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McLaughlin reports: "Asked to comment on the NSA spying case, Wozniak didn't hold back."

Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak. (photo: Marcel Antonisse/AFP/Getty Images)
Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak. (photo: Marcel Antonisse/AFP/Getty Images)

Apple Co-Founder Steve Wozniak Slams NSA Spy Program

By Kevin McLaughlin, Business Insider

22 June 13


pple co-founder Steve Wozniak is really, really concerned about about the NSA spying scandal.

Last week, Spanish tech news site FayerWayer did an impromptu interview with Wozniak in the waiting lounge of a Spanish airport, and posted it to Youtube.

Asked to comment on the NSA spying case, Wozniak didn't hold back.

The way he sees it, the NSA spying case is just the latest example of the US government trampling on citizens' Constitutional rights in the name of stopping terrorism.

"All these things they talk about in the Constitution that made us so good as people, they're kind of nothing. They all dissolved with the Patriot Act," he said in the video interview.

"It's extremely clear in the Bill Of Rights, [but] one thing after another [ has been] overturned. And that's what a king does - has anyone rounded up, killed and put in secret prisons."

Wozniak said when he was a kid, he was taught to fear Communist Russia because its government was known to spy on citizens and arrest them unlawfully without cause.

"They followed their people, they snooped on them, they arrested people, put them in secret prisons-they disappeared them. We're getting more and more like that," Wozniak said in the video.

Wozniak also seems to believe Edward Snowden, the 29-year-old former NSA contractor who leaked details of the agency's surveillance tactics, is telling the truth in his descriptions of the powers he had.

"That sort of structure is wrong," he said.

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+23 # KrazyFromPolitics 2013-06-22 20:06
I wonder if any other computer whiz's know that their creativity has been turned back on them. Or will they be like law enforcement bullies that don't know that they are part of the 99%?
+3 # Tmoney777 2013-06-23 17:50
The key to this whole equation is the word "person" that is what makes this ALL legal... who owns the "person" you, snowden etc.
+28 # phrixus 2013-06-23 07:32
Wozniak nailed it. We have become nothing other than a fascist, corrupt police state. Democracy is dead in the United States.
-19 # bingers 2013-06-23 07:47
Quoting phrixus:
Wozniak nailed it. We have become nothing other than a fascist, corrupt police state. Democracy is dead in the United States.

And Apple is one of the fascist corporations screwing us big time. The only reason Woz is against it is because they could expose all his anti-American crap if they wanted to.
+4 # phrixus 2013-06-23 12:49
What "anti-American crap" are you referring to, specifically?

It is true he is a part-time employee at Apple.
+18 # angry 2013-06-23 07:47
Please... private corporations can give campaign contributions and public entities cannot. Follow the money. The privatization affair is 100% due to cash bribes.
+2 # Tmoney777 2013-06-23 17:51
Follow the logic, PRIVATE vs PUBLIC... now you are onto something!
+14 # MendoChuck 2013-06-23 12:04
"when he was a kid, he was taught to fear Communist Russia because its government was known to spy on citizens and arrest them unlawfully without cause"

I to recall this very clearly . . . .
The Patriot Act has to go.
-12 # tabonsell 2013-06-23 15:27
Wozniak is right, that the Patriot Act is a piece of crap.

But he doesn't understand how NSA works. First off, NSA doesn't have police power, and it can't share its information with police agencies unless those personnel have the necessary clearances. Few do.

Try this and the Fourth Amendment NSA critics constantly refer to. If NSA were to go the the special court for a warrant to gather information it would have to divulge that the "things" it wants to seize are terrorist plans and plots. It would have to say the "place" it wants to search is the world's electronic communications. Getting a warrant this early would open up every phone in the world to wiretapping and allow NSA to monitor every cell-phone connection and all wifi activity.

That is scary.

But, if NSA runs all that gathered data through a computer that eliminates all domestic activity and only concerns itself with foreign info, as the law requires, computers could further isolate only data concerning communications into and from known terrorist hot spots (Yemen for example) and suspected terrorists safe houses or communication identifying marks. Then it would get a warrant that applies to this minute slice of the data (one one-hundreth of one percent perhaps), not the entire data, as NSA critics seem to want.

To ignore al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups would be suicide and to change how things operate now would be more dangerous to Americans' freedom than is the present situation.
+6 # Charles3000 2013-06-23 19:31
Think. An operator is sitting at a workstation controlling the program operation. What Snowden said was what is obvious. That operator can "tune in" to any phone and eavesdrop. That is what is wrong. Think of the "odd jobs" that operator could secure from politicians during champagnes, from attorneys in a hard case, from a hubby who wants to snoop on his wife. That kind of power can not be allowed to be up for sale to the highest bidder. If Snowden was lying the government should ignore him. If he was truthful then NSA has a huge problem.
+6 # Nominae 2013-06-24 02:15
Quoting tabonsell:
Wozniak is right, that the Patriot Act is a piece of crap.

But he doesn't understand how NSA works.........

Obviously, neither do YOU. First you present an apology for why the NSA MUST violate the Fourth Amendment, and then things go from there into a childish fantasy as you pretend that the NSA is somehow compliant with the law.

Get a law book. The IRS is legally ABOVE the law, and the NSA and JSOC are above ANY law, and ALSO ABOVE the IRS !

So you are both right ANd wrong.

You are correct that things would work MUCH better *IF* the NSA, JSOC, et al, actually DID obey *any* kind of law, from ANY legitimate legislature, but then, if wishes were fishes we'd all eat for a week.

You are WRONG in pushing the Pollyanna Pretense that the NSA DOES obey *any* kind of law, from ANY legitimate legislature.

As author William Boardman pointed out in one of his replies to your comments, pretending that the NSA is END ALL and BE ALL of the Global Surveillance problem is just simplistic and wrong.

As he also mentions, ALL Americans over age 21 know that the NSA has a SOLID HISTORY of lying and lawbreaking, and also of suffering NO consequences if, and when they ever get caught.

You persist in a pretense that everyone is a peachy-cheeked, purely honest boy scout at the NSA and elsewhere. Obeying the law and lovin' their Moms.

What a PRECIOUS innocence !
0 # watchman58 2013-06-26 15:53
The most important thing Wozniak said is the last thing he said... All this trouble comes from the top. How do you get rid of these traitors who have commandeered the vote by controlling the ballot box (see for the proof) and how do you hold them accountable to their oaths of office when they won't even respond to petitions for redress of grievance (see givemeliberty.o rg for repeated infractions) and so I fear for my children and grandchildren. If they won't back down, oppression and then revolution is inevitable. So when you see treason, high crimes and misdemeanors at this level, where do you look? Well the old adage is "Follow the money." If you want to go down that rabbit hole, check out economiccures.c om and see where that leads. If there is a tree that needs chopping, this is where you'll figure it out. BTW, don't look for a saviour. The only ones who will save us is us - individually and collectively. How? Thoreau told us two centuries ago. Be the friction that grinds their machinery to a halt. Kill them with a million little blows. Resist, protest every infraction, and demand adherence of the oath of office. For a practical example, every time I go to an airport, I refuse the xray and during the pat-down I demand a reason why they are violating their oath to defend the constitution by subjecting me to illegal search and seizure of my personal property. I tell them they are in treason to their oath and that makes them traitors!

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