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Intro: "The humiliations of the patdown policy, which Janet Napolitano wants to expand, are an Orwellian assault on American freedom."

A TSA officer signals an airline passenger forward at a security checkpoint. (photo: Elaine Thompson/AP)
A TSA officer signals an airline passenger forward at a security checkpoint. (photo: Elaine Thompson/AP)

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-25 # dondegeorge 2010-12-30 21:55
I have been a skeptic of some of the overwrought prudery I've seen on this subject, but I have to admit that the account given here is somewhat shocking. Nevertheless, I would just like to venture the comment that whether or not touching constitutes "molestation" depends heavily upon intent. Just as one would not accuse a doctor of molestation during a similarly intimate examination, neither should TSA professionals be so accused. I don't imagine that most of them enjoy having to do this at all; but I suppose we do have to worry about exceptions. Whether all this searching helps make us more secure is questionable: some cite the fact that none of this has discovered any explosives; but maybe that is because the knowledge of such searches has somewhat deterred terrorists. But then we're always fighting the last problem (the underwear bomber), which just makes the terrorists take another tack. To sum up, I am conflicted; but I think we have to try to keep some perspective before calling TSA staff "molesters."
 
 
-32 # bobi burke 2010-12-30 22:27
I have been at the airport a number of times since the patting down has been implemented and neither had that kind of pat down nor did I see such behavior as indicated in ms Abel's column...I believe that the people that are so embarresed by the so called fondling are just taking this issue and blowing everything out of proportion...th ere is always some people that have to object to anything new ... their 15 minutes of fame...get a grip...as to the thermos...did you ever think maybe acid could be in the thermos? a little can go a long way to disable someone. The alternate of being hi-jacked does not seem like an option that I would care to have.
 
 
+23 # angryspittle 2010-12-30 22:29
I suggest ingesting about 5 burritos and a head of red cabbage about an hour before entering security.
 
 
-23 # rock 2010-12-30 22:34
These procedures are certainly regrettable, but would you rather be on a flight where they weren't doing anything?
 
 
+11 # Daniel Fletcher 2010-12-31 23:19
Quoting rock:
These procedures are certainly regrettable, but would you rather be on a flight where they weren't doing anything?

Yes, as a matter of fact I would. Anywhere, anytime, to any destination.
 
 
-13 # rock 2011-01-01 00:59
I hope you will be safe.
 
 
+5 # Daniel Fletcher 2011-01-01 15:44
Quoting rock:
I hope you will be safe.

I can assure that with security procedures used prior to full body scans and groping I'd be safer than walking the dog. Further, since it is bombs in baggage that are the biggest risk, scanning them and not me would make flying safer than riding my stationary bicycle. I bet that a statistical study of safety with regard to walking my dog and riding my stationary bicycle compared to flying as I described would prove my point precisely.
 
 
+32 # constance kosuda 2010-12-30 22:38
why is Obama permitting this - for himself, his wife, his daughters, his mother, or are they all exempt - oh, that's it -

this does NOT "make us safe" and by the way, it is clear we are not all turned on by the same things Napolitano likes.

get real - this is the deliberate dumbing down of our human instinct to demand to be treated with the dignity we deserve.
 
 
+25 # Shea Brown 2010-12-30 22:54
The truth is all this TSA stuff is a grand waste of money, pretending to make folks feel safe. Ground crews regularly do not go through similar security, and some pilots have pointed this out, and have been chastised by our government.

We would all do well to read "The Obviousness of Anarchy" by John Hasnas,, a law professor in Washington. Governments create wars,, people do not. Time to fix what we all know is out of control. We are no longer a three part government; it is now Executive, Legislative, Judicial, and The Pentagon. And the Pentagon has become just as powerful or more than any of the other three.
 
 
+17 # Ramona Rhoades 2010-12-31 11:51
Five part government:Exec utive, Legislative, Judicial, The Pentagon, Corporate. Corporate funds and drives all four.
 
 
+14 # Barb Alotis 2010-12-30 23:08
it just sickens me to read such horrible experiences my fellow flying friends have had to endure.

My experience within the past three months (RDU/Vegas and RDU/Nashville) were nothing at all like that. For sure, I had anxieties prior to going through Security but I have to say that the TSA employees (women) were as polite and as nice as could be - and I was never groped and probed like the stories I am reading. Now I have to fly to CA and I only hope and pray I continue to have an "uneventful" event.

I don't know the answer to all this. However, the humiliation these searches cause should not be tolerated.
 
 
+18 # redjelly39 2010-12-30 23:09
I think we should all demand a new pair of gloves for every person searched and make sure they are new coming straight out of the box. I dont know that this will make a huge difference but it would add some pressure to their jobs of having to put on new gloves 1000's of times a day and the added expense of buying a whole bunch of gloves.
 
 
+16 # Phreaderixs 2010-12-30 23:35
You are mistaken to call this Orwellian.
Orwell was commenting on the strength and growth of National Socialism (Nazisim) and the growth of it throughout Europe (also the strong signs within the USA). This is simply defined as the very close cooperation and co-opting of Government by Business (privatizing what used to be done by the Government Agencies at 1/3 the cost). In other words, the more that Government is run by Businesses and privitized (Blackwater etc) the more we are Nazis. Where are the black shirts, brown shirts and all? Ah, they have picked blue as their color for the air enforcers, and no one employed sees a problem with what they are doing? Must have released all the sex offenders from prison.
 
 
-4 # Harry Omwake 2010-12-30 23:40
I read this article with some consternation because I know this is not approved behavior for TSA agents, as my son is one of them. I know on occasion some people abuse their powers and if some agents are doing so it should be stopped.
A general pat down up and down your inseams does not seem so invasive under the present circumstances. I have flown twice since these new rules have been put in place and have seen little delay and as yet no complaints. I saw several pat downs on each occassion and saw nothing untoward and no reaching under the clothes whatsoever.
I have always considered myself very liberal but this is an issue which will win few points and if misused I feel it will equate with liberal praise for Hugo Chavez and many of the attacks on Obama(SOME do have merit)and other such choices which actually hurt the liberal cause.HarryO
 
 
-14 # Tnissen 2010-12-31 00:06
I too am concerned with the erosion of liberties and 4th Amendment protections against unreasonable searches in America. But to me these airport searches aren't unreasonable at all, and consenting to them with good humor is, in my opinion, just good citizenship. Perhaps I have been lucky, because the searches that I have had to endure in airports have not been intrusive in the least, and if they had been, I wouldn't have taken it personally at all. To me such searches are just are a reasonable sacrifice that each of us is asking the other to make out of regard for each others'= lives. So your taking umbrage the need for personal sacrifice in cases of this kind ends up reminding me of Charlton Heston insisting that the only thing that matters is him and his gun. Whether in him or you, such inflexible insistence on personal liberty looks to me like nothing better than a sense of peevish entitlement pompously tricked-out as ethical high-mindedness .
 
 
+16 # angelfish 2010-12-31 00:18
This is criminal assault and borders on the OUTRAGEOUS! Allowing Cretins who work for TSA to probe, finger and explore our most intimate, personal body areas WITHOUT DUE CAUSE OR SUSPICION is tantamount to Sexual Assault and/or Rape. Just because they plan to assault all passengers in the same way does NOT give them the right to do so. It was bad enough when they confiscated our perfume, mouth wash and lotions, etc. without due cause but the line MUST be drawn someplace. If at all possible, I will no longer use the Airlines and will seek alternative methods for reaching far off destinations. If they try to abuse us on trains and buses, I will DRIVE myself! If passengers wise up and start to use other methods for reaching their destinations, perhaps TSA will call off their assault Squads. How are you all liking your BRAVE NEW WORLD?
 
 
+7 # Alice 2011-01-02 01:49
Exactly. This crosses the line and assumes that EVERYONE getting on an airplane is guilty of being a terrorist bomber -- law of the land says that everyone is innocent until proven guilty and mandates that law enforcement must have a reason to search, a reasonable suspicion that you are a threat. TSA is clearly in violation.
 
 
-18 # Sandy Robertson 2010-12-31 01:04
It all sounds dreadful, and no doubt some of those doing the 'patdowns' exceed their mandate, but the sad fact is that there are people in the world who want to harm us with terrorist acts. They're wrong - violence is never justified on innocents (even though we in the west provoke terrorists by our illegal wars) - but they exist. And although pundits often protest that those of us who "don't look like" terrorists should be exempt from these measures, I'd rather suffer them than see another Lockerbie disaster (and I once flew in that very plane). Sad, but we're stuck with this situation and though I'm no fan of authority I think in this case their motives are right.
 
 
+16 # Ed McC 2010-12-31 01:17
I suggest that Ms Napolitano get the full treatment each and every trip that she takes so that she gets the varied techniques that these people use...so she can be humiliated and brought to tears as well. Maybe that will smarten up this smug Tax Payer Paid employee to maybe think she and the government has gone too far. Obama should also have to have the full TSA treatment each time he travels just to make sure he doesn't carry something dangerous up his cavities. I am disgusted!
 
 
+24 # derekcollins 2010-12-31 02:00
From the millions of "pat downs" has anyone anywhere come up with anything as dangerous as tooth brush??,From far of Australia i feel really angry that decent law abiding citizens can be treated this way,N Chomsky was correct when he said the gov't is scared of your democracy
 
 
+21 # KMC 2010-12-31 02:01
What about cancer survivors or handicapped people who should not have any medically unnecessary radiation or the handicapped, who can't accomodate physical patdowns, due to physical or mental reasons?? And many unlucky people fall into BOTH categories!!
How do these TSA mandatory rules comply with the Americans with Disability Act???
Has the ACLU or anyone else tried to bring a lawsuit on these grounds, perhaps???
 
 
+21 # Daniel Fletcher 2010-12-31 02:12
I have declined to fly since the scanners were installed and have used other modes of transportation because if any TSA agent gropes my junk I have serious doubts that I will be able to constrain my desire to become violent. I refuse to be irradiated so this means I can't fly. I won't put my wife or children through this and I don't believe I can even witness it without blowing up.
I would be willing to pay extra flight insurance and fly with a crew that had no objections to taking passengers that were not irradiated or groped, but I doubt that option will be given.
The day I cannot take any public transportation without the risk of being personally violated is going to be a hell of a day for me. Has TSA ever considered the possibility that they are in fact inciting domestic terrorism rather than making us safer from it? I regard it as a certainty that at some point, someone's going to go off over this and a lot of people are going to get hurt. I'll go one further. If anyone gropes my duaghters, someone's going to get hurt for sure.
 
 
+18 # elaine 2010-12-31 10:40
I agree 100%. About 4 years ago, there was an incident with a female suicide bomber overseas, and so for about one week they were groping random women ONLY, at the airport. I am a female who was singled out of line, at the Bangor, Maine airport and had my breasts groped in front of a line of male passengers. I had to face towards them while i was groped. It doesn't matter what the intent is, if you are humiliated like that, it feels like nothing but molestation. Rage just came over me.. and I had violent thoughts too... but no one does or says anything because we just want to get home, and not be strip searched. Osama has definitely won, if he has caused the US to publicly grope it's own people in order to visit grandma.
 
 
+3 # othermother 2011-01-02 17:51
I haven't been through Bangor in more than 10 years. Last time, a polite male agent asked if I minded removing a belt whose buckle had upset the scanner. I didn't mind.

Your horrible experience is a long way from that. I wonder what would happen if our rage under the conditions you describe led to a simple act: scream, as loud as you can, and go on until the groping stops.
 
 
+1 # elaine 2011-01-28 19:39
othermother, I believe any type of protest would lead to being hauled off and strip searched. Even the scanner machine use has been abused early on. While my husband traveled for business constantly and never had anything happen to him, I was not so lucky, even though I only flew a few times over a couple of years. I was also taken out of the security lines on two different occasions to "try out" those new scanners 5 years ago. I knew it seemed weird at the time, because I never saw any men (or anyone else) selected for the scanners. After the 2nd time, I looked up those machines on the Internet and was not surprised to learn that those machines could see a person's naked body. It seemed very obvious they were selecting me because I was a woman. There was NO choice in the matter... I have been afraid to fly for the last 5 years because of these invasions of privacy!
 
 
+13 # othermother 2010-12-31 02:47
The scale of TSA 'inspections' is such that there will inevitably be bona fide molesters on the job. We need to bring pressure to bear for clear and effective complaint procedures. We can do this by informing the ACLU of bad episodes.

What about creative enforcement on our part? When you retrieve your belongings, use cell phone to photograph especially offensive TSA personnel and post to Facebook? As I've not flown recently I don't know how this would go down.
 
 
+22 # soularddave 2010-12-31 03:19
Bin Laden, and the rest of the world is laughing at us.

For what?? Believing that 19 Arabs flew planes into buildings so we get treated like this by our government.

dumb, dumb, dumb.
 
 
+5 # othermother 2010-12-31 04:09
Greensox, I too will opt for scanning. I can do this because I'm old and don't fly often. Radiation exposure may be a concern for frequent fliers and the very young.
 
 
-28 # Scott Griffith 2010-12-31 04:57
Oh, come on, Jennifer! Do you imagine you've got something under your clothes that no one else has? People blow up planes now. It seems to me that there are quite a few realities you still need to face, about physical intimacy, about the risks to our lives, and about being positive regarding nuisances.
 
 
+22 # Glen 2010-12-31 12:43
So Scott, when was the last time a plane actually got blown up? And weren't things like that happening prior to the attack on the world trade center - but not as a regular event - and not with the amazing, intrusive "security" methods now employed to prevent another? There was also terrorism. A lot of terrorism occurring repeatedly for hundreds of years.

You deal with it, but not with silly methods, which presume millions of citizens are guilty. As was the case prior to Bush getting put into office, terrorists can be hunted down - and all without attacking and bombing a country back to the stone age or punishing citizens for something they had nothing to do with. With the technology available to especially our military today, there is no way to believe They just can't get this this shit figured out. THAT is why citizens are getting seriously angry.
 
 
+15 # restore2america 2010-12-31 07:37
Somebody needs to finger-search Janet Napolitano in front of a few hundred of her fellow workers. That might change her twisted mind. Or perhaps not. She might enjoy the public humiliation. After all, she is foisting her perverted sexual groping ideas on all of us. Hmmmm, and the perverts in Sweeden are trying to prosecute Julian Asange for what? Hey, the women he had sex with were consenting... at least until the US Government got involved... ooops, maybe that was Janet redux.
 
 
+18 # restore2america 2010-12-31 07:53
This is STUPID:

They [Metro's random bag searches] will occur at various spots among the system's 86 rail stations and 12,000 bus stops.

Randomly search every third passenger at 12,000 but stops? Were I a terrorist carrying a bomb, I'd walk down the street to the next bus stop. This action is nothing more than conditioning Americans to ever-greater government invasiveness - Nazi thuggery without the swastika. There is absolutely no security value to once-in-a-blue- moon totally visible and avoidable bag searches at some random 1 in 12,000 bus stops.
 
 
+13 # DLT88 2010-12-31 08:53
Great piece of the very very sad truth and Fascist tactics going on in this country. Soon, we will probably all go to concentration camps for merely saying these things. I find it off that Facebook won't take the link under "Share" after the article so I will go there and manually put it in. At least I will have good company in the concentration camps. I also will NOT fly anywhere. This is all SO VERY SICK.
 
 
+19 # Hart 2010-12-31 09:19
While airport security screening deserves attention, where are people's priorities? Our privacy is invaded daily by NSA, the FBI, various other intelligence agencies, state and local police and who knows what other agencies. Nobody seems to care anymore about the assaults that are destroying our most basic civil liberties. Talk to me about airport screening only after you're shouting from the rooftops about the Patriot Act and related abominations.
 
 
+6 # dondegeorge 2010-12-31 09:51
I read in the paper today that there's a move afoot to replace the TSA at some airports. I see that as another example of the Tea Party crowd's anti-government stance and their desire to privatize everything, inasmuch as private contractors would be under the same rules as the TSA anyway. I don't think that Jennifer intends to support our right-wing reactionaries, and I respect her outrage; however, I think that we liberals need to be careful about joining in too enthusiasticall y in what is for some Rightists just another part of their anti-government campaign.
 
 
0 # Glen 2010-12-31 12:55
Thank you for bringing this up dondegeorge. Forgetting the big picture in favor of being led around by the most vocal and reactionary in any direction will bring us all down. Those in power truly enjoy that chaos.
 
 
+3 # Glen 2011-01-01 06:56
Folks who clicked on a down thumb here, think about it. And think for yourselves. dondegeorge is merely reminding us all that citizens as well as the government can influence folks. I agree. Research and think for yourselves.
 
 
+22 # Hazelmotes 2010-12-31 10:31
Please understand this a 'follow the money' situation. The very powerful and influential company L-3 (basically owned by the Carlyle Group manufactures the scanners, and they lobbied The Executive and Legislative branches into buying and using the machines at great profit to them. L-3 is headed by Thomas Corcoran. Look him up. His infulence in DC is immense. The bad treatment of passengers is designed to force you to get used to the machines so the stockholders can get richer. This is not about safety. It is about submission to corporate rule.
 
 
+15 # kalpal 2010-12-31 11:26
At the small cost of one incompetent muslim adherent and some plastic explosives, our enemies have managed to create a governmental paranoia that requires travelling American to be groped sexually.

I'd say that Al Qaeda got a great return on its modest investment and America is now and forever housing and feeding a not very bright Muslim fool.

Will this nation ever be proactive rather than reactive?
 
 
-5 # Sky is Not Falling 2010-12-31 12:25
We scream for all the security government can think of. We go to war against the wrong countries; although we defer paying - TAXES - for them.

We're all for harming and killing others but become squeamish when the slightest embarrassment may occur to us. We demand an end to it, at least until someone we know falls from the sky.

Silly fools.
 
 
+7 # dondegeorge 2010-12-31 12:47
And, although the Right's opposition to these searches does not mean that we have to be in favor of them, I would also remind the reader that the Right is also exploiting this issue to promote racial profiling. I'd be just a little careful about with whom I got into bed.
 
 
+19 # Rita Walpole Ague 2010-12-31 12:53
I just submitted a formal complaint, on behalf of my 39 year old son who is autistic/mental retarded/o.c.d.'ed.

In mid-November, he was traumatized at airports in Colorado Springs and Pittsburgh prior to boarding. He asked repeatedly on both outgoing and return flight: "Did you touch me?" He has been trained, since he was young, to not touch people improperly/inva de their privacy. Such 'touching' could result in his going to jail. He has also been trained to immediately report any and all improper touching that is done to him.

As a certified legal assistant, former board member of a local ACLU and current member of the national ACLU, I have offered the national ACLU any assistance they require in order for them to proceed with investigating and/or litigating these violations of civil rights. Of particular concern to me is the irrationality of such invasive searches of individuals while checked in and some carry on luggage is not similarly thoroughly searched.
 
 
+15 # Kathy Dopp 2010-12-31 13:31
I will not be flying anymore. I wonder how much business the airlines will lose because people have decided to drive or ride buses, trains, or boats to avoid invasive patdowns?
 
 
+4 # Texan 4 Peace 2010-12-31 13:51
Actually NO, you don't have to submit to being groped -- you can opt for the scanner instead.
I'm amazed at how this latest bit of political theater has gotten people so much more incensed than illegal wars, torture, or the govt. reading on our email. The message seems to be: "Torture is a minor offense, compared to INAPPROPRIATE TOUCHING, because the latter happened to ME!!" Or, "I don't mind if the govt. spies on me, reads my email and taps my phone, just as long as they don't touch my junk." People should get over themselves and focus on the REAL threats to our democracy.
 
 
+15 # Rita Walpole Ague 2010-12-31 15:00
Texan 4 Peace: Yes, indeed, all this does have a karlroving quality to it - spin 'em, manipulate 'em, distract 'em, the get the damned sheeple used to following orders, no matter how egregious those orders are. And you are so right about far weightier loss of civil.constitut ional rights. Yes, indeed, we've had a coup de etat, and as so many smart, moxie folks in Europe have told me, we Yanks are too naive politically (a.k.a. stupid and self absorbed) to get it. God, are we ever in trouble.
 
 
+12 # Daniel Fletcher 2010-12-31 23:39
I understand your point Texan, but this is so darn obvious that it's hard to pass on. Further, it's just another aggravation too many for many of is. It's a straw but it IS back breaking! Also, the solution to this issue is so obvious. More should refuse to fly. The airlines should be boycotted and law suits should be falling like snow flakes in a storm on our courts. Small potatoes? Perhaps. But if we can't even fly without getting groped or irradiated, this is a hugely symbolic statement of our helplessness to tyrany and it should not go down well with anyone. It doesn't enhance security and it makes us look like idiots...as if we needed to offer any further proof. So, silly us, we hate being a laughing stock. Don't you?
 
 
+16 # suzanne Hedrick 2010-12-31 14:18
I live in an increasingly fascist country...and a terrorist one at that. The US kills people all over the world and looks at its citizens as enemies.
 
 
+8 # Sallyport 2010-12-31 18:03
Maybe it's really all just a plot to undermine the whole idea of mass transit.
Texan 4 Peace, rejoice that people ARE up in arms about this outrage. Taking this lying down is not the reaction of people who have a hope of bringing about peace through activism. This sort of crap is just another way of keeping people fearful and willing to support the war on terrorism.
 
 
-9 # Felibeth 2010-12-31 20:20
Ms. Abel
I'm sorry but maybe I've been extremely fortunate in my travels.I have never experienced the "groping"! I travel constantly on a weekly basis with my employment & I find the TSA employees, to be due diligent humans who are doing their job to ensure the safety of the passengers.
I do not have children but I will tell you that if I did & I was traveling on planes with them I certainly would expect the uttermost stringent safety precautions to deter idiots from trying to get explosives on planes.
I have never seen "groping" by good hardworking individuals working for TSA. So if others have experienced such displeasure, please address the the situation to a supervisor immediately. This "groping" is NOT standard procedure. However, swift, cautious handling of fliers is acceptable to ensure the safety of the planes.
 
 
+3 # othermother 2011-01-05 06:32
I suspect much depends on the workplace culture of the places you pass through. In certain ports of entry, the attitude of customs and TSA personnel is aggressive and
hostile to passengers.
 
 
+7 # John W Greenwood Jr 2011-01-01 04:15
There is only one statement that fits this situation.

TAKE ALL OF YOUR PLANES AND SHOVE THEM WHERE THE SUN DOES NOT SHINE.

I have not flown since before 9/2001
If more people felt this way, this BULLSHIT would stop.

If any of the people that I know fly I WILL MAKE A JOKE OF THERE WILLINGNESS TO BEND OVER. I will do this at every opportunity.
JUST DO NOT FLY FOOL.
REFUSE TO BEND OVER.
 
 
+7 # historywriter 2011-01-01 11:14
I think the "refuse to bend over" comment should be a national slogan that applies to much of our current condition in this country, not just intimate body searches. Has the government turned up a SINGLE instance of a threat through these dehumanizing activities. Maybe that's part of their point--ongoing dehumanization.
I have a friend who has had multiple surgeries in private areas that makes it incumbent on her to submit to a personal patdown. I can't imagine how she is going to handle this--a quiet, modest woman not inclined to make waves.
 
 
+12 # walkerC 2011-01-01 14:42
I just returned from a trip to Europe. I have a prosthetic hip so I always set off the buzzers. I was told that I would need the pat down. The person asked if I would prefer it in a private room. I said no thinking I surely didn't look dangerous (72 year old granny) I could not have been more embarrassed when the woman lifted my breasts up and rubbed under them. Ten she went all the way up to my crotch
I was tired from the long journey and did not have the nerve to tell her to stop. I am outraged and still trying to find a way to put a stop to this.
 
 
+7 # othermother 2011-01-03 08:16
I too would refuse the private room, because I don't want to empower rapists and molesters, whether they are 'only following orders' or not. For this to happen publicly is humiliating, but as I've suggested elsewhere, when the groping becomes obscene, it's time for women to follow the standard advice on molest: SCREAM, and keep on screaming. Will people point their cell phones your way? Probably. Will this get onto you tube? Probably. Will this make it harder for TSA gropers to do their job? I devoutly hope so, and that a flood of such protest will increase the pressure on TSA to back down. God bless you, Grandma.
 
 
+9 # kitten526 2011-01-02 14:08
If most travelers, or even all of them, in this country stopped using planes and started to go by bus or train I guarantee that within a few months this law would be eliminated. The airlines would not stand for it but there has to be an outrage that affects their profits. We all know that this government is run by businesses and the "elected officials" are there for show as they are all bought and paid for. I refuse to fly until this outrageous abusive law is repealed.
 
 
+3 # Tee Heff 2011-01-02 20:17
You are only as old as you feel, but at 88 nobody wants to feel me anymore. Perhaps I should look forward to the search before leaving for Mexico.
 
 
0 # othermother 2011-01-05 06:36
Where is Maxine when we need her? :)
 
 
+10 # Sheila Cee 2011-01-02 22:27
:You people think these pat downs are for security. Balderdash!!. The reason for this treatment has nothing to do with security. Dogs can do this effectively for far less money. The two reasons I see for this obscene behavior are: 1. To intimidate us and prepare us for more intrusions into our privacy. (Haven't you noticed how we have been losing our privacy and freedoms these past few years?)
2. It sure is making a lot of money for those connected with the company that makes these scanners, namely, Chertoff, who is very well connected to the company, the Right Wing and the Bushes.

I suggest you read Family of Secrets and learn what the Bush family has been doing for the last 75 years. Then be very, very frightened.
 
 
+1 # othermother 2011-01-05 06:41
Dogs could indeed do the job for less. But contact with dogs is forbidden to Muslims.
The use of dogs instead of scanners would give Muslim travellers the alternative of being groped and constitute a basis for anti-discrimina tion lawsuits.

I don't doubt that someone is making money from the situation. This is usually true when an undesirable situation fails to change.
 
 
+1 # mickeeL 2011-01-05 11:44
Right on the money! This is nothing more than conditioning for the coming police state if we just sit on our $sses and accept whatever is thrown at us in the name of homeland security.
 

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