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Muslim Madness

Saturday, 21 August 2010 19:50
A message written in chalk outside of the proposed site for the Cordoba Initiative Mosque and Cultural Center, dubbed 'The Ground Zero Mosque,' 08/18/10. (photo: Getty Images)

A message written in chalk outside of the proposed site for the Cordoba Initiative Mosque and Cultural Center, dubbed 'The Ground Zero Mosque,' 08/18/10. (photo: Getty Images)



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bama, a Priest, a Rabbi and an Imam walk into a bar on 52nd Street and the bartender says - "What is this, a joke?"

Yes, it's a joke - just like our so-called "media."

Exhibit A: Chuck Todd told Andrea Mitchell that maybe the "President needs to be seen going to church more publicly." And another man said the same thing to Norah O'Donnell on her program. This was in response to a poll that showed 18 percent of Americans think Obama is a Muslim.

Pundits like Todd think the President should wear his religion on his sleeve so everyone knows he's not "THE OTHER." Why not a yellow Star of David with a Jesus Fish Emblem on his lapel so everyone in the media will recognize him and report honestly? Sorry, didn't mean to be snarky with that "honestly" remark. Yes, I did.

Exhibit B: CNN's John King allowed Franklin Graham to babble uninterrupted, "... He was born a Muslim, and his father gave him an Islamic name ... he has accepted Jesus Christ. That's what he says he has done, I cannot say that he hasn't."

John King mumbled something sage and wise, I'm sure.

I question why the president's religion is an issue at all for pollsters or pundits or the public? It's been awhile since I've read the Constitution, but I recall something about "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification for any office or position of public trust under the United States."

That would be the same Constitution that protects freedom of religion, whether for Catholic presidents, Christian and Jewish politicians or Muslim people. That would be the same Constitution that does not see "Muslim" as a smear, but as a right of citizens to practice their religion.

Let's understand that this is nothing but a cynical ploy by political operatives to tar the president as illegitimate and distract the public from the real issues.

Obama could take a weekend and pray at a mosque on Friday, worship at a synagogue on Saturday and sing hymns with "Christians" on Sunday morning, and still the media would breathlessly echo political shouters who demand to know, "Why can't Obama pick a God?"

The "eternal campaign" cycle of modern politics has given the star-studded media a new package of M&Ms - Muslims and Mexicans. It's a sugarcoated high for millionaire talk show hosts who stroke their celebrity chins in puzzlement while promoting disingenuous diatribes about free speech and sacred free markets and the American Dream.

This is: Saturday Night Battle of the Blowhards - the WWE Smackdown vs. Raw video game of American media culture. Nothing is more fun than a zealot, a microphone and two minutes of hate. The ratings jump and the pundit's paychecks zoom higher in direct proportion to the level of controversy.

Brad Peck of the US Chamber of Commerce said, "... choosing the right place to work and choosing the right partner at home ..." had more to do with inequality of pay for women and not discrimination. Where is the media coverage on this story? Where is the outrage? Oh, that's right, it's just about women. They only make up about half the world, and not even the important half.

Unless of course there is a really juicy angle like, say: new DNA test results prove Justin Bieber is the secret love child of Hillary Clinton and Janet Reno! Did the Enquirer already do that story? We could use the word "lesbian," that always gets good ratings.

Yeah, equal pay for equal work is boring stuff, just like unemployment and financial reform and skyrocketing foreclosure rates. Covering that stuff is hard, and not nearly as exciting as racism or divining which God is good or what crazy political hacks are tweeting verbal bird droppings on the Internet. Hey, the Internet - wasn't there something about corporations taking over the Internet and destroying Net Neutrality? Anybody? Somebody Google that and see if it has any broadcast value. Now, back to crazy-land and the people who love them.

Fifteen of the nineteen 9/11 hijackers were Saudi Arabians. Muslims. The second largest investor of News Corp (7% ownership) is Prince Al Waleed bin Talal, nephew of King Abdullah and a Muslim. News Corp. owns FOX News. FOX News is a major source of anti-Muslim and anti-Obama fear-mongering and hateful propaganda. Why would "real" Americans believe anything FOX News says? Is Muslim money okay when it pays FOX News salaries for Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck?

Kind of gives a whole new meaning to "Crazy like a FOX" doesn't it?

Maybe the media should look at this in our military. "Onward Christian Soldiers" is no longer just a hymn, but an anthem. How long before Army recruiters ask new troops, "Are you now or have you even been anything other than a Christian?"

The Cordoba House could have been and still could be a powerful healing force for good, an educational tool, and a wonderful symbol of tolerance and inclusion of true American values. It won't happen. If it goes forward, the Cordoba House will become a target of hate-mongers instead of a symbol of peace. It will be defaced and vandalized, and the media will rush to cover the incidents while asking, "Was this a good idea? Should they move somewhere less offensive, say, Tennessee or Kentucky or California?"

You see, you can lead a mob to a tree, but the hanging doesn't count unless the media is there to give context and ask the proper question: "Is It a Dead Body or Just an Ornament? We report - you decide. Keeping them honest."

Obama, a Priest, a Rabbi and an Imam walk into a bar on 52nd Street and the bartender says - "What is this, the end of the world?"


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+60 # angelfish 2010-08-21 23:16
I'll take Obama over a "born again" Yahoo like George W. Bush any day of the week. For all his "Christianity", Bush wrought more death, destruction and mayhem than the Taliban or Al Queda had dreamed of in their collective existence. Organized religion has murdered more human beings than Plagues, Floods, Tornadoes, Hurricanes, Tsunamis or Earthquakes. MEN have perverted the Word till it is unrecognizable to any reasonable Christian. The Bible says, "By your Works you're known." At least the work that President Obama is accomplishing will HELP Americans for a change.
+36 # goodsensecynic 2010-08-22 08:42
Let's not forget that, as Governor of Texas, George W. Bush presided over the execution of something in the neighborhood of 150 people in Texan prisons.

That is, of course, only a small faction of the number of soldiers and civilians killed in the Halliburton Wars, but it gives good insight into his sense of Christian charity.

Blessed are the peacemakers? Blessed are the merciful?

Not on his watch!
+62 # Guest 2010-08-21 23:30
John are THE man! Once again, your acidic truth eats through the slime of the day to reveal the very heart of our culture, a heart that is putrid and dying. What I can't quite wrap my head around is the utter shamelessness of these times. The Imam of Cordoba House is a Sufi Muslim. The Sufis are to Islam what Quakers are to Christianity. There is no more peaceful, more tolerant a body of Muslims than these. The resistance to this establishment is racist hatred, religious bigotry, and is supremely unAmerican and anti-Constituti onal, and the yahoos pitching their vile about it frankly don't give a da**. These are the very people I endeavor to protect my children from lest they get the idea that wrapping yourself in the flag justifies anything vile that it wraps. Well crap wrapped in the flag is still crap and the media is betraying us all by failing to point out that we are lawfully obliged to support and protect, at any cost, the Sufi right to exist any da** place they want to.
+31 # Guest 2010-08-21 23:47
We are entering, or are already well into depending on point of view, a "new" dark ages.The computer, the internet which "can" be used for the dissemination of "useful" information is now fast becoming nothing but a conduit for racial animosity, hate, self-serving interests etc. Man will not live long enough to fulfill the great sci-fi writers dreams such as Bradbury and Clarke. We will not die in the icy reaches of outer space, but here, on Earth, in cyber space. Enlightenment is fast being replaced with self-indulgency and the path to both spiritual and economic redemption lies at the crossroads of humanity's greatest frailties. Greed, bigotry, lust, xenophobia to name but a few. Twitter, Facebook, My Space, Texting, the whole f*****G 24/7 culture of constant communication and enhanced madness is becoming,at least for this 53 yr. old almost unbearable. We're 300+ million little self-contained, self-interested economic units rapidly losing the ability to feel, to love, to understand empathy. Hell awaits.
+10 # Guest 2010-08-22 10:11
You are "spot on". The internet could be utilized to plant the seeds of peace and understanding or to spread the vile disease of hate, ignorance and bigotry. Unfortunately, for the citizens of this nation, it is the latter. This country has lost its lofty goal to be a nation built on tolerance, compassion, and respect for one another.

I'm afraid the election of President Obama simply ushered in an "era of pure evil and madness". Heaven help us all!
+6 # bl8ant 2010-08-23 10:13
heaven won't do shit ...we have to help ourselves....we 're on the same page but i guess that's what's wrong with this picture...we are all preaching to the choir...the people that need to be educated are no where near the information that will shift their perspectives... the media they choose is god to no don't call on heaven the saying goes be careful what you wish for....their heaven would take us all out in a heartbeat. jus sayin
+8 # Guest 2010-08-22 15:07
Dave: Good writing and critical thinking. Now that you have determined the problems, use that gifted mind to formulate a reasonable plan to bring us back from the brink of "hell" as you know it. Most of those who CAN communicate of those 300+ million you speak of do feel, do love and can empathize, so you do have lots of friends to support you. Join the movement to take back America and make it a nation that once again moves forward for the betterment of ALL people. We can't do it without you and those like you Dave. Become active, demonstrate, protest, write, phone, organize and keep doing it until we succeed. And we WILL succeed Dave. We all have a choice, just make sure yours is the correct one Dave. Looking forward to seeing you back in the ranks moving forward.
+4 # Guest 2010-08-22 17:38
Thanks Tim, I am "so" disheartened. I am active. I write for a local "alternative" paper in my hometown. No,I'm not gay, it's just a small monthly that the local Peace and Justice Network puts out. I write letters to a number of daily papers. My wife and I are working to re-elect a local Democratic congressman. Volunteering when we can. I realize people are not the monochromatic mindset I portrayed earlier, it just seems so damn hopeless sometimes. I have two daughters in their twenties and I honestly fear for their futures. Marx wrote that Capitalism would become like a tiger chasing his own tail before finally consuming himself. I think he was right. We are so inundated with the distractions of mass consumerism and the concept of acquiring wealth that I believe many have simply forgot how to both express and understand the feelings that are needed to heal the terrible wounds we keep inflicting on ourselves and one another. I have a poetry blog I'd love feedback. Good luck,Tim.
+47 # Guest 2010-08-21 23:58
As for the Mosque in New York, what better way would there be to show the world that we are indeed a nation built on democratic principles than the erection of that Mosque near ground zero. Does Freedom of Religion mean anything or doesn't it. The Spaniard conquered large segments of the Americas beginning in 1521, and for the next 300 years built his Christian missions on what must have been in many cases, the "hallowed ground" of the native Americans who had lived and worked and died there for many generations. Christian atrocities fill enough books to stock a large library yet the whole Islamic religion is now under attack for the actions of a few. Sinclair Lewis wrote "When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Mr. Lewis has been dead for many years. If he were alive he would be keenly aware of the massing threat getting ready to march down Main Street.
+33 # Guest 2010-08-22 01:08
As a progressive Muslim, I think it is important to point at that the idea of Cordoba House takes us back to the era of Convivencia when the three major monotheistic faiths thrived on co-existence in Muslim Spain. The vision of Cordoba House is to build bridges between all communities in New York. But where the whole project is ill-conceived is that the plan does not include a church, a synagogue, a Hindu temple, a Sikh Gurdwara, a Buddhist temple and nature court-yard for the pagans and (thank you Rush Limbaugh, LOL!) a gay truly celebrate New York's diversity! If we are going to create the ultimate inter-faith alliance, we need to build sacred spaces and houses of worship that truly embrace the Other. Otherwise we are just pretending! If the Muslims could lead with that kind of guiding vision, only the real bigots would want out!
+2 # Guest 2010-08-27 11:31
Right on! I hope the Park 51 group will heed your (and my) call. I sent a note to them suggesting they build a "Multi-Cultural " Community Center. They'd get: Support from everyone; Great press; Community involvement; Funding from many sources; and in the process, totally diffuse the situation. I'm what would be calld an "old white lady" who was brought up to believe TRULY that "everybody is everybody" and I have this to say to all those scardey cat jerks: There is no "BUT" in the first amendment. It is the BASIS of all that is AMERICA.
+43 # Guest 2010-08-22 01:12
I am so sad what has happened to this country. I lived through the MacCarthy era. It is returning in full force.

What happened to this great country? I am so ashamed of what we have become
+35 # Guest 2010-08-22 02:08
Again John Cory nails it. The rottenness in the media and the irresponsible behavior of some of the show hosts. They don't contradict guests who are factually wrong, and they are breathless with excitement when talking about the upcoming election.


Do these fools live in this country??? Do they not care that hatred is ruining it. Muslims are citizens with the same rights as Christians and Jews.

The Muslim center would be a great thing, since it is open to all. We need to learn about each other.

Franklin Graham is a disgrace. Keep him off the air. He profess to being a Christian?? He is so full of hatred. He makes Christianity look ugly
+18 # Guest 2010-08-22 08:55
I disagree ... Republicans have the will and cajones to do whatever they want. Their skill in ignoring the majority of Americans' opinion on social matters and things like making war with others is the stuff of legends.

The last time we had Democrat with that kind of single-mindedne ss was Johnson, who would twist arms, threaten, cajole, bribe and do whatever he could to get his ideas brought to fruition. He personally took on pushing through civil rights legislation when the majority of Americans were not so sure.

So, no, if the Republicans get back into power, they will not have gridlock ... they know how to get things done, regardless of the constitutionali ty, the morally correct thing to do or the will of the people. It will be full-tilt boogie into regression, suppression and self-indulgent crimes against humanity.
+9 # Guest 2010-08-22 19:04
The major difference between Johnson and Obama is that Johnson had 'old school' Republicans to deal with.....not the insane nutcases who call themselves Republican of today. There have been Republicans in the national gov't who actually worked to some extent for the betterment of the citizens. The corporations had not yet taken full control of our gov't. That is no longer true. And in case you haven't looked the corporations have captured both parties.
+6 # Guest 2010-08-23 16:01
Sliderossian, It is gridlock for the country in that we will not have any laws passed, appointees of the president confirmed, so basically no progress.

We will fall father behind the other industrial countries. Which seems to be the aim of the republicans: Kill the middle class.

We will have more people with no other employment prospect than going into the army.
+28 # Guest 2010-08-22 02:47
Once in Germany -1930-there was a leader with so much hate within his mentally disturbed mind toward a nation of people, he accused them of whatever it took -- for his naive followers to spread hate, and discrimination all over, mostly out of FEAR of the leader. In 2002 a leader in America felt the same way, did the same thing, and the naive also. The hate within our country is because the followers are immature teens of mind in an adult body, who rebel against the adults. This includes 90% of the Media, and the crazed Fundamentalists .
+20 # Guest 2010-08-22 04:07
What I like about this piece is that it gives a rare description about a situation and then shows what is actually behind it! We get so little of this in the news today; for example, where is the "why?" behind our invasion of Iraq. We still get nothing but spin for an answer.
+16 # Guest 2010-08-22 04:39
"Fifteen of the nineteen 9/11 hijackers were Saudi Arabians. Muslims. The second largest investor of News Corp (7% ownership) is Prince Al Waleed bin Talal, nephew of King Abdullah and a Muslim. News Corp. owns FOX News. FOX News is a major source of anti-Muslim and anti-Obama fear-mongering and hateful propaganda. Why would "real" Americans believe anything FOX News says? Is Muslim money okay when it pays FOX News salaries for Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck?"

Should you be crediting or at least acknowledging this info on Fox was put out on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart a few days ago?
+21 # Guest 2010-08-22 05:01
Some people want to remain willfully ignorant rather than think and inform themselves.

Ignorance and Foxnews are so interwoven in the minds of those addicted to letting others do their thinking for them.

Education might be able to unaddict the future generation{s}.

But don't bet on it.
+17 # Guest 2010-08-22 06:57
Somebody is always asking such questions about people who challenge the status quo in America in any way. (Of course we know that such 'somebodies' exist because we see/hear them on the media.

I think maybe people are asking about the wrong people. We should be asking about those who own/control the media. Are they like us or are they perhaps the Other? I'll bet that would get some screams -- if we could even be heard asking that question in the first place!
+18 # Guest 2010-08-22 07:21
John Cory .... I always like your articles, but you're aiming at the wrong target: the media are not as culpable as their audience. If there weren't demand for lesbians in the headlines, you wouldn't see lesbians in the headlines. No, they don't need to pander, but let's face it: most people in this country would rather read about Halle Berry's "revealing" new dress than find out what's going on in Darfur. How else could George Bush be elected TWICE?
+19 # Guest 2010-08-22 08:14
John, thank you. Man can you hit the nail on the head. I have waited for someone to give a cogent and lucid response to the insanity that is now infecting America. As a veteran I worry that there is a U.S. soldier who is a Muslim fighting in Afghanistan and he is watching this debate and wondering why he is putting his life on the line.

Thanks again John, Great work!
+11 # Guest 2010-08-22 08:28
The wingnuts love The Constitution... "of convenience". This is where they get to pick and choose the parts they like. The thinking goes like this: "I know the Constitution say you have the right BUT....I would be more comfortable if you would (fill in the blanks) "Practice your religion where I can't see,
Build your church where I can't see it,
Sit in the back,
Use the other water fountain,
If you ladies would just quit voting....
etc. etc. etc....
+23 # Guest 2010-08-22 08:40
Ignorance in the great USA is indeed rampant. The sad truth about it is that some political leaders are proud of it: to be a liberal is to be educated, and the educated should be distrusted. For many on the right "liberal" is the worst insult they can inflict on a thinking person. "Cordoba Center" is an apt name for a center of whatever religion interested in fostering understanding and harmony among different peoples. Under the Umayyad dynasty of Cordoba, for three hundred years, Muslims, Christians and Jews lived in harmony. This is known as "La Convivencia," live and let live. What wonderful lessons we could learn from studying it. Are we today more civilized than the people of Cordoba in the middle ages under Muslim rule? We are "democratic" now, but the darkness of Fascism thrives among the ignorant of America.
+14 # Guest 2010-08-22 08:43
Has everyone forgotten that it wasn't too terribly long ago when Barack Obama was being attacked for being under the sway of his CHRISTIAN minister Jeremiah Wright? How quickly the media and the American people forget! Barack Obama has, without question, the most unique religious background of any president in U.S. history: he is the son of a Christian mother who married to a lapsed Muslim, and then married into a family which includes a rabbi.

Who could ask for anything more?

If Barack Obama is a Muslim, then I am Lebron James . . .
+9 # Guest 2010-08-22 09:23
FOX needs to change it's name to DESERT FOX in proud, fair, and balanced recognition of it's Saudi patrimony.
+11 # Guest 2010-08-22 09:50
Well said, John Cory !! When will the "human beings" of this country stop judging their countrymen by their religion, race or any other characteristics that are nobody elses business?
+10 # Guest 2010-08-22 10:22
Bless you, John Cory! Truth, boldly uttered, does the heart good. "The American dream", is only real for those who are asleep, the rest of us can plainly see that it is a farce. "Bread and circuses" are supposed to keep us quiet, yet while the corporate media happily gives us circuses, Republicans are trying desperately to take away our bread. Will the American dreamers wake up in time to join with the rest of us to save this democracy? Beats me.
+14 # willymack 2010-08-22 10:41
The sad truth of the matter is that so many of us would rather listen to and attach credence to hate mongers like Bugs Beck and scatterbrains like the "Tootsie of the Tundra", than go to the BBC or al Jazeera, and expose themselves to REAL news and views.

Our "enemies" have been manufactured by far-right crazies, and abysmal IGNORANCE.
+9 # Guest 2010-08-22 10:46
How many know that back in 2000, Barack Obama lost his only campaign against 4-term Representative Bobby Rush. One of the issues Rush (a former Black Panther) raised against Obama was that he was "too close to the Jewish community." (Among his earliest supporters and backers were Newton Minnow, Abner Mikva and the Pritzkers.)

And now people think he's a Muslim?
+24 # Guest 2010-08-22 11:02
LOCAL MUSLIM MYSTIFIED, DISMAYED, Arizona Daily Star, 8/22/2010

I am dismayed at the current and obviously orchestrated up¬roar by special interests against building mosques in our country. I defended this nation for 10 years as a U.S. Marine with four deployments to the Middle East including Afghanistan. I am also a Muslim. I'm completely mystified how my fellow Americans could think that my fellow American - Muslims are either responsible for Sept. 11 or that our mosques are a danger to them. Let's not listen to those who try to make people hate others just to get higher ratings or more votes. Instead, come by our mosque on Friday nights and have dinner with us as we break our Ramadan fasts together. We'd love to have you over and show you we have nothing to hide. Michael Gatto, Application Developer. Sr. Sahuarita
+8 # Guest 2010-08-22 12:33
What an excellent idea! Food sharing is the most form of reciprocity and what better way to get to know people than over a good meal. This would be a great way to protest the right wing xenophobia. Why not issue open invitations to all.
+1 # Guest 2010-08-27 11:52
Dear fellow American
Thank you for your service to our nation.
I applaud you and all of our men and women who voluntarily put themselves in harms way to protect our MUTUAL way of life. You will NOT be forgotten.

I live at Ground Zero. I WANT the Community Center to be built.
I'd like to suggest, to anyone who will listen, that perhaps the Cordoba Center can be re-directed, right at that site, as a "Multi-Faith" Community Center, including ALL major religions plus community space, to reflect the true basis of the original Cordoba concept. It would SO diffuse the whole situation, would garner great community support, would get very positive publicity, and likely get funding from many, many sources both religious and secular.

I think there's a great opportunity here...what do YOU think? Can you pass this idea along? I've sent a note to the Park 51 folks, but haven't gotten a response.

Thank you...keep the faith...however you perceive it!
+16 # Guest 2010-08-22 11:19
It is such a shame that we Americans have given up thinking to just let others do it for us. We no longer challenge ourselves to look into and correct lies being told. We just accept them as truths. When I went to school in the 50's we were told to look at all sides and then come to a conclusion. now we just take the side we like and leave it at that. No wonder slimeballs like Rush and company have such a following. We don't want to think for ourselves anymore. not to worry. wait long enough and some one will tell us what to do just like germany in 1935.
+3 # Guest 2010-08-22 13:18
O.K. analysis - but?
but 7% in "Media" = propaganda makes sense - who are the other 93%? And it were the saudis who financed first reagan war on Iran? Dejavu.
+4 # Guest 2010-08-22 14:41

Check out for a heartfelt essay on this most difficult situation, and a brief history of American xenophobia and intolerance . . .
+10 # Guest 2010-08-22 15:43
I was raised to respect all religions, but at over 50 years of age, and after studying many religions, and after seeing how religious followers really act, the sad truth is that nearly every religion attempts to paint other religions as "heretical" and non-believers NOT worthy of equal treatment. Christianity, my background, is rife with hypocrisy and corruption, but so is every other faith, and I fear religions due to their need to paint themselves as superior to is a recipe for never ending hostility and mistrust. I wish the constitution had stated "freedom FROM religion"; it might have worked out a lot better for everyone.
0 # Guest 2010-08-22 17:07
Actually, this is not true about Judaism. Within Jewish law and thought, it is far, far easier for a non-Jew to get to Heaven than it is for a Jew . . . We do not refer to non-Jews as "heathens." Even the Yiddish word, "goy," by which Jews refer to non-Jews, means, merely, "a person of another nation."
+4 # Guest 2010-08-22 18:35
As a side comment, I believe the Presbyterian Church, USA, took Onward Christian Soldiers out of the hymmbook many years ago.
+5 # Guest 2010-08-23 01:53
Seems most people who left their comments on this subject have it right on.

Muslims as a whole are a peaceful people, but a few are just plain nuts.

Doesn't that like the apples make the entire barrel bad, no, of course not.

Please don't let the media do your thinking for you, nature gave you a brain, use it.

Onward and upward hopefully,
+4 # Guest 2010-08-23 09:07
I learned quite some time ago that the media's primary purpose is to keep the masses divided by slanting information to keep friction between us: everyone. To modify an old quote from Sam Clemens, If you don't listen to the media you're uninformed, and if you do listen to the media you're misinformed!
+2 # Guest 2010-08-23 09:13
The last statement "Uninformed and Misinformed" should have been a modified quoted from Will Rogers instead of Sam Clemens.
+7 # Guest 2010-08-23 12:08
The Republicans via the media are working
overtime to start World War III (or the mother of all jihads)with their false accusations and demonization of a religion with a huge following around the world. Their lies and bigotry are
doing nothing but setting the stage for
more terrorist activity. Thanks a lot, fools!!!
+3 # Guest 2010-08-23 13:25
You've got it right on the spot.
+5 # Guest 2010-08-23 19:28
Cory's admirable and on-the-point comments notwithstanding , I think it's not about Muslims or Islam at all, but about certain self-styled "leaders" having looked for and found a key to stirring up unknowing, unthinking and prejudiced followers for the purpose of paving their own way into power. If they should succeed, the problem for them would be how to control their own creation, as in the case of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice". For the rest of us it would mean living with intolerable invasions of our liberties. We'd best be on guard and call the Sorcerers' bluffs as often and as effectively as we know how, starting now!
0 # Guest 2010-08-27 22:51
i, AS A JEW AND AS AN ISRAELI, admire the U.S. officials and U.S. citizens who support the building of the mosque.

as a member of one of the world's most persecuted religions, i can only say KUDOS to those who uphold religious rights to ANY religion.

i'm ashamed of the jews who are against the building of the mosque...
0 # Guest 2010-08-28 15:36

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