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The New York Times: "Undermining public unions - and the support they give to Democrats - has been a long-sought goal of the Republican Party and many of its corporate backers. Koch Industries, one of the party's biggest supporters, spent $1.2 million last year to help elect Mr. Walker and other Republican governors who want to eliminate or reduce bargaining rights. On Wednesday, the State Senate's Republican leader, Scott Fitzgerald, told Fox News that if unions lose the battle for their rights, they would have less money to help President Obama win re-election."

Demonstrators gather in the Capitol rotunda in Wisconsin, 03/10/11. (photo: Scott Olson/Getty Images)
Demonstrators gather in the Capitol rotunda in Wisconsin, 03/10/11. (photo: Scott Olson/Getty Images)

It's Not Over in Wisconsin

By The New York Times | Editorial

11 March 11

Republican lawmakers in Wisconsin have reversed half-a-century's middle-class progress in the state by erasing collective-bargaining rights for public employees. Union members, caught off guard and infuriated by the Senate vote on Wednesday and the Assembly vote on Thursday, immediately talked of legal challenges and general strikes, but the outcome was probably inevitable given the Republican success in the 2010 elections. Now union members have to make sure they do not stay away from the polls again when their rights are at stake.

The vote, pushed by Gov. Scott Walker, would have happened weeks ago if Democratic state senators had not fled to Illinois to deprive the Senate of the supermajority it needs to pass bills that are considered fiscal matters. Republicans then moved the bargaining rights from a larger budget bill to a separate bill that they could pass by proclaiming that the rights were not a fiscal issue.

And, in doing so, they reluctantly exposed the real truth behind the maneuver: stripping the unions of their rights was never about the budget, especially once the unions had agreed to significant concessions on pensions and health care. It was always about politics. Governor Walker had hoped to hide behind a cooked-up budget crisis, but the fleeing Democrats at least succeeded in pulling away that facade.

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+58 # JayMagoo 2011-03-11 12:25
The Republicans' attack on democratic institutions is no surprise. Especially since it's funded by a couple of right-wing billionaires. Maybe now the Democrats who stayed home in the mid-term elections of 2010 and conceded the election to the phony Tea-Party movement, will realize now what is at stake.
 
 
+27 # mtnview 2011-03-11 15:29
Anyone who blames this mess on a variety of scapegoats is committing the same sin. It was not our President, as lame as he is, nor the voters who stayed home. Nor was it the Reps or the Dems. Rather the designers of this downward spiral are the elite wealthy, with aid from 1970's neo-cons. It is Class Warfare, and only We the People can change this course in history. The key question? Are we willing to die for democracy as our ancestors did. Until then, its just meaningless blame shifting.
 
 
+3 # Gary Ray Pierson 2011-03-12 10:11
Quoting mtnview:
Anyone who blames this mess on a variety of scapegoats is committing the same sin. It was not our President, as lame as he is, nor the voters who stayed home. Nor was it the Reps or the Dems. Rather the designers of this downward spiral are the elite wealthy, with aid from 1970's neo-cons. It is Class Warfare, and only We the People can change this course in history. The key question? Are we willing to die for democracy as our ancestors did. Until then, its just meaningless blame shifting.

Die for democracy and be forgotten... Just like all us war vets. Forgotten... Especially us old draftees.. It was us draftees that told America the truth. A volunteer Army will be more than happy to let YOU die for democracy.. They'll figure it out after they killed Mom and Pop on orders.. Since some of us have already stood against being shot dead.. Take your turn or put your body where your mouth will be if you do, In the dirt.! But the GOP did us all wrong. BIG TIME! BETTER THAN THE JFK COUP DE TAT' A Twin Ringer! Cpl.Pierson, 101st Vietnam..
 
 
+2 # rf 2011-03-14 05:52
For the last 60 years or more vets haven't been dying for Democracy, but dying for the healthy profits of corporations. Vietnam was the mess that sent us down this road. Cannon fodder or Republican voter...same crap...someone who is easily fooled.
 
 
+59 # in deo veritas 2011-03-11 13:00
What will it take for the sheeple to do something about the fascist movement? THey will either bring it to its knees or we do not deserve to exist as a democracy. It is a politically ignorant electorate fueled by propaganda and financed by the greatest thieves in history who have brought us to this. The terms right wing and conservative do not apply to those behind this corruption of what America used to stand for. These are neomazis. Take time to read up on what happened in Germany and you will see that each step being taken is from Uncle Adolf's playbook-secure funding from the industrialists- destroy the unions- control the news media and as Goebbels said "the third reich was built on propaganda". Demonizing Muslims by Rep King is just like the demonizing of the Jews by Hitler The Greedy Old Party and its flunkies are built on propaganda and the opposition being too gutless to really confront them. Wake up before it is too late!
 
 
+10 # photojack53 2011-03-12 01:24
"In Darwin veritas" I made and carried a sign in the "Save the American Dream" rally in San Diego that said, "May 1933 Hitler Abolished Unions" on one side to remind everyone of the past of union busting. On the other side it read, "Stop These EVIL, Bought-out, Plutocratic Republican Idiots, NOW!" It was a hit and many people wanted pictures of it!
Lest these myopic Repugnicans forget, here's a quote from their hero figure, Ronald Reagan: "Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost." He was a member of the Screen actor's Guild for most of his life. MY HOW THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS CHANGED 180 DEGREES FROM THEIR RECENT PAST! The ONLY reason is that they are bought-out by corporate interests and the Koch brothers and are NOT representing even their own constituent's best interests. VOTE THESE EVIL BUMS OUT OF OFFICE, RECALL OR IMPEACH THEM, NOW!
 
 
+46 # Regina1959 2011-03-11 13:01
According to union representative, Governor Scott Walker DID NOT campaign on closing the "collective bargaining" when on the campaign trail. If he did,certainly the unions would not have voted for him. We all stand behind the unions on this issue.
 
 
+23 # James Onon 2011-03-11 13:39
Fine, but wake up! This is just the "tip of the iceberg". Do you think Walker's(etc.) lies.fabricated statistics, payed for "positive commments", financially backing by the "Big Money Goons" will stop there?
 
 
+2 # rf 2011-03-14 05:58
oh please! Are you saying that the voters of Wisconsin were so easily fooled by a Republican that they would vote for one even though they are unionized??? Welcome to present day US! When people are living in company houses, working 12 or 14 hour shifts, eating oat meal bought from a company store, and going further and further in debt...then things will change...oh! Wait! What is my credit card bill? To what major bailed out bank? One way to stop this nonsense is for everyone to take a holiday from paying the credit card companies!
 
 
+25 # dkonstruction 2011-03-11 13:30
of oourse the best the NYT can do is to tell union workers to show up at the polls next time. problem is the same kind of budget cuts that Walker proposed have been proposed by such so-called progressive govenors as New York's Andrew Cuomo not to mention the cuts now proposed by Obama and the tax breaks for the uber rich he signed on to. The people in Wisconsin were inspired by the people in Egypt and they didn't bring about regime change by going to the polls.
 
 
+2 # rf 2011-03-14 06:01
And vote for who? The Democrats are just as guilty of being corporate goons. Time to go third party! No more voteing for these Republican and Democratic schmucks for me!
 
 
+18 # For the People... 2011-03-11 14:29
Thank Heaven for people like "in deo veritas"... your beliefs and what you said are MORE CORRECT than, unfortunately, most will give you credit for. These disgusting greedy GOP control freaks are breaking the very heart of this magnificent country. We must do all we can to save our Middle Class. STRIKE/PETITION /DO WHAT WE MUST, but FIGHT. And God bless us all.
 
 
+21 # JohnnyK 2011-03-11 14:42
As has been said before. it's time for a general strike to shut the state down. Workers have to unite.
 
 
+22 # ross falzone 2011-03-11 14:45
the republican agenda has been exposed for what it is. An effort to give corporations more power and take away as much power as they can from the people. The republican Governors claim that with out collective bargaining their jobs would be easier. Of course they would. It is also easier for city's to change zoning laws if neighborhood associations are band. Easier to pollute if people of community associations are band from collectively bargain/fight for their own protection. Community associations are unions. The Kaunas Clubs, Auto Mobile Clubs, your golf club, any organization you belong to is a union of like minded people baning together to advocate for their cause. That is the American way. If that right is infringed upon any of us, it is an affront to all of us.Taking rights away from anything with public attached to it, Like public employees, should scare the hell out of you.
 
 
+14 # Buckles 2011-03-11 15:24
To those who voted for this regime, you too will be a looser. The guy you put in the govenors chair lied to get where he is, never campaigned his intent to destroy the workers and poor and elderly.
 
 
+19 # joan kupferberg 2011-03-11 15:33
Hang strong. We retired teachers are with you. All of you are heroes and heroines to all of us!
 
 
+18 # DPM 2011-03-11 16:30
It is time to "shake the ground" in mass rallies. I'll be in two next week. Talk with everyone you know. Here in Michigan the power grab is so fantastic it is hard to believe. I spoke with two Republican business owners, yesterday, and they were simply flabergasted, disgusted and angry. Anyone that cannot see the danger ahead is unable to think for themselves. Of course, the national media, when they even give coverage to what is happening, make it ALL about public unions and most slant the broadcast to the conservative view. After-all, they have corporate sponsors to stroke. There is absolutely no investigative reporting going on. So, we have to make all of the noise ourselves, until the "thunder cannot be ignored. Just as the people of Egypt did.
 
 
+8 # Leonard R. Jaffee 2011-03-11 17:57
The NYT piece says:

"Republicans...moved the bargaining rights from a...budget bill to a separate bill...they could pass [because]...not a fiscal issue.

"And, in doing so, they...exposed the...truth...[ that] stripping the unions of their rights was never about the budget...."

FALSE.

I do not mean that neocon Republicans don’t want to bust unions: they do. I mean only that the NYT's point is factually false & a non-sequitur.

The matter is whether a bill bears SPENDING measures.

The bargaining rights are NOT (directly) SPENDING matters. But they ARE BUDGET matters: If the unions can’t bargain to up pay/fringes, government can avoid costs.

Still, the Republican senators' evil move suffers a legal trouble.

The senate can vote absent quorum if the vote concerns only non-spending measures.

But if the senate votes to split a bill's non-spending measures from its spending measures, isn't the senate voting on treatment of spending measures (vis-a-vis non-spending measures that were tied to the spending measures)?

Democrats ought challenge the separation-vote.

If the challenge prevails, the separation fails retroactively; and the non-spending measure vote must fail retroactively too, since it would have been a vote on a measure on which no vote could occur validly.
 
 
+14 # Susan LeDonne 2011-03-11 18:31
Hang in there, I'm retired from Verizon NY, CWA member. Unions fought for everything we have, good salaries, health care etc. How dare this governor make up his own rules. Soon he'll do away with child labor laws. I thought we lived in America!
 
 
+4 # Regina 2011-03-13 13:14
Unfortunately, he isn't making up his own rules. He's a puppet, and his strings are being pulled by corporate masters telling him to get rid of public employee labor rights the way they got rid of private employee labor rights -- actually, they got rid of their employees themselves by off-shoring their business operations. And he's not doing a solo -- there are other puppet-governor s in other states angling for the same catastrophe.
 
 
+13 # Kayjay 2011-03-11 18:52
Enlighten....en lighten....enli ghten everyone you know, and those feeling helpless on the sidelines. This was never about balancing budgets or creating new Mcjobs. Obviously the Wisc. GOP is marching to Kochian orders. But this is politics in 2011, the GOP has nothing to offer the lower 98 percent of Americans. So they "cook the books", offer up a big heaping helping of fear and get their way. It's been overstated, but a RECALL is in order, undo the damage and be involved and attentive to GOP games.
 
 
+6 # photojack53 2011-03-12 01:17
Lest these myopic Repugnicans forget, here's a quote from their hero figure, Ronald Reagan: "Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost." He was a member of the Screen actor's Guild for most of his life. MY HOW THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS CHANGED 180 DEGREES FROM THEIR RECENT PAST! The ONLY reason is that they are bought-out by corporate interests and the Koch brothers and are NOT representing even their own constituent's best interests. VOTE THESE EVIL BUMS OUT OF OFFICE, RECALL OR IMPEACH THEM, NOW!
 
 
+5 # genierae 2011-03-12 12:01
These corporate Republican elites are determined to turn this country into a white plutocracy and they will stop at nothing to do this. Their white majority is fading away and if they don't act now, they will only be one group in the midst of many. This terrifies them, especially after centuries of genocide and slavery. Once they are no longer at the top, they fear a backlash. (And they richly deserve one.) And so they can't allow that to happen. The Republicans in Michigan have just passed a bill to allow the corporate takeover of any municipality in an emergency. They can dissolve the local government, fire the mayor, and put a corporation in charge. It doesn't take much imagination to see what comes next: the sell-off of the public utilities, and the public lands. Workers must organize massively, across this country, if we are to take our country back. It will be a long fight, and there may be many lives lost. But I guarantee you, the alternative would be much, much worse.
 
 
+4 # tm7devils 2011-03-13 11:44
It has ever been thus...put a repuglican in office and lose your government, your freedom and your livelihood.
How far do we have to regress before the conservative ideologues in this country wake up and understand what's going on and what's in their best interest?
Talk about cutting your own throat...and everyone else's in the process!!!
 

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