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Rau Reports: "The American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona has released thousands of e-mails that it says proves Arizona's controversial immigration law was racially motivated."

Senator Russell Pearce speaks to the Arizona Red Mountain Tea Party members at East Valley High school in Mesa, Arizona, 03/19/12. (photo: Tim Hacker)
Senator Russell Pearce speaks to the Arizona Red Mountain Tea Party members at East Valley High school in Mesa, Arizona, 03/19/12. (photo: Tim Hacker)

Emails Show Arizona Immigration Law Racially Motivated

Br Alia Beard Rau , Arizona Republic

21 July 2012


he American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona has released thousands of e-mails that it says proves Arizona's controversial immigration law was racially motivated.

The e-mails, acquired through a public records request to the state Legislature, are to and from former senator Russell Pearce, who authored Senate Bill 1070.

The ACLU included dozens of those e-mails as part of a legal filing this week, asking U.S. District Court Judge Susan Bolton to prevent a key part of SB 1070 from going into effect.

The e-mails from Pearce in the court documents include statements like, "Can we maintain our social fabric as a nation with Spanish fighting English for dominance ... It's like importing leper colonies and hope we don't catch leprosy. It's like importing thousands of Islamic jihadists and hope they adapt to the American Dream."

They include statistics such as "9,000 people killed every year by illegal aliens," and "the illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two-and-a-half times that of non-illegal aliens."

Pearce did not return calls seeking comment. While all the e-mails were sent from Pearce's personal or legislative e-mail address, it is unclear if they were all his own words or if some of the statements were taken without attribution from other individuals.

Email Excerpts

These are excerpts from e-mails Russell Pearce sent from 2006 to 2011. The American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona acquired about 10,000 pages of e-mails from legislative staff via a public records request.

"The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two-and-a-half times that of non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the U.S."

"The birth rate among illegal immigrants is substantially higher than the population at large."

"Last week, Denver's illegal aliens sang our national anthem in Spanish and bastardized the words of OUR country's most sacred song."

"Battles commence as Mexican nationalists struggle to infuse their men into American government and strengthen control over their strongholds. One look at Los Angeles with its Mexican-American mayor shows you Vincente Fox's general Varigossa commanding an American city."

"They create enclaves of separate groups that shall balkanize our nation into fractured nightmares of social unrest and poverty."

"Corruption is the mechanism by which Mexico operates. Its people spawn more corruption wherever they go because it is their only known way of life."

"Tough, nasty illegals and their advocates grow in such numbers that law and order will not subdue them. They run us out of our cities and states. They conquer our language and our schools. They render havoc and chaos in our schools."

"We are much like the Titanic as we inbreed millions of Mexico's poor, the world's poor and we watch our country sink."

(The following was taken from an e-mail with the subject What's a racist?)

"I'm racist because I don't want to be taxed to pay for a prison population comprised of mainly Hispanics, Latinos, Mexicans or whatever else you wish to call them."

"I'm a racist because I believe the News Media has a duty to tell us the names and race of criminals."

"I'm a racist because I object to having to pay higher sales tax and property tax to build more schools for the illegitimate children of illegal aliens."

"I'm a racist because I dislike having to push one for English and/or listening to a message in Spanish."

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+94 # Barbara K 2012-07-21 13:08
It absolutely is racially motivated, it is obvious. Do you see them locking up us white people or asking white people for papers? I hope it can all be thrown out and their nutty Governor and Legislature with it. Hope the voters there smarten up, Arizona was once a beautiful, friendly, state.
+27 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-21 19:19
Funny thing was Arizona was Indian Territory and some of those Indians have a Heritage from Mexico and Central America.

Funnier thing is Racists are moronic enough to actually believe they are White.

There is not true White Culture but a factor of further we traveled away from Equator since Adam/Eve. Sadder thing is the need for Tanning Salons for people who hate people of color.

We make no sense
0 # Okieangels 2012-07-22 13:20
Sorry, Oklahoma was officially Indian o the beginning of the 20th century.
+5 # Billy Bob 2012-07-22 21:35
Oklahoma was government DESIGNATED Indian territory. Arizona was ACTUAL Indian territory until it was taken over by whites.
+78 # Cactusman 2012-07-21 13:27
The ugliness and fear of some conservative minds....
+61 # Inland Jim 2012-07-21 13:29
Yep, racist.
+25 # kelly 2012-07-21 14:07
Sounds like something Jeff Foxworthy wrote..."you know you're a racist if..."
except that I like Jeff Foxworthy and he actually admits to having friends like George Lopez.
+66 # chrisconnolly 2012-07-21 14:09
It seems they need to hate somebody. Wasn't it the commies before it was the 'niggers'? And before that wasn't it the Irish? Christian fueled hatred seems impervious to Christ's teachings. Hopefully the truly christian will stand up and say by their votes that the Republicans do not represent this country's supposed beliefs.
+42 # bigkahuna671 2012-07-21 16:06
If "True Christians" actually believe in hell, then it is filled with them and their ilk. Christ himself would be an illegal alien, after all, he spoke Aramaic and was from Asia Minor. Further, he consorted with questionable people like Mary Magdalene and (gasp) tax collectors. Ouch, I say. How could Christ be so unchristian as to not live and breathe Redneck Christianity?
+21 # WestWinds 2012-07-21 20:24
The Right-wing doesn't have a single solitary genuine Christian in it. These people are robots that are programmed in the Jesus Camps, brainwashed through Homeschooling kits and wound up to do their worst in places like Liberty, Regents and Patrick Henry universities. These people just like to give themselves airs, primarily the air of being legitimate but because they have nothing of value or common sense to offer real human beings, they cloak themselves in the mysteries of the Bible and claim a higher moral authority which we know to be devoid of true merit.
+2 # ghostperson 2012-07-23 01:13
By saying that they like to give themselves airs you give then to much credit. They are not cursed with introspection or insight. They are malignant marcissists and like other personality disorders are untreatable. They never assign to themselves any role in the problem. It is their nature, their character and traits to be self-absorbed, know-it-alls whose most outstanding characteristic is intolerance exacerbated by arrogance. Think Limbaugh, Cheney, Rove, Beck and Coulter [Sp?].
0 # ghostperson 2012-07-23 01:05
Well said!
+8 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-21 19:22
It has always bee 'heathens' no matter who they were. It has always been who had what they wanted. In most circumstances they killed for God, then God and Country.
Now it is just a need to kill Look at Colorado again stricken.
We can thank Video Games, Parents who do not spend family time, and the NRA allowing anyone to have as many guns and ammo as they put in their lives.
+6 # SpyderJan 2012-07-22 08:27
Does anyone else wonder if there is a connection between the Colorado shootings and the rant by Rush about the movie being meant to defame Romney? How many more young impressionable people will go ballistic after listening to hate speech? Just sayin'.
+2 # oldibtgdy 2012-07-22 14:26
Wayne lapierre spoke less than 48 hrs before the Virginia Tech massacre and less than 48 hrs before aurora. His rants to major righty groups are amazingly divisive and inflammatory. Between lapierre and rushbo, the message gets honed.
+5 # WestWinds 2012-07-21 20:20
Excellent point.
+36 # Jyl 2012-07-21 14:14
Why is Russell Pearce allowed to keep his job?! Surely such emails should serve to have him thrown out on his ear ...
+15 # DrEvel1 2012-07-21 19:59
Russell Pearce was in fact removed from office by a recall election in November 2011. So he does not at present have any official pulpit. These emails were from his period in office before the recall. So be happy, Jyl! He's out of office!
+9 # WestWinds 2012-07-21 20:26
Because the Right-wingers on both sides have taken this country through the Looking Glass where good people telling the truth and protected by the Constitution as members of the Fourth Estate are witch hunted to ground, and global genocide is a Christian value.
+49 # tuandon 2012-07-21 14:29
So..Big News, eh? We find out that the racists are racists. My parents were immigrants...He ck, Arpaio's thugs could have locked up my mother, though she was Italian, not Hispanic. Somehow I don't think those oafs in Arizona are smart enough to know the difference. Get rid of the lot of them, starting with Arpaio and ending with that Nutcase Governor of theirs. They are a disgrace to America and all it stands for.
+30 # Skeptical1247 2012-07-21 14:36
You can dress it up with semi-plausible excuses for SB1070, but it's rampant redneck racism that inspired it and got it through a corrupt legislature. Sad really...
+15 # Mrcead 2012-07-21 16:50
That's how they do it now and it is pathetic. These folks go by the literal meanings of words and don't realise that the context must also be upheld. They get away with it because we allow it through the literal interpretations of our laws.

Take the extended castle laws. 13 states passed them after the Katrina disaster - why? Why would hurricanes prompt 13 states to rescind "duty to retreat?" To grant powers to kill looters on site and make them pay, that's why. Check the gun boards around that time and you will see the Katrina posts centered around the reaction to the looting and what "should have been done", not particularly concerned about the victims of a disaster. If it would have been called the "kill looters on site without legal repercussions bill" no one would have voted for it. So instead they wrapped in "stand your ground" pride cloth and used the example of that woman who shot the intruder to protect her baby (although existing castle laws already allowed her to do so) as their closer.

Take Rush Dimbulb and the Teaparty. Hedge hedge hedge when they're wrong - "It's not my fault she's a slut", and many other of their greatest hits. Just so they're "flawless on paper."

So how do we see through the conservative camouflage? Ask, "what's in it for them?" to unveil the true intention. They only like 3 things: money, power and punishment.
-11 # WestWinds 2012-07-21 20:33
I'm on the Left but I uphold the Castle Law. I live in a lawless town in Central Florida and my home has been vandalized and burglarized more times than I can get a number on, over the past seven years. It wasn't until our governor reasserted the Castle Law that these people started to have second thoughts about what they do. Now they send their children in to do their bidding thinking that no one would shoot a child who is looting and vandalizing... wrong. If you are on someone else's property doing the wrong things, you get what you get.
+5 # Mrcead 2012-07-22 04:20
I don't oppose castle laws at all if you read my post. I oppose legally chasing people down the street and killing them, then getting to sleep in your bed the same night without so much as a trial to make certain one isn't a criminal. I oppose the carte blanche approach to collateral damage as a result of defending oneself in such an encounter.

That's what I oppose. I would never tell someone they didn't have the right to defend themselves, I merely oppose the tendency towards vengeance that ultimately makes one a criminal - or worse, a narcissist. "Extended" castle laws like stand your ground promote vigilantism which was outlawed for a good reason. These new laws protect a person if they kill bystanders defending themselves or property - that's ridiculous. So the choice is either carry a gun or get caught in the crossfire?

If the police aren't doing their jobs:

1. Find a way to pay for better training or increase the police force (hard to do if conservatives wish to eliminate police pensions - aka the light at the end of the tunnel).

2. Light a fire under the police chief because he isn't doing the job he's paid to do.

So I don't have a problem with people defending their property and their home at all. I just have a problem with people using a 3rd world justice system in America.
+20 # Billy Bob 2012-07-21 14:52
I wonder if any right-wingers will comment on this thread?
+38 # Billy Bob 2012-07-21 14:55
We already knew that the law was racist regardless of whether the people behind it showed their intent verbally. The law itself is just as racist as any comments they made. It's just surprising to find conservatives openly admitting what they think in this day and age. Usually they hide behind code words.
+4 # WestWinds 2012-07-21 20:40
They believe that Koch, Walton, DeVoss et al money trumps all. Sadly, when the Contract on America was getting started, it was calculated that only 25% of the US population sided with the Far Right. Now, they are telling us it's 50% of the population. Since the beginning of the Contract on America, a couple of generations have been born into Right-wing rhetoric with the Left joining in where expedient or lucrative. What could you expect? Good values and humanitarian beliefs must be taught and we certainly aren't getting that out of the churches of today; they're all on the Right-wing's payroll.
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-07-22 21:36
The last I heard, only about 18% of Americans currently agreed with the right-wing.

It doesn't matter. The right wing gets everything it wants because it controls everything.
+37 # Mrcead 2012-07-21 14:58
Conservatives always do this; Hold our values hostage in order to push their true agendas through.

"Standing against us is helping the enemy, that makes you a traitor."

You can't very well break the law in order to enforce it and not raise a few questions in the process. Absolutists scare me because they are willing to burn down an entire village to search for one man.

The day a conservative makes a statement regarding policy without a double bind attached to it will be the day Satan hosts the winter Olympics.
+22 # Tigre1 2012-07-21 15:07
Fat, pasty, privileged beyond the imaginings of Bengaladeshis or most of China...on a pinnacle, fighting off the very people who in their attempts to come here mostly carry what their own ancestors revered...livin g their selfish sadism fighting off poorer and weaker people in their attempts to get a piece of the 'pie'...

The word "share" is not in their vocabulary. Their own ancestors would puke...
+31 # Davethinks 2012-07-21 15:12
I thought that I understood racism, having grown up in segregated Maryland, but I knew nothing. I moved to California & in time entered the Air Force & was stationed for training in Biloxi, MS. I had a leave and as I returned to base, I hitchhiked thru MS in uniform and received the "stare" of the xenophobic people of that place. And so I
"felt" the hatred with no reason. I have felt it since but nothing like my brothers & sisters of color. I know what racism is and Arizona law about immigrants is bloody damned racists!
+15 # bingers 2012-07-21 20:16
When I was in the Army I was being transferred from Ft Monmouth NJ to Redstone Arsenal AL. The Huntsville airport was closed for Labor Day, so they deplaned us in Chattanooga and put us on a Trailways bus.

At the rest stop they had colored and white drinking fountains and rest rooms and non-whites weren't allowed in the restaurant. (This was 1958) So I took orders from those folks who were hungry or thirsty and willing to spend money in a Jim Crow establishment.

A few months later I got on board a Birmingham bus with a black soldier who was a friend. We were forced to sit in the back and the names we were called were so vile I can't repeat them here. The contorted faces dotted with spittle and with veins popping out convinced me that if we hadn't been in uniform we would have been murdered on the spot and the police would have ignored it. The Army wouldn't have stood for it though and they knew it.

There but for the good will of presidents Truman and Eisenhower they would have found our bodies. As we can see in Arizona and most of the Southern states, that mind set is still there.
+50 # midwestgirl 2012-07-21 15:16
"They create enclaves of separate groups that shall balkanize our nation into fractured nightmares of social unrest and poverty."

Hmmm, I think that prize actually goes to the stinky old white guys who wrote those emails. They support the plutocratic policies that have stolen the American dream from everyone and then blame those least responsible and most harmed by those same policies. As for naming the race of some of the nations biggest criminals, both financial and for crimes against humanity, not to mention theft of the American Dream.

George Bush, White
Dick Cheney, White
Jaimie Dimon, White
Robert Ruben, White
Larry Summers, White
Timothy Geithner, White
Alan Greenspan, White
Lloyd Blankfein, White
Ben Bernanke, White

And that is only the tip of a very long list of greedy old white guys who have stolen far more from each and every one of us than the entire Latino population, or even all minorities in this country rolled up into one, ever have.
-43 # Patrick Butler 2012-07-21 15:26
It's not being a racist to expect everyone qwho comes her to obey our laws from the start. And that means coming in throuigh the proper immigration process. It's not being racist not to want t6o pay medical and education costs for thousands of foreigners who don't beling her, while thousands of Americans are in dire want. Mexico is not our problem. Let the donw down there take care of their own people.
+28 # Inland Jim 2012-07-21 15:45
Who do you imagine elects the pigs who refuse to help the "thousands of Americans... in dire want"?
+23 # WestWinds 2012-07-21 20:49
I might agree with you except that the reason the Mexicans are coming here in droves is because our government sacked their corn economy with Monsanto one-season
only corn. This was no accident. The corporations here in the US want cheap labor. I worked in one such place as middle management and the 30 workers under me were all illegals from Mexico and Middle America that the shop owner was paying less than minimum wage. If we hadn't savaged their country with Monsanto corn, if we didn't offer jobs to illegals here in the states, if we didn't support the corrupt Mexican government (which I'm sad to say we have been instrumental in getting Conservative elected in Mexico and Canada) then I might agree with you. But our hands are not clean in all of this; not at all.
-50 # Patrick Butler 2012-07-21 15:31
It's not being racist to expect everyone to follow our laws. It's not being racist to be unwilling to pay the medical and educational costs of people who den't belong ehre. And it's not racist, incidentallyl, to expect them to learn English, not expect us to learn Spanish. I'll learn Spanish if I ever become a permanent resident of Mexico. In facrt, I'd learn it before going down there. It's not unreasonable to expect those folks to play by the asme rules we live by if they ever want to become one of us. In the meantime, let the dons down in Mexico take care of their own and we'll take care of ours.
Basta! Emough!
Pat Butler
+22 # rblee 2012-07-21 16:02
Just sad.
-8 # forparity 2012-07-22 10:37
Obama's campaign promise at CNN hosted Democratic debate in las Vegas 11/15/07:


Now, I have already stated that, as president, I will make sure that we finally have the kind of border security that we need. That's step number one. (Applause.)

Step number two is to take on employers. Right now, they -- an employer has more of a chance of getting hit by lightning than be prosecuted for hiring an undocumented worker. That has to change. They have to be held accountable. (Applause.)

I believe that we can take the undocumented workers, the illegal aliens who are here, get them out of the shadows, make sure that they are subject to a stiff penalty,

make sure that they're learning English

make sure that they go to the back of the line so they're not getting an advantage over people who came here legally

and we can once again be a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants. That's what I intend to do as president of the United States. (Cheers, applause.)

He lied to get elected because he clearly understood that 80% of the country agrees with those views.
+1 # oldibtgdy 2012-07-22 14:31
That's ridiculous.
-4 # forparity 2012-07-22 16:25
What's ridiculous? What Sen. and candidate Obama promised he'd do as President?

Note: those are his words.
+17 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-21 19:46
Do you know that most European, Asian, Middle Easter persons know more than one language. Do you know that when we go to other Countries people always know who we are because we never took the time to learn anything about their Country or their
I learned Latin as a child...I was not Roman. My Grandmother spoke Gaelic. I grew up in NY and there were People from all over the world living in NYC I learned Spanish, My sister French. We learned it so we could speak it if we were able to travel. I learned it to work.
When I went to Puerto Rico I was able, 40 years later ask for Food, Water, Bathroom and say hello. I have used languages to fill out questionaires in case of disaster so the organizations trying to save lives could speak to elderly that still speak German, Russian and other languages These people in cities, towns across America came here 70 years ago still do not speak English, should we shoot them also, put them in prison?
No we should learn languages so we can actually accept the Cultures including all Spanish speaking as they were here first if history is true. They discovered this hemisphere. Then we took it away from the Indians who we also did not dignify by learning their language.
Stay sweat off me. But perhaps when judgement comes Jesus and God won't understand your language. Jesus and God don't speak Racist
+13 # cynnibunny 2012-07-21 16:54
I am hoping that these emails found by the ACLU will start a dialog about what we can call racist motivation (prejudicial actions and the attitudes that - usually hidden or suppressed - motivate them). It has been the argument of right wing, usually GOP politicians that racist actions - laws, lack of action (re: Katrina), institutional tendencies (lack of Affirmative Action mandates) - are only racially motivated if there is an explicit intention made public. As a result, those that argue against the racist legacy in this country fall prey to attacks by carefully trained propagandists. These propagandists (Glen Beck, and those GOP Senators that argued against Sotomayor's confirmation - such as GOP Senator Lindsey Graham) focus on the racialization of the issue, while in truth the invisible racism has already taken place, and the social critic is seeking redress for it.
+9 # thomachuck 2012-07-21 18:44
Bob Herbert, who used to write for the New York Times, recently said during a cable talk show interview that bigotry has found a safe house in the Republican party. I think he is undeniably right. How many local communities are filled with people who privately think and talk like the quotes in this story (but would more publicly deny it)? It would be nice to be able to say "we took care of this in 1863 with the Emancipation Proclamation" (or in 1964 with the Civil Rights Act); but sadly, we can't.
+7 # rcossebo 2012-07-21 19:31
If "WE THE PEOPLE" don't start standing up for "our" rights, we're going to be losing a lot more; this proves ALL of our rights are on the block! Think about it, there was the prose about the Nazi's coming for the Jews and I said/did nothing...then they came for me. Well friends, it's just around the corner unless we start getting these sickos out of office! Impeach, recall, and make sure we vote them out when they're up for reelection; whatever, we need to move back to the STATESMANSHIP the Founding Fathers wrote into the Constitution! How many people even KNOW what the Constitution says; or means?
+9 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-21 19:54
I believe if we actually had a lawyer to discuss this. People especially Government are accountable for their language in written form.
I believe our Justices are not upholding any Laws that we would be liable for...Discrimin ation, Derogatory Remarks, and all in writing.
I believe in the interest of America all these letters of Arizona Officials, Bachman et al should be enough to have resignation asked for, and gotten.

Anthony Weiner used his cellphone on Taxpayer time to send pictures of his personal hot dog and he was asked to step down. His weiner was his embarassment, he resigned. I expect no less when Government Employees who take Oath of Office to hold their pens tightly, to resign post haste.

Illegals who came into this Country should be deported if found I do not care what color or religion. But if Rich People brought them here to do their bidding, then they should be held responsible with imprisonment or deportation. Then perhaps we would hire Americans at fair wages.

Racists are like people who kill wolves under false pretenses...the y will never stop killing even when the Wolves are all dead. Racists never stop hating ask the Indians.
+2 # mangosmum 2012-07-21 22:30
You are so correct- racists just find other people to hate.
+3 # cordleycoit 2012-07-21 20:37
Been there and met these retired managers now dumpster diving for food. They want clear title on their food store's dumpster
-3 # bobmumf 2012-07-22 05:13
Many of these statements are not racist. They purport to be facts and either are true, or are not. For example: "the birth rate of illegal immigrants is substantially higher than the population at large." I believe this is demonstrably true. One may iew this fact as good or bad or neutral, but it is not a racist statement.
0 # Okieangels 2012-07-22 13:36
Most Hispanics I know are here legally, many even born here... If you sorted out the ones who are illegal, the birth rate would likely be much lower than American born citizens. Yes, the statement is racist.
+3 # bissonmw 2012-07-22 08:53
The Puritans thanked God for clearing the land
Of heathens.
They were people for a land
That now was without people
The People of the Shining City on a Hill
Discovered their Manifest Destiny in
God’s Plan
This land is our land
It isn’t their land

With a trumped up excuse
And child martyr’s of Chapultepec
Out of the way
We annexed Arizona and half of Mexico
At the point of bayonets.
Poor Mexico!
So close to United States and so far from God!

Driven from their Mexican corn lands
by NAFTA competition
Mexican peasants
Streamed into what had been their national patrimony
Across a border now dividing the Sonaran Desert
To work illegally for less than the minimum wage.

Vigilantes in the US Congress built an obscene wall
To keep them out.
This land is my land
It once was yours but isn’t now
The earth doesn’t really belong to all its peoples.
-4 # JackB 2012-07-22 09:39
Forgive my ignorance. I have always believed racism involved two or more races. What two races are involved here? Mexicans & Americans are not different races. They are different nationalities.

I believe that the talk of racism involving illegal aliens is simply a standard liberal approach to avoid dealing with the real issue.

Question. How is this country better off for letting in illegal aliens? If we are not better off why do it?
+1 # Okieangels 2012-07-22 13:38
Well, there is a difference in races, as most Americans are caucasians of European descent, and most Mexicans are Native American descent, with a little European blood mixed in, in some cases.
-3 # forparity 2012-07-22 10:10
"The number of criminal aliens incarcerated in California rose to 102,795 in 2009, a 17 percent increase since 2003"

How many is that? Picture the Rose Bowl.

• The source was from a March, 2010 Government Accountability Office (GAO) audit titled: Criminal Alien Statistics. The 102, 795 count can be found in "Appendix III, SCAAP Criminal Alien Incarcerations in State Prisons and Local Jails," on page 62 of the report, where the number in CA is put at 102,795.


Also, it states that on average, each has been convicted of 7 crimes. Wow! - 719,565 crimes - IN CA alone. Imagine the cost to CA's judicial system and police prior to the incarceration costs -- $billions.

Nat'l poll by the very progressive Pew Center - on the AZ law. The Pew folks went right out and literally summarized those supposedly two most contentious measures in the bill (the ones Holder blocked - the ones that the boycotts were over) and found:

• 73% said they backed a measure requiring people to produce documents verifying their legal status if police ask for them,
• while 67% approve of allowing police to detain anyone who cannot verify that they are in the country legally.

And that:

• just 25% support Pres Obama's immigration policy, which includes legalizing millions of unauthorized migrants
+2 # minggnim 2012-07-22 12:21
"...prison population comprised of mainly...". He forgot Christians!
-3 # forparity 2012-07-22 15:06
Ah - the biggest racist of them all . . .

Former Sen Gaylor Nelson, father of Earth Day,

. .U.S. population growth boomed at its highest level in the nation's history! [..]

Every environmental goal has been delayed because of this failure."


Yet we won't stabilize our population as long as immigrants to the United States continue to add 1.3 million people to the population each year – 300,000 of them entering the country illegally. It is a fact that until we address this growing influx of immigrants, who account for about one third of our annual population growth, the population will continue to grow indefinitely despite the nation's success at achieving a replacement level birthrate.


. . any suggestion that the rate be decreased to some previously acceptable level is met with charges of "nativism," "racism," and the like. Unfortunately, such opposition has silenced much-needed discussion of the issue. . This time the charge is "racism," because a significant number of immigrants are of Hispanic descent. Demagogic rhetoric of this sort has succeeded in silencing the environmental and academic communities and has tainted any discussion of population and immigration issues as "politically incorrect."

The issue is not racism, nativism, or any other "ism," however.

End quotes.
+1 # ghostperson 2012-07-23 00:59
Pearce, racism is hatred of others on account of race. What makes you think you won an argument? He spews hatred and sees nothing wrong with it. I live in Arizona. Illegal immigration has dropped like a lead weight since the economy crashed. What work is their to get? AZ is one of the states hit hardest by the housing market collapse brought to us by the fair-haired plutocrats on the receiving end of taxpayer-funded welfare.
To hell with gardners and maids, I want us to go after white collar criminals, the JP Morgans, Citigroupss, Bank of America and Goldman Sachs that demonstrate patriotism to the U.S and loyalty the citizens who bail them out by repeatedly destroying our economy.
I want criminal penalties and mandatory jail time without possibility of parole for the Wolves of Wall Street and their government enablers. Yeah, we have a problem with ERs being used as primary care. But it isn't just illegals doing it. It's the uninsured/unemp loyed masses created by the 1%'s gambling. Tail wags dog n the U.S.A. Pearce, if you are more concerned about less than minimum wage laborers than the 1% economic rapists, you have a problem. RE criminals, AZ could quit jailing potheads. I wouldn't give a damn if every U.S. defense dollar was spent domestically protecting our border from drug cartels and their violence. Half of all world defense spending is by us. For what?
+2 # ghostperson 2012-07-23 02:07
At what point are right wingers required to reconcile what the say with what they do and argue? The party against birth control and reproductive planning attacks illegal aliens because they reproduce too much? So their moral objections apply only to people who live on one side of an arbitrary line? Illegal immigration isn't going away. The question is how to address it? I'll take a stab at it. Let the kids who came her as children and know no other country, enter the military for a reasonable period so others know the path to legality will not be one of pure amnesty. Citizenship could be applied for afterward. Deport recividist felons. Establish cooperative agreements with other countries so felons serve a fixed prison term in their countries. A portion of each state's savings could sweeten the pot for those countries and states would still be money ahead. No food stamps without verified/certif ied proof of legal residency. [I, a U.S. citizen, had to pay out of state tuition in CA until I attained legal residency and emancipation.] No ER as primary care for anybody without stiff penalties. It's the most expensive form of medical care. Establish health clinics in pharmacies. Create low cost ins. policies like those for car insurance. Since schools are supported by property taxes, mostly, create a renters' tax for the same purpose. To get income tax revenue, establish criminal penalties for not withholding federal and state taxes in industries that most employ illegals.

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