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Rich writes: "Even some Republicans who once flayed Bill Clinton over Monica were magnanimous to Petraeus, seeing no reason why his disloyalty to his wife should sully his reputation as a loyal patriot."

Then-Maj. Gen. David Petraeus greets old friends before handing over command of the 101st Airborne Division. (photo: AP)
Then-Maj. Gen. David Petraeus greets old friends before handing over command of the 101st Airborne Division. (photo: AP)

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+12 # WestWinds 2012-12-10 13:22
I don't think Clinton's witch hunt over Lewinski (or Whitewater) was anything but an open (and very expensive) attack by people on the Right to discredit Democrats (I won't call Democrats the people on the Left because Democrats these days aren't; it's the Green Party that is on the Left.) I don't have much sympathy for the Clinton's politically and see them and Petraeus as being cut from the same cloth. I was a life long Democrat but between the Clinton sell-out of the TV media to the Right to get his law license back, it's only fitting that the Democrats have been taking a pounding as a result of their own evil doings. WE are the ones who need to smarten up and stop believing what comes off that TV; (I got rid of my TV years ago.) But I have very recently read blogs from people whom I thought had better sense and they are supporting Obama as if HE never did/is doing anything to screw people over in his push to create a New World Order. Average people just don't want to see their leaders as anything but the good guys and are willing to overlook and forgive the most heinous behavior. If people had any sense, they would abandon both the Republicans and the Democrats as corporatists who want nothing else but to enslave them. Don't believe me? Where is habeas corpus? Why has posse comitatus never been rescinded from the Bush years? People are stupid in their blind loyalty to the wrong things and too afraid to step outside of the box no matter for how much the better.
+2 # Paul Larudee 2012-12-10 14:32
Petraeus' chief problem was his infidelity to Israel, not his wife. After he argued in our Israeli-occupie d Congress that Israel is a strategic burden to the US, his demise was only a matter of setting up another excuse.
0 # 2012-12-11 01:50
he had to go with the Kelly/Broadwell Islam Lobbyists after a broad well is like a Deep throat to cover his real main task rid the GWB enemy with evidence of Gadhafi having Sadman's WBD's and the lies that killed millions, The got the Libyan security guy other side of the leak a month after the Ambassador who wouldn'tn shutup.
+18 # reiverpacific 2012-12-10 14:40
Let's be honest: in this faux-moralistic nation, those in power are naively expected to be like Caesar's wife, "above suspicion" but there is a high tolerance for many caught with their knickers down if their ideology is a'tune with enough people.
I mean, the oldest profession in the world is alive, flourishing AND high-priced inside the beltway, much-funded by your tax dollars as proffered by the omnipresent lobbyists.
I wonder how many of us could resist such pressures if we were under constant assault for favors bestowed, away from our families if we had 'em, and buddies, alone in an environment of swirling, hard to identify, confusing and often self-contradict ory mores?
Just speculatin' of course as I've never been inside the mythical but well-defined Beltway but I've often thought that something happens to many originally well-meaning folks when they are encircled in that rarified atmosphere of "Fair is foul and foul is fair, hover in the Fog and filthy Air"!
I'm about as pure as the driven slush with a pretty spotty past but I'm only accountable now to myself and my wife, hardly in a position of public trust or national security.
I admit to gettin' a bit of a guffaw at that super-moralist- family man, Larry Craig (ID) being nicked playing footsie in an airport bog with an FBI agent.
Ironically, we are faced with the Bradley Manning situation, Julian Assange and Leonard Peltier to name but a few, who were trying to do the RIGHT thing.
Go figure.
-22 # Robt Eagle 2012-12-10 14:56
Wow, super heros that are human? Patreaus crewed the pooch, so to speak, haha. He did however, have a decent career although it would seem he rose through the ranks very quickly and self promoted a fair amount. In Iraq he parlayed the great work of many underlings into his great work on insurgency. That is ok, it is a good thing that the surge and other things worked. It is a shame that Obama pulled everyone out of Iraq because the State Department couldn't come to a SOFA that was acceptable to the Iraqi's, but most people on this site haven't an clue about what really went on. The media made the pull out from Iraq seem like a good thing. It is one that will haunt us, and Obama's last appointees to Iraq with the State Department were abysmal failures, but as I said you have no clue about that. OK, so Iran can now use Iraqi air space unimpeded to fly weapons to Syria, or to where ever and influence insurgencies. That came about because Obama's State appointees were failures in diplomacy. AlQuaeda has already set up training camps in the western part of Iraq, becuase Obama's State Dept were incompetent, but hey, its ok, you don't know anything about that. So when we get attacked again on US soil, it will be Obama's failed policies, but hey, who would know about that? Benghazi was no big deal, right? The main stream media pays no attention to it...WE LOST FOUR BRAVE AMERICANS, but Obama doesn't care, so why should you? Hillary Clinton was in charge of STATE DEPT!!!
+14 # sibbaldflats 2012-12-10 17:21
Robt Eagle: The surge worked very well in getting America out of a war it had lost, thanks to the Bushites who launched it so needlessly and who pursued it so ineptly. By planning for a Shiite regime, the Bush gang also guaranteed one friendly with Iran. It couldn't have happened any other way. And you'd really have to hate America to want your troops there forever. They've never had any business there, or have you not realized the whole invasion was based on a Bush scam. There's nothing secret about that. And maybe Iraqi troops should come to America enmasse, bomb your country, douse it with white phosphorous and kick in the doors of those they suspect resent such liberation. RB would call such Iraqis war criminals and anyone who resisted them freedom fighters.
Your exclamation that your country lost four brave Americans on Obama's watch only lays in stark contrast the 5,000 U.S. troops killed in Iraq and the many, many more who've committed suicide because of what they saw there, thanks to Bush. This, of course, pales to the Iraqi body count, also thanks to Bush. Repeat after me, Robt Eagle, the leaders you admire are a pack of war criminals who deserve the severist justice but will see none of it, because so many people think like you do.
+6 # DPM 2012-12-10 18:56
President Bush signed a treaty with Iraq that called for our "pull out", precisely when it happened. President Obama tried to extend our stay and the Iraqis would have none of it.
-2 # 2012-12-11 01:54
USA is on Iraq side then Iran then Iraq now Iran the enemy again. They prefer Marcon and Shar of Iran deal covers not these loose cannon elected dudes.
+3 # 2012-12-11 01:52
Why is everyone believing the sex story that's the Cover for what he really did. USA has sacked 5 generals I know of in coverups since GWB WMD War Crimes.
+4 # Anarchist 23 2012-12-10 15:07
Another white male being unfaithful to his wife. I'm shocked, shocked.
-14 # MidwestTom 2012-12-10 15:12
From the pictures that I have seen I think that Paula would be hard for any man to turn down, but Monica wouldn't get a second look from most guys.
+7 # Billy Bob 2012-12-10 19:04
The fact that you consider one of the two bimbos "hard to turn down" kind of removes any moral authority you have to cast stones about Lewinsky. The issue is about marriage. It's not about how "hot" the potential bimbo is or isn't, in your own opinion.
+2 # margpark 2012-12-10 15:15
No individual human being is all good or all bad. Jack Kennedy, Bill Clinton and David Petraeus were all bright and capable men with a fatal weakness.
+8 # DPM 2012-12-10 19:00
This story isn't, so much, about the "failings" of the people in the story, as it is about the gushing, slathering way the press and public drool over them. For a supposedly Christian nation, we sure do like our "demigods.
+10 # angelfish 2012-12-10 16:18
It's ALL Bull-Puckey. Both Parties leap on the Scandal Band-Wagon depending on whose Ox is being gored. The ReTHUGlicans of today are FAR worse, in my opinion, because they are such hypocrites. They REFUSE to act like human beings so they deny it in others, or excuse it if it suits their agenda. They have NO morals or ethics. Beating the drum over Petreaus's behavior and "demanding a thorough investigation" into the Benghazi incident are small indicators of their inanity. WHERE was all their outrage over Three Thousand PLUS (3000+) dead on American soil eleven years ago? Oh, that's right, THEIR "shrub" was in charge at the time, Never mind.
+5 # USA2012??? 2012-12-10 16:40
Media manipulation plain and simple: if the media launched an all out negative assault on the character of David Preteaus the public would respond in like fashion. Like making Ollie North a national hero after undermining Reagan on the Iran-Contra affair which anyone else would have been considered treason.

Simply put the majority of the American public follows the intended perspective the media promotes. This my friend is the result of decades of carefully managed conditioning.
+5 # MidwestTom 2012-12-10 17:05
If our intelligence community didm't know about this six months ago, we need to fire the whole lot. Paul Larudee may have hit the nail on the head, as to why this came out, and why it was such a BIG story.
+3 # cordleycoit 2012-12-10 17:28
He's just another failed general pushed to the top by his own press releases and aided by big media. The so-called free press creates these turkeys so we can justify attempting to steal the oil from Iraq, the rare earth from Afghanistan. the drugs from Mexico.Guys like hm demean the grunts dying of incompetent leadership on strange ground. Its a wonder the Repubs didn't run him instead of the other loser, Romney.
-10 # skylinefirepest 2012-12-10 17:38
It's really rather simple...The General has put his life in Harm's Way for a good portion of his aldulthood and should absolutely be looked upon as a patriot and hero. Clinton's only risk was from Billary!! Scary as that might seem given what I've heard about her!!
+8 # Billy Bob 2012-12-10 18:43
"Even some Republicans who once flayed Bill Clinton over Monica were magnanimous to Petraeus, seeing no reason why his disloyalty to his wife should sully his reputation as a loyal patriot"

The same applied to many of the Republicans who were attacking President Clinton from Congress at the time, including Gingrich.
+6 # Texan 4 Peace 2012-12-11 10:11
I like Frank Rich generally, but Petreaus is certainly not "innocent of hypocrisy." He was one of the main people pushing the military's requirement of "spiritual fitness", i.e. embrace of evangelical Christianity. Read more here:

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