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Intro: "Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) has, to say the least, a very odd understanding of the Constitution. He thinks Texas should be able to opt out of Social Security, and he believes that everything from federal public school programs to clean air laws are unconstitutional. Yet in an interview with the Daily Beast's Andrew Romano, Perry makes his most outlandish claim to date - Social Security and Medicare are unconstitutional."

Texas Gov. Rick Perry has some fun with a six-shooter filled with blanks as NASCAR driver Colin Braun looks on. (photo: Rodger Mallison/MCT)
Texas Gov. Rick Perry has some fun with a six-shooter filled with blanks as NASCAR driver Colin Braun looks on. (photo: Rodger Mallison/MCT)

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+90 # Kayjay 2011-08-12 21:55
So this man who doesn't really know what our founding fathers meant by "general welfare" wants to be president. I guess that was a really tough "gotcha" question by the lame stream media, eh? This man is very scary. Just put a red spongy clown's nose on him and let the staff at "Ripley's believe it or not," record his quotations for posterity.
-21 # Rita Walpole Ague 2011-08-13 03:51
Yes, Kayjay, Perry's Scary. And, scariest of all, unless a pres. named OhBombAh says bye bye and does not run in '12, we, especially with a third party candidate running, will very likely end up with another puppet whore for the villainaire rulers like Perry, or some other looney tunes, fully scripted Kochsucker in the White House after the next election.

So....go progressives go. Let's push with everything and everybody we've got to avoid more Bushwhacking, Kochsucking, and OhBombAh'ing.
+5 # racetoinfinity 2011-08-15 00:03
Did you see him on stage in front of people in Iowa today He seemed squirrly, anxious, and, as I've noted before, a bonehead (of course that didn't impede Shrub.) Combine this with his above outlandish statements, and if the Dems can't beat him (if he's the nominee), it must be massive fraud or incompetence in the Dems' ads.
+56 # Ken Lyon 2011-08-12 22:41
Wonder what those guys who gave their lives fighting to make Texas part of the U.S are thinking now. We should have let Mexico keep it.
+35 # in deo veritas 2011-08-13 07:43
Let them secede from the Union and see how long they survive. I doubt Mexico would take them back. They have enough problems already. The last idiot they foistered on us has about finished us. What Perry and his sycophants had better be prayhing for is forgiveness for trying to hide behind religion to further their nihilist program. I hope their prayers go unanswered!
+7 # Monica Ackerman 2011-08-13 16:20
ALL prayers go unanswered. Praiyng does nothing for anybody except the prayor: it makes them feel like they're DOING something. Mother Teresea already stated in her letters that she always felt that when she was praying, that "there was no one there."
+41 # foxtrottango 2011-08-13 07:59
I disagree. Mexico has enough serious problems already without these nuts on board. What did Benito Juarez said is very true: "So far from God so close to Texas" was perhaps a warning being given to a future USA population.

With so many bordering-on-th e-insane politicians now wanting to become president (obviously, being a dysfunctional Alaska or Texas governor is a boring job) and the future of the USA up for grabs by those same border-on-the-i nsane Republican Party on the payroll of greedy corporates, I'm not very optimistic in the Nation back on course.

The question is why do voters in a high sophisticated nation like ours let these kind of politicians get away with it knowing that they are bent on destroying the very fiber of morality, financially and economically of working men and women.

Both Rick Perry and Michele Backmann are using fundamentism dogma to con the American people. They have the makinga of anti-Christs!

Only in the USA, folks, can fools like Bachmann, Perry, Palin and run for a very high office which could mean the destruction of civilized once-upon-a-tim e nation.
+16 # bigkahuna671 2011-08-13 09:32
Did you actually call us a "highly sophisticated nation?" I can't believe that. Americans are the most naive, stupid voters out there. They vote for the flavor-of-the-m onth, then bitch when the flavor ends up tasting like cow manure. We let ourselves get fooled by rhetoric (look at Obama), then can't understand why we got bit in the backside. We NEED Hilary! She's smarter than all the Republifascist candidates out there combined and would crush any three of them in a debate. As for they're being Christians...we ll, perhaps they should all start asking themselves, what would Jesus do, 'cause all the BS they spout is so anti-Christ and pro-Koch. No, we are definitely not a sophisticated nation!
0 # cenglish10 2011-08-17 08:29
We dont need Hilary, far too right-wing, not a progressive. We might need Warren Buffet to change the tax laws and get the rich guys in line. FDR came from the class he had to control, because these guys are on a rampage, taking the little we have and now they want the social security and medicare money too...they want it all and have us as serfs.
+6 # suzyskier 2011-08-14 20:33
If these buffoons do get elected, such a terrifying thought, what have we done that we deserve such horror as this would be? I suggest we all start looking to migrate back to Europe, Asia, Africa etc. Actually leaving here for the same reasons our ancestors came here. Just a thought. Denmark looks pretty good from here and they are the happiest people in the world.
+1 # mad 2011-08-16 23:49
have you listened to the comments from the prime minister of great britain??
+7 # KittatinyHawk 2011-08-13 21:18
Can let it go..after all if Texas want to leave the Us Mexico and Central America got first dibs at!
+3 # mad 2011-08-16 23:46
the ghost of molly ivins requires the texans of heart of keep up the good fight in the midst of all this
+67 # MashingTheGas 2011-08-12 22:45
An arrogant, ignorant hayseed in a suit from Texas who wants to lower taxes for the rich, supports his state's secession from the Union (while wanting to be that Union's CIC), wants to gut our nation's flagship social safety nets and tells us God told him to run for office.

What could possibly go wrong with that?
+47 # angelfish 2011-08-12 23:23
Perry is sinking his own boat as he prates on like the imbecile he TRULY is! He almost makes "dubya" look like an intellectual! Granted, he DOES have better hair but that's about all that can be said in his favor. WHERE are ANY Republican Candidates of Substance and Intelligence? Then again, these days, I guess it IS kind of silly to link "Republican" and "Intelligence" together in a sentence. No fault to the Republicans since they have been usurped by the K.N.F.P. (Koch/Norquist Fascist Party)!
+61 # Night Raider 2011-08-12 23:49
Just so the nation knows, Rick Perry is known as an egocentric idiot down here in Texas. I wouldn't get particualry fret over anything he says. If he stands by this stupid statement the baby boomers and seniors will laugh him out of the room. It just means the Republicans have added another clown to their ship of fools.
+7 # racetoinfinity 2011-08-15 00:07
Yes! They used to call him "The Ken Doll" in Austin.
+2 # cenglish10 2011-08-17 08:31
they may have called him the ken doll but enough people voted for him to make him governor...yike s! we need not be complacent. we see him for a buffoon, but he is a dangerous buffoon and probably has the criminal Koch Brothers behind him...
+30 # lark3650 2011-08-12 23:52
What is that saying? Better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are stupid than speak up and remove all doubt....someth ing like that.
+50 # Regina 2011-08-12 23:52
"Fools rush in where wise men fear to tread" -- fits Perry to the max. He's super-delusiona l and self-aggrandizi ng. Only Texas would elect him governor, and then feed his presidential fantasies. But the Texas bluster gave us Dubya, and if we aren't totally vigilant it could happen again.
+6 # Interested Observer 2011-08-13 09:02
Quoting Regina:
"Fools rush in where wise men fear to tread"

I think its more dramatic than that. The expression is "Fools rush in where ANGELS fear to tread."
+6 # d julien 2011-08-14 16:39
I heard Perry on the radio and he sounded eerily like W!! Oy!
+1 # mad 2011-08-16 23:52
hey, in california we were stuck with an actor for how many terms???
0 # cenglish10 2011-08-17 08:31
just until he became president...
+26 # Julia Eulenberg 2011-08-12 23:56
The notion that Texas can legally secede is, I believe, a myth. It may have been a verbal understanding when the Republic of Texas came into the Union as a state. That right certainly did not exist after the Civil War. Secession of the Confederate states, after all, was the primary reason that war was fought. That was the perspective of both sides. It hardly makes sense that secession would be permitted as one of the codicils of the peace treaty after the Civil War. I learned this in Texas history!
+9 # TrueAmericanPatriot 2011-08-14 19:22
Quoting Julia Eulenberg:
The notion that Texas can legally secede is, I believe, a myth. It may have been a verbal understanding when the Republic of Texas came into the Union as a state. That right certainly did not exist after the Civil War. Secession of the Confederate states, after all, was the primary reason that war was fought. That was the perspective of both sides. It hardly makes sense that secession would be permitted as one of the codicils of the peace treaty after the Civil War. I learned this in Texas history!

That shows just how foolhardy "Perry the gov't cash grabbing parasite" is. SECESSION was outlawed, declared UNCONSTITUTIONA L shortly AFTER THE CIVIL WAR ENDED. Oh, that's right! He wants to change the history books, so......
+46 # moby doug 2011-08-12 23:58
Texas pols have been spewing racist, know-nothing, hateful filth at the nation for a century and more. The first head of HUAC, Rep. Martin Dies (R, Texas) spouted sentiments so far to the right that HUAC was lauded by both the KKK and the Third Reich. The sad thing about Perry is that the lame-stream media speaks of him as if he were a credible candidate instead of the malignant, rabblerousing, ignoramus he is.
+23 # kswsma 2011-08-13 00:01
please let texas secede
+37 # snappytom 2011-08-13 08:27
If Perry were to ever be elected to the presidency we would secede as fast as possible. Then Texas would finally be free of the Perry disaster. God, save us from Rick Perry, Amen.
+5 # TrueAmericanPatriot 2011-08-14 19:24
Quoting kswsma:
please let texas secede

AND built a GREAT WALL of their own around them; COMPLETE WITH BORDER PATROLS!!
+18 # kswsma 2011-08-13 00:07
Let Texas secede now. Please.
+20 # Progressive Patriot 2011-08-13 00:21
I think being from Texas must be unconstitutiona l.
+25 # vitobonespur 2011-08-13 00:58
I had a friend years ago who contracted a serious disease requiring him to have a cholostomy. The poor guy has been living with a bag on his hip for many years. I think I'll try to track him down and tell him Texas has an extra asshole.
+41 # pres 2011-08-13 01:03
After SS going on successfully for 75yrs Rick comes up with this?
They'll say anything to get their hands on the SS fund... it's big money that Wall St could make 'evaporate'.
+37 # Dick Huopana 2011-08-13 08:13
Another reason Perry and Republicans probably want to privatize SS is that the government has borrowed over $2.5 trillion of the trust fund's surplus revenues (surpluses supposedly intended to accrue to help fund the increasing cost of Boomer generation pensions).

But, instead, the $2.5 trillion has been routinely borrowed by Presidents and Congresses to reduce budget deficits, thereby enabling them to repeatedly postpone levying sufficient taxes to fully fund the spending they've approved.

Now the Boomer generation is retiring and SS revenues have/are declining because of the Great Recession. So SS needs the government (and its taxpayers) to begin repaying the $2.5 trillion sooner than expected. That is, its now time to levy the taxes that have been repeatedly postponed.

Bet that anti-tax Republicans (and Blue Dog Democrats) have never intended that SS will be re-paid and that privatizing the program is how they plan to somehow dishonestly default on the $2.5 trillion debt - without it being called a default.

Which is why S&P's August 5 downgrade - and probably future downgrades - will become increasingly legitimized.
+2 # mad 2011-08-16 23:57
ijole. who gave enron triple a rating? s and p????
+30 # banichi 2011-08-13 02:08
Clearly he's a TP'er, hates government without rational reason for it. But it also appears that he's one of the right-wingers who believe that if you tell a lie often enough and loudly enough, people will believe it is the truth. Isn't that how he got into office, along with the rest of the TP'ers who were supported by the Koch brothers?
+26 # in deo veritas 2011-08-13 07:48
Same philosophy about lies as used by Dr. Goebbels in the Third Reich. More than a coincidence-jus t ask Roger Ailes. It has certainly worked for him and Faux News.
+24 # Michael Volok 2011-08-13 04:00
NO MORE TEXANS !!!!! LBJ 's false flag of the Gulf of Tonklin incident escalated the Vietnam war and nearly broke America with his massive war expenses, He was behind the assassination of JFK-the next Texan GWB - another false flag that started two illegal wars GWB was responsible for the largest increase in govt expansion, spending and borrowing, GWB was directly responsible for the 2008 forward finavial collapse NO MORE of these dumb ass ignorant ill educated TEXANS>
+11 # thor odinnson 2011-08-13 17:49
lbj was the last president since fdr to actually care about the common man .his presidency's theme was "a war on poverty" no other president since or after has given a damn about eradicating poverty but him. for Vietnam blame Truman, Eisenhower and Kennedy .i am sick as hell of every one calling bush a texan ,he was from Connecticut just like the rest of his puritanical clan. most things that are screwed up originate on the east coast
+8 # Shirley DeMarco 2011-08-13 17:58
I absolutely agree with you on everything...Ho wever, LBJ did get Medicare passed. Other than that, NO MORE TEXANS!!!!!!!!! ! Let them secede.
+5 # TrueAmericanPatriot 2011-08-14 19:27
Quoting Michael Volok:
NO MORE TEXANS !!!!! LBJ 's false flag of the Gulf of Tonklin incident escalated the Vietnam war and nearly broke America with his massive war expenses, He was behind the assassination of JFK-the next Texan GWB - another false flag that started two illegal wars GWB was responsible for the largest increase in govt expansion, spending and borrowing, GWB was directly responsible for the 2008 forward finavial collapse NO MORE of these dumb ass ignorant ill educated TEXANS>

Actually, Michael, he and his family grew up in Greenwich, Connecticut. He is really a DRUGSTORE COWBOY!!!
+39 # raclis 2011-08-13 04:36
Check his transcript from Texas A & M, if you want to know how really dumb he is. He is a seriously flawed arrogant person. As the national media babbles about him being in the running for president, it is apparent they haven't a clue as to who this person really is. Do your homework everyone!
+48 # CenTexDem 2011-08-13 04:50
Ask any Central Texas farmer along I-10 about Perry's TransTexas Corridor that would have been the franchise of a foreign company that would have broken up farms and communities and small businesses and cost Texan motorists dearly and his so-called economic development grant commission privately gave millions to companies owned by his larger individual political contributors.
As to his environmental and energy policy, Perry accepted huge sums of political contributions connected from out of state coal companies which resulted in dirty coal being the primary fuel powering our electric plants causing Texas adjoining states billions of dollars in health care costs due to air pollution and poisoning our waterways, streams, and estuaries with mercury thanks to a fraudulent state policy of allowing dirty old stacks to continue polluting if new stacks had a net reduction effect and there is a case to be made that these coal plants have contributed to the most pervasive and damaging state wide drought in decades destroying our Texas agricultural economy, second in importance only to our oil and gas industry.
+22 # in deo veritas 2011-08-13 07:51
I hope people will read this post and other like it and not blame ALL Texans for what the Repuke Party has done to them in the interest of the corporate fascists.
+6 # Cath 2011-08-13 09:53
How 'bout MOST Texans . . . you keep electing these guys and then trying to get them out of the state by having them run for president . . .
+13 # Wotan 2011-08-13 14:10
rita....very well stated. Perry is speaking
to his flock of sheep who are waiting to be
herded to slaughter. He might be a decent
candidate if he was not so stupid. It would
be difficult to upstage Dubya, but I think he could do it. Actually, I don't think he
can read well enough to interpret the Constitution.
+15 # Wotan 2011-08-13 14:14
I know that all Texans are not of the
Repuke Party, as you have so aptly named
them. My best friend lives in Richardson
and he abhors Perry and his ilk.
+3 # CommonSense 2011-08-14 11:40
well, we 'smart set' out to know what 4o% of the electorate under our current system means... approximately nothing.
+1 # michelle 2011-08-14 11:45
Quoting in deo veritas:
I hope people will read this post and other like it and not blame ALL Texans for what the Repuke Party has done to them in the interest of the corporate fascists.

Agreed! Keeping the people divided into two camps, us and them, makes it easier for the corporatists to maintain control. If we don't dialogue with each other, we are in a world of trouble. It is difficult when we are so far apart ideologically. I don't know where to start but I do know divide and conquer has worked well for the top 2%.
+12 # michelle 2011-08-14 11:47
I also like to remember that Bill Moyers and Molly Ivins are from Texas.
+3 # karenvista 2011-08-15 20:45
Quoting michelle:
I also like to remember that Bill Moyers and Molly Ivins are from Texas.

Molly also, very wisely, said-"the Texas Legislature meets for 142 days every 2 years. We'd be better off if they met for 2 days every 142 years."

And that's a fact because that's the only time the Governor works too.
+33 # CenTexDem 2011-08-13 04:51
Perry has failed to promote the use of domestic gas production as a clean fuel for our power plants which policy would create lasting good jobs, increase needed state government revenues, and clean our air to the point that Texas could start shipping its natural gas fired electricity out of state instead of its energy dollars for coal.
Let's not forget that Perry hypocritically accepted through the back door millions of federal stimulus dollars and still drove up huge "deficits" causing recent teacher layoffs and lack of college funding because he gave huge property tax breaks to the rich and corporations without providing alternative taxation to compensative for lost government revenue needed to fund the state's budget and its essential needs.
+30 # GeeRob 2011-08-13 10:20
Anyone who is curious about Perry should google the name Cameron Todd Willingham, who was executed in 2004 for the deaths of his 3 children in what was "determined" to be arson. When questions arose from the Texas Forensic Science Commission about possible junk science being used in determining the cause of the fire as arson, Perry refused to reappoint 3 of the commission's most vocal members. It is a very real possibility that Cameron Todd Willingham was executed for a crime he did not commit. And it's also a real probability that Perry decided to bury any evidence that such a travesty took place.
+29 # angelfish 2011-08-13 11:14
He recently allowed another inmate to be killed WITHOUT allowing the man to have his DNA tested which might have resulted in proof of his Innocence! Seems like he LIKES to pull the plug on people WITHOUT being TOTALLY sure of their guilt! What a PIG!
+13 # jon 2011-08-13 19:56
This from a man who claims to be called by God?

Maybe Rick should go back and read the Beatitudes, amongst which is stated, "Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive Mercy."
+4 # OMG 2011-08-14 16:43
That's a good christian for ya. Pathetic.
+35 # CenTexDem 2011-08-13 04:52
Let's also not forget that most of the so-called Texas "job creation" that Perry loves to take personal credit for was due to GOP enabled speculative pressure on oil prices, Obama's stimulus funding, and that most of the jobs "created" in Texas were low skilled and low paying jobs.
Perry needlessly privatized our state prisons built at taxpayer cost that has become a cottage industry in Texas meaning that the private operators need to have them filled to make more profit which needlessly criminalizes too many Texans with great harm to taxpayers and families.
+39 # CenTexDem 2011-08-13 04:53
Rick Perry failed to invest in the education of our children which is the future of Texas has resulted in the highest high school drop out rate in the nation and to invest in programs like WIC, CHIPS, and drug treatment programs and health programs that save taxpayers huge sums by avoiding the costs caused by failure to provide such programs.
Perry used bonds to fund highway projects that are supposed to be "pay as you go" projects funded by gasoline taxes. Perry loves the concept of having taxpayer dollars build toll roads and then let private interests buy them for perpetual private profit.
+32 # CenTexDem 2011-08-13 04:56
Perry says God is "calling him" but he does not seem to hear God's call to be a good steward of God's creation, especially of our air, water and our children's health and education. Hopefully, with God's help, the media will call Perry out on his failed and flawed stewardship of Texas that does not bode well for our nation should he be elected to the highest office in the land.
+20 # in deo veritas 2011-08-13 07:54
Perry is hearing the voice of the Koch Bros and all those who worship money. They will get their reward.
+7 # jon 2011-08-13 20:00
I would not want to meet our Maker, in their shoes.

But, of course, that is the last thing on their minds. They use such rhetoric to manipulate the weak for their own immediate carnal needs -- MONEY, got to have MORE, MORE, MORE!!!!!
+4 # CenTexDem 2011-08-13 04:58
Did Benjamin Franklin and George Washington have private health insurance policies?
+11 # Jim Batchelor 2011-08-13 08:19
Did they have oil wells?
+2 # CommonSense 2011-08-14 11:43
Funny how folks back then didn't claim to have 'G*d' whispering in their ear all the time, either.
+17 # anonymot 2011-08-13 05:57
Technically, the Federal Reserve is also illegal. Does he want to eliminate that, too?
+2 # CommonSense 2011-08-14 12:11
Exactly, but that would (in politico world anyway) be cutting into Ron Paul's territory- which is mostly what the Perry '12 thing is all about.
Anyone who's not-with-stupid in Tx. (and as I implied above that may be 40-sth. percent) knows that Perry has grown, increasingly, into Bankster's false prophet bait.

Oh, and its not "a techinicality". Article 2 clearly states that Congress shall have the right/power/dut y to coin money- not 'Congress shall aborogat this fundamental duty unto a [actually "the"] international currency syndicate gang'- at 8% interest, ultimately compounding up to $900bn. per year, in service fees for such Plutocrats, since of course, They are so much more clever than us.

There's no shortage of UNCONSTITUTIONA L acts and so-called laws these days- like leaves on a tree. But the main trunk from which the branches & twigs spring is Congress' failure to safeguard OUR USA money supply from private/usuriou s usurpers. Once the globo-privateer s are in charge of the currency in a place like America, everthing else from there is proverbial 'foxes guarding the chicken coup'. It doens't have to be that way, and indeed is not supposed to be that way.
Have the courage of your convictions!
+1 # karenvista 2011-08-15 20:51
It doesn't have to be that way and it isn't in the state of North Dakota.

They have their own bank, low interest rates (with the profit going to the state) and they didn't participate in our default or mortgage meltdown since their bank funds mortgages in their state.
+31 # Barbara K 2011-08-13 05:59
Definitely not Presidential material. We want a president who looks after our interests, not one out to take away our rights and destroy our lives. He's such a typical Republibagger. All for themselves, nothing for the citizens. They got theirs, now they want ours. The Rs have been trying to kill Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid for decades, they always hated it, even when their own grandparents depend on it. NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN !!
+30 # Homer Peters 2011-08-13 06:09
"Slick" Perry....about as dumb as the last Texas guv to become Prez.
+16 # Interested Observer 2011-08-13 09:05
He makes Bush look like real statesman.
+37 # Glen 2011-08-13 06:52
Better take this seriously. The thirty thousand or so people at his gathering were taking it all seriously and there are thousands more throughout the country who have been sucked into resenting the government to the point they would sacrifice their own well being to eliminate programs that benefit everyone they know.

Never underestimate the militancy of many religious folks in the U.S. and their "leaders". They have taken over entire communities, including the schools. I live near such a community.
+24 # in deo veritas 2011-08-13 07:58
The general public needs to realize that these imbeciles are their enemies and deal with them as such. They are the enemy of everything this country has stood for since its inception. They defile and desecrate the graves of all those who have fought against the tyranny and fascism that is once again seeking to crush freedom and humanity.
+18 # Dick Huopana 2011-08-13 08:21
Glen, I agree that we should take such
people seriously. They surely voted to re-elect George W. Bush to a second term.
+22 # Interested Observer 2011-08-13 09:07
Elect, not re-elect. In 2000 he not elected, but selected.
+9 # Dick Huopana 2011-08-13 14:35
Thanks for correcting my memory lapse about 2000. My point remains, though, about those who voted for a 2nd term for Bush - knowing he was fiscally irresponsible and impeachable/ind ictable for his first-term actions.
+14 # Regina 2011-08-13 17:19
W wasn't elected in 2004 either. Ohio was the finagling state then, not Florida. Now the Republibrats are agitating in every state with one of their operatives as governor to hamstring voting rights so that likely Democratic voters are blocked -- Wisconsin and Ohio are just two of that ilk.
+2 # TrueAmericanPatriot 2011-08-14 19:35
Quoting Regina:
W wasn't elected in 2004 either. Ohio was the finagling state then, not Florida. Now the Republibrats are agitating in every state with one of their operatives as governor to hamstring voting rights so that likely Democratic voters are blocked -- Wisconsin and Ohio are just two of that ilk.

You are so right, Regina. I live in Ohio, so I KNOW what has been said is TRUE.
+4 # karenvista 2011-08-15 20:56
I think Perry's bunch are called Apostolic Prophets and they are Dominionists! Their goal is to take over the "Seven Mountains of Society."
They include all social and religious interactions but a definite goal is to take over government and institute their laws, based on the Old Testament. They are a terrifying bunch!
+13 # Meriam 2011-08-13 07:42
Excuse me but wasn't the secession of a state one of the issues of the Civil War? I thought the answer to that was NO you cannot secede - although maybe a special exception should be made for Texas.
+11 # Interested Observer 2011-08-13 09:10
I am writing my congressional representatives to introduce a bill on that very point to be titled the "Don't Let The Door Hit You on the Ass On Your Way Out Act of 2011".
+13 # Night Raider 2011-08-13 08:02
Perry's presidential candidacy will be short-lived after the rest of the nation gets reports on what he is really all about. Hair today and gone tomorrow!

+19 # jon 2011-08-13 08:27
Once again:

I think Rick Perry should be informed that Our Dearly Beloved Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, is, and always has been, a liberal.

The first time He was aware that He was a liberal, was when He turned over the tables of the money-changers in the Temple, it just happens that "liberal" was what the admonished money-changers called Him.

And if you think otherwise, it is because you are under the influence of the devil!
+11 # Interested Observer 2011-08-13 09:12
And more than that, the early Christians were also communists (in a pure and non-Marxist sense) living communally with minimal private property, walking their talk about treasure in heaven unlike our present day hypocrites such as "Media Executive" Pat Robertson who preach Christ and serve Mammon.
+17 # historywriter 2011-08-13 10:47
Early Christians bore little resemblance to current Christians. They did live communally and simply, they practiced equality, including for women who also their services in each others' houses. They were not interested in money and power, and had serious doubts about the Resurrection. They had some odd beliefs for that era (but so do we), but I particularly appreciated that their main tenet was to follow in Jesus's steps.
Of course, they lost out to the people interested in money and power. And who managed to scare them with talk of hell and damnation.
-1 # Faith Cory 2011-08-13 08:51
Johnno, all I can say is we are getting down to no choices at all. Ron Paul is looking better and better.
Love you,
+11 # GeeRob 2011-08-13 09:52
Ron Paul is every bit as dangerous as Perry.
+6 # TrueAmericanPatriot 2011-08-14 19:42
Quoting GeeRob:
Ron Paul is every bit as dangerous as Perry.

Ron Paul is a "Trojan Horse" version of Rick Perry.
+4 # michelle 2011-08-14 22:34
All women should avoid Ron Paul with his anti-choice position. The rest of us should watch and learn from the Iowa straw poll. He pandered heavily to the GOPTPers. Trojan Horse is so right (no pun).
+16 # grannym 2011-08-13 09:21
This man should be strung up by his balls! How stupid is the TExas electorate to keep him in the governor's mansion?!!!
+1 # jon 2011-08-13 20:24
If a populace is very easy to understand, then, of course, they are very easily manipulated.

Simple equals manipulable.

A majority of Texans therefore, are simple.

Simple equals either dumb, or maybe thinking with their endocrine system,
+15 # grannym 2011-08-13 09:22
Actually, Perry looks and talks a lot like a previous idiot Texas governor.
+12 # fredboy 2011-08-13 09:41
Perry is a egomaniac redneck. A travesty. A disgrace. Let him even visit the White House and our nation is in peril.
+16 # InSouthChicago 2011-08-13 10:15
In a comment I submitted to and was published by the New York Time, I suggested that the IQ of the Republican Presidential field would drop dramatically and that Mr. Perry was running only to make Michelle Bachmann look sane by comparison. My comment was intended to be nothing but pure sarcasm. However, reading this and another recent article about Perry's religious beliefs, I have come to believe that what was originally intended to be a sarcastic comment was more truthful and accurate than I could have imagined.
+9 # GeeRob 2011-08-13 11:06
Perry only 'came to Jesus' when he decided to enter the race and knew the fundamentalists would adore him. Atleast Bachmann's fundamentalism, although quite scary, is sincere. Rick Perry is the ultimate False Prophet.
+7 # jon 2011-08-13 20:29
Bachmann's fundamentalism is anything but sincere. She is an ultimate political animal and will use ALL of the subterfuge she can connive to attain as much firewood and meat piled up in her cave that she can - poor little insecure baby female. THAT is what she is really all about.
+17 # Bracero 2011-08-13 11:18
You better take Perry's candidacy very seriously. You laughed at Bush and got two terms of him. Perry plays to the same groups Bush did but even more so. Perry has no shame. He will play to the Bible belt, the ultra conservatives and the tea partiers. Perry is going to be the Republican candidate while you are laughing at him and he will be in the White House because the Democrats will run Obama against him and Perry will beat him like a drum.
The Democrats have lost the trust of the middle class as has Obama. The Democrats don't seem to understand that fact. They are living in a fantasy world. They continue to back Obama but the people have abandoned them and will not show up at the poles. The 2012 election will be a low turn out election.
Perry and his strong group of evangelicals,ul tra conservtives and tea partiers will show up at the poles and win the election. I hate to tell you this but this is exactly what is going to happen. Just keep laughing soon you will be weeping.
+5 # jon 2011-08-13 20:41
Bracero, you have it right!

The silver lining in that cloud is that congress might very well swing back to a Democratic majority - not that that will do us much good, because whoever the next republican president is, he will almost certainly run rough shod over everybody and everything that he can, like we hoped Obama would and then namby-pamby'd OUT!

And, just wait and see, even with a democratic majority, the repubs united, obdurate front will stymy anything GOOD from happening, such as overcoming a republican presidential veto - forget it. Dems these days are almost as much a wholly owned subsidiary of corporations as their unabashedly fascist counterparts on the other side of the aisle.
+2 # Dona Quixote 2011-08-14 16:33
Bracero-Perry-i sh the thought?! If they elect either Perry or Bachmann I console myself that I have another country on another continent awaiting me. I really wish Obama (OBombO) would announce-by Aug 22, that he is stepping down so the poor Dems could run someone like Sanders or Kucinich or Alan Grayson-or some of the other members who have been outspoken. A real Progressive has a theoretical chance of being elected, although the ReThugs are changing the voting laws to make it harder for young students and older or poorer voters to vote, the people who are more likely to vote Democratic. Sadly I don't think the downhill slide I have witnessed for most of my life will be reversed.
0 # mad 2011-08-17 00:18
then we have to protect the vote from those who want to keep folks from voting by throwing up requirements for paper id's an such. we have to keep at obama, i know it just feels worse and worse, but the phrase 'make me do it' seems to require that we get together bigger than the t.p.ers as in all power to the wisconsonians
+15 # labman57 2011-08-13 12:07
Most conservatives and tea party folks would love to turn the clock back 100+ years on middle class America, the poor, and the elderly.

If corporate shills such as Perry had their way, all labor unions would be banned and all federal and state labor laws regulating workplace conditions -- including child labor laws -- would be repealed. Workers' comp, overtime, paid vacation, health benefits, sick days, pension funds, minimum wage, etc. ... all would be distant memories.

Corporations would be free to pollute the air, land, and water at will without fear of repercussion from any federal agencies.

Only members of the upper class would be able to send their children to college, and relatively few middle income earners would be able to purchase their own houses.

And of course, the elderly would need to fend for themselves since those who were unable to afford medical care or financially survive stock market crashes would be destitute.

And on a side note, public schools would only be allowed to teach science concepts that did not conflict with Christian dogma or the allegories of the Bible.
-18 # Eric Abercrombie 2011-08-13 12:23
The key words in the constitution to consider here are not so much "general welfare" but the words "United States". Doesn't the constitution make a clear distinction between the "people" of the United States and the "United States"? I believe the founding Fathers were referring to the defense of our nation...and that's it. If they meant social programs, then why did they deny even subsidies to farmers who were in need back then? Because they knew it was not the government's role to take taxpayer's hard earned money and give it to their neighbors. That's called a tyrannical government, which is what they were trying to get away from when they declared independence from England. That's why they made a separation of church and state, because they believed it was the role of the church and other charity organizations to take care of such needs, not the government's. They knew that if the government got involved in doing charity that it would be outright abused and sadly they were right, it has. Let me ask you folks which is better, "give a man a fish and feed him for a day OR teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime?" Seriously, which is better? If you say to feed a man for a lifetime, then you have to admit social welfare programs are not the solution, because they only temporarily feed people. I'm all for improving our education, but let's stop giving people everything!
-5 # jon 2011-08-13 19:02
There are christian fundamentalists , and there are moslem fundamentalists , and as Eric so capably demonstrates, there are constitutional fundamentalists .
+5 # Bruce Hayden 2011-08-13 19:02
So this means I get all my social security money back right??
+8 # chick 2011-08-14 00:18
Sorry Eric you are wrong.
We the peole it starts, We are the important word.
We in order to form a more perfect union,
We to establish justice, we to provide for the common defence, we TO PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE, we to secure the blesings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity. Do establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

The people are what make the United States. Without them there is no United States. If you keep the people healthy and safe you will have a great country if you do not take care of your people you are a Dictatorship country and that is exactly what the Republican party want.

The heck with the people and only the rich and powerful to run the country. That is not a We the people country. That is not what our founding fathers wanteed or meant.
+7 # chick 2011-08-14 00:23
One more thing. your quoting from the bible is ------
Since the Republicans want to do away with the Public schools how would they teach a man to do anything. All they want are workers without any rights.
Their kids of course will go to college and be just as greedy as they are.

The Republican party want to ruin our country. As long as they keep all their money they can always go somewhere else, so they really do not give a hoot for our United States.
+6 # mjc 2011-08-14 15:02
One of the very first squabbles was when the United States was governed under the Articles of Confederation There was a dispute over crossing state lines, Massachusetts in particular, with corn liquor to sell in the next state(s). Shays Rebellion was the result. It was put down but it became clear that a stronger FEDERAL government was needed to solve interstate commerce. Our "forefathers" knew very well how important taxes were to the welfare of the nation.
-1 # d julien 2011-08-14 16:44
I hope you are just as concerned about welfare for rich individuals and rich corporations but you don't seem to mention that....
0 # mad 2011-08-17 00:22
can we please stop giving those "people" the corporations and banks everything first?
+1 # BishopAndrew 2011-08-13 12:46
Well if the Appeaser in chief cannot "draw a line in the sand" on this one there is no hope for him, or us! this is wonderful gift to the Democrats but what you want to bet Obama wont take him for saying it!
+11 # shesap 2011-08-13 13:02
omigosh I just watched his announcement and he comes off like a smooth, handsome politician who cares about you....all emotional rhetoric, smiley face, wink ..a male Sarah Palin. And the dummies will LOVE him...move over Romney and Bachman, the savior has come. Too bad he's even dumber than Bush!
+2 # ericlipps 2011-08-13 13:36
No, Texas cannot legally secede, though the USA might be better off if it could.

Show me where in the Constitution it says that a state can just opt out. The Constitution provides procedures for adding states, but owhere for one to secede.
+1 # bobby t. 2011-08-13 13:40
ok, now it is clear. the republicans are so scary and outrageous that they want obama to be president again so that they don't get the blame for what is going to happen.and to fight against using racism.
+7 # Isar 2011-08-13 14:03
Why are we even interested in what Rick Perry thinks or says? He is the Governor of Texas!!! Do we really want to consider ANOTHER Texas Govenor for President of the USA? Are the American People so blind that they don't see the danger in giving Rick Perry a platform...a guy who pedals his Conservative Christian religion the way he would pedal snake oil if it were still legal to sell....A guy who wants Texas to separate itself from the UNION...and beomce it's own country....A guy who surrounds himself with serious cuckoo-bird Christian leaders that even most sensible Christians are ashamed to give any credence. WHY must the media give ANY TIME to Rick Perry? HE's a joke. He's a freak show entertainment. If he is the best thing that Texas has to offer, then we should really consider allowing Texas to secede. Rick Perry is as bad if not worse than George Dubya!!! Pah-leeeeeze!!! ! Let's get a little serious here...even about the Republican candidates.
-4 # OMG 2011-08-14 17:01
The best thing to offer from Texas is Ron Paul!
+4 # smarly 2011-08-13 15:31
Wouldn't Texas be a foreign country if they seceded, and Rick Perry a non U.S. citizen? That would mean he couldn't run for President and we wouldn't have to listen to that drivel anymore. Bye, Bye, Texas, we won't miss you!
+11 # Skanner Constant 2011-08-13 16:29
Gov.Perry is delusional - and check out the polls among his own constituents - 79% of them (all parties) don't approve of the way he does his job, and wouldn't vote for him again. What else can you say of a man who believes that Separation of Church and State is unconstitutiona l?
+9 # StormyB4 2011-08-13 16:55
Wether or not it's constitutional or not is irrelevant at this point. Social security and medicare are contracts that people paid into and the government is obligated to abide by it. If the government hadn't stolen the trust fund money, the programs financial problems wouldn't exist. social security and medicare funds were supposed to be seperate from the governments operating budget. Politically, this statement may bury Rick Perry. I don't neccessarily disagree with it fundamentally, but these programs would be solvent and fully funded if congress hadn't raped them. These programs are not the cause of our financial problems
+6 # Bruce Hayden 2011-08-13 19:09
It's the military budget (including the several 'black budgets') with these totally insane wars that have crippled us. If the CIA would just chip in a bit from the drug profits that might show some patriotism.
This country is financially and morally bankrupt. It's almost Road Warrior time!
+2 # Winker 2011-08-13 18:14
This stooge needs an enema with a firehose then a brain transplant from an ant. That will increase his intellegent level 100%.
+5 # Smilinglady 2011-08-13 20:44
Jean Goodrich
Earlier times claimed Welfare and Aid to Dependent Children were the culprits creating a financial shortage in our Federal Operating budget. Once those programs were slashed, Americans realized not one red cent in their paychecks, their pockets or their communities. In fact, money to the communities began drying up. No matter how much is cut from the bottom....regul ar folk and those in need, the 'saved' money will only land at the top. This is our trickle up theory at work.
+5 # ANTI-CON 2011-08-13 21:14
I noted that many of the MSM talking heads are gushing over Perry and comparing him to G.W. Bush,.. my God, if I Perry being compared to Bush, the guy that all but drove this country into economic ruin,I think I'd contemplate suicide or at the very least crawl under a big rock in Texas and hide,.. come to think of it, isn't that exactly what Bush has done, wonder if Perry made note of that fact?......... Hey Rick,.. just saying.
-1 # chick 2011-08-14 00:29
It is not MSM gushing over Perry but Faux. Get the facts straight.
+1 # ANTI-CON 2011-08-15 09:59
Quoting chick:
It is not MSM gushing over Perry but Faux. Get the facts straight.


Well..FYI,.. I don't bother watching Fixed News because it's just an extension of the GOP and pure Right Wing propaganda machine 24/7.

That said I've seen a good many MSM guest and there PAID CONTRIBUTORS lately almost acting like the Fox News GOPhers pushing all of Perrys alleged attributes and that's a FACT JACK so don't get on me for just making an observation,... . GOT IT???
-10 # MT 2011-08-13 21:16
promote the general welfare, it says to promote the genral welfare, not provide, it says to provide for the common defense. you liberal unemployed freeloaders should try working, you have way too much time on your hands. and your golden child wil be hitting the bricks next november and you know.
+1 # chick 2011-08-14 00:34
And what do you think promote means. Give a medal to it. Give it a higher what?
It starts with we the people and when it says promote it means take care of we the people.
+5 # Glen 2011-08-14 05:28
Lately, MT, I have had a number of conversations about cliches, propaganda, and all things related to American behavior. You just proved the point that most of what Americans offer, especially so called republicans, is cliche and stereotypes.

I'm sure you have noticed that there is no party affiliation mentioned when there are big layoffs, such as with the post office layoff of 120,000 people, or on unemployment roles. Everyone is in this together. Stop letting the entertainers running this country keep us all divided.
+1 # Oligarch 23 2011-08-14 16:44
MT, thank you so much for taking our side on this! It is already so much more of an Upstairs, Downstairs world than the citizens think.Naturally they dwell 'downstairs' and with increased 'austerity' for their own 'good' they -and you unless you are one of us-will be living in starker conditions while we Oligarchs will continue our upward flight,living far better, keeping ever more of of the pie, while the serfs and peasants fight over the crumbs! You can already see your new society taking shape-they don't call it Reality TV for no reason! We thank you for your loyalty to our interests even in the face of your own impoverishment. Bravo!
+3 # Italics Mine 2011-08-14 07:18
Why is anyone shocked that Big Ricky hasn't read the Constitution either. Wasn't it Bush the Younger that called it just an old scrap of paper?
+1 # Glen 2011-08-16 05:56
Bush called the Constitution "a goddamn piece of paper". Nice.
+6 # in deo veritas 2011-08-14 09:04
Like any of the other would-be "sawdust Caesars" Perry has no respect for the Constitution OR the people. He is backed by the same lousy oil barons and other neofascists who foistered Bush on us. We cannot let them do it again. In the picture it appears that this twit is trying to imitate Reagan-gun and all.
+1 # JoshAcid 2011-08-14 12:26
You know they're going to keep doing it every 4 years- if not every 3, 2, or 1- until We the People take back the money power and financial puppet strings of this curreny, economy, and society.

Why curse the Wizard of Oz every day when when we could instead be expendeing the same amount of energy to SOLVE the problem and (grannym's above recommendation aside) OUTGROW money politics forever?

Sounds like some kind of dream world? Check out the work of Ellen Brown and Bill Still. Its as real (and contitutional) as the nose on your face.
+6 # Wolfy 2011-08-14 13:20
REF: Social Security, Nedicare/Medicade.
I'm a disabled Vietnam Veteran living only on SSDI, I am also covered by medicare/Medica de. I'm sure there are many Texans in this same situation and may not care for thier Governors stance on THIS/These isues. As for me, Govenor Perry, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT TOUCHING WHAT I FOUGHT FOR AND EARNED!
and people please, stop the insults and name colling and changing the subject. The Subject(s) is/are: Social Security, Medicare/Medica de.
Thank You
+2 # mjc 2011-08-14 14:54
Rick Perry and Michelle Bachman represent just a few of the uneducated, illiterate, seat of the pants type practitioners of politics. They join Romney who views corporations as "just folks", like you and me. Where do these nut-cases come from? I wonder if the Democratic Party is funding their campaigns in order to insure Obama's re-election.
+3 # wrodwell 2011-08-14 15:10
Just what the country needs, another president from Texas. Let's look at the history. LBJ: The Vietnam War, which divided the nation and cost a fortune in economic and human terms; G.W. Bush: the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq which have bled the country dry economically and otherwise; and now Rick Perry who, if elected, will declare war on America itself. Solution: How about a constitutional amendment to kick Texas out of the union? (Even Perry himself has flirted with secession.) Geez, I've never seen such a situation before where the US political landscape is so littered with and infested by cockroach-like idiots and buffoons. Greatest country in the world? By what standard?
+13 # Jane Lenoir 2011-08-14 17:32
"I dearly love the state of Texas, but I consider that a harmless perversion on my part, and discuss it only with consenting adults."

"Next time I tell you someone from Texas should not be president of the United States, please pay attention."

- Molly Ivins
0 # Roy 2011-08-14 20:35
He's got to be trying to deliberately shoot himself in the foot with such comments. He'll soon be joining Tim Pawlenty as a drop out.
+2 # futhark 2011-08-15 05:26
RE: The picture

From Arma Virumque by Ambrose Bierce

"For somewhat lamely the conception runs
Of a brass-buttoned Jesus firing guns."
+3 # boudreaux 2011-08-15 11:28
For all of your comments this man may seem very stupid but he ain't he is working on the christians fisrt and then telling gun owners what they want to hear and now he wants to put the confederate flag on the state lic. plate here. Now what does that tell you about this peice of shit, that he will say anything for a vote???? You damned right he will and turn anywhere the money is...he has no soul, makes me ashamed I'm from TX.....
-7 # Robt Eagle 2011-08-15 13:45
Eric Abercrombie, Thank you! Some one on this site who actually understands that the government is not designed to be a charitable organization. No one on this site seems to want to take responsibility for their own selves, they want government to be responsible. WRONG...take away incentive to achieve more than anyone else and the country will be just a bunch of mediocre non-productive whiners who want it given to them just for being born. And they will vote for more freebies. Take responsibility for your own self and your own actions or lack of action. Once the government controls everything it will control you.
0 # todd williams 2011-08-15 14:07
I have only two words to say about this mess we've allowed to get ourselves into: Costa Rica! I'm outa here. American now is not what I was taught it was supposed to be. It sucks and I'm bummed out big time.
+4 # David Starr 2011-08-15 15:02
First, Perry/the Repubs, etc., have become increasingly transparent in showing their true colors, i.e., blatantly prioritizing the rich few in their extreme zeal to aquire even more wealth (How much is enough?)with the inevitable consequence of intensifying the struggle of the many.

But, getting off topic a little, I feel compelled to give feedback relating to comments by a Mr. Abercrombie regarding the role of government. Abercrombie asserts that the term general welfare in the U.S. constitution means defense of the nation and that's it. Well, no, that's not it. Included in the preamble are the terms: provide for the common defense AND promote the general welfare. Two separate terms, the first being obviously connected to Abercrombie's assertion. The second? Look at the word general. It strongly implies the general population, or the people. And the word welfare? A strong implication in support and protection of basic rights.

I'm not implying that the U.S. founders were socialists.(But so what if they were?) They apparently focused on elite interests based on property ownership, race and gender, while paradoxically acknowledging the rights of the people. AND, of course, they were sometimes wrong (denial of subsidies to farmers?). And thus the imperfection of the U.S. constitution; still a work in progress.
+1 # Abigail 2011-08-15 15:38
+3 # Bill Clements 2011-08-16 14:43
Keep that ignorance of yours flowing, Rick Perry. Political self-immolation is well under way. In fact, isn't that smoke leaking out around your collar?
0 # warbaby 2011-08-26 08:20
Another blowhole puppet.This man is just as dangerous to Americans as is Soetero. Wake up people.

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