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Evan McMorris-Santoro reports: "Blitzer asked if under Paul's libertarian philosophy, a sick man without insurance should be allowed to die in the hospital rather than have the state pay his medical bills. Before Paul could answer that question, shouts of 'yes!' and cheering bubbled up from the audience."

Republican Rep. Ron Paul speaks during the presidential debate sponsored by CNN and The Tea Party Express, 09/12/11, (photo: Win McNamee/Getty Images)
Republican Rep. Ron Paul speaks during the presidential debate sponsored by CNN and The Tea Party Express, 09/12/11, (photo: Win McNamee/Getty Images)

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+8 # DPM 2011-09-13 22:23
What was Ron Paul's answer?
 
 
+6 # Billy Bob 2011-09-14 08:21
Good question. What was his "final" answer?

First, he said "that's what freedom is all about - taking your own risks". Then when pressed if "society should let him die", they showed him saying, "no... well...duh... uh..." as the audience cheered for the uninsured death penalty.

Back pedalling is what I got from the clip. I'm not masochistic enough to have sat through the real thing live.
 
 
+7 # Rainphase 2011-09-14 02:13
Psychopaths unite!
 
 
+26 # LML 2011-09-14 02:48
So it has come to this....they'll start with the uninsureds, hmm, who comes next? Mental defectives, the old, people who don't belong to the same political party, etc., etc., but Heavens forbid that the victim of rape should terminate the unwanted pregnancy...
 
 
+34 # Larry 2011-09-14 03:48
Who in God's name would cheer, in public, no less, the idea of letting a helpless patient die because he or she is uninsured? This nauseating incident demonstrates, yet again, that neither the tea party nor any of its GOP suitors are the real problem. In so believing, we are only chasing our tail. Sad to say, they are merely symptomatic of a frightening national epidemic; the stunning degeneration of our most cherished notions about what it means to be an American.

This revealing outburst, similar to the recent one that celebrated Rick Perry's record number of executions in Texas, shows that the charity and compassion that once motivated us to provide care for the indigent, are now being replaced not just by indifference, but indeed calls to let them to die, and quickly too. The freak show now on interactive display in the GOP presidential "debates" could only be sponsored by a very sick body politic; one suffering from a syndrome of arrogance, selfishness, hatred, greed, and fear.

How is any of this possible? Who could, or would, cheer the death of the uninsured? Look next door. And vote.
 
 
+17 # kelly 2011-09-14 07:49
Who? The same people who were outraged just last year at the health care bill(not "Obamacare" as they want to call it) which they said would bring up death commissions for grandma. These hypocrites will throw newborns to the wolves but save fetuses, watch 30-somethings die and sacrifice the well being of everyone they believe doesn't fall into the political goosestep they seem to march to. I watched to see if anyone could rise above the fray after the dismal performance at the Reagan Library(I'm a dem but I was hoping that somebody other than Perry would emerge the winner) but all I found was a blood-lusting crowd in three-piece suits and red, white and blue scarves.
 
 
+6 # LeeBlack 2011-09-14 10:06
In an 'individualisti c' society everyone is on his own. Their is no concept of 'common good'.

We can go back to the colonial days where a fire department only responded to fires in homes where people had paid their fire department subscriber fees.
 
 
+20 # irvingwood 2011-09-14 05:18
The Sickness of America! What an image! Streets littered with dead and dying who would not or could not pay the criminal cost of health care in America. Indifference and greed on a cosmic scale. The callousness and cruelty of the Tea Party crew can hardly be credited.
 
 
+20 # abby in N.H. 2011-09-14 05:26
He mumbled something about letting the churches kick in and pay, like they did when he was practicing medicine in his early years. It's incledable to me and very scary the lack of compasion these so called christians have for their fellow human beings. Jesus must be so so sad and really pissed off at what has and is going down in his name.The right wing majority is neither.
 
 
+12 # Glen 2011-09-14 06:20
You can bet there are folks planted in every single Tea Party type event. That accomplishes two things:

Folks who support the Tea Party get some perverted satisfaction out of the emotional outbursts.

Those who don't like the Tea Party types have more ammunition to use against them and their extreme attitudes.

This particular question ignores a more realistic scenario concerning insurance, however, in that thousands of folks cannot AFFORD insurance as opposed to choosing not to have it. Probably comes up a lot in these "debates".
 
 
+8 # Billy Bob 2011-09-14 08:26
You're right. And you can bet that, if the question had been about someone who couldn't afford health insurance, the audience response would have been the same.

Afterall, they're "responsible for their actions" too, right - even if the action they're responsible for not affording parents who could afford to help them afford college, so they could afford to keep their job.
 
 
+9 # Cailleach 2011-09-14 10:00
Or they were paid minimum wage their entire lives and couldn't afford to save anything. Oh yes, maybe minimum wage jobs were the only ones available where they lived.
 
 
+13 # Billy Bob 2011-09-14 10:34
When I was younger and relying on minimum wage just to make rent, I had multiple minimum wage jobs, because no one in the town I lived was willing to allow you to work full-time at one job, and risk having to pay anything at all in so-called "benefits".

At the time (I don't know if the rules have changed since), I was actually denied a student loan because I wasn't supposedly making enough to prove to the state that I was "independant". Therefore, I must have been receiving financial help from my parents, who were retired and relying on the Social Security checks. I couldn't go to school for two years, because I didn't make enough to pay for it, or even enough to be given a frickin' loan.

Later, I worked a low wage job for the state of texas (sorry to say). They had a way to get around the legal requirement to pay overtime for working overtime. As soon as you worked 1 minute over 40 hours, you were "technically" working for a "private contractor" - hence, working a "second job". This way, you could work 80 hours a week without earning overtime. In fact, the "private contractor" paid less than the state. Afterall, they were private and needed to show a profit. So, in effect, overtime pay was LESS than the base rate.

The cards are stacked, and the people who stacked them are now the Twit-Party base.
 
 
+2 # Glen 2011-09-14 10:17
Billy you stated that you couldn't sit through the entire "debate". Same here. It is all for show.

Most all questions, as in tests in schools and attempts to gain information from citizens in surveys, can be skewed with no right answer. The questions in these events, I will bet, are as this one, and framed to trap even the audience.
 
 
+4 # Billy Bob 2011-09-14 11:35
They're framed by the candidayes and their handlers. They're about as meaningful as "taste tests" in commercials.
 
 
+20 # tswhiskers 2011-09-14 06:45
So now we know how well religion and politics mix. Thanks, but I'll take a bit of healthy agnosticism over this kind of Christianity any time.
 
 
+18 # jon 2011-09-14 08:08
What is going on in America today is an almost exact repeat of what was going on in Germany during the 1930's.
 
 
+17 # reiverpacific 2011-09-14 09:45
This is the main reason I've never become a US Citizen and plan to return to Europe hopefully in five years max.
As an illustration, my dad died in a private room in comfort, and dignity in Scotland paid for by a national system WHICH HE'D PAID INTO ALL HIS WORKING LIFE. He was an engineer and not wealthy. This took so much stress from his survivors including myself; the grief of losing a loved one is enough without having to be saddled with the astronomical costs of his care.
Now my American wife's dad, who was comparatively well-off as a former car dealer and, WW11 pilot on the carriers, would have been OUT ON THE STREET if he had not been financed in his waning months by an former fellow pilot and dear friend who had become very wealthy and wanted him to die in dignity.
I have personally been bankrupted by the US non-health-care system (with insurance) and have gone from a six-figure income, to being one of the "New Poor", struggling to recover some form of business and having had to take early Social Security to have any income and pay the mortgage. -And I'm a fiercely independent entrepreneurial type with a good work ethic and deep sense of pride in what I do.
And these ignorant, unfeeling bastards want to make it worse!
One is reminded of Schindler's List" where the Nazis just shot at will, anyone not fully productive or elderly.
 
 
-7 # head out the window 2011-09-14 10:41
Paul did answer and said no but was cut off, he was also cut off on his answer on another question by blitzer who promised to come back to him and didnt. there is a war on ron paul from both parties and the press because he represents the biggest threat to the establishement whether you agree with him or not.
 
 
+6 # kelly 2011-09-14 14:40
Yeah? Well, when your head is hanging out the window, something is bound to be flapping...or throwing up. Paul had plenty of chances to show exactly where he was. We all saw his lack of compassion and the thumbing of his nose at the underprivileged . He doesn't wish to end war on humane but monetary grounds. He is paranoid and would be an isolationist if he weren't so scared that the government was trying to contain us while others try to push in on us. He is as much a comic relief as a genuine candidate, although his supporters are vocal and net-smart. There doesn't need to be a war on Paul; for no other reason than if there isn't one he'll make one up to frighten himself and everyone else with anyway.
 
 
+12 # Lulie 2011-09-14 10:46
The Libertarians constantly spout off about "freedom" and "responsibility ," but apparently that includes giving insurance companies the freedom to let their insureds suffer, die, or go bankrupt, and to take no responsibility for it.
 
 
+12 # Abigail 2011-09-14 13:35
We should terminate all federally and state supported health care for officials, including US Senators and Representatives , President and vice-President and their employees which we, the people, both insured and uninsured, are paying for, before they are allowed to present or oppose medical care for all. An eye for an eye, and coverage for coverage,
 
 
+4 # KittatinyHawk 2011-09-14 14:45
They keep allowing this Country down the tubes there will be nothing for anyone and we can all watch each other die.

I would love to drop them off in a colony of lepers with no way to leave. These people know nothing about caring, understanding and that comes from their family, church, upbringing. It is becoming so evident there is no feelings, we lost that when we allowed Technology to raise our children not us.
That Cell Phone is just not that important. That Call could have gone unanswered...in stead our children were given pc's and xboxes. I remember going and doing acts of charity, helping others..not for money. I do not see kids giving a darn to even help their parents without that money sign
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2011-09-14 14:30
He allowed the mentality of his following speak for the GOP/TP. These are the same people who jeered at Jesus when time came to Crucify him. Didn't actually think people have changed just because they are
Americans?
First you have to be brought up to believe in what the Lord created and gave us, in order to have any belief in oneself or accept and love others.
Yes these are the'Jesus Freaks" the Born Agains aren't they just what this World needs. They sound and jeer a lot like the other parts of the World when we are being killed there.
 
 
+6 # lark3650 2011-09-15 11:06
The look on Ron Paul's face, his lack of a response, and hearing the crowd shouting that this young man of 30 should die and take responsibility for his choice to not participate in a healthcare program made me cringe. Instead of these people calling for the death of this young man, they should be calling for the death of these greedy insurance companies who put a higher value on money than the health and welfare of human beings.
 
 
+4 # suzyskier 2011-09-15 18:51
Yes it is not only that people get sick, this country is getting sicker every day from these heartless tea bagger/conserva tives. It is indeed shocking to someone like me who thought that the 60's and 70's were enlightening to see how all those dreams have gone up in smoke.
 
 
+2 # suzyskier 2011-09-15 18:47
I didn't think the question Wolf Blitzer asked was really very well thought out. I would like to know if he had asked if a person who is living from pay check to pay check, and has no medical insurance (forget about Medicare, Medicade for a minute as that is something these tea party types want to see end) were to get ill what should happen to him/her? Would they let this person die because he/she is poor?
 
 
0 # Eliz 2011-09-19 11:00
Larry,
I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. What's really ironic is, the Republicans and their Tea Party supporters claim to be CHRISTIAN! I thought the Christian ethic was taken from Christ: "I was hungry, and you fed me, I was naked, and you clothed me." No if, ands or buts, no "If I do this for you, then you owe me!" Add to that: "I was destitute, and you helped me find lodging, a job, a rise out of poverty."

And Christians can't claim to have this idea as their own, either. Since Christ was a Jew, he was only repeating an ancient Jewish custom - the Mitzvot, or good deed. I'm afraid Americans in general have lost sight of this simple morality and have sunk into the sewers of greed, selfishness, blame, ignorance and arrogance. If there is a God in this country anymore, I hope he/she gives them a dose of their own medicine!
 

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