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Intro: "The chatter about Michele Bachmann's husband's sexuality is spreading. Michelle Cottle on how it could affect a candidate whose Christian beliefs are central to her campaign."

Michele and husband Marcus Bachmann on the campaign trail in Waterloo, Iowa, 06/27/11. (photo: Charlie Neibergall/AP)
Michele and husband Marcus Bachmann on the campaign trail in Waterloo, Iowa, 06/27/11. (photo: Charlie Neibergall/AP)

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+62 # CB 2011-07-17 11:00
Maybe, just maybe, forcing gays to procreate just creates more little gays? LOL
It will be fitting when Mr & Mrs. Michele reach the pearly gates and St. Pete sends them downstairs, that then they'll finally realize that God is Gay and She's not at all happy with their attitude.
+67 # Gus St. Anthony 2011-07-17 11:12
Who cares? There are much more important aspects of Bachmann's political positin that this dirty laundry drivvel. Bachmann and war profiteering, for instance.
+108 # Marjee 2011-07-17 12:55
What I find offensive about Marcus Bachmann is he is not a real Medical Doctor he has no degree. But he used the false premise to take almost 200K from the federal government. Michelle rants and raves about people getting money from the government think of all she and her hubby have taken from the federal government as well as from the state. And it is disgusting that a person who is gay makes all kind of discouraging remarks about the self same situation they are in. There's nothing wrong with being gay it is the hypocristy and denying it and making money on the denial that is very very disgusting. But then who thinks Bachmann is nothing more than disgusting herself.
+44 # historywriter 2011-07-17 17:39
She is also getting a substantial sum of money from the federal government to subsidize the family farm--over $200,000 a year. She says that that's family money, not hers. makes no difference.
+10 # ALinSTL 2011-07-18 03:44
+13 # ALinSTL 2011-07-18 03:54
+6 # NanFan 2011-07-18 04:31
Quoting Marjee:
What I find offensive about Marcus Bachmann is he is not a real Medical Doctor he has no degree. But he used the false premise to take almost 200K from the federal government. Michelle rants and raves about people getting money from the government think of all she and her hubby have taken from the federal government as well as from the state. And it is disgusting that a person who is gay makes all kind of discouraging remarks about the self same situation they are in. There's nothing wrong with being gay it is the hypocristy and denying it and making money on the denial that is very very disgusting. But then who thinks Bachmann is nothing more than disgusting herself.

Right on!

+6 # RSJ 2011-07-19 02:29
While you're right, Marjee, Bachmann's true crimes are her massive hypocrisy on gov't subsidies, practicing the Christian faith, and her manifest ignorance on the Constitution and this country's history. But I expect a male prostitute will emerge one of these days with lurid tales of drugs and sex with Marcus, ala Ted Haggard. Of course, her base, even if Marcus admits his gay dalliances, will forgive him, but any chance she had of running for president in the general election will be gone, unfortunately due to the perverse US media obsession with sexuality rather than her lack of qualifications for the presidency.
+5 # NanFan 2011-07-18 04:29
Quoting Gus St. Anthony:
Who cares? There are much more important aspects of Bachmann's political positin that this dirty laundry drivvel. Bachmann and war profiteering, for instance.

Exactly right, but if this is true (and I truly do not care if this man is gay; it's a non-issue in general, as far as I'm concerned), then, it is indicative of the purest form of hypocrisy that is about as anti-Christian or any other religious or spiritual thought as it can be! Now THAT concerns me.

If this husband of a woman who is looking to run the country is lying about his sexuality while gay-bashing, then, that is more than likely their modus operendi for all things, and that is what we will get in the White House if Bachmann is elected.

I, for one, do not want another hypocrite running our country. I'm sick to death of NO ONE in government walking like s/he talks.

Tell the truth...dare I say...for heaven's sake! I do not care if this rabid evangelical man is gay, but I do care that he openly and unflinchingly bashes gays, using the Bible the Bachmanns purport to "live by" and supposedly have been "called" to serve the country by. Oy! What about the real issues, Bachmanns? Time for some reality, please.

Come out, come out...whoever you are.

+29 # oldleftie 2011-07-17 11:26
I dunno. I think you're ignoring the point that Marcus can make, namely that he's "prayed away" his gay, and that he has successfully resisted the urge to satisfy his proclivity. I don't think it will make one bit of difference unless some man comes forward and testifies to an assignation. This is not the way we're going to promote our agenda.
+23 # billy bob 2011-07-17 16:16
Whenever I hear about "praying away the gay", I'm always reminded of that old song from South Pacific (?):

"I'm gonna wash that man right out of my hair..." ("I'm gonna pray that gay right out of my hair...")

I think a big musical number with lavish production values would be just the thing to get through to all those people who think it's something that can be "cured".
+7 # rf 2011-07-18 06:05
I can see it now on SNL!
+6 # RSJ 2011-07-19 02:39
In college in the '60s, Psyche 101 class covered the pathology of the latent homosexual who publicly denigrated gays at every opportunity and bragged on how 'straight' he was. This obsession with homosexuality was often joined to extreme religious fervor and the notion that being gay was a choice that was a 'temptation of the devil' and could be eradicated by praying to Jesus. Perhaps they don't teach that Introduction to Psychology in college anymore, but Marcus Bachmann is a textbook case.
+52 # Pickwicky 2011-07-17 11:33
What is most needful for the Religious Right is the reinstitution of the grand old tradition of throwing Christians to the Lions. It's the only thing that will satisfy their longing for martyrdom--poli tics is only a weak substitute.
+28 # BishopAndrew 2011-07-17 14:53
Is that not cruelty to the animals!
+8 # Pickwicky 2011-07-18 12:33
Your Grace, Bishop Andrew:

Point taken! Must use animatronic lions in keeping with the fake species of Christianity.

+5 # RSJ 2011-07-19 02:41
Don't feed them to the lions -- just make them memorize the Sermon on the Mount.
+15 # rm 2011-07-18 06:53
Pickwicky -- well, the throwing christians to the lions was only the first phase, when Christians had now power and Rome was officially pagan. When Christians took over, they instituted a global torture regime for all those who were not christian.

I've been to several Torture Museums in Europe and seen many contraptions, wood cuts, drawings, and documents about the inquisition. There was always a strange connection between sexuality and possession by the devil. Often the torture was directed at the genitals or anus.

The obsession with sexuality and the desire to torture people for their sexuality seems to be the phase some christians are still in. The torture in the war on terror really does come from the christian control of the US government.
+6 # Pickwicky 2011-07-18 12:27
RM reports that "Often the torture was directed at the genitals or anus." Yes, RM, there is considerable evidence that religious zealots think sex and poop are one and the same thing!
+52 # Arthur Cohen 2011-07-17 11:50
You miss the point. Of course being attacked only reinforces her victimhood and that of her followers, and nothing will change her beliefs and the facts that for her follow those beliefs. What I want to see is her ridiculed to the point where she is no longer a public figure with a public platform, and can no longer have any impact on the body politic. And exposure of this kind might just achieve that goal.
+3 # BishopAndrew 2011-07-19 05:44
Arthur, you are totally correct and if we can do this to the rest of the Tea Party Nut Cases we will have done a great service to our Republic!
+59 # BishopAndrew 2011-07-17 11:56
The article is spot on in many respects. The so called "evangelicals" who would make Chairman Mao's "cultural cadres" pale by comparison do indeed love to cite Scripture and in so doing prove the veracity of the line from "To Kill A Mockingbird" that "the Bible in the hands of some people is far more dangerous than a loaded shot gun in the hands of a drunk!" This perversion of the message about persecution is not totally unique to them after all the Marxists in Czarist Russia used the same "rationale". A good idea to keep in mind is you cannot dialogue or debate these kind of people. The earth is flat and anyone who says otherwise is a servant of the Devil end of discussion If you do try, you just appear almost as stupid as they are. Lastly EVERYONE and I do mean EVERYONE knows that this "princess of the tea party" is married to another princess or at the very least a lady in waiting. The Mr in this case is a miss and confirms unfortunately every stereotype of a gay male. It is a stereotype that sales sit coms and fuels the right wing hate campaigns but it is only that, a stereotype. But be that as it may even stereotypes have a right to be stereotypes they just don't have the right to harm others!
+9 # Dorian Brown 2011-07-17 15:26
Good Comment, Bishop Andrew! Are you a Bishop?
+3 # BishopAndrew 2011-07-18 07:48
Yes, I was ordained to the priesthood in the Eastern Church and later served an "Intentional Eucharistic Community" that ordained me to the office of bishop. I am retired.
+22 # dick wilhelm 2011-07-17 12:35
Whatever, but I certainly hope the Bachmanns wont be forced to demonstrate their "straightness."
0 # RSJ 2011-07-19 02:44
The video is out there, dick wilhelm. ;) (Cue the Twilight Zone theme.)
+48 # giraffee2012 2011-07-17 12:37
You gotta love Jon Stewart and Jerry Seinfeld for their show last week. I refuse to live under any Christian extreme mantra as if it were the constitution. The Supremes are very right winged but they are for big $$ and if they also give religion "personhood" --- like they did to big corporations to "buy our government" -- they will be considered truly nuts.

My opinion - Scalia/Thomas should be impeached for sleeping with the ALEC group. (Google ALEC + Walker or Ryan Paul, or Eric Cantor)

Register and get mail-in ballots for 2012 elections NOW. Vote 2012 - get the Koch funded Reps & Senators OUT or down we go.

Bug your reps/senators to vote on Job Creation bills or you won't vote for them next time they run.
-7 # rf 2011-07-18 06:08
How could it possibly get worse than 'free trade', pro-war, pro-corp. Obama? Time the turncoat Dems pay the price for their treachery! Vote Socialist!
+4 # RSJ 2011-07-19 02:45
Vote socialist and get Republican. That, unfortunately, is the choice.
+3 # billy bob 2011-07-20 17:05
Absolutely right. The trick is to vote DEMOCRAT in the PRIMARY and just put in better Democrats. There's no rule that Obama HAS TO be the Democratic candidate in 2012. If a real Democrat would run against him, I'd certainly be actively helping that person out. I'm not willing to trade DOWN however, for someone even more conservative.
+47 # kitster 2011-07-17 12:44
what did jesus say about removing the spec from someone else's eye while ignoring the beam in your own? these hypochristians like the bachmanns are quick to condemn, as if they were "the way, the truth and the light." mathhew 7: 22 & 23 on these morons and their minions. anyway, public persons are fair game. let them boil in the same pot they fired up in the first place. it's hard to have compassion for the compassionless.
+2 # RSJ 2011-07-19 02:56
Jesus also said, quoting from memory, 'Why do you call out Lord, Lord and yet do not what I say?' and 'Judge not lest you be judged.' The Bachmann's and their fundamentalist ilk may be sorry someday they didn't follow Jesus' simple commands to 'love one another' and 'forgive your enemies.' They may be sorry even now, as we don't know what is behind their public masks. People can often be suffering the deepest internal hell while their face is glowing with a beaming smile, especially politicians. Ask any psychologist who treats depression.
+43 # CL38 2011-07-17 12:56
The 'issue' is that Bachmann has made a career out of going after gays, targeting them as evil and undeserving of the same respect or rights that she believes straight person deserve--just because they were born straight!(same argument used by Jim Crow whites against blacks in the 60's).

What does it say about HER that she's spent her adult life targeting gays, while her husband is so obviously "gay'? It demonstrates that she's not very bright or perceptive (and certainly shouldn't be President) and even more importantly, shouldn't her husband be subjected to the same label of evil she has fostered for others? Should he be exempt from the discrimination she insists all gays should face, just because he'her husband and closeted?

And finally, this is a morality tale. If you spend most of your life advocating harm for others (and claim this belief is supported by your 'religious' beliefs) what happens when someone YOU love, turns out to one of those you wish to destroy?

Do you turn it back on those exposing the lie and claim that they're evil, too? Or do you take a long hard look at yourself and what you've been doing?

How Bachmann handles this will determine her political fate.
+3 # RSJ 2011-07-19 02:59
Michele Bachmann may know very well her husband is gay or bisexual but, for the purposes of her political career, and perhaps a promise from him never to physically have sex with a male, she chooses to ignore it. It is absurdly avoiding reality, but many Christopublican s lead absurd lives of this type.
+40 # wwway 2011-07-17 12:59
In the 1970's the religious right was emerging. I was married to an evangelist then who liked to play around. His excuse? God didn't take his lust away. Bachmann is a product of that decade. Amusing?
+28 # Lulie 2011-07-17 13:03
Let's just nail Bachmann to the cross and be done with it. A win-win for everyone.
+35 # billy bob 2011-07-17 16:09
It could be the first time she's been nailed in years!

Sorry RSN, I couldn't resist.
+31 # Not Confused 2011-07-17 13:07
Perhaps he has anti gay therapy so he can be around gays? No doubt he wants to discipline them out of their bondage.
+50 # Regina 2011-07-17 13:08
So Michele whines about the absence of tolerance? Where's the tolerance among the allegedly Christian zealots she claims to lead? Give them an inch and they'll grab a yard of invasion into everyone else's life and beliefs. Example: Marcus's "clinic." They'll also move in on the Constitution and wreck our freedom of, and from, religion. Most of the Republican candidates' slate consists of warped idiots. Michele is a subversive menace.
+5 # rf 2011-07-18 06:10
Babe Michele is also trading in half truths constantly...ti me to hoist her on her own petard!
+27 # bigkahuna671 2011-07-17 13:09
I guess Michelle's going to have to face the same kind of wacko attacks she's famous for. It doesn't matter much what old Marcus is, but when you make your living off 'praying' gays straight and attacking them at every opportunity, you've got to be prepared to handle negative press. I've got several gay friends and have to admit, he sounds an awful lot like them, all the way down to the estrogen-based voice and squirrely mannerisms. Maybe he can get Larry Craig to go on tour with him to say how the Bachmann's 'prayed' Craig straight. My question now is, is door open for Sarah Palin? Hmmmm.....
+24 # gussie1 2011-07-17 13:12
If he's gay, and it's very likely -- the truth -- evidence -- will show up. It's just a matter of time. She's his story having been married so long.
+25 # Soundbitten 2011-07-17 14:40
Campaigning is tough and he is looking a bit Haggard.
+7 # rf 2011-07-18 06:11
Who cares if there is any truth to it...she has shown little regard for the truth...let her swing on rumours!
+22 # foxtrottango 2011-07-17 13:21
The more these hypocrites preach Christainty to their fundamental dogma brain-washed flocks, the more than have something to hide.

With the Backmanns being exposed for what they are, perhaps it's time to go Sarah Palin and the other right wing conservative politicians! After all, they all hide something nasty and wicked.
+40 # rblair-smu 2011-07-17 13:39
This would be only a personal matter IF the Bachmans hadn't accepted thousands of federal tax dollars to support their clinic. Tax payers have a right to know that their dollars are being spent on therapy discredited by EVERY reputable medical body.
+11 # giraffee2012 2011-07-17 21:45
Quoting rblair-smu:
This would be only a personal matter IF the Bachmans hadn't accepted thousands of federal tax dollars to support their clinic. Tax payers have a right to know that their dollars are being spent on therapy discredited by EVERY reputable medical body.

The religious right have complained ad nauseam about fec tax $$ for abortions (although the Hide Bill prohibits such) -- so how can the fed. tax $ fund some holy-rolling prejudice against a minority --- WE NEEDS JOBS --- not to listen to abortion rights, gay rights, religious rights --- ALL ala-the religious rights' constitution (I mean bible -- -is any of this really in the bible in the manner proffered by these GOP/TP? --- I know it is NOT)

Vote 2012 -- but google your choice for any connection to ALEC or Koch brothers (who are funding these nut cases) + Walker + Ryan Paul + all TP candidates (Money talks -- and they have no $$ except these sleeze bags who hope to be KING --- sorry George "W" --- you missed ur chance but took us down to a place that will take YEARS to recover from -- u creep/war criminal)

Excuse me -- for being so angry spending any time on this subject!
+19 # jooberdoober 2011-07-17 13:40
The lady (Marcus) doth protest too much, methinks.
+14 # bigkahuna671 2011-07-17 13:41
We have to remember, unlike Larry Craig, Marcus Bachmann has yet to be caught in a public restroom sending 'gay' signals. But then, Craig had never been caught either. My gay friends are having a good time with this one 'cause of all the grief the Bachmanns and their ilk have given them over the past few years. Pile it on, folks!
+22 # GeeRob 2011-07-17 13:51
Technically, doesn't this mean that Michelle has had gay sex?
+10 # billy bob 2011-07-17 16:08
Maybe she was trying the evangelical "cure".
+11 # dootise 2011-07-17 14:10
+33 # Barbara V. 2011-07-17 15:16
I really don't care what her husband is, it only makes me fighting mad to think this ignorant bitch wants the presidency under the guise of religion. If she's a Christian, I'm mighty glad I'm not. If she is Christianity's protocol, I want no part of it or anyone like her. Aside from stupidity, she has spread nothing but hate.
+21 # rm 2011-07-17 15:56
It seems that the religious right is filled with gay-bashing closeted gays. There are rumors that Eric Cantor is also homosexual and deep in the closet. I think the animus for much of their gay bashing is a hatred for things they feel in themselves. It is a displacement or transference. Too bad. They should just accept who they are and get on with life. I guess the worst of it is their attacks on others. It may also be that the main reason for their religious belief is a refusal to accept themselves as full human beings. They see themselves as "sinful" and they transfer this to all humans -- all humans are sinful or tempted in the way they are.

If any of this is true, it will be interesting to see how quickly Michele Bachmann disappears from the political scene.
+14 # billy bob 2011-07-17 16:07
"MIDWESTERN GAY", is what a friend of mine calls it.

I grew up in the Midwest where I never knew anyone who "was gay". I probably knew several people who were ACTUALLY gay, but I didn't know anyone I KNEW was gay. In the Midwest, the gaydar is trained right out of you. I always thought it was rare and a curiosity, like having a third nipple, until I moved to the deep South, where contrary to popular opinion, gay people are much more out without fear - at least compared to in the Midwest.

I have since moved to a part of the U.S. where gay people are very open. A friend from my old high school lives out here too. When I talk to her, she always remarks about the gay people she sees from the Midwest who have wives and children and no one in the town where they're from even suspects.

I wonder if that's what we're dealing with here.
+13 # Chelsea C Cook 2011-07-17 16:18
One point I did not see in the comments nor the story is that Rove does not like Bacman. Look at what happens to people who Karl (The Killer) Rove does not like. He has politically assasinated some good people to get his way and this looks to me as if it has his evil fingerprints all over it.
+13 # rm 2011-07-17 21:04
Chelsea -- I did not know that Rove disliked Bachman, but one reason may be that Rove's dad was gay. He was married for a cover but still had male lovers. Rove could never accept this about his dad and they never spoke once Rove got old enough to be on his own. It may be that he sees in the Bachmann household a mirror image of his own family life -- one that he hated and rejected.

God knows there are plenty of gay republicans. they even have a club -- the Log Cabin republicans. It is just too bad that republicans cannot accept that sexual attraction to someone of the same sex is normal. It has been around for as long as humans have been around. Rove, Bachman, and the rest of the republicans need to have a more realistic view of human nature -- but maybe that is why the are republicans. They revel in fantasies about human nature and human history.
+24 # minkdumink 2011-07-17 16:22
got to give it to these republicans they have nerve. You can be the worlds most evil person and simply pray and give your self to God (which I assume is money) and all is fine. Case in point the cocaine using, alcohol abusing, lying, draftdodger bush they elected twice, and to show his faith, he goes right out and kills half a million Iraqi's based on lies. Faith in action if I ever saw it. Can I get an amen?
+25 # Texass 2011-07-17 17:57
Correction Minkdumink:
Bush was NOT elected twice. I'm pretty sure he wasn't even elected once.
+8 # angelfish 2011-07-17 16:44
"Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones", as well as, "He that troubles his OWN house, shall inherit the wind"!
+7 # humanmancalvin 2011-07-17 18:01 question...GAY. ..& that would be just dandy outside of the hypocrisy!
+8 # antineocon 2011-07-17 18:56
+12 # alan haber 2011-07-17 19:35
for the 2012 campaign to turn on the "moral" christian/anti- gay vs. gay, could become a magnet for other fundamentalist, racial,anti-the -other, anti government causes.

in a fearful public, wearied by war, the new precariat, a bachmann/palin evanglical/spir itual hometown populism could have potent appeal.

our task is to stimulate people to thinking. not to drawn into the epic war of god against satan.

the epic war is the war of the rich against the poor, resulting in a giant theft and concentration of wealth in the very rich and the past victories of common people for freedom, respect, justice, equality being reversed.
+7 # jwb110 2011-07-17 20:42
Gay-dars are ringing all over the nation and reports are coming in from Europe. That said, Marcus can live in a closet of any depth or width he chooses. ( This may be the reason for all the foster children.) As long as the Bachmann's pursue an anti-gay agenda the more this will come up in the campaign. She, like a lot of Christians thrive on being on their way to the lions. They love being "the victim' because it absolves them of their other sins of hate and prejudice.
The best way to handles this is to let pay out enough of their own line to hang themselves. Stand by in silence. Be still and know that to give them nothing to rale and push against they have no message.
+10 # Texas Aggie 2011-07-17 21:23
I'm not particularly concerned about whether or not Marcus is a bit light in the loafers, but something that should be asked constantly is whether Michele buys into the part about the husband making all the decisions and being the head of the household. I gather that on at least one occasion she has said that she does.

If she denies it, she's got half the wingnut religionists against her (the male half), and if she acknowledges it, then the next question is whether we want Marcus baby as the de facto president.
+6 # Monty Gee 2011-07-17 22:05
The bigot alleges intolerance! If the answer to Islamic fundamentalism is Bachmann-style Christian evangelism, we will soon be in a mad, mad, mad, mad world.
Who would have thought the world might end in a nuclear crusade?!
+4 # dfvboulder 2011-07-18 03:41
Her martyrdom is not an "edge," except among the smallest sect of loonies. If she goes down that road, she'll get her wish -- she'll be laughed out of town by the other 99% of the country.
+6 # Obwon 2011-07-18 04:34
New and Improved "Pray away the Gay" CD with all new disco music and dancing.
0 # RSJ 2011-07-19 03:13
LOL, Obwon, and sponsored by KY Jelly and the YMCA.
+11 # todd williams 2011-07-18 06:25
Religion is surely the opiate of the masses. And we are surely screwed if any religious fanatic again becomes president. This is not the America I want to live in.
+3 # Vic Fusco 2011-07-18 11:28
I dont agree with or supoort Ms. Bachmann, but this tactic by our side is really sinking to a very low level. We're supposed to be the tolerant ones.
If this guy is gay it's really the business of no one but him and his wife. You can be Gay and not pro-gay marriage.
Let's attack her on her ideas and theories and not allow to become a sympathetic victim of the media, that only hurts the strength of our positions.
+5 # RSJ 2011-07-19 03:29
@ Vic Fusco: The Bachmann's are not just against gay marriage, they are against gays at any level. This isn't about Marcus Bachmann being gay, it's about he and his wife attacking gays and adding to the burden of intolerance and hatred foisted on them, and of gays not being able to share in the full rights of an American citizen due to their private sexual lives which, IMO, is nobody's business but their own. The Bachmann's are wrong both from the standpoint of our form of gov't and simple common decency, and they should be called on it. You can only tolerate so much intolerance before you have to speak out against it and tell the truth. If that's intolerant, so be it.
+7 # WINSTON 2011-07-18 11:59
It's ANITA BRYANT all over again!
+4 # Pickwicky 2011-07-18 12:40
Pass the orange juice.
+2 # SOF 2011-07-18 23:51
Gotta say it makes me uncomfortable to attack a candidate's family or anyone's sexuality -closet or straight or gay.... if it wasn't for the hypocracy. And that this is a Republican tactic used against them. So much for our side being nicer or more civil. On the other hand their arrogance and hypocracy will be their downfall anyway. These shallow rabid haters give Christianity a bad name, when religion really shouldn't even be an issue. But that would be their fault, too.
-5 # America 2011-07-19 02:56
Don't we have more pressing issues to worry about (the bad economy, unemployment etc.) in America than to talk about Michelle's husband's sexuality.

As a community we seem very insecure.

Let's address her real policies we do not like in an objective way. She is the one aspiring to be President and the people in this community think she has an unpopular stance, so we think she will lose.

Let's put our energy in sending the right messages to our leader, but faltering President not to sell out Medicare and dis-enfranchise our elderly in the current budget dispute.
+5 # billy bob 2011-07-19 08:03
Pointing out religious hypocricy and fraudulent behavior is germaine to a discussion of her presidential qualifications. Ridicule is an efficient way of getting to the point.
-2 # America 2011-07-21 14:13
Sorry Billy Bob what you say makes no sense. You are discrediting the AMerican people and you are the only one that can discern hyporacy..yeah?

DO you really believe ridicule is a real way to get people to believe? No Billy Bob ridicule creates alienation and polarization.

Do you think the GOP's read this blog?

You are supporting allegations which you cannot even prove. And if this is true so what?

I can prove Obama is faltering and his trajectory is one heading for defeat.

We would better serve him by sending concrete advice like 'don't mess with Medicare and stop selling us short.
0 # billy bob 2011-07-22 07:37
Ridicule isn't to convert people who disagree with you. It's for rallying the one who do and showing fence-sitters who's right and who's wrong in the debate in a way that nothing else will.

Satire and ridicule are as old as politics and are often the only tools the powerless actually have at their disposal. The ones complaining are always the ones who are used to getting their way.

I don't think the GOP reads these threads. It's not a blog by the way. Many people who DO read these articles can use what they learn to scream back at the GOP whenever fox and limb-blow and their neighbors and relatives are screaming at them in public restaurants.

I'm not supporting allegations. I'm making a point about hypocricy.

Do you think that it doesn't matter if bachmann is elected? Do you think she wouldn't be worse than Obama? Do you think it's not acceptable to use everything at our disposal to ridicule her now, rather than after she's the first lady?

0 # billy bob 2011-07-22 07:38

Do you prefer defeat to victory? Or are you just a troll who wants to see her in office anyway?

By the way, what does "allegations I can't prove" have to do with making jokes at the expense of my political enemies, who'd be more than happy to kill me if I got in their way? They are enemies whether you like it or not. If you don't believe it, just ask them, or listen to their actual words. If you'd rather give a group hug to people who want to see you distroyed and would probably shoot you if you tried to hug them, that's your choice. It's not mine. We've tried turning the other cheek. All four of my cheeks are sore.

Do you think the right cares if the allegations of the President's "muslim heritage" are true? Do you think the GOP cares about the "truth of the allegations" that "Obama hates America"?

No, I'm not willing to play by different rules than my political enemies. You can tie your hands behind your back all you want, but you won't tie mine. I plan to use ridicule every chance I get to point out the hypocricy of the repugnican party and people who think "small government" is best - WHILE ALSO wanting to dictate what you do in your bedroom.

Do you agree with them? If not, then stop trying to hinder people who are willing to fight back.
0 # billy bob 2011-07-22 07:40
By the way, are the AMerican people the ones who listen to AM radio?
+2 # poosta7 2011-07-19 08:20
A Freudian truism that beneath every hatred and fear there is a strong unconscious wish.
Mr. Bachman hates gays because he is one; Hitler hated jews because he was one (Read Dr. Alice Miller "the making of monsters")
+4 # dusty2 2011-07-19 17:53
I don't care if Mr. Michelle Bachman is gay or not, just don't like hatefulness of the Bachman couple who try to hide their hateful homophobia behind the figleaf of being Christian. I also don't belief or care if he has willed away his gayness, just don't lay your trip on others. Lastly the idea of the Michelle Bachman's attempting to show their heterosexuality in public activity to prove his un-gayness is ludicrous.
+3 # MainStreetMentor 2011-07-20 08:59
The hoopla surrounding Bachmann is being made by a very, very small percentage of citizens. It’s the media’s repeating of that minutia of citizen head-count’s vocalizations which turns erroneous commentary into media hype … just to sell for a profit, (the media has to make a living, too!) Out of fifty persons to whom I’ve personally spoken, forty-eight of them said: “NO way”, when asked if they’d support Bachmann’s bid for the Presidency. The other two said they’d “listen” to her rant, but doubted they’d every cast a vote for her, (roughly half of the fifty were conservative-le aning in their political viewpoints).
+1 # dfvboulder 2011-07-21 09:48
Oh, she'll have the last laugh all right. But only among the true believers. Meanwhile, her husband has become a standing joke to everyone else, and that is the one thing that spells doom in the culture at large. Once you're seen as a buffoon, nothing can overcome that perception.
+1 # RSJ 2011-07-22 05:03
Saturday Night Live might have to resurrect that very effeminate character whom everyone else thought was gay in the skits, but who was unable to see it himself. Only now they'd have to expand it to include his wife and various Christopublican and Tea Party voters.

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