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Intro: "At an Army base near Seattle, soldiers are committing suicide, murdering their families - and in one case, waterboarding their own kids. Winston Ross reports from a base on the brink."

A US Marine rests after a firefight in Mian Poshteh, Afghanistan, 07/19/19. (photo: Joe Raedle/Getty Images)
A US Marine rests after a firefight in Mian Poshteh, Afghanistan, 07/19/19. (photo: Joe Raedle/Getty Images)

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+46 # Vardette 2011-09-10 22:32
This was hard to read. Really awful. Human life means nothing to the military and corporations. Only their agenda at any cost. This is just another horrible consequence of our hateful, inhumane regime. Millions dying in fabricated wars for profit, private mercenary armies that are costing us billions, thousands of disabled young people for what? We are an empire of abuse, death and destruction. As we become impoverished our ruthless military are like the overlords of Mordor. These are truly dark times for all of us. It has all gone too far!
+19 # Erdajean 2011-09-11 09:22
Thank you Coriander -- I'd only add that maybe the WORST of it is that the young people caught up in this hell are giving everything for NOTHING. The last war with human meaning was WWII -- it's been political and greed-spawned murder ever since -- killing people who have done nothing to us. How is THAT for morale? Also, every image of national leadership before them is grossly evil -- Guns and Greed Rule! Lie to get ahead! Or, currently -- Do whatever EVIL commands!
We've GOT to end this NOW. And we've GOT to break the noose the Fascists are tightening around us ever hour. And, clearly, we'll HAVE to do it on our own.
+8 # OpenMind 2011-09-11 22:40
The Vietnam war ended when Congress finally refused to fund it. I think the time has come for us to pressure our representatives to do the same.
+32 # X Dane 2011-09-11 01:05
And Bush can't think about anything he would have done differently???? ? His lies are costing so many lives, Iraqis, Afghan, and our souldiers and Marines.

It is digusting to see Bush, Cheeny and Rumsfeld out peddling their books. None of them have any regrets.

What is even more sickening to me...that people are standing in line to buy and have their boos signed.

When Bush was president, his speeches were always given in front of a bunch of soldiers, "we really appreciate our military" and then he would cut their benefits.

Along with 9-11 he is also responsible for destroying the military. He lied them into war, so they have to go back again and again. Driving them crazy
+35 # Ralph Averill 2011-09-11 04:36
Perhaps another reason for all the problems is that soldiers come home from the gory pressure cooker of combat to a country that doesn't seem to be at war at all. Except for some patronizing "heroic soldiers" lip service from a few politicians, (many of whom are bought and paid for by the defense industry,) the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan don't exist at all for most Americans. The evening news is all about the economy, the latest natural disaster, and the grotesque political theater of the absurd in Washington. (The PBS Newshour, to their credit, periodically airs the names and pictures of soldiers killed in combat.) Multiple homecomings to a nation that seems to be living in an entirely separate reality has to be a force-multiplie r to the stress of multiple deployments. Add to this a political/milit ary/media establishment loathe to admit, let alone deal with, any problems at all with "our brave soldiers" returning home, one is left wondering if every returning combat vet isn't a ticking time bomb.
+17 # Kootenay Coyote 2011-09-11 08:16
The Military rule is simple & self-evident: use 'em, abuse 'em & lose 'em.
+13 # fredboy 2011-09-11 08:43
Is there anyone out there who didn't see this coming?
+23 # stonecutter 2011-09-11 09:11
I'm commenting as an enlisted veteran of USAF Intel overseas during the peak of the Cold War and Viet Nam. It was risky, sometimes dangerous, there were always elements of fear, but it was an effing cakewalk compared to what these young men and women are facing, especially in multiple deployments. They deserve so much better than they're getting.

The late George Carlin, my personal supreme being and unerring philosopher of life, spoke sharply in his last few HBO specials before his death in 2008 about how the ruling powers of this country really don't give a damn about the rest of us, and that cynicism is reflected in this wrenching article. The president and the Congress and the Pentagon talk a good game about their concerns for our troops, blah, blah, blah, but where the rubber meets the road, the policies and the services to help and support them are just not there. I myself have experienced this to a much lesser degree in my status as a VA patient, although in fairness I can't say all my VA treatment has been indifferent or insensitive--th at is simply not true--but for these young combat vets, it's unconscionable they not receive the help they need by "order" (mandate) to deal with their PTSD in whatever form it takes.

I'm not sure the great Carlin was 100% accurate in his caustic assessment of our government, but he was damn close enough.
+9 # reiverpacific 2011-09-11 11:25
Thank you "stonecutter060 2" for your assessment based on experience in the war theater and attempts to get the rest of us non (military)-comb atants to understand some of the horrors -and maybe even some of the people like the appalling sociopath Col. Oliver North who seem unaffected by it all and urge their own men to escalate and perpetrate greater slaughter in it's many forms.
I attend meeting of "Veterans For Peace" in my area as a supportive listener and just to educate myself on what is possible to be done for peace in general and to get the nub of what these guys went through for lies from the power-brokers who want to dominate us all over the bodies of whoever will jump into a uniform and take up arms.
Of course it all comes back to Bush/Cheney/Rum sfeld/Rice, who should be strung up like the bodies Mussolini and Clara Pettacci for their crimes (and I'm anti-death penalty!), not one of them of which (except Bush, who kept the skies of Texas safe from the Vietcong before going AWOL) who served a day of active duty but who urge others into unilateral combat, itself a war-crime.
And it's only going to get worse as more and more unhinged combatants come back from a totally alien environment (Imagine wearing these combat suits in 120° F for a start??!!).
We will be reaping this particular whirlwind for a long time.
+2 # Adoregon 2011-09-11 11:46
What goes around comes around.
+8 # Anarchist 23 2011-09-11 12:12
On this day of all days, let us look at the truth with clear eyesand free of myth and lies. the Official History is leis and these soldiers are also part of the damage of those lies. They need spiritual healing as well and we ALL need an end to these many wars (Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya.....and?) but as long as we believe the lies, fail to unite, and keep anger and the idea of the enemy in our hearts..we shall reap the carnage of war here in increasing amounts.
+6 # David Starr 2011-09-11 13:33
An overall tragedy, not only based on the Bush regime's lies, but as another symptom of an old pattern played out for years contributed to by a foreign policy that has long gone beyond the idea of self-defense.

Partiotism itself is not neccessarily the problem. (After all, every country has it.) But when going extreme, combined with other factors, it's more often than not a revealing of empire.

Then, inevitably come the victims, in this case, the illegal Iraq War: Those among the U.S. military. And we directly cannot comprehend what many Iraqis are going through, with their own suffering, deaths, and trauma. Though we can imagine; not totally out of sight, out of mind.

Yet, this is another example; not only for soldiers having the justification to directly rebel, but the general public as well. One day.
+6 # OpenMind 2011-09-11 22:37
"It was the 11th “suspicious death” (the Army has yet to officially declare any of them suicides). . ." SERIOUSLY?! Is the military so deep in denial that it refuses to contemplate what war does to our own young soldiers, let alone to the millions of unfortunate "collateral damage" left in its wake?
+1 # Tee 2011-09-12 21:34
Now I see clearly the reason for the fabricated 911 attack. So Bush and Chaney could start wars and make alot of money.

The soldiers like the above mentioned are an after thought to people like Bush, Chaney, and Israel dual citizen neocons.

These monstrous acts are married to the fact that Americans have been put to sleep by the corporate media, material consumption, Foxnews propaganda, and a daily dose of unreality TV.

If the American don't wake up these monsters will start another cycle of false flag 911 attacks, starting another war probably against Iran, and sending our children to foriegn lands to be driven crazy, injured and maimed, or brought home in a body bag.
0 # Michaeloff 2011-09-13 13:46
PTSD requires 2 basic Elements:
A very stressful experience, obviously.
And a pre-existing significant Chronic Anxiety condition.
The Battlefield is most effective at providing the first.
Pyroluria Infection is the most common cause of the second.

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