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Intro: "The Republicans have thrown down the gauntlet over the possibility that Susan Rice will replace Hillary Clinton. But the winner is already clear."

Susan Rice, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. (photo: AP)
Susan Rice, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. (photo: AP)

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+131 # guyachs 2012-11-25 09:41
I watched Linsey Graham talk about this issue this morning and as he talked, his facial features became contorted with something I can only label as hate. He should not be in any rational discussion about this issue.
McCain hates Obama. He has never gotten over his defeat and will do anything he can to hurt Obama.
+75 # Barbara K 2012-11-25 11:07
guyachs: I know what you mean, Lindsey Graham and McCain both have the most hateful expressions. They speak with pure hate. McCain is the one who brought us Sarah Palin and that should tell us what little credibility and intelligence he has. It is disgusting how they are tearing down a great UN Secretary for their own gain, or so they think. I think that their stunt is bringing them down and showing them how little character THEY have. Hope they are out of congress soon so we can OUR country can stop the hate and head to recovery. To pick on a woman seems easy for these Greedy Old Pigs.
+49 # doneasley 2012-11-25 13:09
Quoting Barbara K:
... Hope they are out of congress soon... To pick on a woman seems easy for these Greedy Old Pigs.

Barb, the McCain/Graham hatred is so pronounced you can cut thru it with a knife. These men should definitely not be in Congress. They can't be gone soon enough. When it comes to knowledge and job qualifications, Sarah Palin - selected by McCain to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency if he had won - is no match for Susan Rice. Now that's the Senate, where Susan Rice will go for confirmation if nominated. Even though the GOP is in the minority in the Senate, the filibuster gives them the power to control the agenda. I just wish Senator Reid would make them take the floor and speak to carry out their filibuster. That would put faces on the people who are preventing legislation from happening.

My real concern is with the House, where a simple majority - and they are "simple" - can pass inflammatory legislation and deny the President's agenda. As a result of the 2010 Census, districts have been redrawn in GOP-controlled states such that they'll be guaranteed to hold those districts. A survey shows that Dems would have gained control of the House if the 2008 districts had been retained. President Obama and the Dems have an uphill climb in 2014 and beyond.

It certainly is a "STATE OF WAR", and will remain so as long as we have a Tea Party House.
+15 # Smiley 2012-11-25 15:08
As long as the corporate puppet masters keep a "State of War" going between bigoted racist Republicans and Obama can do no wrong Democrats, they can be assured that we will be to busy and emotionally involved to look and see what's going on behind the scenes or do anything about it.
+6 # Barbara K 2012-11-26 21:46
doneasley: I know what you mean, only I was thinking it would take a chainsaw to cut thru their hatred, that describes pretty much the entire Republicant party.
For these 2 punks to try to discredit a woman who has served her country honorably for decades is a terrible injustice. Are these 2 freaks that insecure?
+33 # Regina 2012-11-25 15:25
Susan Rice is the surrogate for Obama in their hate campaign, because he won in the electoral campaign -- again! -- and they're throwing tantrums over it. Conveniently, she's a double target for these hatemongers -- not only Black, but female, twice the target value for the "Tea" contingent.
+44 # X Dane 2012-11-25 15:08

Yes it is indeed interesting to hear Lindsey Graham and McCain call her unqualified, and not very intelligent.
That is rich PARTICULARLY coming from McCain.

He graduated from the Naval Academy 5th FROM THE BOTTOM!!. And ONLY because his dad was an Admiral and it would have been too embarrassing, if he had NOT graduated.

As a Pilot, he was too cocky and crashed two expensive jets on landing, because of incompetence. And when he was shot down over Vietnam, it was because he had not been following orders.

I have never understood why he is deferred to as competent to express his opinion on military--and foreign affairs.......H e was sitting in a plane at 3000 feet and dropping bombs.

That does NOT make you a military or foreign affairs expert, so he should be quiet and go away.
+5 # zornorff 2012-11-27 14:29
Don't forget...this mental giant brought us Sarah Palin,
+8 # fdawei 2012-11-26 00:11
Correct. These two dogs are despicable and a disgrace to the US electoral system. As for McCain....his mind has remained tortured and twisted since his days as a POW in Vietnam, if that is the real cause.
-17 # RLF 2012-11-26 07:58
Blah,Blah Blah...I want to hear more about this woman and if she is going to be another do nothing like Erik Holder and less BS. This is all distraction. I haven't heard a peep out of this woman at the UN...probably running interference for multinational business.
+70 # fredboy 2012-11-25 09:59
Think aikido: If they want 9/11 answers, we want answers regarding the REAL 9/11 attack--the one that killed 3,000 Americans. Speak up, fellow Americans. Don't allow it to remain under the rug for more than 11 years!
+34 # futhark 2012-11-25 10:42
The connections between the real 9/11 perpetrators and the perpetrators of the financial collapse of 2007-2008 as explained in Charles Ferguson's excellent documentary "Inside Job" are becoming increasingly clear. The puzzle is being solved, in spite of the efforts of the government and media to denigrate and marginalize those who persist in discovering the truth and thus getting to the root of this evil.

Here's a 39-minute YouTube program that is the best video I've seen yet showing who did 9/11 and why it was done.
+10 # brux 2012-11-25 12:26
that link is interesting
+19 # Misterioso 2012-11-25 12:50
The root causes of 9/11 were America's immoral and self-defeating Middle East policy (especially our support for Israel - an exclusionary, expansionary, belligerent/ill egal/brutal occupier state) as well as its military assaults against Muslim countries and the killing of hundreds of thousands and its support for compliant pro- U.S. tyrannical governments

To wit:
In its analysis of terrorism, the Pentagon's Defense Science Board of the U.S. Defense Department concluded that "Muslims do not hate our freedom,...they hate our policies. The overwhelming majority [object] to what they see as one-sided support in favour of Israel and against Palestinian rights, and the long-standing, even increasing, support for...tyrannies , most notably Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Pakistan and the Gulf states."
+6 # larrypayne 2012-11-25 13:18
I agree that Muslims hate our policies rather than our freedoms. But that does not mean that Muslims actually attacked us on 9/11. Major General Albert Stubbledine, former head of all military intelligence explains why:
+8 # Celeste 2012-11-25 17:27
Thank you. I am so tired of the fake storyline built upon the false original AND Official Narrative. And although I haven't yet read all the comments, where is the OUTRAGE that this Rice is a clone of the prior Rice in that both are educated women ready to lead the charge towards aggression; and it's all done for the naked pursuits of Empire. It's disgusting that Susan Rice pushed for a violent response to Libya and also towards Iran. The woman who's willing to be more deadly than a trained soldier would do Lady Macbeth proud.

This is the moral bottom of so-called civilization. It has right-wing lunatics trying to tell me that women like Susan Rice represent feminism, as if the just call to gender equality means women should prove just as arrogant in the use of deadly force as men trained to do so under a crippled conception of masculinity that's lasted for centuries.

Whether Rice gets in or otherwise is just window dressing. The real issue is working towards the coalition of Just Forces, those prepared to counter the sickening habit of state violence with the Rule of Law.

Anyone with the guts to pay honest attention to foreign policy, whether led by the R "team" or the D "team" can find the interest in creating cause to do battle the mutually reinforced theme.
+53 # goodsensecynic 2012-11-25 10:53
I grant that the events of September 11, 2001 were hideous, and that the date should "live in infamy." To me, however, the more important debate about "9/11" is not the one about which version - the "official" or the "conspiratorial " one - should prevail.

To me, the "real" 9/11 happened 28 years earlier and almost 40 years ago. It happened when American officials (CIA and otherwise) colluded with American corporations (not least Pepsico) and a proto-fascist domestic military to overthrow the democratically elected president of Chile, torture and murder at least 20,000 Chileans, and drive that country into a dictatorial darkness under Augusto Pinochet (ably assisted by "economists" at the University of Chicago) that remained in place for 17 years.

Evil was perpetrated against the United States of America in 2001, to be sure (and I regret that the US hasn't learned the proper lessons from the experience even yet); but worse has befallen others.

Thinking deeply about what the United States has done abroad can only help it face the crimes it has committed, and thus begin to heal at home. Only when and if that happens, will the US be able legitimately to assume a position of moral leadership in the world.
+19 # larrypayne 2012-11-25 12:27
Sorry, I don't agree that the Chilean coup was the "real 9/11." The deaths of 20,000 Chileans does not start to compare with the hundreds of thousands of deaths enabled by the wars waged using 9/11 as an excuse. The fake war on terror has no end unless the truth about 9/11 is known to the world.

I think what you are doing is trying to change the subject.
+10 # Celeste 2012-11-25 17:30
Maybe it's wise to note the parallels in that State sponsored violence in its wish to control the 99% is at the core of both events, although appearances were put in place to suggest another storyline entirely.

"War abroad entails tyranny at home." (Hannah Arendt) That's a historically proven recipe.
+18 # Davethinks 2012-11-25 12:55
There were more than a few of us who first thought the 9/11 WTC disaster was a revenge move by Allende supporters. It was not, as we know now, but was instead the desired by PNAC opportunity to make war on a nation that provided a haven for bin Laden and more war on a nation that did not do that.. The unpatriotic Patriot Act protected the war mongers and harmed American rights for decent citizens.
-10 # Misterioso 2012-11-25 12:02
Seek and ye shall find:

Re: Building 7.

Re: The Twin Towers.
+25 # hwatt 2012-11-25 10:52
Sadly enough, the very reason that you repeatedly cite as a reason Ms Rice will get the position:
"1. Because every piece of available evidence suggests Obama wants her in the job."
Is precisely why they will fight tooth and nail until they defeat the nomination.

The more Obama wants something, the more the GOP wants it not to happen.
They draw battle lines they are drawing are Norquist-like in their absolute intransigence and this is turning into one of those brinkmanship moments.
The GOP hates the President- what he wants, they are automatically against.
Then, there are certain aspects to her candidacy, unspoken and vociferously denied, that make her approval, unlikely.
+30 # doneasley 2012-11-25 12:16
Quoting hwatt:
... The GOP hates the President- what he wants, they are automatically against.
Then, there are certain aspects to her candidacy, unspoken and vociferously denied, that make her approval, unlikely.

I agree, hwatt, that GOP hatred for Barack Obama has caused total intransigence - to the point of stupidity - on the part of the GOP to the extent that it has hampered any attempts by the President to rescue the American economy. It's an inside struggle that - no matter what's good for America - ignores the wishes of the American electorate, even though the President was easily elected to a 2nd term. It's almost as if the GOP were placing IED's in position to disrupt any forward economic progress.

And regarding the "certain aspects" to Susan Rice's candidacy, I'll tell you why they shouldn't remain "unspoken". Susan Rice, in case you hadn't noticed, is an AFRICAN-AMERICA N FEMALE! Certainly the GOP, in the persons of John McCain and Lindsey Graham, have gone out of their way, not only to oppose Ms. Rice, but to disparage her qualifications and her reputation. Familiar ground coming from a group of dunces who are immediately inflamed by the presence of women and minorities in responsible positions. Just look at what they've said and done to the President and Attorney General Eric Holder. Case closed.

I certainly hope the President DOES NOT back down from the Susan Rice nomination!
+5 # Celeste 2012-11-25 17:36
It's Hollywood script-writing all the way. Heck, if the template (Attractive, personable, young, articulate, Black female) worked for Bush in extending a campaign of endlessly expanding, engineered foreign wars, why change the program?

With your easy acceptance of "The Repugs made it impossible for Obama to ----- " (fill in the blank), you're obviously the target "viewer" of these made for television foreign and domestic policy story-lines.
+7 # Douglas Jack 2012-11-25 21:21
Dubya as well brought in Condoleezza Rice as Secretary of State, African-America n-Female. The Finance, Media, Military, Industrial Complex is willing to use any figure head, any colour, any-sex in order to perpetuate the false-profits of the arms, munitions, security-force & war economy. Both the left & right equally fall into one-sided 'hates' vilifying & eventually carpet-bombing occupying any nation which does not submit to our corporate control. Susan Rice has shown that; she's their girl. The rest of us need to go much deeper to get to the starting point in understanding these happenings.
+43 # wwway 2012-11-25 10:58
Graham and McCain have hate written all over their faces. There's one thing I've noticed about the religious right and Republicans in general and that is they impress me as being willing to throw themselves into the firey pits of hell over race.
+16 # Old Man 2012-11-25 15:59
Quoting wwway:
Graham and McCain have hate written all over their faces. There's one thing I've noticed about the religious right and Republicans in general and that is they impress me as being willing to throw themselves into the firey pits of hell over race.

Graham has sown his lips to the Buttocks of McCain over the last few years and I hope these two racist's do burn in hell. McCain sure hasn't done a damn thing for his country or for the state of Arizona.He was a lousy military man and a very inept senator.
+4 # X Dane 2012-11-26 20:06
Old Man.
I think that is the first time I have seen anybody say, that McCain was a lousy military man!! most defer to him very respectfully. They know that he was a prisoner for years in North Vietnam.

That must have been horrible, but from what I have read some time ago... He was in an area, where he was ordered NOT to be. He didn't follow orders too well.

It also disgusts me, that although his wife tried to move heaven and earth to free him,.... sadly to no avail... He ran around with anything in skirts, when he finally was released.

After going on some trips with congress people he decided to run for congress.
He knew that requires money, so when he met young, attractive and ....very rich Cindy, he pursued her vigorously.

...although he had not yet bothered to divorce his first wife....a real prince.
He was riding high on his prisoner of war fame. ....He still is. He is a publicity hound. I believe NOBODY has been on TV as much as he has
+31 # reiverpacific 2012-11-25 11:06
I must admit that I don't know too much about Ms Rice but this article gives a bit of welcome background on her.
But didn't she have a NAMESAKE who was part of a hubristic and nepotistic gang, masquerading as an administration that sent the US into two wars on a lie who was arrogant AND incompetent, including ignoring warnings from her own security apparatus and allies, including Israel, that attacks on American targets by Al-Queda were imminent prior to 9/11?
Now the latter-day spawn of the same crowd are howling for the blood of somebody much more qualified and alert, using Benghazi as a last-gasp, mean-spirited gesture of a bunch of downward-headed sore reactionary losers!
+34 # dick 2012-11-25 11:07
FORCE the GOPers to make very public racist, sexist idiots of themselves, split. Timing is important though. Tax cuts #1 battle for now. Hagel would be good for defense. Do NOT vacate a Senate seat.
Rice not very bright? This from John McCain? Make him EAT it.
+1 # X Dane 2012-11-26 20:09
I think Hagel would be great too.
-21 # Robt Eagle 2012-11-25 11:31
Why did Rice not investigate and analyse the talking points she was given BEFORE going on 5 Sunday TV shows to deliver an error filled message? Why? Why? Why?
+17 # kelly 2012-11-25 13:47
They were given to her by the Intelligence Department. CIA, Homeland Security, you don't think she had any reason to believe that she should believe they were right? And if there was something on the talking points not there are you suggesting she say it anyway on National television?
I think I remember some of your posts on Bradley Manning about posting things that were labelled "Top Secret". If Ms. Rice had said something that was redacted, would she not be doing the same? Of course, not liking her because you don't like Obama might skew your Point of View a little.
+29 # Pancho 2012-11-25 11:47
It's ironic that McCain, the man who picked Sarah Palin as his VP selection, complains that Rice is not too "bright."

Her I.Q. is probably 50 points higher than Sarah's. If they had a similar scale for integrity, I'm sure she'd do equally well.
-33 # Smiley 2012-11-25 12:21
The Republican fighting Democrat dog and pony show. But I would like an explanation of why Rice was lying about Benghazi, or did she really not know? There were plenty of eye witness accounts on the internet at the time...before she made those statements.
+13 # AMLLLLL 2012-11-25 13:42
Smiley, I was upset about this too, but my impression now is that whoever gave her the talking points said that was all she could say, covering for those left on the ground in Libya. Note the disclaimers:

RICE: 'Well, Jake, first of all, it's important to know that there's an FBI investigation that has begun and will take some time to be completed. That will tell us with certainty what transpired.
But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous -- not a premeditated -- response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.
We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to -- or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in -- in the wake of the revolution in Libya are -- are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.
We'll wait to see exactly what the investigation finally confirms, but that's the best information we have at present.' cont.
+1 # Smiley 2012-11-25 15:35
Thank you for responding actually AMLLLLL,

I still believe that democracy cannot function when people are fed misinformation. If officials don't want to answer because of security reasons, they should say so. I believe I'm getting lots of thumbs down from people so suckered into the divide and conquer republican against democrat "State of war" that they can't be bothered to find out what's really going on. I guess many people just don't want to know.
+5 # Celeste 2012-11-25 17:45
In an era of this much corruption, anyone, male or female, red, black, white or brown who gets close to the inner circles of power has to be VERY comfortable with power's abuse (along with its abusers), own a highly flexible conscience (sociopaths, preferred), and also demonstrate a remarkable capacity to use a lot of words in saying nothing substantial. From the school of life, they have earned enough credits to warrant a Ph.d. in the capacity to deliver copious quantities of pure, unending bullshit.
0 # Douglas Jack 2012-11-25 16:24
Precisely, those extremist Al Qaeda which USA, Canada, NATO armed for decades to destabilize Libya's Green Movement finally got traction through Rice's well planned Facebook campaign of 'hates'. Hate knows no boundaries. In the same way as US arming of the Taliban, Osama-Bin-Laden / Al Qaeda eventually produced Blow-back with Russia defeated, we became the 911 target of the hates we produced, financed & armed. Benghazi is only the opening of this realignment for the forces of hell which we unleashed in a destabilized Libya as well as 79 other countries worldwide. The only rule 'hate' follows is, 'What goes-around-com es-around'. Its tragic when blacks such as Barack Obama, Susan Rice, Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell buy into the colonial imperial lie & join in creating / continuing the Finance-Militar y-Industrial-Co mplex murder. The only way around 'hates' is to transparently engage the 'other-side' in equal-time, recorded & published debate.
+2 # Celeste 2012-11-26 11:17
I certainly agree with your point about Minorities identifying with the "colonial, imperial lie and joining in creating/contin uing the Finance-Militar y-Industrial-co mplex," however, don't be so sure that 911 wasn't a false flag event. The Neocons were ready for their Project For a New American Century and all those oil men (and related moguls) close to the Washington, DC throne of power were none too interested in Saddam trading the Black Gold OFF the U.S. dollar. In other words, a trigger was needed to initiate the war that was already planned. THAT is why there was such a purposeful conflation between Saddam Hussein and the would-be perpetrators of 911; nor was there any will or muscle to go after Bin Laden until Obama pulled him out of the hat (and Hollywood script writers obliged) to boost waning poll numbers.

If I sound cynical, I have apt cause to be as is true of anyone paying attention and able to pull back the curtain that the duopoly "Oz" has used to bamboozle the public about the degree to which its interests (economic, social, moral and ecological) have been sold out to the highest corporate bidder. In the USA, today Democracy = bah, humbug!
-4 # Douglas Jack 2012-11-26 15:00
Celeste, There is nothing cynical about your honest stating of the facts, but it is essential to target in on the 'fractals' ('patterns') needed for our reorganization. We have the power, but need to organize on human terms. Everything we've been institutionally taught to degrade & neglect should be of the highest priority to re-examine.
+15 # AMLLLLL 2012-11-25 13:42

Transcript is the best way to hear the WHOLE answer, not cherry-pick.

Should Chris Stevens have been called back to Tripoli for 9/11? In my opinion, yes. Did Rice have ANYTHING to do with any of this? NO.

As far back as I can remember, if anyone begins to succeed in the peace process in the Middle East, they are eliminated.
-12 # Archie1954 2012-11-25 12:43
"Unprecedented UN sanctions"? you mean she is very good at threats?
-5 # Douglas Jack 2012-11-25 12:52
Susan Rice an example of the schizophrenia which infects both the government, USA, all NATO countries & populations. There's a neural disconnect between what one side of government is doing & another. Disconnect from mind & nature is based in 'hates' (George Orwell 1984), when we no longer identify with the diversity of what others around us are doing. Disengagement from the other as well disconnects collective mind. In antipathy, we can either engage deeper through 'debate' (French 'de' = 'undo' + 'bate' = 'the-fight') or disconnect. Social-media in this supposed 'information-ag e' is partially used for generation of hates because of the lack of 'dialectic' ('both-sides') presentation of facts. Rice's 'hates' of Muammar Gaddafi led to the death of over 100,000 people & a civil war which will unlikely end. Rice was unaware that Libya was Africa's largest development aid donor/investor with universal health-care, education, employment & housing with a system of local direct democracy given accolades by 3 Nobel-Peace laureates. One side of US/Canada/NATO' s Finance-Media-M ilitary-Industr ial-Complex is actively arming dissidents in 80 countries worldwide in order to destabilize governments, feed resource addiction as well as our arm's business. The only antidote is to actively engage our perceived enemies in Both-Sides equal-time recorded & published debate.
+7 # Celeste 2012-11-25 17:47
I am sorry to see your post get so many dislikes when it's the comment that holds the most insight on this thread. People want to believe that their team is the good guys rather than take a serious deep look into what passes for America's foreign policy.
+19 # motamanx 2012-11-25 13:21
If Ms Rice was passed over for the likes of John Kerry, Massachusetts would lose a voice in the Senate, and we'd have to contend with another odious, expensive election concerning the unqualified Scott Brown.
+26 # billeeboy 2012-11-25 13:37
It is very difficult to avoid concluding that the attacks on Susan Rice are racist. Why anyone pays any attention to McCain is beyond me. He is a not very bright man who has made a career out of being an incompetent fighter pilot who kept getting shot down in Vietnam. Surely if he ever had a prime he is now well past it. If the voters in Arizona are not bright enough to replace him, surely the press should be smart enough to ignore his nasty-poor-lose r-I'll-get-even -with-Obama-rac ist rantings!
+8 # margpark 2012-11-25 21:22
I don't think McCain should utter the word 'stupid' at any woman since he nominated a woman who became a national joke to be vice president. I don't know who was more stupid - John McCain or Sarah Palin.
-4 # Artemis 2012-11-26 05:31
Rice is simply too arrogant, a spokeswoman for the "we'll tell the rest of the world the way we want things to be done and iff they don't like it, we'll bully them, remove US funding and create sanctions". I don't want her at the UN either. It's a damn shame that a woman should not get the job - I felt the same way about Hillary Clinton - but as a human being Rice needs to develop into a more modest, empathetic and informed person.
+5 # Celeste 2012-11-26 11:22
The problem is, that unless the women considered for the job adapt their mores and behavioral standards (added to their public actions) to accord with the modus operandi of Empire, they don't stand a shot. By the time a "candidate" emerges in the public's view, a helluva of vetting has already gone on. It works precisely the same way in how Bush knew where to locate just the "right" legal minds to torture the language into an equivalent that made the greatest of all human depravities legal. (I am talking about the off-shore torture camps.)
-1 # danigo 2012-11-27 13:42
The only arguement being made here in favor of Susan Rice is that she is "hated" by the GOP. This is no arguement. Only passing reference is made to her "resumé". But in fact it is her resumé that is the problem. What is so great about succeeding in passing sanctions against Iran or about refusing to listen to Russia and China on Syria? In both these cases she made an international fool of herself. Is this what the US wants for Secretary of State?
+5 # kalpal 2012-11-28 05:40
Since you seem to feel you have a firm grasp about the contents of the correct resume for the next SoS perhaps you should share with us all your favorite candidates and their resumes. I think it would be fascinating.

McCain has demonstrated amply that he lacks any capacity to choose any candidate for any office and is not even in my opinion qualified to hold the one he occupies.
+3 # kelly 2012-11-28 08:18
Here are just a few things aside from the U.N. ambassadorship that might qualify her:
NSA staff for Clinton during 1st term
Ass't Sec'y of State for African Affairs during Clinton's second term, Phi Beta Kappa Rhodes Scholar for which she wrote the dissertation: "Commonwealth Initiative in Zimbabwe, 1979-1980: Implications for International Peacekeeping"
This is the resume , or only part of the much longer resume we are talking about when we are asking the Senate to confirm Ms. Rice. These yahoos from the Carolinas like Graham and the idiot like McCain who barely made it out of the Naval Academy should be proud to shine her academic boots and yet they have the gall to call her stupid!
+5 # kalpal 2012-11-28 05:36
I am amazed that anyone perceives that they guy who picked Ms. Palin to be a possible future president has any credibility on any matter whatsoever, let alone on who should be any government official at all. It boggles my mind.

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