder? America didn't want a corporate chop-shop guru selling all of us down river. On the other hand, if all things were equal in MSM Land, a third party would have walked away with it. We need change and we need to support third parties. Especially third parties who have Getting Money Out of Politics as a priority. The Justice party just got started, give it a look and maybe we can restore Democracy to the USA. It's important to remember, this is a movement, with a very basic plan, the Constitution is a job description for office holders. It's that simple.
JH Gordon
+23 # jsheats 2012-11-21 19:34
The 47% comment certainly contributed to his defeat; whether it was decisive or not is of course speculation. But what amazes me is how people could listen to him talking down to them all the time, never saying anything other than "That man has screwed things up and I know how to fix it"; never once providing a real analysis or proposal. I swear if I had a dollar for every time I heard him (on NPR in short trips to my son's school twice a day) say "I know how to fix this", I could have a really nice celebration. But if the dollar were for every time he actually explained what he would do (besides cut taxes for himself and his friends), I'd be staying at home with a bag of cheap popcorn at best.
+9 # genierae 2012-11-22 06:22
It amazed me that he and his fellow plutocrats were speaking so candidly in front of the "help", as if they didn't exist. If he had been elected, he would work only to increase the bank accounts of the rich and treat us as if we didn't exist. And it was quite a hoot that the person who taped his comments was a relative of Jimmy Carter!
+24 # vgirl1 2012-11-21 19:46
This is wonderful.

Couldn't happen to a "nicer" guy!

Karma is a monster.
+20 # Wyntergreen 2012-11-21 20:57
Romney's just another punk. May his legacy decompose on the compost heap of History.
+10 # Grumbler 2012-11-21 23:21
He gets the Spiro Agnew award for double talk and W's Brass Monkey award for being too stuck on himself to realize the people would eventually get it: the Emperor-in-Wait ing has no clothes.
+8 # dovelane1 2012-11-22 05:59
I'm thinking his legacy should be that the American people learned a great number of lessons about who we should trust to lead the nation, not take for granted voting rights, not take for granted that someone else is going to pay attention for us.

The great lesson should be that this process is all about citizenship, and that we need to support and grow better citizens as much as possible. Better citizens means better government.

Ignorant and stupid citizens means worse government. The people who want to keep us afraid, ignorant or stupid are the ones we, the people, should never, ever trust.
+2 # Barbara K 2012-11-24 21:44
dovelane1: EXACTLY! Do you know of They are a petition social site. Well a Romney group is trying to buy them up. Won't be long til he takes them down and walks away with millions of dollars and we lose a good site.
+2 # Davethinks 2012-11-21 21:33
The spelling you wanted is "Pyrrhic." And yes, it is a victory won at too high a price.
+14 # Larry 2012-11-21 21:40
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Turns out that the Legion of the Fooled, including folks of both the pro tem and ad infinitum varieties, was not as formidable a voting bloc as boasted by Bullshit Mountain and the right-wing blogosphere; the members were just more shrill and manic.

Unlike Romney, Demographics don't lie. Independent and undecided voters were critical to win the election. But far from offering an argument that would bring them home for the GOP, Romney showed the electorate blatant insincerity, free-castering morality, greed unbound, defiant hypocrisy, an apparent addiction to lying, unabashed shape-shifting, unapologetic, calculated indifference toward the problems of those whose support he needed the most and general shamelessness. All of these taken together raised the specter of, among other things, Gordon Gekko in the Oval Office, and repelled independents and undecideds with hurricane force away from the retrogressive Sirens of the far right and toward the progressive agenda of the Democratic Party.

Thanks, Mitt, and for conducting the most bizarre, wrong-headed, counter-product ive presidential campaign I can remember, it also turns out we owe you one. No, not really. Um, wait, does that sound familiar?
+14 # banichi 2012-11-21 22:04
The 47% number is pretty interesting, when you remember that Romney's '47%' comment originally was to the effect that about 47% were going to vote for him, 47% for Obama, and the real battle would be over the 6% of undecideds or those whose minds could be changed. If that's the case then we see that the percentages are kind of strange. Yes, Obama won by (at least) 4 percentage points in the official voting. Maybe more if Douglas Jack above is right and Romney got really 5-10% less than that 47%. I doubt we will ever know.

But what sobered me up considerably shortly after the election was when I heard, or read, that only about half of eligible voters had voted. Sorry, wish I could remember who said it, but I'm sure the numbers add up, that is, total votes cast versus total eligible voters. I will try to find out since if true, that means that half of voting Americans didn't think it worthwhile to get themselves to a voting booth or to fill out a vote-by-mail ballot.

Now that really sucks. It means that in real general terms, by that number, Obama won by not 51% of the citizens of the U.S., but by votes of half that. And Romney lost by the same.

And if that's true, then half the voting population of the U.S. is still asleep. That's the real job to come, waking them up.
+6 # 4yourinformation 2012-11-21 22:06
47% ehh? LOL! Serves him right.

Now...what about the grand "bargain" basement safety net deal?
-39 # Joeconserve 2012-11-21 22:29
Mr. Sargent and the rest of the commenters do not understand the language of a person fluent in the jargon of the business world nor have taken the time to put in context what Romney said about the 47 percent. All of you were, in a sense, waiting for the word or phrase that could be used to slam Romney. But, what you all have really done is to show your ignorance and bias.
+11 # dovelane1 2012-11-22 06:12
The supposed real meaning was explained by K. Parker, conservative writer out of Washington, D.C.. I understood what he was saying. I also understood that he put all those people in a single category, and dismissed them. To me, that means he knew he didn't have the ideas necessary to change their point of view.

In fact, I think if he had told the truth about what his exact plans were, he would have gotten less than the 47% of the vote he supposedly got. My belief is he knew he couldn't win by telling the truth, so he thought he had nothing to lose by lying. To me, that's what the 47% quote really indicates.

The fact that he allowed himself to be candid ONLY with those he believed agreed with him, only supports my theory that he couldn't tell the whole truth outside that kind of group of supporters.
+11 # genierae 2012-11-22 06:31
Yes I'm certainly biased against the suffering of the poor, I'm biased against Wall St. fat cats, I'm biased against obscene wealth held by a few, I'm biased against dying because you have no health insurance, I'm biased against corporate welfare, I'm biased against drilling in our National Parks, I'm biased.....You get the picture.
+1 # Sacrebleu! 2012-11-22 08:37
How so, pray?
+2 # gslusher 2012-11-22 00:36
"At risk of piling on..." Oh, do keep piling on!
+8 # MainStreetMentor 2012-11-22 06:23
I hope that this article is the last one I see with the name or a photo depicting the man who could have held the reins which most probably would have led our country to ruin through his and his cohorts’ stated policies. Enough about this man; Enough about the failures or shortcomings of the RepubTeacan party and its’ miscreant leadership. I do not want to read about what the RepubTeacans should have or could have done to make their stance better – because doing so provides fodder and nurturing to their repair – and I do not want that democracy-destr oying group to recover. Let them wallow in their own self-made political mire.
+6 # hoodwinkednomore 2012-11-22 08:57
Romney has been sucking off the teats of the 99% for so long that he got drunk on the nourishment and called us the 47%. Now he's trying to find his way home...
+5 # AUCHMANNOCH 2012-11-23 02:10
Sorry MainStreetMento r but Boener is still sucking up to the Tea Party nutters and is now saying that Obamacare cuts should be on the table in the Fiscal Cliff saga. Won't these people ever learn?
+5 # Catherine 2012-11-23 11:28
Truth to Power. The people have chosen progress rather than usury. Change is in the air thanks to the veracity and sageness of Americans. Work hard and the political agenda will only improve. There are still contentious representatives in power but when the truth and momentum becomes apparent they are history. This is the moment to work and focus at these Senators and House members whether or not they represent you in your home town. They represent all of us. Also President Obama needs to hear our voice on global warming, voter reform, taxes, and he must stand up to the 1% rich and say NO!
+4 # WIZ 2012-11-23 11:36
Isn't it funny that what goes around comes around. Romney was a two faced scumbag from the gitgo, and his running mate eddie munster is no better.
+5 # Corvette-Bob 2012-11-23 14:28
Before the election started the figure was given that the floor for either party was 45% of the votes. So, based upon Mitt receiving 47% means that he spent, what a billion dollars, to convince 2% of the population to vote for him. Considering that he never took a firm stand on any position and he never gave any specifics, except to say that the economy is weak and I am a business man and I can do better, he did remarkably well all things considered.

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