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Intro: "The sexual assault case against Dominique Strauss-Kahn is crumbling. Was there a shakedown? A conspiracy? The answers will come from New York's West African community."

France's President Nicolas Sarkozy (left) greets Guinea President Alpha Conde at the Elysee Palace in Paris, 03/23/11. (photo: Benoit Tessier/Reuters/Landov)
France's President Nicolas Sarkozy (left) greets Guinea President Alpha Conde at the Elysee Palace in Paris, 03/23/11. (photo: Benoit Tessier/Reuters/Landov)

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-5 # Barbara K 2011-07-01 13:10
Rape is rape is rape, and it doesn't matter who the victim or who the criminal is. Once again, the one with money gets away with his criminal activity, rape, in this case. It makes one wonder if money exchanged hands here too.
 
 
+14 # Pyotr7 2011-07-01 15:10
Right, and alleged rape is alleged rape, and perjury is perjury. It's took complicated a story to be begging the question like this. You don't know if a rape occurred, period. The certainty of your comment shows a "Don't confuse me with the facts" attitude.
 
 
+12 # Ken Hall 2011-07-01 16:05
Barbara: Did you read the article? There are so many questions that have arisen subsequent to the incident that a cautious person should not use the word "rape" to describe what happened. There is no hard evidence, only "he said, she said". At this point only the woman involved and DSK know for sure, and their accounts differ. One of the problems is that so many people have already jumped to conclusions on very little information. Innocent until proven guilty should be our watchword.
 
 
+1 # paradoctor 2011-07-01 17:37
There certainly is hard evidence, in the form of DNA.
 
 
+2 # John Talbutt 2011-07-01 18:53
Evidence of what?
 
 
+8 # Steve S 2011-07-01 21:56
DNA evidence can prove that sexual contact took place, but it can't show whether it was forced, consensual on the man's initiative, consensual on the woman's initiative, or any other circumstances.

The developing details of the case suggest the possibility that she may have made a rape accusation for money. It's also possible that a rape _did_ occur, and she's trying to make money on the side.

"Blame the victim" is wrong. But "automatically trust the accuser" is also wrong. The police are doing their jobs by following up.
 
 
+8 # RSJ 2011-07-01 16:11
@ Barbara K: After reading the preceding story, and especially the recorded call with her jailed friend in which the accuser brought up the possibility of making money from the charge, can you really say for sure this was rape and not consensual sex?
 
 
0 # RSJ 2011-07-03 09:36
While I don't read Rupert Murdoch's NY Post, there is no reason for the neocon rag to go to bat for the liberal socialist DSK. Here's what they reported yesterday:

The Sofitel housekeeper who claims [DSK] sexually assaulted her in his room was doing double duty as a prostitute ... The Post has learned.

The stunning new info surfaced yesterday as the accuser was unmasked as a pathological liar and scam artist by prosecutors whose rape case has unraveled. [...]

The Lies She Told

“I cowered in fear after DSK’s attack.” She told a grand jury under oath that after she was sexually assaulted in DSK’s hotel Suite No. 2806, she fled down the hall, where she cowered until she saw him leave for the elevator. She then immediately told her supervisors of the attack, she said.

TRUTH: She eventually confessed to prosecutors that what she really did after the “attack” was clean two rooms, including Suite No. 2806. Only then did she tell hotel staff what had “happened.”

“I was gang-raped by Guinean soldiers.” DSK’s 32-year-old accuser swore …

TRUTH: “[Subsequently] she admitted that the gang rape had never occurred,” prosecutors told defense lawyers in legal documents. “Instead, she stated that she had lied … “

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/maid-cleaning-up-as-hooker
 
 
+3 # William Bjornson 2011-07-03 17:49
RSJ: No reason? Regardless of their public postures, both the perp kahn and the perp murdock are zionists. Did murdock happen to mention kahn's other accusers in other places? Hmh? Prostitutes, liars, other corporate types get victimized too, and handle it poorly. Imagine yourself being victimized by some sociopathic member of the 'world elite' and YOUR chances in such an encounter. The only question here is did kahn act inappropriately as his history suggests he is prone to do. This is a classic 'blame the rape victim' smear and, despite decades of feminism, is clearly alive and well in New York, as so many evil thing are.
 
 
-2 # RSJ 2011-07-04 10:04
@ William Bjornson: Your comment has some glaring errors: First, the US media did not blame the victim, just the opposite. Go back and read the press right after DSK was perp-walked -- they all had him convicted and in jail and none questioned his accuser's statement or past history.

Secondly, Sarkozy's camp did previously dispatch a prostitute to try and lure him into a scandal. As far as the other accusations that came out after DSK's arrest, I have to ask where these people were before he was arrested. Some of them have political axes to grind, and none of them charged him with anything more than possibly acting like a pompous jerk. While that might mean he's not a nice man, it's also not illegal. Aside from that, as I have posted elsewhere, this is a conflict of cultures: DSK's 'seductiveness' would not raise an eyebrow in France; in America, burdened with our history of puritanical repression regarding sex, it's a scandal.

As far as your claim that DSK is a diehard Zionist, I have read no reports of that, but I do know that Rupert Murdoch's conservative worldview is diametrically opposed to DSK's liberal philosophy and Murdoch's news outlets were the first to enthusiatically jump on DSK and convict him in the media.
 
 
+2 # paulrevere 2011-07-01 16:07
The way I see it...the rape may not have happened at all...where exactly was the DNA evidence gathered from? The links to big time politics are just far too strong to not consider a set-up. You can't cry rape until ya know a rape was committed. It seems that the poh-leece are equivocating a bit, if this article remains valid.
 
 
+8 # shagar 2011-07-01 16:12
hmmmm...so i guess since rape is rape, we can also assume that smear is smear with equal credibility? And I guess the concept of "Innocent until proven guilty" takes a backseat to both these lofty notions? Spare me please, and to spare you the trouble of replying, allow me to admit in your "court" barbara, I am either a misogynist or incredibly naive, I just can't decide which. Oh wait, I know, door number three, "waiting for all the facts to be revealed", somewhere other than the tabloids.
 
 
0 # Activista 2011-07-01 21:58
"please, and to spare you the trouble of replying, allow me to admit in your "court" barbara, I am either a misogynist or incredibly naive ..." - yes - you ARE
guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jul/01/dominique-strauss-kahn-in-court
 
 
+7 # Bruce Mitchell 2011-07-01 16:20
So, BarbaraK, you've seen all the evidence, have you? The rest of us somehow missed the trial. Oh, I see. You are now judge, jury and executioner, so DSK must be guilty as charged! What rot.
 
 
-1 # Activista 2011-07-01 22:00
guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jul/01/dominique-strauss-kahn-in-court
this is HER story - conservative Muslim from Africa - against RICH pervert Kahn.
Guess who will buy justice.
 
 
+4 # RSJ 2011-07-02 15:53
Activista, did you even read this article? This is the accuser's close friend:

"But pride of place goes to the photograph of Fofanah and Alpha Condé, who was elected last November as president of Guinea, the country from which DSK’s accuser immigrated and requested political asylum. Condé, as it turns out, also has extensive ties to major political players in France, including people close to—wait for it—both President Nicolas Sarkozy and Strauss-Kahn, who had been expected to be the incumbent’s main challenger in next year’s elections."

"As The Daily Beast’s John Solomon confirmed earlier this morning, there were inconsistencies in the accuser’s asylum application when she came to the United States, unusual financial transactions into her personal accounts, and she had contacts with an incarcerated drug suspect. The day after she allegedly suffered the Strauss-Kahn assault, she was recorded talking to the suspect in jail about the possibility of getting money by proceeding with the charges against Strauss-Kahn. According to [the NYT] ... the woman had five different phones and had received as much as $100,000 into her accounts in the last two years from the man in prison and others, although those were not thought to be linked in any way to the DSK case."

This is your 'conservative Muslim woman from Africa'?
 
 
+7 # maddave 2011-07-01 16:39
Even whores get raped, but does that make the rape acceptable in any context?

In this case there WAS carnal knowledge & DNA evidence to prove it; no money was reported to have changed hands; and despite elaborate and presumably exhaustive investigations by both NYPD & a provate firm, no record has surfaced regarding previous prostitution or even promiscuity.

Now, because her apparently legal behavior was not socially acceptable to certain hypocritical political wags and sycophants, the alleged victim's credibility and her story - backed as it is with physical evidence - are being trashed. She's being hung out to dry.

I look forward to the inevitable civil suit.
 
 
0 # Activista 2011-07-01 22:02
There will be trial except bought media propaganda - there is so much physical evidence of RAPE.
guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jul/01/dominique-strauss-kahn-in-court
 
 
0 # RSJ 2011-07-02 15:55
Ridiculous nonsense -- if the NYPD and prosecutor could be bought, why didn't DSK do it before he was charged and his reputation ruined? Do you think they were holding out for a higher price?
 
 
+1 # angelfish 2011-07-01 23:11
If this woman's allegations prove to be false, she has set back the cause of women EVERY WHERE who have REALLY been assaulted by powerful, wealthy men! Upon proof of her deception and alleged entrapment of this man, she and her co-conspirators should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the Law!
 
 
0 # Activista 2011-07-02 08:28
Strauss-Kahn had hired TD International, an international investigating and troubleshooting firm with extensive CIA connections, to dig into the accuser’s background and connections. ..

She is the simple conservative woman from Africa .. given ALL the MONEY Kahn "invested" in the smear campaign she looks extremely credible.
Let her testify and court decide - there is overwhelming evidence that Kahn is sick rapist.
 
 
-3 # RSJ 2011-07-03 16:12
Activista, while DSK may be a seducer and womanizer as has been alleged by some, and he may have an open marriage where his wife approves of this conduct, none of that is illegal, and it does not make him a rapist. In this case we have a conflict of cultures: in France, a politician having an affair with a mistress is nothing, even expected; over here it's a major scandal that will end his career, and his political enemies will use it to try to impeach and remove him from office.
 
 
+4 # DidSomeKnobbing 2011-07-02 00:19
@maddave
Why do you think she is being hung out to dry?
How likely is it that a French presidential challenger tries to rape a chambermaid with all the risks involved? Is it not more likely that the girl was set-up to do this, to claim 'rape' after consensual intercourse? It seems that the lady has a shady background in any case, and I would not put it past Sarkozy to arrange something of this nature with the help of his African friends.
 
 
+2 # TrueAmericanPatriot 2011-07-02 19:02
Quoting DidSomeKnobbing:
@maddave
Why do you think she is being hung out to dry?
How likely is it that a French presidential challenger tries to rape a chambermaid with all the risks involved? Is it not more likely that the girl was set-up to do this, to claim 'rape' after consensual intercourse? It seems that the lady has a shady background in any case, and I would not put it past Sarkozy to arrange something of this nature with the help of his African friends.


He is just ONE of the many SADISTIC PERVERTS that thinks he can get away with anything because he is allegedly rich, powerful, AND ABOVE THE LAW!!!! LOCK HIM UP!!!
 
 
+3 # Michael C 2011-07-03 19:45
Sadistic perverts? That would be Cheney and Dubya, both of whom have admitted ordering torture. How about if you Rethugs go after the admitted sadistic perverts first?
 
 
+2 # Habib Khan 2011-07-02 01:00
Does this mean that a person with a doubtful past is condemned for life and any future crime against him/her will be looked upon with an eye of suspicion and those committing the crime against them will get away with murder?
I think the case should be looked into its own merits and look at all of the evidence available from the time the act was reported and take into consideration the medical reports available. Past history of the accused or the accuser (kept in view)but should not interfere with the decision on this particular case.
 
 
+8 # doggone 2011-07-02 09:09
I think it is possible that the new "facts" are a part of a smear campaign, a very handy and common tactic used against political rivals, muck rakers, whistle blowers, anyone inconvenient and in the way. It is also possible that many of the facts against the woman are true but taken out of context and out of our "privileged" western world thinking. We of first world status often have no idea what others must do to escape poverty or terrible conditions. We don't even know what the conditions are like that others must live with and want to escape from. And then parade around shaking our fingers at how these "criminals" got their freedom or a better life. DSK sat in luxury while waiting for his legal team to dig up good ammo to smear her with, he has the resources and a good cover to help him get free, all tools of the power elite, regardless of his innocence (or not) he has all the advantage no matter where you start
 
 
+1 # Activista 2011-07-02 11:24
"but taken out of context"
it is amazing how many $$ "truth" finding agencies are there to get mud on NYT front page.
Reminds me of Iraq Judy type propaganda.

The concept of justice is long gone - NY prosecutors are bending under money and political pressure.
 
 
+2 # RSJ 2011-07-02 15:57
Except, doggone, it was the NYPD who 'dug up' the details of her past, as the article acknowledges.
 
 
-1 # drush 2011-07-02 09:38
This has to be the worst Journalism I have seen RSN put on.
Come on a wealthy man is on the dock because of his bad behavior. If there is dna evidence that is something. That is injecting not just Tweeting.
Take it to Court. That is a place to sort things out.
Next thing you know she will be in Jail and NY will be paying reparations to Con.
 
 
+1 # Activista 2011-07-02 11:31
this is sad - I agree. My post were post-hoc erased, some never posted.
There are so many ways how to manipulate internet.
And the evidence presented by the lawyer for African woman were published in Guardian:
www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jul/01/dominique-strauss-kahn-in-court
where is the objectivity?
 
 
0 # RSJ 2011-07-02 16:00
Activista, they were probably erased because you kept repeating the same thing, as you did on this subject in another thread at RSN. Your zeal to convict DSK is remarkable.
 
 
0 # Activista 2011-07-03 13:18
RSJ - during my life I was subjected and heard many justification for CENSORSHIP - but yours seems to be most NAIVE. I would like to hear from RSN why/who erased posts already published. Maybe you can help me.
Thank you.
 
 
0 # RSJ 2011-07-03 16:04
Activista, if you were posting the exact same information repeatedly, to erase some of the repeated postings is not censorship. I don't know if this is what happened, but I'm giving one possible reason why some of your posts were expunged. Obviously, you are not being censored in this thread.
 
 
+2 # Activista 2011-07-02 22:08
Quoting RSJ:
Except, doggone, it was the NYPD who 'dug up' the details of ehr past, as the article acknowledges?.

Please - more like - detectives with Guidepost Solutions LLC, the global investigations firm that’s reportedly been hired by Dominique Strauss-Kahn’s defence team, are in Guinea probing the background of the 32-year-old hotel maid whose allegations last month led New York police to lay charges of attempted rape against the former IMF chief. Guidepost, which enjoys international reach from its Madison Avenue address, is who you hire if, like Strauss-Kahn, you’re married to the multi-millionai re Anne Sinclair—an agency said to charge in the range of $700 an hour per investigator. -- and this is on of many collecting "information" on the maid Kahn raped.
As I said before - nothing is verified - but for the money spent - SHE came out as saint.
 

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