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Keith Olbermann writes: "Republicans have overplayed their hand in a way that seems startling even for them, and they shall inherit the proverbial wind. They have taken another step, neither to be retraced nor erased, towards their political suicide - an event that cannot come a minute to soon for the real America of fairness, the sanctity of a contract, rules, and equal opportunity."

Keith Olbermann. (photo: Frederick M. Brown/Getty Images)
Keith Olbermann. (photo: Frederick M. Brown/Getty Images)

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+23 # pirugenia 2011-03-10 10:52
The China Syndrome is in these GOPers;
http://totallycoolpix.com/2011/02/china-the-worlds-factory/
 
 
+156 # vincent Rosende 2011-03-10 10:56
I am not suprised one bit with the Republican party, I always find their actions very interesting and when the middle class and poor come out to vote instead of sitting home then they will be heard. The Rep party has been for
the rich and could care less about the middle class, shame on them and American workers need to wake up start voting and throw the liers out of office like they deserve.
 
 
+98 # George D 2011-03-10 14:28
I'm a fan of Keith's and I haven't watched MSNBC since he left. As important as his voice is in this matter, and all matters where the left and right collide, I still get that hollow feeling that we're yelling at each other "we're winning" in a Charlie Sheen sort of way, when in fact, we are not.
Scott Brown won an election. GWB won one of his elections. This doesn't happen because "we are right" and "they are wrong"; It happens because voters don't know who is right and who is wrong. How do we change what we say and who we say it to, in a way that will get people to actually vote in their best interest? I'm at a loss to answer that. I forward some of what I read and the people that get it see me as an annoyance I believe.
How do we change the adage "Never try to teach a pig to sing; It wastes your time and it annoys the pig"?
 
 
+37 # jeanie vanwinkle 2011-03-10 17:57
You are right on target. i moved to east TN and am absolutely frustrated by the mindset of some of the poorest people in the state, right here in Blount County. I'll be looking for novel approaches to turn these folks around.[suggest ions from (perhaps) Keith?] Thanks.
 
 
+27 # desertmac 2011-03-11 04:05
Yeah Jeanie, that is what is needed, a new framing of the issues, done with bullet points and slogans, soundbites and logos. That IS what is effective with a dumbed-down complacent populace.

The great thing is that our side does not need to lie or distort to expose the right's record and true intentions!

When seniors can be shown in bullet point fact sheets exactly how the reps want to take away their SS, Medicare etc and shown the tax breaks and gov welfare for corporations, they might not be so damn loyal to the reps.

All "we" need is the opportunity to lay it all out in black and white, in the simplest of forms side by side, comparisons and voting records, then, if they bother to check these things out they will wake up to what they have been supporting. Another big hurdle is reversing the perception of unions as evil and hard working Americans as lazy and greedy and trying to suck the life out of our country. This perception must be reversed if we are to fight the corporate takeover.
 
 
+6 # union nurse 2011-03-13 08:02
Have any of you heard of PROJECT VOTE SMART? It is a non-profit, non-partisan organization that painstakingly collects information on all our elected officials and objectively tallies the results: their voting records, where their moneys come from for campaigns, their support or non-support on issues, etc.

It is entirely volunteer, donation-suppor ted and accepts no $ from the government, politicians, etc... it is one of the finest examples of a grass roots effort that is successfully accomplishing its mission.

Just look up Project Vote Smart on any search engine, it is located in Wyoming State.
 
 
+3 # The Moose 2011-03-13 11:03
That's very informative but the same people that are talking to each other and thinking we've won are the only people who look for that information.
 
 
+4 # david mallory 2011-03-13 15:23
Quoting jeanie vanwinkle:
You are right on target. i moved to east TN and am absolutely frustrated by the mindset of some of the poorest people in the state, right here in Blount County. I'll be looking for novel approaches to turn these folks around.[suggestions from (perhaps) Keith?] Thanks.


Reply by David Mallory: In the interest of equity in free speech, it should behoove liberals to use a few simple, business-like catch phrases (not too many!) such as those used by non-conserving conservatives, and also businesses, but phrases that do not lie and repeat them ad infinitum, ...since our public has been "educated" into responding reflexively to prolonged media blitz for multiple decades. Like TV advertising. Perhaps borderline-inco me people will vote less against themselves in time.
 
 
+21 # wfalco 2011-03-10 20:26
Yes George D I agree with you more so than Keith. In Florida I meet very few "middle classers" in my daily routine who are all up in arms about anything-other than what may affect them directly such as the price of gasoline.
There are pockets of progressive activity-but it is always the same pockets-(of course in northern states.)
As long as a southern/wester ner mind set prevails in large segments of our population (yes that is a huge generalization) there will be no radicalization of thought. As long as Republicans have disproportionat e wealth and power their agenda, will usually prevail.
 
 
+22 # asmilingmom 2011-03-10 21:30
wfalco...I live in Florida, too. I agree with your statement. So many people listen to the radical liars, then vote against their own best interests.

The 'mouths' are in south Florida. The rest of us are struggling, often poor, working people---the ones lucky enough to find a job.

Florida workers have NO real rights.

We have the right to work IF we are willing to tolerate anything a sadistic boss might throw at us...including withholding pay.
 
 
+17 # mikberg 2011-03-10 21:50
White conservatives out-voted white liberals in Massachusetts last year to elect Brown to the senate. Blacks and hispanics sat out the election because neither candidate appealed to them. Obama won with a coalition of all of the above. Black or Hispanic Democratic candidates are the key for future elections.
 
 
+11 # mikberg 2011-03-10 21:43
You can't change anyone's mind. But maybe you can encourage people to vote who usually don't bother. especially the working class.
 
 
+16 # doneasley 2011-03-11 02:07
Quoting George D:
I'm a fan of Keith's and I haven't watched MSNBC since he left..... I forward some of what I read and the people that get it see me as an annoyance I believe.
How do we change the adage "Never try to teach a pig to sing; It wastes your time and it annoys the pig"?


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George, I also forward some of what I read and I get the same feeling - that my e-mail buddies don't give a damn about what is happening in Wisconsin. They're not aware that this gradual usurpation of their rights began in earnest 30 years ago with Ronald Reagan. It's now in full bloom since, by controlling so many state legislatures, the GOP has more power than it ever did nationally. And, as Wisconsin governor Scott Brown said, "This is our moment." They plan to strike while the iron is hot!

While we slept, they (with the help of some Democrats) have gradually taken control of: the media; the courts; the voting process; union activity; tax law; manufacturing; etc. Meanwhile, they have unleashed an unrelenting attack on President Obama so successfully that 51% of GOP voters believe he was born in Kenya. Our mainstream media is so afraid of these guys that they are of no help when it comes to telling Americans the truth about what is happening to us.
 
 
+19 # desertmac 2011-03-11 03:57
George D, this is the most baffling paradox in our history: Why is it that dems represent the working class and have always been the advocate for them yet they have always been so damn sloppy and ineffectual with their message??? I find it astounding that among thousands of politicians and party activists that we have almost no strong voices in the media repeating a clear and sound-bite worthy message. The right is SO damn effective at messaging, why the hell can't the dems even get started on a message? It makes no sense! The right marches lockstep into the cable news studios and bombards us with their lies and slogans, yet the dems just sit there and don't even argue back or call them out for their lies.

We already know the corporate media won't call them out on their lies, but the dems COULD call them out often enough that the masses would at least HEAR their rebuttals once in a while!

No, the dem party is just as corrupted as the reps--- but the reps are more genuine because they never pretended to be for the working people. They are doing exactly what they said they wanted to do.... run us broke and give everything to the corporations.
 
 
+11 # Gemstone 2011-03-11 10:46
I agree that it's hard to change people's perceptions even when their totally wrong. But it seems to me that we have to join people like Keith and Rachel and Michael Moore and all the other known names to keep telling the truth. I think people will listen when they see others, like them, who are not famous names, taking the time to set the record straight. The opposition party has been successful at drilling the electorate with lies and distortions so continually that false becomes truth. We need to say NO; THAT ISN'T THE WAY IT IS often until we're blue in the face if we want to save our democracy.
 
 
+6 # Hermi Granger 2011-03-11 16:07
Don't change the adage, take a page from Harry Truman. Campaign by calling a pig a pig. He campaigned by loudly stating the Republican party is the party of big business and always has been! The Democratic Party is the party of the people, etc., etc., etc.
 
 
+6 # Hermi Granger 2011-03-11 16:41
Don't change the adage, rather review how Harry Truman campaigned and how FDR responded to the Repugs. They both were "in their face" with their responses.
 
 
+2 # Lou B. 2011-03-12 18:05
Voters don't know who is right and who is wrong. They've been sold distortions, lies and marketing hype with patriotic music and language neatly packaged by companies like Freedom Works. Changes need to happen in the media before an even greater number succumb to buyouts and politics rather than unbiased presentation of facts. How many of those you know watch Fox News.
 
 
+1 # mclaire12 2011-03-13 13:22
George What you say is very intelligent. But take another look at this supposed Dem loss. Didnt Martha Coakley actually say that she could not be expected to shake hands, in the cold, in front of a football stadium in the cold? With no glories to the President didnt he have a lot on his plate and couldnt someone select a more appropriate candidate for the Kennedy seat?
 
 
0 # egh 2011-03-14 06:23
George D You are echoing the frustration I feel. I sometimes wonder if voters feel that there is some cache to being associated with the Republican party. Part of the answer to the central question you raise will be the taking back of our media from the conservative bombasts that clutter the airwaves with blatant lies, lies and more lies. Until, like Canada, they are held accountable for this behavior in a tangible and personal way, the American public will continue to be swayed by these strangers to the truth.
 
 
+2 # Sarah 2011-03-15 00:11
George W Bush did not WIN either election. In 2000, over 50,000 black voters had to be illegally disenfranchised for him to come close to winning Florida. See the great book by John Nichols, 'Jews for Buchanan' for the best summary of what happened in Florida in 2000--complete with photos of various ballots and a photo of the "riot" that stopped the recount in Dade County. The great thing about the riot photo is that all of the rioters are identified--the y are all junior staffers for various national Republicon legislators.

In 2004, that same 50,000 black voters in Florida were STILL off the voting rolls AND they had to switch the Ohio votes in the middle of the night. In several Ohio districts, more people supposedly voted for George Bush than the total number of people registered to vote in the entire district! One District had 4000 (yes, FOUR THOUSAND) more votes for George W Bush than there were registered voters. That's why a whole bunch of Ohio politicians went to jail. And the guy in Tennessee whose company "handled" to vote counts? He died in a very suspicious accident just before he was deposed.
 
 
+1 # patrick mercer 2011-03-18 17:01
Same here George. I quit msnbc that same night.
 
 
0 # George V. Williams 2011-03-20 09:43
Very, very well said. Thank you.
 
 
+27 # Doctoretty 2011-03-10 16:37
Their actions are interesting? How about reprehensible? disgraceful? destructive to America?
 
 
+80 # garee peters 2011-03-10 10:57
...Wisconsin waterboarders take early lead...but the Pitchforkers have yet to go on offense...early first quarter...stay tuned
 
 
+53 # AndreM5 2011-03-10 11:47
Unfortunately the Puppeteers in control of the Repugs have shown they are completely willing to bring down the entire stadium if they don't "win." They get their way, they get all the money, they own the game.
 
 
+14 # A. Zide 2011-03-10 13:57
Quoting AndreM5:
Unfortunately the Puppeteers in control of the Repugs have shown they are completely willing to bring down the entire stadium if they don't "win." They get their way, they get all the money, they own the game.

Yes like the spoiled brats they are -- taking their ball(s) and going back home, if they can't get their way!
 
 
+6 # Hillarion 2011-03-10 18:48
Quoting A. Zide:
Quoting AndreM5:
Unfortunately the Puppeteers in control of the Repugs have shown they are completely willing to bring down the entire stadium if they don't "win." They get their way, they get all the money, they own the game.


Good grief! Only stadium? I think they'll destroy the USA! Social saboteurs, practicing anaphylactic politics. Please have a look -- very interesting: Are Right-Wingers Simply Stuck in Adolescence?
http://blog.buzzflash.com/node/12467

Sent this to Susan Kraemer, and she replied that they are more like "terrible twos" (she's had kids) --totally selfish, and able to be seriously mean.

We live in The Age of Exalted Greed.
recent report about the worlds' richest says there are 413 billionaires in the USA. Seems that about 410 of them are heartless, and many are addicts -- addicted to increasing their wealth.

Wish I'd snagged a bookmark when I saw it -- apparently, the amount of money sloshing in things like hedge funds is around $350 trillion -- that's thousand billion as we reckon such.

[continuing the quote]
Yes like the spoiled brats they are -- taking their ball(s) and going back home, if they can't get their way!


Not to be disrespectful, but you're too kind, by far.
 
 
-118 # rock 2011-03-10 15:01
How silly all this rant about puppeteers and "Repugs" is. Keith has managed to get his fan base all riled up about "parliamentary tricks" and "denying the minority" the right to participate . . . wake up! It was the Democrats [notice I don't have to stoop to mangling the name] that tried parliamentary tricks by skipping town. They took themselves out of the process, not like they were denied their right to participate.

I realize it's scary for you, and has prompted many calls for violence and "revolution," but this is actually the wave of the future - breaking the stranglehold these public unions have on the state budgets and economies - when the People see the results, they are going to want more of the same.

How about we settle this at the ballot box and not with pitchforks?
 
 
+5 # Lesabre 2011-03-10 15:53
I think we've already seen more of the same in the non-government work place.
 
 
+81 # DaveW. 2011-03-10 16:00
rock, Public unions DID NOT cause the financial sector albatross still hanging about our necks. They DID NOT start, not one, but two wars that were fallaciously "sold" and have cost well over a trillion dollars. They DID NOT coerce the U.S. manufacturing base to scour the globe in search of cheap labor which has led to record unemployment, a shrinking tax base and the indignation the right has carefully manipulated to their advantage. They DID NOT give tax breaks to the wealthiest Americans (both individual and corporate)that Republicans one and all agreed would "only be temporary." Some public employee unions HAVE gotten sweet deals. But they are in the distinct minority. The average public employee union worker makes 57,000 dollars a year. He/she when retiring will get, again on average, about 19,000 a year in benefits. My paper today in an Associated Press article reports that "World's richest are almost $1 TRILLION richer." 1,210 PEOPLE now have a combined wealth of $4.5 TRILLION, up from 3.6 TRILLION just one year ago. If you don't see the danger inherent in that type of accumulated wealth then you're historically bereft of any kind of practical knowledge and devoid of the type of humanity it will take for the human race to survive. And by the way, will DIEBOLD be manufacturing the ballot boxes we're supposed to settle at?
 
 
+66 # Reductio Ad Absurdum 2011-03-10 16:24
The unions didn't make the states go broke; the REPUBLICANS made the sates go broke, first by creating this economic catastrophe, THEN by GIVING STATE MONEY AWAY to corporations and the ultra-rich. Wisconsin HAD the money coming that it needed, but Walker gave it away. The Republicans cut taxes during two expensive wars, and now they're cutting spending during a recession — both are economic idiocies. Get it?
 
 
+44 # Doctoretty 2011-03-10 16:42
The only cries for violence and revolution I have heard were those from the right wing when Obama won the Presidency! The Democrats who left the state did so in the open. It is NOT illegal or a violation of any kind to do so. What the Rethuglicans did was sneaky, underhanded, and maybe illegal.
Recall is part of the right to the ballot box!
 
 
+26 # James Onon 2011-03-10 17:26
You're a fan of fictious historical rewrites & fabricated news reporting? The "Democrats leaving Wisconsin" helped make it obvious that Walker's one-sided budget bill was really about destroying collective bargaining & not about "balancing the budget". When the people see what results? Settled how?
 
 
+3 # antineocon 2011-03-10 23:40
Quoting rock:
How silly all this rant about puppeteers and "Repugs" is. Keith has managed to get his fan base all riled up about "parliamentary tricks" and "denying the minority" the right to participate . . . wake up! It was the Democrats [notice I don't have to stoop to mangling the name] that tried parliamentary tricks by skipping town. They took themselves out of the process, not like they were denied their right to participate.

I realize it's scary for you, and has prompted many calls for violence and "revolution," but this is actually the wave of the future - breaking the stranglehold these public unions have on the state budgets and economies - when the People see the results, they are going to want more of the same.

How about we settle this at the ballot box and not with pitchforks?


ARE YOU RELATED TO THE KOCH BROTHERS/???
 
 
-16 # rock 2011-03-11 08:17
Are you anything more than "anti?"
 
 
+10 # Texas Aggie 2011-03-10 23:52
But the right wing is already having a hissy fit about the recalls, that somehow they are illegitimate. Doesn't that count as the "ballot box?"
 
 
+12 # Reductio Ad Absurdum 2011-03-11 11:33
An excellent point that exposes their hypocrisy. Bullies are always the biggest whiners when the tables are turned — both in life and in politics. What we're seeing in Wisconsin is nothing short of political thuggery.
 
 
+11 # elaineinpgh 2011-03-11 15:20
You're exactly who we're trying to reach. The Dems had to leave town - there was no other way to stop the vote. When the people found out what was being voted on, they also agreed with the Dems - not Walker. Check your poll numbers. And turn off Fox - unions ARE NOT the problem - corporate welfare is.
 
 
+5 # photojack53 2011-03-12 01:28
rock, This WILL be settled at the ballot box! I can't wait to vote these EVIL bums out of office. Lest these myopic Repugnicans forget, here's a quote from their hero figure, Ronald Reagan: "Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost." He was a member of the Screen actor's Guild for most of his life. MY HOW THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS CHANGED 180 DEGREES FROM THEIR RECENT PAST! The ONLY reason is that they are bought-out by corporate interests and the Koch brothers and are NOT representing even their own constituent's best interests. VOTE THESE EVIL BUMS OUT OF OFFICE, RECALL OR IMPEACH THEM, NOW!
 
 
+113 # ebanks84 2011-03-10 11:08
The Fall of the Republicans will be HARD, SLOW, AND PAINFUL. They will actually feel every lump and bump they receive. They will NEVER forget their last hoorah for the rest of their sorry lives. I'm so glad to see them falling apart at the seams right now and will watch their total fall with a happy face for sure :)
 
 
+36 # Linda Taibi 2011-03-10 12:19
Well said.
 
 
+61 # William Myers 2011-03-10 11:15
Great post, Keith, & right on!
 
 
+68 # William McAllister 2011-03-10 11:22
Union gains raised all boats. Remember, Bob Cratchitt (sp.) was the CFO of Scrooge/Marley. Charles Dickens knew what was needed in 19th Century England, and pointed it out to his ill-informed countrymen and to the rest of the world. Must we go through all of that again? I live just across the river from the Homestead strike in Pittsburgh.
 
 
+106 # Mary L Ingle 2011-03-10 11:25
the republicans have forgotten the lesson of the French Revolution if in fact they ever heard of it.
 
 
+38 # sallyb 2011-03-10 12:56
They probably think the French Revolution was about being good enough to share the cake with the people. "Let them eat cake!" That was but the beginning. Let them feel the pitchforks.
 
 
+49 # davidiste 2011-03-10 13:59
The behavior of the right wing over many decades has been pathological, which is following a behavior pattern baked in the bread. They don't learn, they keep believing in the same thing. Mistakes and costly decisions never teach them anything except to try the same thing again perhaps more ruthlessly, and defend themselves to the death because they never make a mistake.
 
 
+30 # Lesabre 2011-03-10 15:58
They've got their planes and off-shore bank accounts to escape with.....we still haven't seen anybody from Wall Street go to jail for the Trash based AAA securitys and credit default swap scandal.
 
 
+95 # pokerfarian 2011-03-10 11:31
THEY will not back down without a long vicious fight - if you think THEY won't turn weapons on us you are mistaken. There will be blood and it will be ours! Yet, we will prevail for we have justice on our side.
 
 
+49 # Bradley Fitzgerald 2011-03-10 12:12
Yes, and "we" outnumber "them" about 3-to-1...
 
 
+58 # Steve Horneffer 2011-03-10 12:34
Quoting Bradley Fitzgerald:
Yes, and "we" outnumber "them" about 3-to-1...

More like 10-1. They work mostly for the top 1%, plus the religious crazies.
 
 
+58 # Linda Taibi 2011-03-10 12:21
It sounds like we are in the Middle East fighting for freedom.
 
 
-9 # Babe 2011-03-11 01:08
If you follow astrology, we are going through an era of major unrest and protests by the masses. Blame it on the planet configurations. This was projected over a year ago by many astrologers.
 
 
+9 # Anarchist 23 2011-03-11 10:05
As one who also does mundane astrology predicitions, yes these thngs have been predicted. However, it does not get anyone off the hook when it comes to making choices and we all have free will, although generally the inertia of people not choosing makes the predictions come trye. However, in times like these, it is quite obvious that we must choose and choose wisely. We have more in common with the average Egyptian in the streets than we do with the Elitists and their Faux Fraucasting cronies!
 
 
+20 # Norman Ridenour 2011-03-10 13:38
As a historian and former professional officer let me remind you that we have a professional military. Usually a professional army will be more likely to shoot fellow citizens than a conscript army. Beware in the streets.
 
 
+11 # desertmac 2011-03-11 04:19
I agree, Norman. DO NOT THINK FOR A MINUTE that our soldiers and police forces won't shoot us in the streets! They WILL and they will feel totally justified because their commanders will tell them those thousands of Americans in the streets are domestic terrorists, and Glen beck will convince Faux News morons that "we" are being propped up by the Caliphate and the communists and whomever else he includes in his frenzied babblings and scrawlings on his chalkboards while he cries for a lost America.
 
 
+9 # marti911 2011-03-10 15:40
Much, too much, blood has already been spilled...at home and abroad. Weapons are being sold and used with lack of appropriate domestic laws and lawmakers countrywide more concerned about their re-election than taking a firm stance on correcting loopholes in our gun laws & military actions.
 
 
+3 # Paul Foreman 2011-03-11 12:01
Quoting pokerfarian:
THEY will not back down without a long vicious fight - if you think THEY won't turn weapons on us you are mistaken. There will be blood and it will be ours! Yet, we will prevail for we have justice on our side.

I would like to add the great quote by John F. Kennedy, "those who make peaceful change impossible make violent change inevitable", and by far the most prescient thing Gaddafi said at his last U,N, address was "you need to reopen the investigation into the death of JFK"; did he and his Marxist buddies like Raul Castro, Hugo Chavez, and Daniel Ortega know something most of the rest of us don't????
 
 
+5 # Paul Foreman 2011-03-11 12:08
I would like to add the comment by JFKm :those who make peaceful change impossible make violent change inevitable...." and I agree we are already far along the road to the police state. Watching the father of the Wikileaks soldier, and knowing the percentage of our population in lockup, and the omnipresence ofg the cameras, I would re commend we all reread Orwell's 1984.Revolution may be what is called for; I am on the democratic left, but the populist right's call for a new Constitutional Convention resonates with me. Having a clown like Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court, courtesy of G.H.W. Bush and the weak-kneed Joe Biden, tells me the Constitution needs to be changed. Vincent Bugliosi said the five so-called "justices" who unconstitutiona lly handed the 2000 election to George's son were criominals. Far better to impeach them then simply recall the eight or so Republican senators in Wisconsin.
 
 
+59 # Pat Stoll 2011-03-10 11:32
Hi Keith,
We miss seeing you on TV. Keep up the good fight.
 
 
+76 # James Onon 2011-03-10 11:39
Walker & the Repubs have "no respect" for the Wisconsin voter. They lie. fabricate statistics, pay for "favorable public comments" and are financed by the "Big Money Goons. This type of corruption is not new. Anti-trust laws,etc. were passed about 100+ years ago. Unfortunately, Obama is a "wimp". Perhaps "someone" of Teddy Roosevelt's stature will appear to lead the way. In the meantime, the Wisconsin & American citizens can continue to organize & lead the way against those who have no respect or belief in anything except "Big Money" & "sleezy politics".
 
 
+44 # Dan Fahey 2011-03-10 11:43
Republia Party like other Dictatorships will be hard to counter.

Theyr are ruthless and have big money and poltics behind them and a huge supporting cast willing to do things against their best interests...jus t like NAZI Germany or any other Dictator like Khadafi, Pol Pot, Bush II.

We live in a Democracy and it is being broken into a Republic represented by the RICH and Powerful.

Thier quest includes ignoring the Constitution as irelevent..

Just like the Wisconsin Govenor Walker and Chrisies behavior
 
 
+24 # Big Red 2011-03-10 12:20
This is a Constitutional Republic with a Bill of Rights. The Constitution guarantees a republican form of government to all the States.
Never confuse our form of government with those fascist repugs!Get out of this false repug demo paradigm. Those 2 partys whipsaw us back and forth-divide and conquer.
 
 
-55 # Steve S 2011-03-10 12:23
Yes, the Republicans are ruthless and have big money behind them. They do all sorts of rotten things. But so far they have not started a World War or major genocides. They've even replaced old gas chambers with lethal injection machines.

To call them Nazis is over the top, and runs into Godwin's Law territory.

There are plenty of bad things we can say about them, but let's not start calling them Nazis.
 
 
+80 # in deo veritas 2011-03-10 13:06
Call them what they are. Everything they do is from Uncle Adol's playbook. First you get together with the rich industrialists to destroy the unions and put everyone in the National Labor front where they work for the govt. Control the news media using propaganda to deceive the people. Thank Bush and Murdoch for that. You find as group toblame all the problems on-in germany it was the news,with us it was black, hispanice, and now Muslims-divde and conquer-trust the government not your neighbor. Instigate illegal wars and invade other countries to profit industry and the merchants of death with no concern for the number of dead (your own as well as others). In the name of national security, abolish all constitutional safeguards and bill of rights. Use illegal wiretaps, etc. to spy on the people (Gestapo). Everyone has to sacrifice for the good of the country (except the rich). How many more examples must we have to see that we are irrelevant. These traitors are our greatest threat. If indeed the Repuglican Party is committing suicide, we the people need to play Dr. Kevorkian!
 
 
+49 # John G 2011-03-10 13:56
A pretty fair summary of what happened in Germany. Read the history. It is frightenly similar to what is happening now. The quote goes "those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it's mistakes." Think about it.
 
 
+23 # Lady Jane 2011-03-10 15:44
Time to reread Sinclair Lewis's book, It Can't Happen Here. Looks like it could indeed happen as you all note, because the playbook seems to be working for the GOP and tea partiers.
 
 
-5 # howard s 2011-03-10 16:12
they may be despicable, with the worst yet to come, but your nazi comparison is facile. part of the reason for germany's Nazification was a) the german people's greater willingness to respect authority and show obedience, and b) the enormous mileage the nazis got from losing the first world war.
Let me know when you think americans ever showed respect for authority , and/or a willingness to admit they ever lost a war, and your argument might gain some traction.
We might be headed towards fascism, but it won't be anything like the nazis. It'll likely be far less systematic, but far more cruel and successful. Nazism was a single flavour and america's fascism will be a rainbow of oppression at home and around the world.
By your definition all G20 countries are some kind of Nazi or other, wouldn't you say?
 
 
-2 # KittatinyHawk 2011-03-10 19:21
Followers of these two evils are the same that are in fear of doing anything for themselves, therefore, believe anything the Popular Kids say or the Bully says...
 
 
+8 # Reductio Ad Absurdum 2011-03-11 13:49
You sate: "Let me know when you think americans ever showed respect for authority, and your argument might gain some traction."

That's too easy; for decades the purposefully self-deluded rightwing devotees have been following the marching orders of the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, Beck, and now they have 24/7 Fox News to tell them how and what to think. They see these shock-jock macho-meathead motor mouths as their father figures, and they willingly abdicate any autonomous thought to them, thus creating an entire segment of the electorate with chronic invincible ignorance, willing to believe in death panels, willing to believe that unions are the cause of all our economic woes a mere two years after Wall Street crashed the world economy, willing to support an illegal war, willing to blame Obama for all of Bush's disasters, etc., etc., etc.

So, is the argument gaining traction NOW?
 
 
+17 # Hillarion 2011-03-10 18:59
Fox News, the publicity wing of the Republican Party, is our counterpart to the Völkischer Beobachter, the disinformation organ of the NSDAP.
Read "Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism", . It's worrisome.

Try also "Are Right-Wingers Simply Stuck in Adolescence?"
.
 
 
+32 # A. Zide 2011-03-10 13:59
Quoting Steve S:
Yes, the Republicans are ruthless and have big money behind them. They do all sorts of rotten things. But so far they have not started a World War or major genocides. They've even replaced old gas chambers with lethal injection machines.

To call them Nazis is over the top, and runs into Godwin's Law territory.

There are plenty of bad things we can say about them, but let's not start calling them Nazis.

Your vote is a travesty and shows that Republicans like youare nothing but sheep, slaves to the unbridled greed of large corporations and piggishness of lobbyists like the voracious Koch bros.

Balancing the WI. budget on the backs of state workers --mostly women teachers, nurses, secretaries and other modestly paid workers -- and doing so in a sneaky way (=the radical rightwing Repugnican way?) shows your utter disrespect and lack of regard for our democracy. Republicans are like spoiled little boys who HAVE TO have THEIR way,. no matter what, and at ANY cost... Dishonorable. Dishonest. Indecent! You have sown the seeds of destruction of the shameless Republican party.
RECALL!


"Fascism should rather be called corporatism, as it is the merging of government and corporate power." --Benito Mussolini
 
 
+2 # demosthenes 2011-03-12 11:02
I don't believe the author of this quote called him/herself a Republican; in fact, it's my impression that all this person was calling for was reasoned discourse. I understand that we're angry, and that's good. But it is not necessary to pull out hyperbole to support our arguments. Insults weaken, rather than strengthen, the argument. There are plenty of intelligent Republicans and Libertarians, and we lose them when we start hurling the ad hominems. Let us begin by assuming that we are all rational beings (I know, that might be quite a stretch, but try it -- just for fun). The simple bold statement of facts can be withering enough, and I applaud those who have done that here.
 
 
+48 # aikidokurt 2011-03-10 14:11
I beg to differ: please note how many of the following points we;'ve already fulfilled: "The 14 Defining characteristics Of Fascism
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapego ats as a Unifying Cause
4. Supremacy of the Military
5. Rampant Sexism
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
9. Corporate Power is Protected
10. Labor Power is Suppressed Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
14. Fraudulent Elections Fascist nations typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections."
Dr. Lawrence Britt
 
 
+11 # LEW 2011-03-10 21:25
Reads like the Republican playbook.
 
 
+12 # George D 2011-03-10 14:31
I would avoid calling then Nazi's out of my own self respect. I would never want to sound like Glenn Beck.
 
 
+14 # James Onon 2011-03-10 17:36
What do you call someone who lies about WMD to start a war in Iraq, etc., leading to the deaths of thousands of men, women, children & American soldiers?
Some LABELS are just facades.
 
 
+5 # Ken Hall 2011-03-11 02:35
Steve, you really should open your dictionary, if you have one. Nazis were fascists, which in my dictionary is "...the identification of the state with business interests, usually with accompanying jingoism and patriotic pandering to war." To compare Repubs with fellow fascists is defensible.
 
 
-8 # billy bob 2011-03-11 09:34
Steve S,

I've read dozens of your comments in recent months and I've NEVER read anything by you that didn't essentially say the same thing: that "yes republicans are bad... BUT..." You can ALWAYS be counted on to supply us with the false equivalencies, and the calls for us to unilaterally "tone it down"

It's a very old and insidious tactic you're using, and judging by your ratings, it doesn't seem to be working.

I give a lot of credit to my fellow RSN readers for reading through your obvious attempts at manipulation.
 
 
+3 # billy bob 2011-03-11 09:37
I guess a quicker way to reply to you would have been:

You can stop hiding your intentions. The cat's out of the bag.
 
 
+2 # Anarchist 23 2011-03-11 10:08
The classical term Fascist will do quite nicely though!
 
 
+5 # tim sprague 2011-03-11 18:41
Steve, your comment is based on sound reason and logic. But, look at the thumbs down!!

In the greater audience, calling someone a Nazi, when you really mean something else, is lazy among other things.

After making a great argument, such as "the US Dollar is being destroyed by the FED buying 70% of Treasurys under QE2", why lose your fellow citizen by name calling?

There are many, confused in the middle right now, that might best be persuaded by avoiding the Beck approach!!
 
 
+10 # Homer Peters 2011-03-10 17:50
Just like G. Wanker Bush said,
"The Constitution is just a
goddamn piece of paper!"
Google it.
 
 
+75 # Rubiat 2011-03-10 11:44
It is inconceivable that a political party can continue to survive while making no pretense of protecting the interest of the people. These however are unique times, when the court rules that corporations have the rights of the individual. What the corporations cannot do is vote, and we the people must motivate our lazier neighbors to take a stand.
 
 
+41 # AndreM5 2011-03-10 12:23
Corporations have voted for years. They manufacture, distribute, "calibrate," and tally the voting machines and they make profit doing so far beyond their state "contracts." It may be harder to flip the vote when the margin is overwhelming but it has worked so far. The trick may be to reverse the effort to suppress the vote.
 
 
+21 # Patricia M. Williams 2011-03-10 15:10
Obama won by several million more votes than were tallied in the final count. So did Gore. The Republicans boasted that Gore had lost in his home state, Tennessee. It is very questionable that he really lost. He certainly got the vote in Florida. It took five Supreme Court justices to overrule that. At some of the state and local levels, it is even worse. Look at the primaries where losers win, that glaring one in SC for example. We need election reform. It can be done. The Carter Center has experts on how to secure elections.
 
 
+6 # KittatinyHawk 2011-03-10 19:26
Penna last election is proof that something is very wrong with counts and with machines.
Sestak was alive and well with over 2500 votes then before the doors closed he lost...votes from absentee not even counted. He was favorite, but he did not take as much money from oil/gas
 
 
+32 # in deo veritas 2011-03-10 13:09
Maybe thery can't vote but they can buy elections. If the rationale of the Supremely Corrupt Court makes sense, then corporations shouold have damn few if any rights, just like most individuals. The fault also lies with our lazy and ignorant public that doesn't vote. The countries that make you pay a fine if you don't vote have the right idea.
 
 
+3 # AndreM5 2011-03-10 13:32
Australia has a 98% voter turn-out but to my many friends' shock, they still elect extremist right governments.
 
 
+21 # james t 2011-03-10 13:23
i say if corps have right of individual;pros ecute them as individuals;our work is cut out for us;welcome to the machine
 
 
+28 # AndreM5 2011-03-10 14:36
Since SCOTUS says they have rights of persons I recommend we institute capital punishment for corporations. When Haliburton, BP, News Corp, Citi, et al. commit crimes against our society they should be dissolved. Incorporation is not a right, it is a legal trick that can be reversed.
 
 
+61 # Lou Pechi 2011-03-10 11:45
Who is next?
The attack on the unions is reminiscent of the attack on unions started in Germany by Hitler using the financial crisis as an ready excuse to attack unions, before ever going after the Jews.
Union organizers were the first occupants of the newly established concentration camp.
We all know who followed.
 
 
+21 # Eva Cutler 2011-03-10 13:36
LOU PECHI HAS IT RIGHT! Why the rest of the people cn't see this,is because they either never really know how Hitler managed to seize ultimate power or have never been taught in history clas to signals.
 
 
+8 # PensiveGadfly 2011-03-10 19:40
Quoting Eva Cutler:
LOU PECHI HAS IT RIGHT! Why the rest of the people cn't see this,is because they either never really know how Hitler managed to seize ultimate power or have never been taught in history clas to signals.


Not sure what the Nazis sought to do in the beginning of their rise to power, but the puppeteers of the Repugnants just want profit and power--to turn the US into a banana republic, or perhaps an Ayn Rand paradise, with a few wealthy overlords and millions of serfs--they do seem to want to exterminate people.
 
 
+3 # Anarchist 23 2011-03-11 10:13
Given the hearings now going on in the House, thanks to Rep King (R NY) the Muslims will be next. Of course gay people are already under attack, and women are being sentenced to Kinder,Kuchel, Kirke(children, Cooking,Church) as their only legitimate sphere of interest by the ReThugs. So adding trade unions to the enimies list is quite following the Fascist playbook.
 
 
+1 # tim sprague 2011-03-11 18:49
Lou P.... Can't agree more. Expect something in the way of "papers please". Air travel but also on the ground. US customs blocked a one lane border crossing in a rural section of CA last week. At least 25 various Alphabit agencies: all with black masks and automatic weapons. Backed up things up four miles but it was a training for a larger venue. Also, look for currency restrictions.
 
 
+69 # sark 2011-03-10 11:47
Republicans will still win because they control the vote count on voting machines manufactured by Republican supporting corporations. Citizens must first take back the election process so that the vote is counted as the voter intended. Please start addressing this very real problem, please.
 
 
+48 # Steve Horneffer 2011-03-10 12:38
That's how 'W' stole the '04 election by rigging the Diebold machines in Ohio to the toon of 140,000 votes, the number Turdblossem correctly calculated they needed to steal in order to win.
 
 
+15 # in deo veritas 2011-03-10 13:12
Right on target! So glad I got out of there the minute I was discharged from the military.
 
 
+18 # in deo veritas 2011-03-10 13:11
Very true in Ohio, where Cleveland decided to buy more of these crooked machines. What can you expect from people whose symbol is a poisonous nut?
 
 
+74 # carol kaplan 2011-03-10 11:48
Who voted these people in? I have heard Republicans actually say they were sorry they voted Republican. But what did they expect?
I hear my parents were Republican so I am. duh... didn't you grow up to be independent? I think many Republicans are under the illusion that the party is like it used to be 50 years ago.
Today it is scary right wing and people had better learn it before they bring down this country. Bush nearly did. I am 65 years old and never in my life have I seen such destruction of our "Democracy" as under George W. I think he was drunk half the time.
 
 
+27 # in deo veritas 2011-03-10 13:13
He also is documented to have spent more time on vacations than any other excuse for a president.
 
 
+13 # Homer Peters 2011-03-10 18:04
Carol, I'm 67 and I watched the little drunk grow up (oxymoron) in Texas.
He was drunk then and still is...a dry drunk but still a drunk. And those fn morons in Dallas worship him.
 
 
+1 # tim sprague 2011-03-11 18:51
Quoting Homer Peters:
Carol, I'm 67 and I watched the little drunk grow up (oxymoron) in Texas.
He was drunk then and still is...a dry drunk but still a drunk. And those fn morons in Dallas worship him.


He spent time in Texas: He got his DUIs in Maine. If you didn't know that before, well, I just you know why!! LOL.
 
 
+7 # Hillarion 2011-03-10 19:12
It will take a while to read:
Quoting carol kaplan:
Who voted these people in? I have heard Republicans actually say they were sorry they voted Republican. But what did they expect?
I hear my parents were Republican so I am. duh... didn't you grow up to be independent? I think many Republicans are under the illusion that the party is like it used to be 50 years ago.
Today it is scary right wing and people had better learn it before they bring down this country. Bush nearly did. I am 65 years old and never in my life have I seen such destruction of our "Democracy" as under George W. I think he was drunk half the time.

The Rise and Fall Of The Third Reich,
by William L. Shirer. Excellent and memorable; also quietly horrible.

As to destruction of our democracy: we're experiencing anaphylactic politics. (Worth checking the meaning of that word.)Quoting Steve Horneffer:
A working man or woman voting Republican is like a chicken supporting Col. Sanders.
 
 
+3 # Anarchist 23 2011-03-11 10:17
Another good book to read about the rise of the Nazis is 'Blood and Banquets' which is exerpts from the journal of Bella Froom who was in Germany until 1939 and who was present in high circles and met many of the Nazis in the early days through her job as social reporter for diplomatic circle. I read 'Rise and Fall' back when I was 14-and have been aware of the increasing estruction of the country since Viet Nam protests of 67-maybe people are finally seing the game plan in all its hideous clarity!
 
 
+5 # fuzzy2010 2011-03-10 22:23
if you think that is true you need to look at the family history- Try Prescott Bush a congress person in the 1930's . Also do Smedly Butler that killed the grand plan of P. Bush. The name of the game is TREASON !
 
 
+31 # tuandon 2011-03-10 11:49
I wish I agreed, but I think the American Sheeple will go a good distance more before waking up to the evils of the Right.
 
 
+49 # reiverpacific 2011-03-10 11:50
Love that phrase "Cross-eyed Koch-sucker"! A general strike across the country is really what is called for here but know that the tactics used by the "cross-eyed" one are almost the same as those instigated by Hitler to undermine the Wermacht and usurp themselves into power by ANY MEANS at their disposal (I recommend you to William Schirer's "Nightmare years" for a detailed front line history of this). The right-wing religiosity-spu rred mentality has no shame and has a sense of self-righteousn ess which blinds them to all reason and so it is in Wisconsin (and Michigan). ALSO KNOW THAT THEY WANT US AS SLAVES! Corporate rule = Fascism! Sound familiar yet? By the way, my daughter is right on the front lines in Madison and I'm VERY proud of her. And I agree with "Mary L Ingle" and "pokerfarian", as in "any means necessary". If they do call out the military, what is that but Civil War -and do they care? Nah!
 
 
+21 # Jawbone Grouch 2011-03-10 11:55
I predicted the suicide of the Republican Party over two years ago.
Their addition of the The Tea Baager party only sealed the deal.
Bring us UP TO DATE...
Their suicide started long ago.
 
 
+32 # HommeVieux2 2011-03-10 11:55
There seems to be something in the human condition that breeds Repuglicans, whether they be called CDU in Germany, or Tory in Britain, follow Berlusconi in Italy, or Putin in Russia, a certain dark, suspicious spirit directed at "the other" and always thinking "me first". Their self-destructio n too often follows the destruction they bring, witness our recent Great Recession. We badly need a better way, especially in the face of climate change.
 
 
+46 # caboone 2011-03-10 11:57
I can only hope that this action by Wisconsin Republicans will serve to prove to the middle class that Republicans do not and never have had their interests at heart. In the past these people have inexplicably voted against their own interests when voting for Republicans.
 
 
+66 # Steve Horneffer 2011-03-10 12:41
A working man or woman voting Republican is like a chicken supporting Col. Sanders.
 
 
+2 # Hillarion 2011-03-10 19:13
Quoting Steve Horneffer:
A working man or woman voting Republican is like a chicken supporting Col. Sanders.


I'd say Frank Perdue. He runs very cruel factory farms, afaik.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2011-03-10 19:30
Excellently put..sad thing is I raise chickens, they love the hand that!
 
 
+39 # hankgeorge 2011-03-10 11:57
The people of Wiscnonsin won't take this lying down. The crazed practitioners of shock doctrine have dug their own political graves. There will be recalls and strikes. Their transparent agenda, even debunked in Forbes and the Murdoch Street Journal, is now there for all Americans to understand.
 
 
+27 # DaveW. 2011-03-10 12:00
Something like Napoleon, the Republicans have created their own version of "Waterloo." But in the interest of shared pain, I'd like to thank those responsible for allowing the aforementioned Dirtbags the opportunity to take our country down the sewer hole of debauched, detached and depraved politics. Here's to you Democrats, such as Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Kent Conrad of N.Dakota, Evan Bayh of Indiana and your fellow travelers Presidents Clinton and Obama. It's "men" such as yourselves who bought the train tickets, provided the plush accommodations and became "porters of capitulation" thus allowing our descent into what can only be described as "tracks into hell."
 
 
+4 # Homer Peters 2011-03-10 18:35
Dave, FN stunning summary....I'm saving it and forwarding it on to many, some as stupid the chicken voting for Col. Sanders.
 
 
+5 # DaveW. 2011-03-11 13:06
Homer, Thanks! Its just my opinion that in order for the left to eradicate the pernicious effects being wrought on the country, we MUST "cure ourselves" of the cancers within. Complicit Democrats are almost worse than in-your-face Republicans. We can clearly define one enemy. The other hides behind faux populism and the shadow of the "D" behind his/her name. I like the "chicken voting for Col.Sanders" metaphor. Sadly, its about equivalent to many of our nations seniors voting Conservative. Take Care.
 
 
+43 # richard pahigian 2011-03-10 12:02
The republicans have found a way to set the middle class to destroy itself. Teachers,police , fire-fighters,p ublic-sector workers did not creat the housing, wall street and banking mess,nor did they send jobs to other countries for cheaper labor. Tea-party GOP types have been cleverly manipulated to place all their anger and jealousy at the feet of public-sector workers who really are their own people who just tried to get into public service. Now the wealthy ruling classes intend to just watch us consume and destroy each other.
 
 
+18 # in deo veritas 2011-03-10 13:16
They better take a lesson from history as did their counterparts in France in 1789-we will destroy them first! If not, then we don't deserve to be a nation-state.
 
 
+3 # Hillarion 2011-03-10 19:16
Dear Tea Party: You've Been Had.
http://blog.buzzflash.com/node/12425

Please read.
 
 
+19 # SouthBrun 2011-03-10 12:07
The use of force that including killing was used by the local Mills in Honea Path, SC back in the 1930's. What a disgrace then and now. They have used ballots as bullets for the working man.
 
 
+18 # in deo veritas 2011-03-10 13:21
Just like the Homestead Steeel strike in Pa. Also Harding sending in the army and aircraft into West Virginia during the coal strike. What the hell is the difference between that and the rationale Gaddaffy Duck uses to kill his own people. It hasn't come to that yet, but do you really believe that the neofascists running the show wouldn't use force if they could declare a "state of emergency" somewhere as they want to do in Muchigan and give the governor unlimited power? Assume the position (bend over)!
 
 
+35 # Daniel Woods 2011-03-10 12:14
This CORPOFASCCIST ANARCHY MUST STOP NOW!!! Progressives whether you are a union member or not here is an old union saying that you can learn from and get some inspiration from in this battle for the moral fabric of our country!!------ UNITED WE BARGAIN,DIVIDED WE BEG!! WE MUST NOT ALLOW THE GOP AND THEIR CORPOFASCIST PUPPETEERS CONTINUE TO "STARVE THE BEAST" If you haven't figured it out yet THE BEAST IS US!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 
 
+33 # Jim 2011-03-10 12:17
Many's the time I thought that Americans were not gullible enough to allow the propaganda of the Wall Street funded GOP and Fox 'news' to control the minds and votes of those they were destroying; but I've been wrong before, so I fear that this current outrage will somehow be glossed over and the continued advance of rightwing mean-spiritedne ss will just keep on rolling. And I do hope to God I'm wrong. PS - note:when I refer to God I mean the capital G one, not the cruel monster of the so-called 'Christian' right.
 
 
+38 # cristpd 2011-03-10 12:19
Unions: The folks that brought you the "weekend" (and overtime pay, and child labor laws, and old age pensions, and, and and...) NOW, President Obama, will you fulfill your campaing promise to vocally and forcefully support the Employee Free Choice Act? Even though it won't pass the House, it would send a powerful message, and energize, those of us who want to turn away from the direction of the past 30 years.
 
 
+26 # Roy Arthur Swanson 2011-03-10 12:20
When I moved to Wisconsin, it was known as the state of Bob LaFollette and Frank Lloyd Wright. It has since then become identifiable as the state of Joe McCarthy, Ed Gein, Jerrey Dahmer, and Scott Walker.
 
 
+10 # in deo veritas 2011-03-10 13:28
Great comment! Dahmer at least got what he deserved thanks to the guys in prison. Unfortunately, the alcoholic lunatic McCarthy hurt far more people with his demagoguery. How many will Walker hurt before he is stopped? Bob LaFollette was the greatest progressive leader we have ever had. What a shame he didn't become president instead of Coolidge, who was a puppet of Wall Street and more rersponsible for the crash than Hoover.
 
 
+25 # Lulie 2011-03-10 12:24
We must abandon the myth that the antidote to the Republicans is the Democrats. The Obama administration has proven once and for all that the Dems are at best weak and at worst Republican-Lite . Something big needs to happen. Revolution? A third party? Some recalls in Wisconsin are important, but this is much bigger than that.
 
 
+15 # in deo veritas 2011-03-10 13:31
We have had Hoovervilles for a long time. They were Reagan Ranches in the '80's. Remember how when homeless people were sacked out on the exhaust grates from govt buildings to stay warm in winter and the Glibber had them evicted? You never hear about the homeless anymore-did they just disappear-like our dignity and rights?
 
 
+10 # davidiste 2011-03-10 13:40
I agree. You can count on right wing methods outside the box of the civilized order that Democrats are still playing in. Push back is not enough. Even if Democrats triumph temporarily because of Republican suicide, the big money will buy Democrats more then they are now. They really don't care about party ideology, just power.
 
 
+6 # davidiste 2011-03-10 13:53
Indeed, the best result would be a third party from the grass roots. The fuel for that will only come from oppression and hard times, still a lot of people with money and a vested interest in keeping this shell game going. We've still got to fall further into dismay while playing out the self serving insanity of the right wing and the head in the sand Democrats.
 
 
+15 # Regina 2011-03-10 12:24
This Depression rerun will give us new Hoovervilles before any real recovery gets accomplished. Well, maybe the shacks will have indoor plumbing this time -- call them Bushvilles.
 
 
+45 # Mongol 2011-03-10 12:33
When will middle class Americans turn off American Idol and Dancing With The Stars and start paying the same amount of attention to what is happening to their lives and their future? The Right is working to give the rich more at the expense of the average worker who struggles to pay for gas and groceries. For God sake stop electing those who work against you. Stop buying the crap that FAUX-News sells. They do not care about you. Or, sit by and watch as they destroy your future and your childrens future.
 
 
+13 # castaway5555 2011-03-10 12:46
Reactionary forces always over-step themselves ... and they sure have in the case of Wisconsin.
 
 
+20 # Riley1 2011-03-10 12:49
They call it Karma. If you do something wrong knowingly it will came back and bite you ten times harder.As we wait and watch we will see the GOP desintegrate in a fashion we have not seen for some time.Gov.Scott Walker will get his come uppence, he will soon roll over to have his tummy tickled by the Koch Brothers that have financed him and his ilk. Those two brothers of the Night will soon tire of him when he looses his usefullness to them. He will be simply consigned to the dustbin of history. How many of you remember the vice president that could not spell. What's his name? Some people like to say "Mr Potatoe" LOL *S*As Australian Americans like to say "Good on ya cobber"Keep hitting em hard Keith.We need rottevilers to savage these buffoons. God save us from some of these lilly livered democrats that act like cowards in the face of the attacks mounted by the Mad,bad,and dangerous GOP.
 
 
+24 # marcelle 2011-03-10 12:51
Because I agree that these actions by Wisconsin and other Republicans affect all of us, I urge us to take legal and ballot box action quickly and resoundingly.
The Wisconsin action exposes the sham the governor and Republican legislators were perpetrating... . how can some issue be both fiscal and not fiscal. If collective bargaining is not a fiscal issue, why make it part of a budget package? Was including it in the budget package really intended to crush unions and with them the middle class and working people? I believe it was and is the goal of the Wisconsin governor (and other Republican governors) and the Republican run legislature. They have wanted to do this since FDR brought in the New Deal and helped end the Great Depression.

If they were sincerely about reducing or eliminating deficit spending, every part of the budget would "be on the table for review"....both revenue and spending. It is not the way of American democracy to cut corporate taxes and make people who pay taxes pay for the lost revenue.;
 
 
+15 # Procyon_Lotor 2011-03-10 13:04
Quoting marcelle:
It is not the way of American democracy to cut corporate taxes and make people who pay taxes pay for the lost revenue.;

True, but it IS the way of American Republicanism - and the republicans are in power - for the moment. Let's see to it that this moment is as short as possible!
 
 
+14 # Ellie 2011-03-10 13:19
No "whimphood" for Obama; he's simply allowing
all sides to reveal themselves. 'Til now, Republicans WANTED him to strong-arm others so they could attack his methods. Now THEY are
revealed in all their true colors.
 
 
+24 # Robert Flynn 2011-03-10 13:00
You are correct. Let's not call them Nazi's. Let's be sure to describe them accurately:
Fascism (pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a radical, authoritarian nationalist political ideology.[1][2] [3][4] Fascists seek to organize a nation according to corporatist perspectives, values, and systems, including the political system and the economy.
Fascists believe that a nation is an organic community that requires strong leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong.[15]
Facist's (not Nazi's) reject individualism and advocate the creation of a single-party state[18] which forbids and suppresses opposition to the fascist state and the fascist movement.[19]

Anything familiar here??
 
 
+9 # A. Zide 2011-03-10 14:07
Quoting Robert Flynn:
Let's be sure to describe them accurately:
Fascism is a radical, authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists seek to organize a nation according to corporatist perspectives, values, and systems, including the political system and the economy.
Fascists believe that a nation is an organic community that requires strong leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong.[15]
Fascists (not Nazis) reject individualism and advocate the creation of a single-party state which forbids and suppresses opposition to the fascist state and the fascist movement.[19]

Anything familiar here??



Balancing the WI. budget on the backs of state workers --mostly women teachers, nurses, secretaries and other modestly paid workers -- and doing so in a sneaky way (=the radical rightwing Repugnican way?) shows utter disrespect and lack of regard for our democracy.


"Fascism should rather be called corporatism, as it is the merging of government and corporate power." --Benito Mussolini
 
 
+32 # Midwestgeezer 2011-03-10 13:01
Thank you Kieth. Hurry back!
"The moving finger writes,
And having writ moves on,
Not all your piety nor wit,
can lure it back to cancel half a line.
Nor all your tears wash out a word of it."
Omar Khayam

I'm a 39 year veteran of the Wisconsin Department of Transportation, retired in 2000. I was there before we had bargaining rights and remember it all too well. A person could be black-balled or favored for the skimpiest of reasons. Belonging to the right lodge, for example. Or the right congregation. One never knew the reason...
These Radical faux-Republican s have sown the wind and will reap the whirlwind!
ON TO RECALL (the political guillotine)!!
 
 
+3 # Virgil Cain 2011-03-10 18:27
Well said
 
 
+21 # jcadams 2011-03-10 13:05
I really believe that Mr. Olbermann’s recent engineered exit from MSNBC was no accident or coincidence. The GOP and their corporate handlers wanted him out of the way for the planned GOP takeover of Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana and Ohio.
 
 
+19 # Gail 2011-03-10 13:06
I'm not certain that they won't get away with this obvious power grab. I have heard nothing about Wisconsin except via the Internet and MSNBC. It is not beingo coveredy by the Networks. NPR's coverage is so minimal it might as well not take up the air time. And Fox News covers it as though the unions are thugs and fat cats themselves.
 
 
+13 # davidiste 2011-03-10 13:49
Add to that the recent feature by Naomi Klein and Rachel Madow on what's going on in Michigan, no one else is talking about this ever more outrageous official action on the part of elected state governors to usurp power in their state and hand it over to their donors. Corporate media will cover it only when blood is spilled or somehow police are involved. Even then you can't expect them to portray the circumstances as they are, rather as they prefer.
 
 
+36 # ccwilliams07 2011-03-10 13:08
I'm afraid it's too late. The United States has been taken over and it's too late to do anything about it. We should've been out in the streets after the Supreme Court gave the presidency to the man who didn't win it. When 99% of the money is concentrated in the top 1% of the country - and even THAT isn't enough for them - the rest of us are their slaves, and their proving that to us in the north. They've had the south for several generations.
 
 
+25 # davidiste 2011-03-10 13:45
Absolutely right. The moment to fight or play on a equal footing was when the Supreme court squashed voting and in came Bush 2. That same dynamic has expanded for the right and nothing notable has yet changed anywhere else. They still push their methods outside what everyone else thinks is fair and ethical or even legal. This means even in a land of laws they'll break them and still win because money wins, not what's fair. Wake up America. Democrats are better only by comparison, not a good standard. We are returning to the state this country was founded in, lords and serfs, exploitation of the natives.
 
 
+13 # giraffe 2011-03-10 14:56
Quoting ccwilliams07:
I'm afraid it's too late. The United States has been taken over and it's too late to do anything about it. We should've been out in the streets after the Supreme Court gave the presidency to the man who didn't win it. When 99% of the money is concentrated in the top 1% of the country - and even THAT isn't enough for them - the rest of us are their slaves, and their proving that to us in the north. They've had the south for several generations.


2000= strike 1 "W"
2010= strike 2 "Kock-brother + big $ buy our elections.
2011-2012 = Thomas / Scalia whoring for the Kock brothers will bring the cream to the top - if Kock brother's "anything" appear before the Supremes and Thomas/Scalia do not recuse. Thomas looks like a dead fish (re TAX) and if anybody appears before the Supremes for TAX anything -- THE END to the "Scalia / Thomas" reign of terror.

My sadness came when John Paul Stevens retired -- a Justice of the higest quality and fairness in every way.
 
 
+3 # Cutler 2011-03-10 14:57
I agree.
 
 
+2 # Anarchist 23 2011-03-11 10:24
Some of us were in the streets in 200-for that matter I was in DC in 72 against Nixon-yeah and in Chicago in 68 against the war-not the big protests of the convention-the one after MLKJr. was shot. To reverse what is happening will take something like th Egyptian protests-or maybe Russia in 1917-unfortunat ely we know how that ended-and the French Revolution gae way to Napoleon-not sure people have learned anything much as of yet!
 
 
+25 # Archie1954 2011-03-10 13:09
Those Wisconsin voters who elected a majority Republican government should be squirming in their seats about now. Elections are not a game, they are deadly serious! Try to remember that.
 
 
+8 # Rachel Fitzgerald 2011-03-10 13:15
Perhaps the insanity of cannibalism will overtake the corporate me first types. That could mean that they will choke on the impossible-to-d igest contradictions which characterize their thinking. I hope that happens, God forgive me.
 
 
-67 # Jack Schlatter 2011-03-10 13:18
I feel so sorry for liberals who suffer from an advanced case of diaper rash of the brain...they forget that two of their 'saints' FDR and George Meaney were against unions for public employees...In two years of total control the Obamaites have created massive unemployment, higher gas prices, more dedication among Islamic fascists, a tripling of the national defecit and what do they have to show for it...Keep screaming you little babies and watch what an awakened Amcerica does to you in 2012....you have my sympathy
 
 
+18 # Cutler 2011-03-10 15:01
Did you sleep through the Bush W. era? Sounds like you need a bit of catching up with recent history
 
 
+14 # fredboy 2011-03-10 13:23
Right again, Keith.

Yet the rank and file GOPers and teabaggers are so brainwashed they don't realize they are slicing their own--and their children's--thr oats. I know some who directly voted for GOP candidates knowing those candidates pledged to destroy programs essential to those voters. When they did, the idiots still declared loyalty to the GOP.

I think they have put Republican ahead of American in their minds and hearts.

And the brainwashing continues...
 
 
+12 # marxist3000 2011-03-10 13:26
I have no doubt that there will be civil unrest and possible violence as a result of the conservative assault on our freedoms. They've used violence on the poor for over 300 years in America. It will be a fight to the end.

I don't feel that Democrats can effectively represent the left anymore (not that they ever had, since FDR). Obama may ymean well, but he's leaned way too far to the right. Other Dems are passing tax-cuts, increasing military build-ups, etc., etc. It's time to suceed from the Democratic Party and form a grass-roots liberal movement that will actually have a pais. We need a left-wing "Tea Party"!
 
 
+10 # davidiste 2011-03-10 13:56
Democrats including Clinton and Obama moved to the center to get elected partly out of a lack of confidence in being truly Democrats. They would say it was being realistic, but that line they cross to be "reasonable" and WIN is already past the point of selling out on the ethics for which the party is supposed to represent. Both parties sold out. If the Republicans skewer themselves in the next round of elections the big money will just be applied to buying Democrats, different style but similar results.
 
 
+1 # aikidokurt 2011-03-10 18:24
see yesterday's post: The Birth of the People's Party
by Robert Reich, Robert Reich's Blog
 
 
-7 # rock 2011-03-12 01:00
Please, please do it! Be sure to mention Karl Marx - that will get you a ton of votes . . . hurry!
 
 
+24 # fredboy 2011-03-10 13:32
On Feb. 23 Walker got repeated standing ovations from the Wisconsin Manufacturing and Commerce group, one of the largest and most active business groups in the state.

So please don't hesitate to boycott Wisconsin travel, goods, and services. The businesses involved are supporting this legislative fiasco.
 
 
+12 # vdelgoriosr 2011-03-10 13:49
The question is, How did Americans especially the people of Wisconsin allow this to happen? The answer is you can fool some of the people some of the time and you can fool some of the people all of the time but, you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Look out Redical Republicans you time has come.
 
 
+13 # Roy H 2011-03-10 13:51
As a resident of eastern WA and a USWA memeber I'm absolutely proud and totally focused everyday on your brave battle to maintain your union barganing rights. When all is said and done let the message be made vividly clear that unions have the right to exist and will never ever surrender to Republican/Demo cartic dicatators
 
 
+10 # bettyaharris 2011-03-10 13:52
How much money will the corporations throw at the next election to put out enough lies in the media that will convince the voluntarily ignorant voters to vote them in again? I'm not rejoicing until I see it happen.
 
 
+15 # Tom Sweeney 2011-03-10 13:53
Keith,
'Keep up the great work...I thought there might be a revolution in my daughter's lifetime but I think we'll see one in my lifetime!
 
 
+7 # Russ Offenbach 2011-03-10 13:56
Glad to have your sorely missed indignation available once again. You're oral delivery is almost as important as your written prose, so hopefully we'll get to see and/or hear you again. Good night and ...
 
 
+8 # Geri Kenyon 2011-03-10 14:15
Well analyzed, well said, and right on! The demise of the GOP can't come soon enough -
 
 
+2 # nogmo 2011-03-10 14:17
We need Anarchists for Republicans!
This is like the campaigns:
Anarchists for Jim Gilcrest (of the minutemen)
or Anarchists for Jim Torrey (mayor of Eugene)

It will be fun!
 
 
+12 # Gorvop 2011-03-10 14:27
Knowing well that these sort of shenanigans may soon take place in other States I am reminded of my Culinary Union President Father's words in the 60's "some day we may just need to have a Union Solidarity Strike to straiten out this mess".
It would take less than a week to bring this Rabble to it's knees with a Country wide Unified Union Walkout. Heck, in a couple of days the lack of being able to conduct commerce and transport would certainly redefine the conversation focus about rights to bargain. Yes it is true that Money talks and is a form of power, but our Society is dependent upon people services for anything to continue to work smoothly. If the Big Ten Service unions were to flex their muscles in solidarity it would become very clear that The People Hold All Trumps when they unify to show just how true that is. America runs well because of the little common people, riling them may not be such a great idea! We are not known as the "United" States for nothing.
 
 
+6 # DIAMONDMARGE 2011-03-10 14:44
Keith, m'dear,
Absolutely love your wordplay: "Koch-sucker"~H ow did THAT ever get past whatever censors?
IMO, the suicide of the Rethuglicans can't come too soon~
Also, really enjoyed all of the comments~
 
 
+8 # bill davis 2011-03-10 14:44
Would someone please tell Governor Walker that I know where he can buy several thousand gross of brown shirts cheap?
 
 
+11 # granny 2011-03-10 14:44
It's true that the mainstream media are not covering the Walker coup the way they are covering Charley Sheen, Lindsay Lohan and M. Ghadafi. That means we must use citizens media, loudly and consistently. And we must contact the media moguls with letters, calls and visits, demanding them that they exercise OUR rights to know. If everyone made one call or wrote one letter, we'd see some changes.
 
 
+5 # tsubow 2011-03-10 14:56
Keith, Glad to have your voice in the mix. As always, you make a fine point.
I'm hoping the workers connect the dots and take this fight to the national level as well. Republicans are showing their hand all over the place. Sadly the DNC and our President can't seem to find a microphone. We're in it by ourselves. That's o.k. as long as we know the score.
 
 
+15 # DorothyK 2011-03-10 15:46
I just finished 'The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich'- The first they did to gain control of the people? Destroy the unions and collective bargaining. Wake up people! This is the first step toward all out fascist government. As a 'Boomer' and at 65 years old, I have seen our government
as it is supposed to work. This isn't it.
 
 
+1 # racetoinfinity 2011-03-11 00:45
You said itQuoting DorothyK:
I just finished 'The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich'- The first they did to gain control of the people? Destroy the unions and collective bargaining. Wake up people! This is the first step toward all out fascist government. As a 'Boomer' and at 65 years old, I have seen our government
as it is supposed to work. This isn't it.


You said it!
 
 
+1 # General Mayhem 2011-03-12 23:25
I absolutely agree Dorothy. The difference is the number of statesmen in the political arena. It is not the government that is the problem. It really is the political war that goes on. "Can we get elected? How much hand magic must we do?" They seem to be masters of illusion.
 
 
+5 # Leslie Schwartz 2011-03-10 15:50
I hope I live long enough to see the demise of the current batch of GOP and "Democrat" supporters of all of these MANY anti-worker, anti-labor policies, including the exports of millions of jobs as if they do not matter.
A demise therefore that would remove Obama from government as well.
 
 
+5 # Regina 2011-03-10 19:50
"...remove Obama from government..."? ?? You'd like maybe Gingrich or Rove instead??? If we strengthen the sane base for Obama, maybe he'd feel less pressured to crawl for "compromise" and "bipartisanship ." Maybe the Dinos would stop selling us out -- like Ben Nelson etc.
 
 
+2 # billy bob 2011-03-11 14:40
Absolutely. I think we need to force DINOs like President Obama to deal with a long painful primary process against someone to their left. If they lose, we get the guy we want. If they win, the general election is no longer the place to air our issues with them. If we can't beat them from the left we need to support them against someone who wants to beat them from the extreme far right.
 
 
+7 # Rita Walpole Ague 2011-03-10 15:52
RECALL KOCH-SUCKERS! Thank you, Keith, for all you do, have done, and for this, the greatest logo we could ever hope for.

I'm getting ready to do a poor girl/poor boy car window sticker (gets taped into the rear window). Simple job - 72 pt. Ariel Narrow in bold face works well. Might even get fancy and have a big as you can get blow-up done at Kinko's or another local print shop - costs about five bucks, and taped onto large, cheap poster boards, it'll make great yard and window signs when not being carried at demonstrations.

If the evil villainaire rulers get away with this in Wisconsin, the rest of the country will follow in short order. Time for us, regardless of party or the lack thereof, to follow Pres. Ike's old advice, and get to work to UNDO THE COUP.

VILLAINIARES - GO TO HELL! Three good window sticker and sign board logos, but yours is best by a long shot. Now, what can we come up with to remind folks, nationwide, to force their votes to be counted and counted correctly? How about: KOCH-SUCKED & VOTE-PLUCKED - the U.S.A. today!
 
 
+7 # Joseph DeMarco 2011-03-10 16:39
SENATOR LASEE AND THE REST OF THE WISCONCIN REPUBLICANS;

THE OBVIOUS HAS COME TO LIGHT: SCOTT WALKER IS AN ARROGANT LYING
SACK OF S--T ! HE IS A DISGRACE TO THE DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT, HE AND ALL THE REPUBLICANS ,WHO VOTED AGAINST COLLECTIVE BARGAINING FOR WORKERS ,CERTAINLY INDICATED THAT THEY (THE REPUBLICANS ) ARE IN BED WITH BIG BUSINESS AND CORPORATIONS, THERE IS NO OTHER CONCLUSUION.

IF THEY CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT, AFTER WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, THEY WILL HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE LORD ON THEIR DAY OF RECKONING.

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND FOR THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING SYSTEM FOR AMERICAN WORKERS, THAT IS THE AMERICA THAT I FOUGHT FOR.

JOE DEMARCO
WW 2 VETERAN
Kieth, SORRY THAT MY "SACK OF SHIT" DOESN'T COMPARE WITH YOUR "KOCH SUCKER" REFERENCE, YOU ARE SO RIGHT ----AGAIN!
 
 
+2 # jwolfbauer 2011-03-10 17:29
Thanks again Keith for your possition on what is happening in Madison, WI

The GOP once again showed their hand at trying to take the rights of the American people out of their own hands.

Putting this country in danger of STRIKES EVERYWHERE.

Our country will be pulled apart by the GOP!
 
 
+2 # Sharon Current 2011-03-10 18:06
My heart is heavy as I see what the Reps. have been doing. I knew their hearts, but I never thought they'd boldly lie in front of the nation to get their way. God bless the middle class and poor. May they rise up and vote the Reps. OUT OF POWER. Sadly, I believe that the Wisconsin Rep.s ran people who expected to come in, do their dirty work, then get voted out. I don't think they care if they are recalled or voted out. Hopefully, there will be a way to fix this horrid mess. I live in Ohio and we also have a wicked Gov. who hates unions and the working class.
 
 
+2 # aikidokurt 2011-03-10 18:10
until every worker can vote for their boss, the boss has no right investing the collective fruits of "our" labor in the political process; his interests may run counter to the workers...I just work for you, bud! I don't have to support your political views de facto!
make a personal contribution instead, like the rest of us "real" people; corporate imaginaries need not apply!
 
 
+3 # theshowpro 2011-03-10 19:38
Koch sucker is RIGHT!
 
 
+5 # Richi Ray Harris 2011-03-10 19:50
My family wouldn't exist if it weren't for a strong union in the forties and fifties, the ILWU. To play at the Fillmore in 1966, Bill Graham personally joined me in the musician's union, not so great a union in the sixties, but the ideal was the same...to protect me from getting burned. not that Bill would have. I wish that every gig I've played since was a union gig because it is great to have a least a little job security and arbitration on your side. All my life I've wished that we could catch up with the rest of the civilised world that has workers rights.
 
 
-12 # RJClawson 2011-03-10 20:54
"...the cross-eyed Koch-sucker..."

I'm a long-time fan, Keith, but this comment is beneath mud-slinging, beneath Limbaugh language.
 
 
+11 # msrplaisir 2011-03-10 21:37
The problem is folk have still not learned that 20th-21st century Republicans are anti worker and unions, anti people legislation and for only gazillionaires and mega corporations. Once they have their cheap source of labor, they might be happy. It's sad because the voters voted them in; that's what happens when people vote out of anger, fear and bigotry, all of which Republicans know how to stoke.

Lesson to be learned--I hope.
 
 
+3 # Greywolf 2011-03-10 21:39
It would seem to me the same money elects Democrats as Republicans. The difference is, for the most part, Republicans have become more blatant in there bowing to their corporate masters and the Democrats aqueous in legislative silence.
 
 
+6 # Bradley Emden 2011-03-10 22:17
the republican party has been taken over by treasonous thugs and criminals. They have already stole trillions from the national treasury and the tax payers. The dems wont move on these thugs because they do not want to upset what used to be a legitimate political party. It no longer is. Multiple dictator governors, who are essentially no better than mafia bosses. Its time to start prosecuting these criminals. The feds need to step in.
 
 
+4 # VSweet 2011-03-10 22:21
Scott Walker thinks he is so powerful he is god. Woe to Scott when the living God shows up and gives Scott a taste of his own evil deeds.
Regarding the RECALL
"It doesn't matter who casts the ballots. What matters is who counts the ballots."

"I looked up the word politics in the dictionary. It's actually a combination of two words: poli, which means many, and tics, which means bloodsuckers."
Jay Leno on "The Tonight Show"

"There is no difference between the two parties. They are both Globalists, with Big Business interests, not American interests. We need Statesmen who look to the future, not Politicians who look to the hand that feeds them."
Donna Voetee
 
 
+9 # Rara Avis 2011-03-10 22:22
In Wisconsin private citizens take very seriously the rule of law. We also are active participants in the government we have given consent to govern us.

Just one point: I have not forfeited my right to be notified about what my State Government was legislating. The Open Meetings Law requires 24 hours notice and even in emergencies, which this was not, 2 hours and not the one hour 51 minutes it took to take away rights I value very much.

The consent of the governed and the accountability of my government to me, the citizen, has been valued with the very lives of others and that price I am willing to pay as well.

This is not diaper rash on the brain or having taken myself out of the right to participate in the democratic process. The doors of the capitol building were locked late yesterday, in defiance of a court order during regular business hours while inside, others were stealing my rights and disrespecting democracy.

Am I whining? Please tell me. Or should I just sit back and enjoy the tyranny under which we now live?
 
 
+6 # Mark B 2011-03-10 22:32
I'm thrilled to see the energy in everyone's comments, unfortunately the election machines are a smaller part of the first problem that has to be solved. Public financing of elections. I live in Nor Cal and it doesn't get more liberal than here. Every time I bring up the subject it either gets a yawn or a no way. We don't vote and we don't want to buy our politicians but the corporations do. A Senator has to raise $10,000 a day to get reelected. That was a quote from a Repugnitan Senator on Bill Maher last year. What kind of government do we expect?
I'm convinced that only when we pour into the streets will anything start to change. This will happen when the Repugnatins go for the throat of Social Security and Medicare. Then and only then will the masses go to the streets. Then they will have truly over-reached. Stay tuned, you know they can't resist
 
 
+1 # racetoinfinity 2011-03-11 00:28
I don't know if Walker is cross-eyed, but his eyes look dead and soulless to me, as befits someone who only cares about money and power.
 
 
+4 # normr 2011-03-11 01:12
Citizens of Wisconsin

Please answer this 1 question for all of us.

Why did you vote these scumbags in in the first place?
 
 
+2 # ligonlaw 2011-03-11 01:45
The genius of the Republican Party is that they continue to convince people they are hurting that they are their only hope. They do it by convincing the naive that hatred of minorities is a patriotic duty.
 
 
+9 # Rumpole 2011-03-11 02:08
It is too late Keith... Let’s be honest, the Republicans and their ruling oligarchy billionaire backers have for all intents and purposes already over-thrown the United States Government as we knew it. What other explanation is there when 25% of the population (those identifying themselves as Republicans) can effectively rule the country where majority rule used to mean 50% of the vote plus one. Up to this year they ran the Senate with 40 votes out of 100 – I rest my case.
 
 
+2 # Ryan 2011-03-11 02:08
As much as I dislike what the Republicans they do get what they want. The Democrats claim to be for the "little" people but it seems to me just smoke and mirrors. They do not fight for us. They cave in to the right after putting on a little show. How long until we see it is time to push reset and start over. Too corrupt. I am not voting anymore myself.
 
 
+1 # Walter Brewster 2011-03-11 09:31
"an event that cannot come a minute to soon for"

Please change typo "to" to TOO. Thanks.
 
 
+4 # jahftx 2011-03-11 09:56
This latest parliamentary trick by the GOP is only the beginning. They have the money so they will continue to win elections. Unions will continue to be busted. Politicians will continue to lower taxes for the wealthy and find new expensive wars to spend our money on. Deficits will continue to rise and things like infrastructure will crumble and free public education will disappear. And we will like our new third world status because the guy on TV or radio will tell us to.
 
 
+2 # racetoinfinity 2011-03-11 22:15
also, they will continue to try to use dirty tricks and rigging by local legislatures to depress voting by Democrats (Rachel Maddow, among others, is on the case re this.)
 
 
+3 # Koslo 2011-03-11 11:29
In case people forget, especially republicans, the Dow Jones stock fund was 6,500 when Obama took office, it is now 12,000. Why don't the Demos put up bill boardsor just once in a great while mention this? Are you too timid?
 
 
+4 # mpreb658@earthlink.net 2011-03-11 12:15
"[Walker's] eyes look dead and soulless ..."
I agree and was desperately trying to think of an apt description, which you now have provided. All I can add is that he gives me chills down deep into my bones. There's nothing there but a puppet who doesn't know his strings are being pulled to prop him up until....
 
 
-3 # tim fuller 2011-03-11 14:49
ok, but we're still talking to and among ourselves-- nothing changes until we can speak their language, the language that speaks from our shared principles of one for all and all for one -- something both liberal and conservatives use a base values... tim
 
 
+2 # Darlene 2011-03-11 21:44
I am glad to read Keith's comments. What will he say about the concerted effort to prevent college students and minorities, from voting in future elections? It is happening across the country, with republicans submitting atrocious bills to make registration difficult. It is a shame that the republicans are trying to destroy democracy in the name of corporations and the very rich. It is a class war!!!
 
 
0 # Tom Spellman 2011-03-12 04:24
And this goes on and will go on because Keith and the progressive media still refuses to even discuss the simple statement of Dr Steven Jones, a physicist, who made the following observation that changed his life and mine and thousands of others as well. Random fires and Random damage CAN NOT produce a symmetrical event. He made that comment after seeing a video of the "collapse" of World Trade Center Building 7!!! Science is that simple.

If you understand or remember how powder is made, you will understand that the “DUST” was freshly produced POWDER and it is yet another proof! If you do not remember how then go back to high school chemistry and use the mortar and pestle. Yes POWDER is produced by grinding. It can also be produced by explosives! When will they ever learn???
 
 
+3 # GarnTurner 2011-03-12 09:36
Noise and fury are all very well, but why aren't people going for the Koch Brothers' fortunes? They are billionaires, sure, but their money doesn't fall out of the clouds, it's made from the sale of products and services. Boycott any Georgia-Pacific products, Brawny paper towels, Dixie cups and plates, Mardi-Gras napkins, Angel Soft toilet paper, Quilted Northern toilet paper, Sparkle paper towels. Leave Stainmaster carpets in the warehouse and clothes containing Lycra fiber on the shelves.
 
 
0 # General Mayhem 2011-03-12 23:19
It interests me that the Republican party was the party of The Great Emancipator, Lincoln. It wasn't that long ago, in the history of this country, that the country and the party were truly great.
Maybe we will resurrect the Royalists ....Oh, wait, we already have. They call themselves....R epublicans!
 
 
+1 # john marshall 2011-03-12 23:37
I truly miss you Keith on MSNBC but I still watch Rachel, Ed, Chris, Lawrence. I refuse to watch Joe Scarborough. He belongs on Fox News.
The Republicans have niggerized the union workers in Wisconsin. Black people have been suffering under these Republicans since Herbert Hoover. We Blacks have known them a long time; and now a large segment of America is watching those ruthless Republicans commit political suicide in Wisconsin.
 
 
+1 # Neil Jensen 2011-03-13 13:46
Gov. Scott Walker is to Wisconsin what Pete Wilson was to California. Who was Pete Wilson? He was the governor out here in the Golden State who pushed through Proposition 186, which denied all government services to illegal aliens (aka as Mexicans. No hospital emergency room service. No public schools for children. The law passed. Wilson won re-election. The law was declared unconstitutiona l; but it motivated a large number of people to become citizens and register to vote as Democrats. As a result not a single elected state office today is held by a Republican. (not necessarily a good situation) Thank you Pete Wilson.
 
 
+1 # Michael Dutton 2011-03-14 15:37
When can we expect the festival of the suicide to begin?
 

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