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"The footage of Eastwood rambling and mumbling to his "Harvey" - President Obama - will be played to audiences a hundred years from now as the Most Bizarre Convention Moment Ever."

Actor Clint Eastwood speaks during the final day of the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla., 08/31/12. (photo: Mark Wilson/Getty Images)
Actor Clint Eastwood speaks during the final day of the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla., 08/31/12. (photo: Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

Creepy Clint Made Our Day

By Michael Moore, The Daily Beast

31 August 12




peaking to Invisible Obama last night, in a performance that seemed to have been written by Timothy Leary and performed by Cheech & Chong, Clint Eastwood  was able to drive home to tens of millions of viewers the central message of this year's Republican National Convention: "We Are Delusional and Detached from Reality. Vote for Us!"

The footage of Eastwood rambling and mumbling to his "Harvey" - President Obama - will be played to audiences a hundred years from now as the Most Bizarre Convention Moment Ever. The people of the future will know nothing about Dirty Harry or Josey Wales or a Million Dollar Baby. They WILL know about the night a crazy old man hijacked a national party's most important gathering so he could tell the President to literally go do something to himself (i.e. fuck  himself). In those few moments (and these days, it only takes a few moments - see Anthony Weiner), he completely upended and redefined how he'll be remembered by younger and future generations.


A few years ago, at the annual National Board of Review film awards held at Tavern on the Green in New York, I was there to hand out one of the honors. When it came time for Eastwood to accept his, he went up to the microphone and growled to me in front of the audience, "If you ever show up at my house with that camera, I'll shoot you on sight." The audience laughed, I laughed, but the person who issued the threat wasn't laughing. That creeped me out a bit.  I made sure never to go stand on Clint Eastwood's lawn.

But as I said, the best outcome from the incident last night was that it showed just how out of touch Republicans are these days. It's as if they want a divorce from us, the American mainstream, so they can go live in the land of legitimate rapes and ice caps that don't melt. Most Americans don't live there on Planet Koo-koo, and I don't suspect many will be visiting there any time soon.

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+261 # Barbara K 2012-08-31 11:11
I didn't watch any of the RNC Convention. I knew I wouldn't be able to stomach it. Yes, the sight of Clint Eastwood has forever changed in my mind. No more hero to the rescue person on film. Your description was so apt that I didn't need to see him to envision the sight. lol. Yes, it was certainly put on visual display how delusional and nasty the Repubs have become. This is the worst set of candidates I have ever seen expecting us to vote for them. They lie, cheat, steal, and are a true danger to the people of this country. Presidential material? NOPE.
+128 # AMLLLLL 2012-08-31 13:49
For the DNC, someone like Chris Rock should interview an empty suit.
+59 # michelle 2012-08-31 14:34
'empty suit'! So brilliant, I am still laughing. What a great idea.
+41 # in deo veritas 2012-08-31 16:37
THAT would be worth seeing on Pay Per View!
+121 # X Dane 2012-08-31 16:09
Barbara .
I am usually in agreement with you. However,.... as I kept a bucket near...I watched pretty much all of the convention televised...sto mach churning though it was. You DO need to know what your opponent says and is up to.

And they sure were up to NO GOOD. the lies were flying faster than a supersonic plane. They were incredibly vicious and nasty, and it was difficult not to kick the TV screen in.

I DO HOPE that the democrats will be FACTUAL and upbeat, not mean and nasty like the republicans were.

Reince Priebus is a nasty little SOB and Boehner and Mitch McConnel were as mean as we would expect...and then some.

Boehner had the nerve to liken the president to a rowdy bar patron that he would throw out like so much trash...his words. THAT is the Boehner, some call a nice guy REALLY???

As infuriating as it was to watch, I am glad I saw what a bunch of disgusting stupid disrespectful bastard the republicans were. You CAN be against someone without being that sickeningly mean.
+80 # in deo veritas 2012-08-31 16:38
The psycophantic behavior of the attendees reminded me of Nuremburg in 1934!
+23 # QDP 2012-09-01 09:42
Yes, we have not learned from the cause of loss of the Weimar Republik. Lies, Propaganda and Distortion.
+67 # in deo veritas 2012-08-31 16:42
Their nastiness is just to cover up their cowardice since they have no positive ideas just gutter invective and a medieval view of the world. NIHILISM is their watchword. I wonder how many of them had their hoods and robes in their hotel rooms.
+51 # Barbara K 2012-08-31 17:01
XDane: I saw enough, so much has been replayed over and over and written about, so I know what happened and didn't have to upchuck at all for the info. lol. I watch the Senate and House and I know how mean and nasty McConnell and Boehner are. I really could not have watched the nastiness they were bestowing on our Commander-in-Ch ief.
+27 # X Dane 2012-09-01 00:02
I understand Barbara. It sure wasn't easy.
The utter disrespect they all had for our president is truly sickening. You can disagree without being THAT vicious, but they are reveling in it, like pigs rolling in filth.

I also see what is going on in the Senate and the House and it is appalling to see the fools that are let in there.
Louis Gomert of Texas is a certifiable idiot, and it is scary to think of all the ones who elected him?? SEVERAL times.

If you ever come to California Barbara, I would love to have you visit me, We could talk all night, I think
+14 # Barbara K 2012-09-01 07:02
X Dane: Thanks for the invitation, I'll keep it in mind. If you are ever in Michigan, let me know. I agree, we could talk a lot. Maybe come up with a plan to solve the country's problems. lol I love California, haven't been there for awhile.
+2 # DPM 2012-09-03 18:02
Barbara. If you are near T.C., join us for our Occupy demonstration each Saturday.
+1 # bmiluski 2012-09-04 08:57
I know some republicans and I cannot understand their total lack civility. The fact that they couldn't understand the basis of John Stewart's "Return to Sanity" ralley in D.C. tells you a lot about those people
+12 # QDP 2012-09-01 09:41
Why, though, Xdane is this necessary?

Our system is broken when the choice of all leadership reverts to money spent. One BILLION dollars to reelect a person ? Jefferson et al. are rolling over. Something is really wrong here with all our fat cats, all the Bipartisan bitchin', and a system that does not elect the Best and the Brightest, just the worst Liars and biggest Pretenders and the most consummate Exaggerationali sts.

No one talks about Mittens shifts, from Pro choice to poor life, from War hawk to peace dove, and back, from big spender to frugal T party-ist. There is no Repunant Social Agenda.

This is the America we have, because of how we voted. This did not start with GWB, but it sure as heck is ending up as the demise we can no longer control. Our munis are bankrupt from spending more, our banks are purchased for the greed movers, our treasury is favoritist elite inclined as too big to fail (PRINT MORE MONEY!) and the world is burning up with need and blame, by our example in the choice of our leadership.

I fear for this country because many see this, and few can bring about CHANGE. . .
+16 # X Dane 2012-09-01 18:33

I share your feelings of despair and disgust. As I mentioned, it was sickening to watch, but if I had not, I could not respond to people perpetuating the republican lies. I too fear for the country my children will be living in a lot longer that I will.

The BILLIONS spent on spreading lies could make you sick. Imagine all that COULD HAVE BEEN achieved with that money.
It is pretty sad that those people would rather spend the money on nasty ads, when there is so much need
+7 # pernsey 2012-09-02 06:46
Quoting X Dane:

I share your feelings of despair and disgust. As I mentioned, it was sickening to watch, but if I had not, I could not respond to people perpetuating the republican lies. I too fear for the country my children will be living in a lot longer that I will.

The BILLIONS spent on spreading lies could make you sick. Imagine all that COULD HAVE BEEN achieved with that money.
It is pretty sad that those people would rather spend the money on nasty ads, when there is so much need

Hi X Dane, I totally agree with you!
+6 # unitedwestand 2012-09-03 00:01
I forced myself to watch some of the speeches for some of the same reasons you mentioned. I'm sure my neighbors heard some of my talk back to the TV, mostly saying "lying piece of s**t" and more. I've seen Republican audiences and heard speakers before but never have I seen such a confluence of certifiable zombies, with so many bleach blonde, molded hair women, and men that I was sure stroked their crotch so they could be reminded of Bertha the gun they had to leave at home.

But the apex was Their Man Clint, I couldn't concentrate on Rubio or Romney too much after that, except to hear some of the typical talking points and general gratuitous patriotism.

Michael, you may want to keep Clint off of your lawn.
+11 # NanFan 2012-09-02 11:31
They should have had the hook ready to pull this guy off stage...but...t he vapid Republican crowd loved it.

Laughable in that, but also very...VERY scary!

+206 # colvictoria 2012-08-31 11:12
I had so much respect for Mr Eastwood and his amazing movies but I had no idea he was a Republican. Last night's performance was like Mr Moore said "creepy". He's obviously lost his marbles and he definitely should stick to his day job.
+137 # Skanner 2012-08-31 12:51
It would be better if he simply retired, and rested on his considerable cinematic laurels. There is only one word for how far this once-iconic man has fallen, and that word is SAD.
+26 # in deo veritas 2012-08-31 16:46
Did you ever see any interviews with Chuck Norris? There you were seeing a really creepy chauvainist.At least Clint has a sense of humor and has done geat things in his field tho stumping for the Repugs is not his strong suit.
+44 # Majikman 2012-08-31 18:31
Eastwood is in the category of actors I used to like but now can't bear to watch, like Mel Gibson and Tom Cruise, once their real character was revealed.
+13 # beeyl 2012-09-01 22:01
Even though I knew his party affiliation, I'd always thought of Mr Eastwood as the rarest kind of Republican: one who's also reasonable. In my family, there are such folks - who believe in mostly liberal and progressive things, but for whatever reasons, remain in the GOP and continue to vote for Republican candidates.

Unfortunately, dementia and delirium often rob even the most reasonable people of their highest cerebral functions first, while leaving more primitive ones alone, replacing good judgment and kindness with impulsiveness and rudeness, mental tranquility with anxiety and anger, and in general, frontal lobe emotional intelligence with a raging amygdala.

Clint Eastwood never got very close to being a perfect man (fathering 7 children by 5 different mothers is proof enough of that). But what virtues he obviously did possess are clearly and badly diminished and will continue to fade. And it's a shame that someone in his family or circle of friends could not keep him from demonstrating that diminishment so sadly Thursday night.
+15 # Lennie 2012-09-01 22:31
Please don't give "Dementia" a bad name, by saying that this "performance" might have been due to it. Maybe it's just better to call things what they are--some people are just simply,"JERKS."
+158 # fredboy 2012-08-31 11:13
Always enjoyed Clint's movies, but can't say I got a kick out of watching him plunge into senility.
+38 # juliajayne 2012-08-31 15:21
I viewed the video after reading all of the comments here. He didn't seem senile in the least. A tad uninformed and insulting to the president - but hey, that was the whole of the convention! I did watch about half of it. The lies and obsfucations were legion. What was unfortunate is that the crowd just seemed to be cheering him because he's on iconic figure, they didn't seem to be listening. I think he's probably an old-style Rpublican and just doesn't fit into the party any longer. There was, once upon a time, Republicans who were actual conservatives and who sought to do good in the world. Sadly, they don't seem to exist anymore. Clint Eastwood reminded us of what used to be. He seems to want solutions (from a curious place, for sure!). And his seeming lack of footing may be exactly because he's not really one of these noobs.

That said, I never much esteemed any of his movies, except some of the more recent offerings. And for my money, he didn't really make such a great case for Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan since he had no "there" there in his speech, ha!

He does seem like a major league curmudgeon though! Can't say as I think he's that important a person for me personally, although lots of people have enjoyed his movies/director ial pursuits. But hey, 5 marriages make him fit in with Republicans to a degree!
+35 # bigkahuna671 2012-08-31 15:55
Juliajayne, I agree with some of what you wrote, so I couldn't disapprove of you completely. Like you, I tried to view the video with an open mind, but once I got into it, I could see he was just like the rest of the Tea Party phonies. He's not really an old-line Republican. I voted for Tom Kuchel of Cal. Barry Goldwater of Az, and John McCain when he was a true rebel with a cause...those were the real old-line Republicans. They worked across the aisle to make things better for all Americans. Today's Republifascists , including the new McCain, are too concerned with lining the pockets of themselves and their friends and not with solving the problems of all Americans. Eastwood is a curmudgeon and I agree that his 5 marriages make a a REAL Republican. Moreso, though, his selfishness really makes him a Republican!!
+36 # juliajayne 2012-08-31 16:32
The speech McCain made was just dangerous, eh Kahuna? Wowser!

As for Clint, Id be interested in knowing if he's a recent convert to getting out of Afghanistan? I've wanted that myself for a long while. But I see that some in the tea party are (belatedly) excoriating Obama for NOT getting out. OTOH some are excoriating him for the opposite! We'll just say excoriation is the Republicans and Teapublicans appetizer, main course, AND dessert,ha! The president can't catch a break from them no matter what he does.

Eastwoods remarks about Joe Biden upset me most. Now there's a guy with a heart AND brains. He's a really stellar public servant in the true sense of public service. Yeah, he makes gaffes and sometimes wear his heart on his sleeve, but he's no dummy. Lack of critical thinking skills makes Clint a dummy though. Even old style Republicans still weren't very nice, so I'm not sure I can agree that Mr. Man ain't one of them though. I'm enjoying reading about the performance art aspect of his somewhat muddled commentary though. He's definately not senile though it could be said that anyone who votes R suffers from either delusion or dementia! ;-)
+7 # bigkahuna671 2012-09-02 09:21
juliajayne, perhaps you'd better take a step back and read what I wrote, then think again. Just because I split my ticket didn't mean I wasn't a Democrat. Remember the days when the pols actually worked for their constituents? Well, these pols actually did. Kuchel got run out of the GOP because he was too liberal for them, so they tried to elect a more conservative candidate. He proved too conservative, so we California voters kicked him out and replaced him with a Dem. As for Barry and John, Barry did what was best for Arizona, as did John for a while, so voting for them was a wise move considering seniority, etc. However, I haven't voted for John since he went to the dark side and I know that Barry is turning over in his grave because of these pretend conservatives whose only issues are how much $$$$ they can put in the pockets of their friends and the faux issues of pro-life and immigration. I agree with everything you said about the RNC Convention - it's a joke and so are all the people involved, from the gross Christie, the smarmy Mrs. Mitt who tried to paint her hubby as Mr. Perfect, the "teen-age" Rubio whose folks "just made it out of Castro Cuba." Just a bunch of bozos and frauds. When I looked at the crowd who cheered every word the speakers threw out, I was reminded of the people who filled halls in Nazi Germany, cheering everything Hitler said...can anyone say one Fascist resembles another?
+22 # in deo veritas 2012-08-31 16:47
Anyone who believes a word these dredges from the black lagoon have to say is into senility regardless of their chronological age.
+5 # tahoevalleylines 2012-09-01 13:05
Senility? Maybe not, but blind sides from too many years in his Monterey County cocoon, going back decades.

The truth of Inspector 71's limited world outlook was revealed by his comments on railway proposals made at Lake Tahoe and Pacific Grove.

Clint Eastwood is in a legion of megabucks Americans who cannot relate something commonplace as lack of railway connectivity to loss of US status of Lending not Borrowing Nation.

The Tahoe railway proposal included restoration of the San Francisco PCC Streetcar #1169, shown as Harry's ride with the yellow bag in Clint Eastwood's signature movie...

Tahoe still needs a railway connection, and Yosemite too!
+152 # Lindalarsen 2012-08-31 11:16
Well said, Mr. Moore. The little bit that I could stand to actually watch seemed a little surreal and embarrassing to me. I'm trying to separate the talented actor/director from this public display of a slightly pathetic man. I wish I hadn't known this about him.
0 # God Dont Like Ugly 2012-09-03 20:57
There is a very different, quite interesting, point of view penned by Ms. Rene Thompson in RSN's Writing for Godot section. It is well worth the few minutes it takes to read, and certainly worth considering:
+144 # Henry 2012-08-31 11:17
Extremely sad ... for Clint. And extremely CRUEL of the Republicans to allow it to happen.
+36 # in deo veritas 2012-08-31 16:52
CRUEL is the best word to describe the neofascists posing as Republicans They should never geta decent nights sleep for being haunted by the REAL Republicns like Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Ike. Note I didn't include the Glibber (Reagan)
-281 # ClarkMN 2012-08-31 11:25
You know, Michael, stick to criticism of conservatives. Your latest endorsement of Mitt Romney as President Romney made me very angry. Just because you weren't invited to the convention doesn't mean you have to spoil it for everyone.

Now I see why you weren't invited. If people don't grovel at your feet and do everything you want you trash them for not being your "yes" person.
+80 # Merschrod 2012-08-31 13:22
Clark, your note is a weird statement too.

Frankly, Michael and RSN should not have wasted the space on Clint's odd ball entertainment skit for the faithful. Do you notice the fat faced fools as the camera panned the audience?

Not a pretty sight.
+128 # TrueAmericanPatriot 2012-08-31 11:36
Clint, I USED TO RESPECT YOU as an actor and an American, but NO LONGER!! YOU are a LIVING EXAMPLE of the saying, "THERE'S NO FOOL LIKE AN OLD FOOL!" What a pity; your twilight years are less stellar. What a MISERABLE FOOL you made of yourself. So, tell me mister commedian, WHY DIDN'T YOU LET GO OF GWB WHEN HE BEGAN FLUSHING THE NATION DOWN THE TOILET? Where were you BACK THEN? Out of touch idiot!!!!
+15 # jtatu 2012-08-31 12:28
Can you SHOUT a little louder please.
+25 # BlueReview 2012-08-31 15:59
Quoting jtatu:
Can you SHOUT a little louder please.

+1 # Billy Bob 2012-09-03 20:01
Can you stop lecturing about "SHOUTING" and rely on some substance please? As BlueReview said, we can't use italics either.

This is the internet. We all have to do what we have to do to get noticed and make our point. Your strategy seems to be to change the subject.
+2 # Billy Bob 2012-09-03 20:03
By the way, if it bothers you, don't read it. That's what I do if there's too much. I don't mind someone showing me what their emphasis is, however. I don't have time to read literally every single post to every single article.

Like I said, DON'T READ IT. Otherwise, don't lecture us about writing until you correct your punctuation.
+31 # ecoforestree 2012-08-31 11:43
Shows how much you have been paying attention. While you were sleeping:

A Look at Clint's Life in the Political Arena; 1986-88

Being sworn into office in 1986

On April 8th, 1986, with twice the voter turn out showing up, Clint got a whopping 72.5 % of the vote. To show that there was no hard feelings, a week later at his inaugural ceremony, he gave Townsend and two of her close allies some potted redwood seedlings as reconciliatory gifts.

For his two year term in office, Clint fulfilled to his own satisfaction, all his major campaign promises. Among them, he made it easier to build or to renovate property. He got a tourist parking lot constructed. He remodeled The Mission Ranch and preserved the precious landscape it was on which was supposed to be demolished in favor of 80 condominiums. He also opened the library annex which is dedicated for children's use, and it is said to be the accomplishment of which he is most proud.

Though he enjoyed his experience, he opted not to run for a second term.
+57 # Skanner 2012-08-31 13:04
That was 1986 -- Mr.Eastwood was in his 50's. the prime of his life. This is now - he is a doddering old man, and it shows.

In the election you speak of, Clint was elected mayor of Carmel-by-the-S ea, a small community of artists. Getting 72.5% of the vote doesn't sound unusual; at that time, Eastwood was already a legend, and a familiar figure to Carmel residents.

I'm sure he was a great - or at least, a colorful - mayor for the 2 years he decided to serve. BUT: that was then, this is now. It was cruel for the Republicans to use him in this way. He deserves to be remembered for the things he did in his younger, less senile, years.
+30 # bigkahuna671 2012-08-31 15:49
Yes, but in his younger, less senile, years, he was more liberal...not so much the Dirty Harry as the guy who defended the oppressed poor. Now, he's the guy who oppresses the defenders of the poor.
What a shame! To be honest, his legacy is really made up of movie roles, not one based on accomplishments that benefited mankind or anything. He did good works as mayor of Carmel, but if he went back in time and could stand there and watch the youngish Clint perform as mayor, I'm sure the over-the-hill, senile Clint would vigorously attack his former self as too liberal, too concerned about others, and too concerned about leaving the world a better place.
+15 # Byronator 2012-08-31 23:11
"...his legacy is really made up of movie roles, not one based on accomplishments that benefited mankind or anything." Gee, sounds like Reagan, another senile Republican actor who confused his screen roles with his true self.
+89 # Brooklyn Girl 2012-08-31 13:09
We understand that he did good works while he was mayor, over thirty years ago. He also has positions on gay marriage and other personal liberties that we agree with.

But the crackpot who showed up last night not only exercised poor judgment, he made it clear that the people who decided to turn the microphone over to him can't be trusted to make sound judgments either.
+24 # Onterryo 2012-08-31 13:34
Good commenta and I gave you a positive. It really is too bad he lost his mind since then. I often wondered if firing that 44 Magnum finally shook something loose.
+11 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-31 14:17
He was having some issues with his marriage.
I wondered why after everything settled he didn't run again since he did do a lot of good. I appreciated his later movies that I thought showed the man. Guess I was misled.
+43 # SMoonz 2012-08-31 11:48
I watched Clint's speech and I think most people are missing the point. While most people are talking about the empty chair, the "rambling" and how he is a Republican, there is so much more that people are missing.

Clint was not up there endorsing Romney. If you read between the lines he was criticizing and warning Republicans about Romney. Yes, he did criticize Obama as well.

Let's look back at some of the things he said. Clint referred to Romney as "a stellar business man, 'quote, unquote' a stellar business man." Kinda made me chuckle when he said that.

Later he went on to say that he never trusted attorneys. Obama and Romney are both hold law degrees.

Finally, he finished off warning everyone in the convention not to vote for someone they don't agree with or like simply because he looks like a nice person. Sounds more like he was warning the party not to sell out.

Clint wasn't rambling if you read between the lines.
-28 # Jyl 2012-08-31 12:37
This is the craziest interpretation imaginable, IMO!
+20 # Glen 2012-08-31 13:10
That's the way I saw it also, SMoonz. In fact, the first snip of the speech I saw, I could have sworn the person in the chair was the absent George W. Bush. Guess I'll go back and watch it again.

These conventions certainly do stir things up and create as much yak yak as abortion and circumcision. Snort.
-46 # Glen 2012-08-31 13:13
Also can't believe how mean spirited folks can be over someone like Clint Eastwood. He isn't in charge. He did, however, bring a lot of fun to a lot of people through his movies.

How easy it is for folks to forget the good and stomp on the elderly.
-35 # Glen 2012-08-31 13:40
OK. I watched the entire speech twice. Eastwood is clearly supporting republicans. He mumbled as when "talking" with the absent Obama, but that is not rambling. It is humor. He related his "comments" to Obama in a humorous manner and never skipped a beat. He is slower and his voice as an older man, but this is not rambling or demented, as everyone seems to want to present it.

Being republican does not make him evil. It just means he was there to entertain.

QDP below does mention that conventions at one time were serious, in a manner of speaking, but now it is entertainment as even the talking heads in the media have become. Mika and Joe are the twittering ditto heads as presented in The Hunger Games.

Don't be too hard on Eastwood. He was, and is still an amazing writer/actor/di rector.
+6 # bigkahuna671 2012-09-03 08:30
"Being Republican does not make him evil. It just means he was there to entertain." So I guess Romney, Ryan, Boehner, McConnell, the Koch Bros, Adelson, Trump, et al, are just there to entertain? They intend no evil? Everything they do is to make us feel good? Maybe you should tell that to the people who will lose through collapsing the "donut hole" in Medicaid, or the people who will lose medical coverage when the Affordable Care Act is done away with, or when even more women get kicked to the curb as the GOP Taliban works to get women's rights, minority rights, and voters' rights curtailed. As we used to say in the Marines, get your head out... Obviously, you are a bit defensive because Clint got exposed as another addled Tea-Partier whose arguments make no sense except to other addled Tea-Partiers! As for the "twittering ditto-heads" and "talking heads in the Media," I'm sure you must be talking about O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Savage, Coulter, and Hannity, right?
+10 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-31 14:27
No it is time people like Clint pay attention to how they will be betray him no matter which party now, he did not handle this near as eloquently as he is known to do.

No one can take his movies, his acts of humanitarianism away from him.

He has always seemed to be a straight shooter. However, he has his downsides like everyone else.

If he played the Republicans ... he did not come out swinging. He played the Dems...same comment as above.

Republicans have used a lot of our Heros, I hope Clint comes back at them. He was not the eloquent speaker as normally seen.
-17 # Glen 2012-08-31 14:45
Did you read my post? Eastwood is an older man. Eloquent is in the eye of the listener. Being a straight shooter in movies does not translate into real life.

He is a republican. Who cares? He has no influence.

Nevertheless, it is shameful to portray his speech as being demented and rambling. It was not.
+7 # in deo veritas 2012-08-31 16:59
That's what Repugs do!
+3 # Phlippinout 2012-09-03 10:53
Glen, I am the elderly and I feel fine stomping on him since he got on television and made a fool of himself!
+33 # xflowers 2012-08-31 13:25
Yes, SMoonz, I noticed a few other of those oddities. For example, he criticized Obama for not closing Gitmo as if he, and not the Republicans had opened it; as if he, and not the Republicans had thwarted Obama's efforts to establish a new prison home for Gitmo prisoners in Michigan; and as if Romney if elected would get to work closing the place down. He chided Obama for declaring he would get the troops out of Afghanistan in 2014, quoting Romney's response that if he's going to put a date on it, why not tomorrow, which probably wasn't literally what Romney meant. My take is that Clint Eastwood would like the troops home tomorrow and that Clint Eastwood would like Guantantamo closed today. I think his endorsement of Romney was in fact pretty lukewarm. One can argue that Eastwood has either lost it, as some folks have, or he put Romney and the Republicans on notice for what it will take to keep his support. I will add that he made a point of stating that elected officials are employed by the people to do their bidding at the very time these same elected officials seem to have lost that perspective. Either Eastwood is some crazy guy who doesn't know what he's talking about or he's crazy like a fox.
+18 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-31 14:30
Soif he is for taking troops home today, closing gmo Then how can he sanction Romney who wants to bomb Iran for no reason than kiss up to get votes from the American Jewish People?

Where was that in his rhetoric perhaps we should email him on that one. Cannot play innocent on Wars one is no better than the other.
+10 # xflowers 2012-08-31 16:01
The only way I can understand it is that for many, political party affiliation is so deeply embedded it is hard to give up. The Republican party is made up of a lot of odd fellows who have decided to get along. I don't know how religious conservatives can share the same party as libertarians, but they do, believing that by doing so they can promote their own agendas. The same is true for Dems. Some of us are far more liberal than others of us, but we stick together (usually) because we know the party is our best bet to further what we think is right even if the party sometimes does things we think are wrong. I have heard that Eastwood's leanings are more libertarian, which might explain some of his comments.
-40 # jimattrell 2012-08-31 16:45
I'm not sure where you all might live but 90% of residents here are conservatives and your description of Republican's doesn't line up with where I live. In fact, most seats are not even contested by a Democrat. Our economy is strong and could be better but many are moving here to get away from places like California and Detroit. From where I stand, if you eliminated special interests groups, the super wealthy, lawyers, unions and those who din't pay Federal Taxes from the Democratic Party ...., well, there just wouldn't be much left...
+18 # xflowers 2012-08-31 19:47
I guess what you are saying is that where you live everyone is alike, but that's not representative of the country at large. I'm not sure what you mean by special interest groups, but if you mean people who band together to promote a particular point of view, teachers for example or environmentalis ts, or farmers, or labor, or small business owners, or insurance companies, or students, well, without them, there wouldn't be anyone left in either party. The super wealthy tend to be a relatively small group with outsized influence. Lawyers, well, they're a mixed bag, some representing the poor and down and out but most representing those who have the big bucks to pay them well. Those who pay no federal taxes are on opposite extremes of the income spectrum. On the one side there are those who earn so little in wages that they owe no federal taxes. If offered the choice of a better income and a tax bill, I'm sure they would choose the better income. On the other end are those who earn so much they can hire tax attorneys who help them funnel their money to offshore accounts or establish IRAs to the tune of millions of dollars. In the middle are the rest of us, Republican and Democrat alike. This is the country.
-7 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-31 14:22
I believe he should have held his thoughts to a more rational audience, perhaps not look foolish.

He will be ridiculed for how he looked. He did look tired, he looked older than he should. If he was trying to warn us all, I hope he reiterates himself soon.

I heard what Media allowed on News after RNC. I believe we should be armed against the enemy but turning off the RNC gives better thought to ratings, they do count them. See the creeps have to watch DNC so they can bad mouth us, so they add to numbers. However, a shut off on Speeches by Palin, Bachman, RNC gives Party and the Media a hint. So those who watched, you did us more harm than good. You could have gone to any internet site and seen reruns, not made their Convention matter.

Clint...come back to us.
+11 # in deo veritas 2012-08-31 16:58
Glad to see a post not considering Clint to be senile. Anyone paying attention could see that he was making a point as well as getting laughs. If enough people realize this, the Repugs will rue the day they let him have the stage.
+11 # soularddave 2012-08-31 17:59
Quoting Jyl:
there is so much more that people are missing.

Clint wasn't rambling if you read between the lines.

Listen at 3:26 when he says "whether you're a Democrat or a crook Republican..."

Did I hear that right?
+1 # nemonia 2012-08-31 22:24
I agree. His comments were neutral. Obama has been ineffective, and he is a coward. Mitt/Ryan is a train wreck. A rigid 2 party system (where there is no difference) and a corporate controlled media make this voter dilema.
+1 # soularddave 2012-09-02 21:06
Quoting nemonia:
I agree. His comments were neutral. Obama has been ineffective, and he is a coward.

You've just spent a week listening to that, and maybe fell victim to the relentless soundbites on the media. I DISAGREE, and its because I've paid close attention and cheered most every accomplishment.

Obama has actually been more productive than many of the last several Presidents. Don't let anyone tell you he hasn't, and here's 50 reminders of things that we may have forgotten:

I agree with you that the current 2-party system is failing us - as is the corporate media. Perhaps that's why we're HERE.
+72 # QDP 2012-08-31 11:50
Look, it's pure propaganda of the worst kind, nothing else.

Conventions used to be where platforms are negotiated, agendas are defined and political positions articulated. Hmmmm, no more.

Today we have actors pretending (never do consider why an actors' opinion is solicited, they just mouth off lines, some rather well, and others).... I digress. Honestly, why SHOULD I Listen to Dirty Harry?

why listen to Ann, his wife, "trust me, he's a good man?" -who doesn't show his taxes, does not tell us how he will miraculously reinstate an awful economy, takes credit for lies, and leveraged buyouts of companies with so much debt they had to lay off and then went BK.
Add Fat Christie's "respect me" vibe from the Gov of the most corrupt State in the Union, and their illusory contention is complete. If Mittens foreign travels was a gaffe, this convention certainly showed all of us exactly what to expect: nuthin'
+18 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-31 14:33
Christie want to call the worst person I would want to speak for me. He is a foul mouthed person. He is common white trash if this is what Mormons, Republicans want to represent them how could I take Mittens seriously.
Ryan is a selfish kid who know how to use the stage. TeaParty Clones all from the same shelf, no new ideas, just destroy everything with no idea on how to fix it. Wow that is a real new idea, morons That is why we need leadership...I do not see any in front of me yet
+8 # QDP 2012-09-01 09:29
The prob is obviously not CE, its the GOP stance. Our debt is too high, all spending over the top MUST STOP. Less spending, more taxes, frugality and austerity matched with SBA incentives for production. I see no one telling it as it is. Just the fat cats, the Mormons, the pretenders and the coyotes.
They block, they distort, they outright lie, then obfuscate the issues, all of them, with sweet talk about mom's love and R-E-S-P-E-C-T. What have they actually offered as a concrete alternative?
The problem is Republican approach to bipartisan leadership. IT DOES NOT EXIST.I'm voting every single one OUT OF OFFICE. Enough of this empty chair PRETENSE.
+15 # fredboy 2012-08-31 12:00
The premiere of Mr. Eastwood's latest film, "Trouble With The Curve," was repeatedly interrupted by the actor's murmurs as he tried to explain each scene to a nearby ottoman...
+71 # Buddha 2012-08-31 12:08
I actually thought Clint, in front of a still from The Outlaw Josey Wales, was a perfect image for the entire actor that got famous playing a gunman in the mid 1800's, for a party that wants to drag us BACK to the 1800's...
-165 # jtatu 2012-08-31 12:11
Michael Moore thinks he's in the American mainstream? Now that's delusional. He is also mean and and nasty.
+43 # robniel 2012-08-31 12:52
Funny, Eastwood's five wives say much the same about Harry.
+14 # AMLLLLL 2012-08-31 13:47
His latest wife said that he sent an aide to ask if she would go out with him. He apparently can't take the possible rejection.
+25 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-31 14:37
Sadly that is the only point I had disrespect for Clint. His treatment of women is not unlike Republicans. We have a place and should stay in it, be glad they let us in it.
He rode with 1%ers a long time ago who today still believe that theory. personally they should be ey bring up their children in much the same manner...even with their suits on, their minds are not just or fair.
I saw the abuse of women from many, white men are the worst as they should have been role model. A Man who treats a Woman like dirt is dirt himself. A Man who hits a woman is not a man at all.
+18 # in deo veritas 2012-08-31 17:11
What the Repukes represent is called NIHILISM, which is wht the Nazis stood for-nothing. Stand gainst-everythi ng positive and decent. No solutions tom problems-dust divisiveness and destructiveness ..
+12 # in deo veritas 2012-08-31 17:13
Chuck Norris is about the worst when it comes to women. It was ve evident in one ofh TV interviews. Not Walker Texas Ranger-more like Walker of Wisconsin (capital of the Koch Reich).
+15 # truthrat 2012-08-31 12:15
Interesting stories on Romney's Religion (Mormonism):
0 # dyannne 2012-09-02 19:34
Highly recommend too a film on titled Mormon Candidate, a BBC production for those who aren't real familiar with Mormonism. It's well done and informative.
+59 # Mike Farrace 2012-08-31 12:17
All the right leaning pundits talk about what a great manager Romney is. If that's true, why does he keep mis-managing his campaign?
+27 # Old Man 2012-08-31 14:54
Quoting Mike Farrace:
All the right leaning pundits talk about what a great manager Romney is. If that's true, why does he keep mis-managing his campaign?

And the massive bail-out of Bain & co. to profit you know who, Mitt Romney himself. He scammed the banking industry for about 30 mil or so.
+5 # QDP 2012-09-01 09:26
EXACTLY. What Mittens offers is NO accountability, no real numbers, borrow, indebt, raid then abandon in LBOs, and then state we're in trouble because of others. Mittens is a wimp, a sucker who should have been beaten up on the schoolyard as a dishonest twerp who shirks responsibility and tattletales on his fellows. He never learned his lesson. The one, MORAL one.
+34 # to be 2012-08-31 12:23
Thanks Mr. Moore for saying what I thought. Clint was one cool mofo, and now he's just a nuisance. I'm sorta glad he is a Repubican at this point.
+51 # Love And Only Love 2012-08-31 12:25
Just in: Clint Eastwood was just seen at Tampa International Airport in a heated argument with a luggage cart...
+33 # Jyl 2012-08-31 12:34
I don't think Eastwood's unfortunate display will harm the party's popularity, one iota. Listen to the crowd cheer and whistle, after all. They do not see him as his now unfortunate self, but as a famous, moneyed, popular, beloved, influential celebrity. I perceive that because Eastwood is Eastwood, his appearance has turned out to be one of the Republican's most successful undertakings, so far. I seriously wonder if one must be subnormal intellectually, to belong to that party.
+23 # Helen 2012-08-31 15:57
Seeing the reaction of the people in that audience only confirms my opinion of Republicans in general. Why face reality when it is so much easier to believe what you want to believe and laugh off everything else?
+24 # Okieangels 2012-08-31 12:40
What made my day was Marco Rubio stating that the republicans were choosing more government over freedom. He's now my favorite republican!
+46 # James Smith 2012-08-31 12:41
"Lawyers have to look at both sides of an issue?" What's wrong with that? Most politicians could benefit from that. Today, all Republicans can see is, Obama=Wrong. Never mind that he's done better at keeping his promises that the entire Republican party, Check out

Perhaps if the Republicans focused more on getting something done instead of obstructing everything they can, they might have a better record?
+32 # brux 2012-08-31 12:45
I love Clint Eastwood for acting in and directing some of my favorite movies, including:

"Paint Your Wagon"
"The Unforgiven"
"Heartbreak Ridge"
"White Hunter, Black Heart"

but last tonight, Thursday, August 30, 2012, it's R.I.P. to Mr. Eastwood - I have lost all that store of respect for him. Tonight Clint Eastwood stuttered through a speech at the Republican National Convention, starting out with saying the nature of conservatives is not to be "hot-doggin' it" ... and then using John Voight as an example of that. Maybe it was supposed to be a comedy routine, but I think Clint Eastwood definitively proved that one has to be senile these days to be a Republican. I have not been so embarrassed for the Republicans since their elder abuse of wheeling old Nancy Reagan out to shore up George W. Bush's image.

I'll miss Clint Eastwood, but always appreciate his entertaining and sometimes classic movie characters and stories brought to life by him. Thanks Clint, farewell you high plains drifter you.
+30 # dick 2012-08-31 12:52
Really sad. After Million Dollar Baby & Gran Torino, both anathemas to GOPers. Does Alzheimer's involve regression to an adolescent, even infantile, self? Heartbreaking. Not the man on the Ridge. Not the man who loved his black friend like a brother in Unforgiven. Did they get him out of a care facility? Shame on them.
+7 # Nominae 2012-08-31 14:50

Do you "get" that these movie characters are *fictional*? We say that actors *play* their parts for a reason.

Eastwood the actor might be *playing* Gandhi, but that (bizarre casting) would not make Eastwood the *man* into Gandhi.

Sadly, many people commenting in this string seem to think that they "know" Eastwood the *man*, by referring to the fictional characters he has portrayed in *movies*.

Note likewise that movies are *entertainment* . Movies are not straight up historical accounts of *anything*.

Efforts at filming actual historical accounts are called "documentaries" , and they make very little money.

Movies, similar to this Repub Convention, are fully scripted "feel-good" fantasies - conceived, written and designed to please people with whatever fluff and fantasy it takes to make money.

Just a quick reality check.
+15 # overanddone 2012-08-31 12:57
Another uninformed GOP flack, a lawyer shouldn't be president. Mitt da Shit is A Lawyer. A stellar business man andhttp://www.r /politics/news/ the-federal-bai lout-that-saved -mitt-romney-20 120829. think again
Showing zero respect for the President the Man, or the Presidency the office shameful; but par for the course of totally unpatriotic republicans, it seems as though the GOP can't help but display their ignorance at even the most staged and scripted situations.
Feeling lucky Mr. Eastwood show up at my door with or without a Camera, Make My Day.
+14 # dick 2012-08-31 12:59
Outlaw Josey Wales was Quantrill Raider, terrorist fighting to preserve slavery. Book was by Confederacy lover (General) "Forrest" Carter. Vile racist, who accepted Native Americans as honorary whites. Eastwood seems torn, to say the least.
+18 # America 2012-08-31 13:00
Not sure what the uproar is all about Clint is still a great actor and film producer. Indeed what he did was pretty stupid!

He is just pretty lousy on stage at a National Convention. Somehow he seems to represent the ramblings of these inept Republicans including New Jersey's Christie who is keynote speaker. He is gov in my home state where the unemployment is 10%. What a joke. Christie is beloved by the GOP. Christie is a joke in NJ an overwieght guy with a big mounth bully with no experience at all.
+13 # brux 2012-08-31 13:36
In my unreasonable fantasy world view of things Clint Eastwood should not be making partisan political appearances at all, least of all in support of these radical wacko Republicans - and buying into their world-view of whatever you can lie enough times about becomes truth???

Not only that, but as I have stated to many negative ratings, celebrities do not necessarily believe the things they act or write or direct in their movies ... they do those things to sell product to us.
+35 # wipster 2012-08-31 13:01
Eastwood's "performance" last night left me shaking my head and feeling very sad for Clint as he struggled for words in trying to make his points. I'm pretty sure that anyone who watched felt the same... I truly was embarrassed for the man. While I've enjoyed many if not most of the films he's either starred in and/or directed, it became painfully obvious that senility is creeping up to this 82 year old actor. And while it's one thing to give a rambling, incoherent speech to a national convention intended to select a presidential candidate, it is quite another to show such disrespect to our current commander-in-ch ief. Regardless of your opinion of President Obama, he does not deserve the nasty rhetoric that many Republicans has thrown at him since he was elected and I definitely expected more from Eastwood... that performance was beneath him and any respect I may have had for Clint has now been replaced with sorrow at what he has become, now obvious to the entire nation.
+18 # Jorge 2012-08-31 14:07
Yes it was a sad performance. But if it is true that people become more conservative (and less willing to pay their fair taxes) as they age then you could understand Eastwood's comments. Being filthy rich and making many violent movies and living in the bubble of Carmel and Hollywood can isolate one from fellow Americans who are struggling (thus you would go for Willard and Eddie Munster).
+10 # in deo veritas 2012-08-31 17:23
Thank you! I couldn't think who Ryan reminded me of.
-3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-31 14:47
We all expect these men and women to be perfect and bitch when we have to face the reality they are not.
I believe if Bush W was not so over used he might have been able to do things to help people. But he was not in charge so he went stupid, made an ass of those who voted for him and the Party.
OB was told by Republican that no matter what he did they would go the Opposite Way. That should read a Story to All of Us. But here we are, trying to decipher if Clint was using his sense of Humour or if he was over the edge.

Whatever seems we certainly do not have much leadership out there. I see no Banner leading me to a Good Place. I see Democrats lamer than ever. I see the Evil that the Preachers spoke of amongst their own.

Not a very good picture...guess we got to get ourselves together before the aholes put the world asunder
+13 # in deo veritas 2012-08-31 17:22
At l;east what he said was not scripted and dictated by the fascist twirps orchestrating the convention. It was like a sick sad rerun of the Nuremberg rallies of the 1930's.
+20 # Smokey 2012-08-31 13:02
The entire Republican convention was weird.... Really weird.... Although God may have had a big laugh - or was it a moment for crying? - when the threat of Hurricane Isaac forced the Republicans to change their convention schedule.... And, of course, the Republicans had to make schedule changes during their 2008 convention because of the hurricane menace.... It's time to pay attention, Republicans.
+23 # angelfish 2012-08-31 13:03
Right again, Mike! The ReTHUGlicans have been rebranding themselves since Reagan's Administration however, THIS bunch of Psychophants have been in Wonderland far too long! Allowing that poor, senile old man to get up and embarrass himself that way is unforgiveable! So much for how much they care about Grandpa. Most of the drivel they spewed was cheer-leading for THEMSELVES with a few bones thrown to Mitt to justify the Convention. I hope anyone who watched the entire debacle, aside from the died in the wool fanatics, will be convinced that the only sane and reasonable choice is President Obama with a goodly amount of Sane Democrats to replace the DINOs and Blue Dogs! Please, Everyone, REGISTER, help Friends, Family and Acquaintances to do the same, get appropriate I.D. and Vote on Election Day and, oh yes, never, EVER Vote ReTHUGlican!
+14 # richardbelldc 2012-08-31 13:04
Not that Republicans are ever very long on irony, but could the empty chair routine have been a more compelling metaphor for how Republicans view "The Invisible Man," as Ralph Ellison put it?
+62 # Rich Austin 2012-08-31 13:14
Egad! Michael Moore? The guy who wants everyone to have health care, a decent job, security in retirement, adequate housing, enough food, and access to public education?

How un-American free market corporatism is that? Next thing you know he’ll be criticizing the Wall Street slicksters and their banking buddies who sold us down the river.

When I was growing up my dad had a decent job, because one was available. We had affordable health care. We ate nutritious food, slept in a comfortable home, and went to the same public schools that produced engineers and scientists who put a man on the moon and conquered polio. When my parents retired they lived on his pension and Social Security, and they both had Medicare. They lived live frugally, but were secure. Social Security and Medicare, and an employer-provid ed pension made that so. Oh, and did I mention he was a union member? So where thirty-three percent of all the other workers in America. That was at a time when wages and productivity rose in tandem.

Don’t let Romney or Ryan or some privileged actor or Republican Party operatives tell you the answer is shared sacrifice. When is the last time any of them went without anything they desired?

Michael Moore is aligned with America’s working class. Republicans represent the elite.

Take your pick, but please know you have a better chance of winning Mega-millions than you do of being invited into the class of 1%.
+11 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-31 14:51
Republicans do not share. I do not care if they are the DC crowd or the local ones.
They are for themselves, they break the rules, they do not know how to do anything for themselves.

But remember the Princess loves you women
-76 # vortex1155 2012-08-31 13:22
Clint Eastwood was Awesome! He was funny, entertaining, got the most laughs, applause and ovations. Had the best line of them all. "Politicians work for us. When they don't do a good job, you have to let them go"! He was brilliant and knew exactly what he was doing. The people down on him are the ones that can't stomach that fact that his politics are very conservative and he was a mayor at one time before and he ran that city outstandingly. The left is struggling to find something wrong with the RNC as the entire 3 days was really uplifting and gave more hope for our future than ever. I loved his unconventional way about him and everything he said was TRUE!
+19 # brux 2012-08-31 13:41
Clint was never a radical wacko revolutionary Republican and for him to come on and be used as the tool of Romney and Ryan ... well, uplifting is not the world I would use, unless you are talking about uplifting the contents of my stomach.

The other Hollywood Republican we all have familiarity with was Arnold, who did a supremely incompetent job as governor of Cah-leefonee-uh.

Reagan was another one who was used and did not even know what he was doing when they shuffled him into the Oval Office ... but at least he had sense enough to know not to destroy to the economy with debt, as did Bush 1.
+23 # pernsey 2012-08-31 14:19
Vortex, I assure you the left doesnt have to struggle to find things wrong with the RNC there are so many, that its pathetic. Just to name 2 Ryans speech was fact free, and this Eastwood speech was plain creepy. I could list a lot more of the lies that were stated at the convention, but I would probably run out of symbols before I was done.
-30 # jimattrell 2012-08-31 14:44
10-4 from another proud conservative American!
+10 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-31 14:56
A two year term in an area of the rich. Wow if you skrewed that up....
He never ran again because Perhaps he didn't want something to tarnish his record. Too bad he didn't think before he rose to this occasion.

There are articles an pictures of some of his tarnished days. Couple black eyes to woman, didn't respect him for those attitudes. If that is what makes him today, his feeling about women's place Than maybe he deserves what he gets for his undignified speech last night. Remember everyone is a critic.
+24 # James Smith 2012-08-31 16:00
Do you consider the idea that Ryan told more lies than could be counted without carefully reviewing an unedited tape? Or do you automatically believe anything said there because it's far easier than thinking?

If these morons are elected, I will renounce my American citizenship. The country is nearly lost now. They will drive the final nails into the coffin. They will finish the work that Bush started. But the Constitution is "just a goddamned piece of paper." isn't it?
-41 # jtatu 2012-08-31 16:29
Sounds like America will be a whole lot better off without you.
Bye bye.
+1 # dyannne 2012-09-02 19:45
He also said, "We own this country." And that's from a 1 percenter to his fellow 1 percenters. I was not impressed.
+14 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2012-08-31 13:29
I loved watching Clint's movies since I can remember.I will no longer watch his movies. He was, to my generation, the modern day Lone Ranger who now has a message that seems to stink too much
+12 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-31 15:03
I will not dignify watching him at this time. I would have hoped he went there with his guns ablaze at the Republicans and their treatment of America and Americans.
Instead he went there like the 1% of his biking days, who puts us, the viewers on the same level as women. We have a place and we should know it.

If he was being sarcastic, sardonic, or sadistic, I am not impressed. I was not impressed by any of the speakers. It went from bad I guess to worse. The most insulting was the She Person who loves us Women. I am still nauseous from that. At least none of the other pres elect wives ever stooped that low.
That was more like some need for us to by products line.

Whatever. I do not watch Conventions, they are more Car Shows Everyone has a plan, until it is finally time to show up and put it in order.

I wish we could get to all women, because this woman would be the first to strike the match at the witch hunt.

Clint relax, take some time then I hope you revisit your speech. You actually were down to Christie's level
+4 # namewon 2012-08-31 13:38
C'mon, people, don't take your politics so seriously! Clint was the only entertaining part of that orgy of patriotic slop that dominated our news all damn week! He stole the show, in my opinion, and neutralized the not-so-artful dodging that followed later with Romney's too-carefully-c rafted platter of delusional Americana. Of all the speakers all week, Clint gets my nomination for One True Republican. He actually admitted Democrats are valid Americans, too!
-3 # Glen 2012-09-01 09:21
Good for you, namewon. I agree. This whole deal is incredibly stupid. Admittedly I jumped in on it, but that was an attempt to get folks to see they are jumping on the wrong guy. Amazing how much vitriol, if not hate, is out there on both sides. I don't support either party, but damn if I'll promote such nastiness against such as Clint Eastwood.
+26 # Bob P 2012-08-31 13:40
Whhen he said "We own this country" I thought he was speaking for the 1%.
+13 # pernsey 2012-08-31 17:21
Quoting Bob P:
Whhen he said "We own this country" I thought he was speaking for the 1%.

He probably was!
+29 # Midwestgeezer 2012-08-31 13:52
I have this picture of an empty suit on a generic mannekin, onstage with a moderately talented ventriliquist asking questions on which Mitt has given contradictory answers. Oh,never mind, Mitt has already done that...
As for Clint Eastwood, I never cared for the mythical tough guy he played way too many times. Like John Wayne, he created a myth of the self-reliant tough guy that too may of our chicken-hawk politicians have, unfortunately, emulated with the loss of too many innocent lives.
+28 # carpepax 2012-08-31 13:57
Ah, Clint Eastwood. The Man, the Myth, the Marionette. I wonder if the GOP paid you enough to make up for the loss of credibility and relevance.
+7 # mikes1060 2012-08-31 14:24
When our folks get old, we have to take away their car keys to keep them and the public safe. I'm embarassed for Eastwood's kids and "people" that they let him do it without notes or a teleprompter. The Repugs got what they deserved with his performance. I don't like his politics, but he had a great film career.
-36 # jimattrell 2012-08-31 14:42
He was so much fun to watch .... And everyone, if they are honest with themselves, could relate with what he said so please .... let's discuss unemployment and White House Corruption and focus like a laser (as Bill Clinton said) on the economy!
+15 # tommyjoe 2012-08-31 14:44
poor clint. he used to be cool. now he's...well...a bit senile.
and what about that fat guy from new jersey in the blue suit and the double chin?
is obama really in trouble here?
+23 # walt 2012-08-31 14:46
Clint Eastwood shamed himself and added to the already accumulated shame of the Republican Party last night.

Eastwood spoke with total disrespect about our president who was duly elected by a majority of Americans. In so doing, he also showed a total disrespect to all Americans and made a mockery out of free speech.

He was right at home, however, among a Republican party that has spent four years disparaging and obstructing the administration while doing nothing to support efforts to help the country.

In good conscience, it is difficult to see how anyone could vote Republican with this current party of hate-filled, bigoted, and obstructionist people. Vote them all out.
+22 # Nanders 2012-08-31 14:51
Though I've never been a major fan of Eastwood, I was embarrassed for him and think that whoever arranged this travesty should be publicly shamed. With this example of how the GOP "honors" old folks, I'm voting Democratic.
+17 # janie1893 2012-08-31 14:52
The biggest problem for Mr. Eastwood is that he has begun to believe in his own myth.
+4 # QDP 2012-09-01 09:22
"a man's got to know his own limitations.... "
+11 # tommyjoe 2012-08-31 14:59
it's true. clint had a good idea with the invisible obama chair thing. something different. it stood out from the regurgitated mess that the rest of the sorry riffraf had to dish out. excuse the sidestep, but did you see blue suit pig face deliver? getting back to clint, the problem was not the idea, it was the delivery, and of course, the message. how much was he paid by the GOP? clint eastwood was a legend in his time. i would say that he just threw off 50% of his fans.
did that make your day, clint?
+9 # MindDoc 2012-08-31 15:02
Most bizarre speech of the century? Actually, I think not. That distinction belongs to Ryan (maybe Bachmann) , & the big lies of the W dynasty which launched global war and economic disaster (i.e., "they have weapons of mass destruction".

I've long known that despite his gritty, renowned, 'can-do' personality, Eastwood is a super-conservat ive, and super-wealthy landowner, who surely would feel right at home with the Koch bros, or Ryan, or Mitt Money...
I've accepted that Clint is the way he is, both acting persona (tough guy, individualist) and in his personal politics.

What puzzles me, after viewing the clips 3x, and seeing all the cheering and admiration - why the tsunami of criticism, and mostly by 'the left'? I saw people "get" his allusions to the sound-bytes of the attack ads use (quoting Biden, or mocking Obama in with his empty-chair language). Clearly he endorsed the 'sterling businessman' (while getting a cheer for deriding lawyers), and clearly he rallied the GOP troops. Yet so many others are shaking their head and pronouncing him "senile" or counter-product ive - ironically, for being 'off-script'! This was the only part - with TV on in the background - that caught and sustained my attention. I was grateful he didn't use the time, as others all were doing, just to sell big lies. He entertained, and fit right in with the vibe. What totally amazes me is that the reaction is on him (Cint), and not the Ryan/Romney lies.
+8 # Mike Farrace 2012-08-31 15:22
I agree with you on this point. He might have rambled a bit, but he was doing it off the cuff and he got some good laughs from the homies. I don't think he sounded senile, out of it or anything close (though it seems like someone would have fixed his hair before letting him go out there). And I think he might have been motivated to settle the score with the fallout after our team spun his superbowl ad and I think he accomplished that.

Still, the sin was Romney's for rolling the dice with an unscripted insertion in precious prime time, hardly a recommendation for such a highly-touted supposed executive smart guy.
+21 # trevorlasvegas 2012-08-31 15:13
He's a Newt Gingrich Republican: seven children by five women and he only married two of them.
+9 # Rizerd 2012-08-31 15:14
What I found interesting about 'Weird Clint"
at the RNC show, was that an ad for his new film flashed before my eyes soon after his 'speech'. This spectacle and denouncement of Obama is sure to boost his movie at the box office. Smart Republican at work! Businessman " Weird Clint" Tired hero fallen star.
+12 # pernsey 2012-08-31 17:23
Quoting Rizerd:
What I found interesting about 'Weird Clint"
at the RNC show, was that an ad for his new film flashed before my eyes soon after his 'speech'. This spectacle and denouncement of Obama is sure to boost his movie at the box office. Smart Republican at work! Businessman " Weird Clint" Tired hero fallen star.

I wont pay to see anything hes in.
+21 # giraffee2012 2012-08-31 15:16
Eastwood gave me the same impression of a "platform" by a Repug as did Paul Ryan the nite before (albeit I couldn't watch more than a few minutes of each) - one is a luney as the other.

It wasn't Eastwood's age that caused babbling to spew from his mouth anymore than it was Ryan's babbling - cuz they ain't got anything to say that makes sense or is honest.

They hide behind stupid lies -trying to "look" good and trying to convince the FAUX viewers they will fix the USA ---

Oh they'll fix us alright -- fix us so we all (but the 1%) live like paupers and die as quickly as possible with little to no medical attention.

I suppose they will eventually take away innoculations that prevent polio etc to save money

+13 # jazzman633 2012-08-31 15:38
As a professional speechwriter, I think that yes, it was rambling and demented. It's the fault of the organizers. He should have been submitted to the same vetting and scripting as everybody else.

Never thought much of his acting -- almost the same character every time. Still, that character, with Clint's libertarian leanings, would have made a fine Prez. I cringe to see what he has become. But from a PR standpoint, this never should hgave happened.
+1 # dyannne 2012-09-02 19:56
I think Mitt and Company were so thrilled, dazzled really, that someone as stellar out of *Hollywood* as Clint "Make My Day" Eastwood would want to speak at their convention that they just let him go on unvetted. He was supposed to have 3-5 minutes I heard and they probably thought he would say some real smart things about guns and stuff they love- after all he's a MOVIE STAR and director legend! And a Republican! They don't have many Hollywood biggies on their side. Stars were in their eyes. Such rubes. Got what they deserved.
-4 # Salus Populi 2012-08-31 16:30
Eastwood has always been a complex character. I was mercifully spared the performance at the RNC, as I didn't have the stomach to watch any of it. But trashing him and his movie oeuvre because of his right wing politics has a faint stench of the commissar. His right wing politics have been part of him for a very long time; in 1981, when the Big Lie about the "POW/MIAs" was gaining traction, he was involved as bankroll and contact with a particularly slimy mercenary ex-general who staged a "raid" into VietNam to free the supposed prisoners, of whom there were none. (This later became the basis of the scripts for a couple of Chuck Norris and Sylvester Stallone films.)

Contrary to the fictions disbursed by the totalitarian Reicht that Hollywood is some kind of Bolshevik bunker, many of the more famous and powerful actors and icons are way over in fascist land in their personal politics. The only reason for the myth of dominant leftism there is that in more recent years, there have been a few well-spoken, prominent and principled leftists as well. To the totalitarian mindset, the existence of even one independent voice is an intolerable affront, and will cause them to scream that they are being systematically excluded from the media that they overwhelmingly dominate.

Anyway, I still have a great deal of respect for Eastwood's art, and real art has never accepted confinement to either political correctness or social acceptance.
+10 # Billy Bob 2012-08-31 22:34
I like what you said about the right just being offended by the very existence of a left. I agree.

I've had many many connections with creative people. From my experience it is pretty obvious that more creative people (this includes scientists and mathemeticians as well, by the way), really are overwhelmingly liberal. The best explanation for that I've heard is that liberalism takes the ability to IMAGINE what it would be like to walk in someone else's shoes. That's the only way to empathy. Someone without a creative or imaginitive bone in their body will be incapable of seeing anything that doesn't affect him directly. He'll have no empathy, and will only agree with liberals, when HE'S one of the beneificiaries of liberal philosophy.

+10 # Billy Bob 2012-08-31 22:35

Even Dead-Eye Dick cheney is liberal about gay rights. REASON: HIS DAUGHTER IS GAY.

Even george bush jr. is sort-of liberal about immigration. REASON: HE'S OWNED A FEW IMMIGRANTS.

Even rush limpo and glenn (cry-me-a-river ) beck are now a bit more open-minded about the affectiveness of drug rehabilitation. REASON: THEY'RE BOTH DRUG ADDICTS.

Female conservatives tend to be somewhat more liberal about things like equal pay, etc.

Being liberal about a whole slew of issues that don't necessarily impact you directly requires the ability to think about someone other than yourself. This requires an imagination. People who inherited billions of dollars never needed one. For people in the arts and sciences it's a prerequisite.
+5 # pernsey 2012-09-02 06:55
Thank you Billy Bob I believe you are right!
+3 # dyannne 2012-09-02 19:59
Love what you said, Billy Bob! Right on the nail's head.
+17 # JJS 2012-08-31 16:34
The only President and Vice-President I remember speaking like Clint imagines is when V.P. Dick Cheney told Sen. Patrick Leahy to "Go f''k yourself."

And here's a nice image of 'Shrub' giving the one finger salute

I hope the Democratic Party reminds the public of this at their convention.
+2 # bmiluski 2012-09-04 09:29
No, I think the democrates will take the high-road. The repubs showed the world what small mean little people they truly are. It was like watching a frat party with the little sorority girls looking on.
-2 # JJS 2012-08-31 17:01
I think Clint has starred in and directed some very entertaining films. Bravo! But, I also liked Charleton Heston's work, too. Go figure.
-6 # FLAK88 2012-08-31 18:09
Yeah, me too. Disconcerting, isn't it ?
+6 # Billy Bob 2012-08-31 22:19
Really it says a lot more about you and JJS than it does about the actors. A conservative would never dream of saying anything nice (even begrudgingly) about a liberal. You're liberals. Your minds are more capable of thinking two things at the same time and recognizing shadings of truth.

I hate running. Running keeps me in shape. I run even though I hate it.

The conservative version of that would be, either I run because I like it, or I hate running and, therefore it's evil and only losers engage in it.

There are really only two conservatives that bother me: Alice Cooper (I just don't get how he could betray me and be conservative. He seems so decent), and Orville Redenbocker (He's dead, but that really is some good popcorn).

Maybe one of the reasons I like Mr. Popcorn, and Alice Cooper is that I've only heard they're conservative. I've never actually heard either one of them discuss it. If they sounded like ann coulter fans, I'd have no problem hating them...

But I'd still like the popcorn, and maybe continue liking some of Cooper's music.
+1 # JJS 2012-09-01 08:36
Thanks for the response Billy Bob.
I only hope that when you label me a liberal it is in the classical sense of Liberalism and not the perverted, twisted, demonized sense that Newt Gingrich has framed the term "Lib-rawl".

I do think that conservatives can hold two ideas in their minds at the same time, like Robert Redford was a good looking, capable actor or that Barbra Streisand had a beautiful voice even though they are outspoken "liberal" Democrats. What many conservatives cannot accept is that there might be a middle ground, shades of gray as you say. Or even a better way. Many do not see that it might be best to move quickly to change the prevailing societal and institutional structures. For example, in the US, civil rights took 100 years from the emancipation of slaves to the Civil Rights act.And there is still more progress that neeeds to be made.

Newt came up with the term "Radical Conservative" as someone who wants to take away every change made to progress beyond whatever point in time he felt was "the good old days". Most radical conservatives want to go back to the 1950's era but some, like the T-Partiers, want to go back to 1770-80's.

I'm willing to give real conseratives a place at the table to give perspective and slow radical change that would upset the status quo too abruptly and create instability. But conservatism should not get in the way or completely block needed, essential liberal progress.
+2 # QDP 2012-09-01 09:22
Well, BB, I'm not a Lib either. I hate big Gov. I hate ballooning entitlement picture.I hate fat cat behind the doors financial favoritism. And I used to be a fanatical Repub!!! Problem is, all the other zealotry fanatical conservative Right dishes up, fingers in every woman's womb, less taxes on the rich, more big Defense, Wars, and most of all the BS truth distortion. All of this in the Economy came about because of a disparagingly inept policy of a stupid Texan named GWB. Without his tenure, we would NOT BE HERE.
0 # JJS 2012-09-01 10:15
It is refreshing to hear that you are a conservative (I assume) who sees the hipocracy and inaccuracies of the current and historic Republican message.

As much as GWB let the economy go into a ditch among other things, he was not the first Republican to do so. GWB was put into place by a think tank called Project for the New American Century started in 1997. PNAC was created to continue the "good ol' Reagan years".
Those Reagan era policies of BIG Government, unfettered defense spending, increasing taxes on middle class wage earners (SS) and lowering tax rates on capital gains, and restricting women's right to reproductive health care.

GWB was probably not PNAC's first choice but he would do as long as the fascist (corporatist) wing of the Republican party could work their policies into place.

I encourage you to look at the economic data and numbers over history to include the Reagan years and prior to get a fuller picture of how we got here.
+2 # dyannne 2012-09-02 20:04
Many of the people advising R-Money are PNACers.
-8 # hammermann 2012-08-31 17:46
I was sick when I heard he was talking here, cause he did the pro-Detroit ad that I took as pro-Obama + he supposedly thought Bush was a moron. But Clint was being mildly humorous- channeling (to you oldsters) Bob Newhart, who did those kind of skits with a phone or imaginary interlocutor- older, slower, but not senile.

Also I think you shouldn't write him off- I also thought he got clever digs in AT the Mittwit- a "stellar businessman". You really think that wasn't tongue in cheek? Give Clint a break- he made some great movies- couldn't resist a chance to be on the national stage one last time and I think tweaked Romney more than Obama. "Tell him to fuk himself". That ain't derisive of Obama, but the NitMitt. I got that maybe the American people should tell Willard that.
+11 # FLAK88 2012-08-31 18:08
All this guy cares about is how little income tax he has to pay. He knows that he'll get the sweetest deal from the GOP. I wish all Americans would just wake up and see this for what it really is.
+1 # bmiluski 2012-09-04 09:31
The republicans new slogan is "Are you better of today then you were 4 years ago?" Has anyone thought to ask mitt that questions because he should answer with a resounding OH YEAH BABY!!!
+20 # tedrey 2012-08-31 18:35
The most chilling moment for me was when Eastwood said "We OWN this country," and the whole audience surged to their feet with a roar of approval. Did you see their faces? Now THAT was Republican!
+14 # JT00 2012-08-31 19:23
You're right, that was almost shocking. To address an audience of rich white people, and say we OWN the country and politicians are our employees?!? What happened to the principle of democracy? What about people without the wealth? Then to get a standing ovation for that! A little too honest, not even bothering to hide it anymore.
+8 # wrknight 2012-09-01 09:16
---and the politicians are our employees and the rest of the 99% are our slaves. (He forgot to mention that.)
0 # dyannne 2012-09-02 20:06
...but that was the implication and I see you got it! :-) As did I.
+9 # rockieball 2012-08-31 19:01
He said politicians are employees of ours. Well that's not the way the Corporate owned Republican Party acts or is. They are employees of the rich, of the Corporations and the millions that these people give to have their puppets elected.
Clint stick to directing and acting in movies.
+9 # JT00 2012-08-31 19:44
I think that was the point of what he was saying. By "ours" he didn't mean you and me watching this. He meant the rich white people in the room he was addressing. Own meant exactly that, they own the wealth, the real estate, the companies who employ the US population, the stock and bonds. His argument was the people who own the country should control the country. More honest than what we're used to. That's why the standing ovation.
+3 # Salus Populi 2012-09-01 00:54
The sentiment that the rich and their instruments should be in charge of everything is hardly of recent origin. John Jay, one of the founding coupsters and the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, put it quite succinctly: "The people who own the country ought to govern it." (At the time, only free adult male non-Indian property owners were allowed to vote.)
+1 # jerryball 2012-08-31 19:18
Clint, better a lawyer as president as an Actor as president. Why is it when guys become old farts, they lose their vitality, their sensibilities, their empathy, and sink to being a Conservative. Just like the first Pope who wanted to screw around before he declared celebacy. "I had my fun, now no soup for YOU!" But there is an opening to replace Moses Charleton Heston the NRA Oldest Profession Candidate. Better get a face lift first.
+11 # Machista1 2012-08-31 19:21
Mr. Eastwood forgot to mention during his extended dialogue that Mitt Romney also supports extending the war in Afghanistan. Romney and Ryan's platform regarding the debt is a contradiction considering how Bain Capital piled on massive debt for Kay-Bee Toy Stores and Ryan voted for the Wall Street bailout.
+5 # 2012-08-31 22:46
Eastwood is close friends with Ron Paul, and after watching Eastwood's "performance", I am increasingly convinced that this was far more act than reality.

Eastwood stole Romney's thunder, made the Republicans look even more like clowns than they had before, and completely derailed the narrative that the Republicans had been trying to build. I really think this was far more a shout out to Ron Paul than anything else, and it may very well have served to completely seal Romney's fate.
+3 # QDP 2012-09-01 09:17
Kurt, intentional? I think not. The prob is obviously not CE, its the GOP stance. They block, they distort, they outright lie, then obfuscate the issues, all of them, with sweet talk about mom's love and R-E-S-P-E-C-T. What have they actually offered as a concrete alternative?
The problem is Republican approach to bipartisan leadership. IT DOES NOT EXIST.I'm voting every single one OUT OF OFFICE. Enough of this empty chair PRETENSE.
+8 # Billy Bob 2012-08-31 22:50
I gotta ask. This clip was the only part of the RNC convention I could stomach long enough to watch - just for this article. Where were all the tokens? Wasn't there even A SINGLE TOKEN non wasp in the crowd this year?

"We OWN this country", and a few thousand overfed overcompensated white people stand up and cheer. In past repug conventions you could always see the camera panning in on the two black people to show the party's "inclusiveness" (during their break from sweeping up). In this clip, it was just amazing to not see ANYONE who looked even OFF-white.

The audience looked as white as a car from the '90s, or HOA-approved drywall.

These people are living in a fantasy world and trying to pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist. Afterall, "they own us".
+2 # pernsey 2012-09-02 07:05
Quoting Billy Bob:
I gotta ask. This clip was the only part of the RNC convention I could stomach long enough to watch - just for this article. Where were all the tokens? Wasn't there even A SINGLE TOKEN non wasp in the crowd this year?

"We OWN this country", and a few thousand overfed overcompensated white people stand up and cheer. In past repug conventions you could always see the camera panning in on the two black people to show the party's "inclusiveness" (during their break from sweeping up). In this clip, it was just amazing to not see ANYONE who looked even OFF-white.

The audience looked as white as a car from the '90s, or HOA-approved drywall.

These people are living in a fantasy world and trying to pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist. Afterall, "they own us".

+3 # dyannne 2012-09-02 20:09
the Token.
+9 # ThePigman 2012-09-01 00:48
The longest, most embarrassing "senior moment" in the history of American politics. Well, except maybe for the Reagan presidency...
+6 # JetpackAngel 2012-09-01 04:19

"According to Nielsen overnight ratings, TLC’s controversial reality show “Here Comes Honey Boo Boo” drew 2.9 million viewers Wednesday night at 10 p.m. In second place: Fox News’ coverage of the Republican National Convention, to which 1.2 million adults tuned in."

This was possibly the best thing about the convention.
+7 # Rita Walpole Ague 2012-09-01 06:35
Thank you for the umpteenth time, St. Michael Moore, you brilliant and compassionate Irish devil.

And, please allow me to confess: my Irish fey (secondsightedn ess) kicked in when viewing your attached video. But rather than concentrating on the grade F speech (as you so correctly label Clint E. and his 'creepy' caca), I suddenly found myself totally absorbed with the G.O.P. convention audience/attendees.

Sad and then some to see how crippled with MSD (manipulation, spin, distraction) these folks are. The average I.Q. in that crowd was definitely lower than average, which, as the camera did not lie, my Irish fey flashed in on.

Conclusion: Eastwood's 'creepy' speech was well suited to that audience. Karl Rove, shining light of the far right's evil villainaire rulers, gets an A+ in dirty trickery brainwashing (MSDing), when those so karlroved are of average or less than average intelligence. Guess I'll have to change my nickname for the G.O.P.ers from Greedy Old Party folks to...

G.ots O.ther P.roblems dummies.
+3 # artic fox 2012-09-01 07:58
As Juvenal, the Roman satirist said: "The same people who once gave the laws, the symbols of office and the legions, now are only content with bread and circuses." (Satire no. 10)

They are giving the "bread" to the 1% and then there's the "circus" - their convention! for the 4200 who were in Tampa Bay.
-10 # jtatu 2012-09-01 08:57
I think most liberals are liberal because they want the government to address issues such as poverty with other people's money so they won't have to contribute their own money. Check out Obama's charitable contributions especially when he was only raking in $300,000 or less.
+5 # Billy Bob 2012-09-01 12:58
Yeah, it's sure a good thing for those "charitable" conservatives. That must be why our inner city schools are among the best in the world. If it wasn't for the charitable contributions to schools their own children don't attend, they might not be any better than those in the 3rd world.

Come to think of it...

-4 # jtatu 2012-09-02 20:24
You can clearly read and so you know what I am talking about. Sorry that the truth makes you yell.
+2 # Billy Bob 2012-09-03 19:57
So that's your answer? Sorry for being passionate. DEAL WITH IT.

By the way, I'm still waiting for ANY examples of conservatives being "more charitable". If you can site ANYTHING, I'd really appreaciate it.
-1 # jtatu 2012-09-04 09:30
Mitt Romney and his wife gave over $4,000,000 to charity last year. He donated his entire inheritance from his father to charity. Every local non-profit, including those that serve the poor and homeless, in my community are dependent on the generosity of political conservatives. That is probably generally true all over the country.
0 # bmiluski 2012-09-04 09:37
I'm a liberal and 30% of my paycheck goes into taxes paying for the medicare YOUR parents receive, and paving the roads YOU drive on. How about asking the 23 republican teabags in congress who are getting over $100,000/year in farm subsidies if they can say the same?
+5 # wrknight 2012-09-01 09:07
The only truth in the entire convention was Clint Eastwood's statement "We own this country". Well, they don't own quite all of it, yet, but they're sure as hell making a grab for all of it.

A Romney/Bain takeover of America would be the greatest corporate triumph in history.
+4 # wfalco 2012-09-01 09:54
It seems Clint's true colors really shined through-and Romney and Co. were taken way off guard.(Maybe.)
He seemed like a nice choice. An old, iconic movie star who (especially in the past decade)transcen ded age demographics with some masterful directorial efforts.
Known as a quiet Republican of the libertarian persuasion-seen by the Romney opeatives of perhaps helping cross over to the undecided "independents"- those borderline imbeciles who have no core beliefs-but vote on personality.
The move (we hope)backfired. Clint's "colors" were dramatically Red only(as in Red state.)
Not just Libertarian- but racist. I have never witnessed a convention where a sitting President was "talked down to" in such a condescending tone. Putting profane words into the mouth of the President with such obvious insinuation (how did that fly with some of their "base"?-the right wing Christian Fundamentalists.)

All the "shut ups" and "f" word insinuation can not possibly sit well with Republican main stream? But if it is OK with them, no not be fooled. Our worst fears are reality-they really are hard core racists. And perhaps Clint was a calculated risk. Obama just became "Willie Hortonized."
+9 # bobby t. 2012-09-01 12:19
The metaphor for a comedian who gets big laughs or applause from the audience is, " He killed." Eastwood killed the audience. He evidently wanted to do that and he did his job. It is stupid to argue differently.
Eastwood has made millions making movies about killers or better yet, murderers, like The Unforgiven, Josey Wales, Dirty Harry, Gran Tureno, and even Million Dollar Baby where he murders his female boxer in the end. etc. He knows how to commit murder. He also murdered five marriages. And if Moore ever comes on his expensive property in Carmel, he promises he will kill him.
The GOP is not pro life. It is pro death.
Don't tell me you are pro life but you want the death penalty and you want to bomb innocent people.
To deny global warming is to endorse the murder of seven billion people in the near future.
It is irrational to say "If we don't make the profit, someone else will!"
as an excuse to do great harm. That is the GOP mantra.
If that is the way you roll, you too are a murderer. (and yes, I believe in killing in self defense. that would make me one as well. it is survival and adaptation.)
But then again, we do have canine teeth and eyes in front of our head.
+5 # lneidhold 2012-09-02 12:29
A particularly notable point in this segment was when Eastwood stated "You own this country" with the standing ovation response. I can't help but think that this is the difference between Republicans and Democrats. Republicans treat this with a sense of entitlement while Democrats seem to instead treat it with a sense of privilege.
+1 # hd70642 2012-09-04 10:44
It is a shame you have a party that looks for enemies but evades actual solutions to problems and views meaningless mantras as panaceas . Yeah I think he knew the president was not there and everybody had things they mutter behind somebodys back but what if he was to able speak to the president he really would have looked foolish. I mean did the congressman who said say you lie actually did not look reasonable
0 # Judah Garlynne 2016-03-24 09:19
Well Michael, while your observations and feelings are warranted I have to painfully remind you that Clint has more fans than you. With that, he can do almost anything and it will garner affection and love, because he's Clint Friggin Eastwood. Clint could fart on stage and the crowd would still love him. He's one of the true and few people who can do that. Michael Moore doesn't have that level of popularity and never will. So deal with it.
Aside from that, depending on what political mindset you have, his speech was quite brilliant. He used his acting skills and drew us into his thoughts. He didn't pummel us with platitudes. He trashed Biden, Obama and pretty much the Democratic party. and they deserved it.
0 # tedrey 2016-03-24 10:39
It took four years for you to come up with something to say, Judah? Pathetic!

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