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Intro: "Attempts to ban talk of birth control and homosexuality from classrooms reveal conservatives' deepest sexual fears."

Right-wing conservatives have pushed 'gateway sexual activity' bills. (photo: Everett Collection via Shutterstock)
Right-wing conservatives have pushed 'gateway sexual activity' bills. (photo: Everett Collection via Shutterstock)

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-35 # MidwestTom 2012-05-07 09:47
The harder they push Gay rights and same sex marriage on populations who do not believe in them, the stronger the response. Gays have been ib this country forever, but when the government forces schools to teach ideas that disagree with the beliefs of the majority view of area populations there will be strong push back.
+33 # kyzipster 2012-05-07 11:30
Homosexuality has been around since forever and gay teens have an extremely rough time of it. Stop blaming the gays for this frightening element in the population. We do not dare back down to this fascism.
+6 # ericlipps 2012-05-07 16:46
Quoting MidwestTom:
The harder they push Gay rights and same sex marriage on populations who do not believe in them, the stronger the response. Gays have been ib this country forever, but when the government forces schools to teach ideas that disagree with the beliefs of the majority view of area populations there will be strong push back.

"They"? Wo ist das "they"?

Oh, and by the way, suppose "the beliefs of the majority view of area populations" include such things as creationism. Should science classes be butchered to accommodate such beliefs? Or suppose--just suppose--the beliefs of a majority in some area were to favor polygamy? How about that? What do we do when the majority of what is, believe it or not, a minority of the population just happen to be wrong?
+10 # Billy Bob 2012-05-07 18:29
According to the Pew Research Center only 43% of Americans oppose same sex marriage.

Homosexuality isn't "an idea" any more than skin color is. It's a fact of life. Some people would rather turn a blind eye than face reality.
+7 # davidr 2012-05-07 18:45
In the majority view of area populations, Galileo was wrong. The more assiduously he pushed his evidence for heliocentricity , the greater the pushback.

Yet even while Galileo was still alive and in disgrace with the Church, it was impossible to call oneself scientifically educated without having accepted the evidence for heliocentrism.

In the medieval formulation, Galileo stood for experience (learning through observation during time in the world), while his adversaries stood for authority (knowing through revealed truth or authorized interpreters of same).

Galileo's main crime had nothing to do with planetary orbits. His main crime lay in the idea that, in fact finding, authority must submit itself to experience. Science must therein dictate to the Church.

Those who benefit from or crave an unexamined view of Leviticus (or who wield power through plain prejudice) will not want to hear anything about homosexuality in their schools. On homosexuality and many other matters, these folks depise the fact-based world, and candidly say as much. We should not look to them for educational policy.
+4 # soularddave 2012-05-07 20:04
"They" may push back harder, but "they" are fewer and fewer. These crusades to get legislation enacted are merely organizing tools to maintain a following, like rallying against immigrants, communists, and anyone who isn't one of them. Taken as a whole, they are convenient little groups for a frantic political party to pander to for political support.
+27 # CoyoteMan50 2012-05-07 11:15
This is a wedge issue that keeps people divided during an election year!
Their prudery is false! They are big corporation tools who respond to marching orders from Wall St., banksters, corporations and the rich!
These issues only attempt to divide voters along other lines rather than addressing the real problems of our nation. Most of all our now useless media should be reporting these loonie tunes as time-wasters not letting them on TV to spew their crap.
Don't be fooled and get dragged into this baloney
+27 # szq5777 2012-05-07 11:17
It is obvious that republicans want to control everyones sex life and sexualiy!The fear of sexuality seems ingrained in thier genetic code. I have often thought that republican brains are wired wrong! I think they belong on a different planet.
+6 # Doubter 2012-05-07 13:00
If it feels good it MUST be bad
and don't forget,
Ignorance is Bliss!
+22 # Listner 2012-05-07 11:20
Tom, nobody is "forcing" this discussion on anybody. If you're going to have an intelligent discussion about sex , these things(homosexu ality, puberty, birth control, etc.) MUST be included. To make an informed decision, you have to have facts.
I think this is another example of fear being the motivating factor.These people who draft this legislation have obviously never been throughly informed themselves or they wouldn't think like this. Gay people were around in the time of Christ so wishing they would go away is just not going to happen.If you choose not to associate with gay people thats your decision to make. If you vilify them that's foolish.It spreads hatred that is unjustified. Who taught you to hate? We aren't born with hatred. Somebody has to teach it to you.
+26 # Grizzled 2012-05-07 12:25
I've tried to be tolerant of the conservative movement, but I'm starting to get to the point that I really don't give a damn about their point of view. This simply for the fact that they are stifling my freedoms. You don't have to use contraception, but I want people to know about it. You don't have to have an abortion, but I sure don't want the gov't dictating that the procedure is not available. I can think of much easier life style choices than being gay, but I don't want some poor kid committing suicide because they have no clue about sexual orientation and are bullied to death.....Speak ing of which, Hey Michelle Bachmann, how about that rash of gay teen suicides in your district? Excellent job of protecting the people you represent.
+14 # Kimberly999 2012-05-07 16:27
If people in Tennessee understood science, they would know that humans are biologically engineered to procreate as soon as our bodies can. Ignoring this has historically backfired. The countries with the lowest number of abortions are those with the best sexual education and easy access to contraception - not the ones with the strictest honor codes. The Christian Taliban needs to stand down here and let common sense rule.
+6 # Billy Bob 2012-05-07 18:35
I guess now kids will finally be able to go back to learning about the "birds and the bees" the way they used to: through rumors spouted by other kids, through trial and error, and through porn.

I used to work with the severely mentally retarded. These men had I.Q.s below 25. Most of them had no measurable I.Q. at all.

ALL of them had obvious and frequently displayed sexual desires, preferences and habits. Many of those habits proved the fact that they didn't need to be taught in school.

Sex ed is actually about DEALING with sex, not having it. It doesn't take a lot of "book-larnin'" to figure out HOW to do it. It take a LOT of education to learn how to deal with the realities of it and its consequences.

I wonder if any of these states can be held legally liable for NOT teaching kids about sex ed. Children of 15 year old parents ought to be able to sue for all of the opportunities they'll never had, simply because the state wanted them to be born quick.
+8 # Richard1908 2012-05-07 18:45
America - you are a joke and your ethics and morals are positively impenetrable - and hypocritical. I don't watch television in my country (Australia) because so much of it is American produced. All it consists of is sex, guns, and violence, revenge, passion and desperate housewives in different locales including the family home, police departments and hospitals. And then, God forbid, there are gay sit-coms!

I hope the various laws to protect your young people will also preclude them from watching your American television programs lest they see instances of puberty, homosexuality or 'gateway sex'.

Keeping your young kids innocent of sex will all be worthwhile of course. You will be able to send your children off to war to be killed and they will die pure of mind and still virgins. Won't that be wonderful?
+6 # futhark 2012-05-07 19:51
The issue of sexuality reveals one of the greatest paradoxes in the thinking of self-confessed "conservatives" . These people like to think of themselves as favoring policies that protect the rights of the people to live in "freedom" without being subject to the dictates of a strong, centralized government. While professing their support of individual freedom, they seek to use the power of the state to frustrate those who want to exercise their right to pursue happiness as they see fit, without overt harm to others. So these loud mouth "conservatives" , while championing liberty, at the same time want the state to impose their personal behavioral standards on others through the force of law.

This paradoxical attitude about sexuality needs to be raised on all appropriate occasions, so that everyone can appreciate how little consistency and how much hypocrisy is being broadcast. The last thing real conservatives (those who profess to stand for individual rights) should be promoting is government regulation of sexual conduct.
+5 # propsguy 2012-05-07 20:10
i predict these states will see explosions in unwed pregnancies. sex happens.if you repress it, it will still bubble up in an expression, probably unhealthy for the repression
-5 # oldman68 2012-05-07 20:54
God is not going to bless the U.S.He may turn it into a Sodom & Gomorrah type event one day.
+2 # Billy Bob 2012-05-08 09:04
Overpopulation and unregulated conservative business practices will do the job for him.
+3 # freeportguy 2012-05-08 00:06
These people think they live in the movie " The Village", where "concerned" parents create a totally isolated world to "protect" their kids from contemporary life.

As if legislating could ever stop any human phenomenons: puberty, desire, feelings, curiosity.

What's next, legislating against "having to go to the bathroom" as a cost saving initiative and environmentally friendly measure? Think we wouldn't have to go then?

The Republican idea of small and non intrusive government...
+2 # billeeboy 2012-05-08 13:42
What is wrong with teenagers having sex? Sex is a natural human function. Teenagers have been having sex since the dawn of time and still do in many areas of the world. Having sex as a teenager is only a problem if contraception is not used or if there is any coercion involved. But sex itself.......en joy! The real problem is the prevalence of Western religions which in order to enshrine patriarchal power dictate how people "should" and "should not" behave. IMHO there is only one "should" and that is to "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Other than that stay out of other peoples lives!
0 # szq5777 2012-05-10 05:37
Republicans are idiots. You can't legislate morality!
0 # szq5777 2012-05-10 05:42
Republicans are idiots. You can't legislate morality. They say they want "government" out of our lives and then proceed to want the government to control who we have sex with, who we marry, who we love, how we love and even when we love. What a bunch of hypocrits!

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