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Jo Harrington reports: "But Michael Moore hadn't finished. He raised his hand, 'Number two it's time to make the rich pay. Tax them! How much? Not enough! How much? Still not enough!' The repetition of the crowd made the latter sound like a chant and it became one. Voices rose together in a round of 'Tax the rich! Tax the rich!' Michael waited until it died down, before pressing on, 'They are thieves. They are gangsters. They are kleptomaniacs. They have tried to take our democracy and turn it into an hypocrisy.'"

Filmmaker Michael Moore at Liberty Plaza visiting demonstrators taking part in the Occupy Wall Street protests, 09/26/11. (photo: Occupy Wall Street)
Filmmaker Michael Moore at Liberty Plaza visiting demonstrators taking part in the Occupy Wall Street protests, 09/26/11. (photo: Occupy Wall Street)

Occupy Wall Street: Michael Moore in Liberty Plaza

By Jo Harrington, Suite 101

27 September 11


Occupy Wall Street: Take the Bull by the Horns


Film-maker and author Michael Moore gave a speech at Liberty Plaza, in New York City. He called Occupy Wall Street 'very historical and very important.'

ccupy Wall Street protesters had just returned to Zuccotti Park (renamed Liberty Plaza) from the latest of their daily marches through the streets of New York. It had been a peaceful progress with none of the controversial arrests, which had marred a similar progress two days before. Several people Tweeted that they had made it to the famous Wall Street bull, before turning around and heading to the small urban park that many have been calling home for the past ten days.

They were in good spirits. This was September 26th 2011, when Noam Chomsky had announced his solidarity with the Occupy Wall Street movement. The protesters had seen their inspiration create several parallel demonstrations around the USA. OccupyChicago has already been set up. As the first of the New York marchers entered Liberty Plaza, a huge cheer went up. Another legendary American activist was standing in their midst. Michael Moore had arrived in person.

Michael Moore: "100 Years From Now People Will Remember."

With the bullhorn removed for legal reasons, Michael Moore gave a speech amplified by the 'human microphone' technique. Every sentence he said was repeated in unison by all in earshot and, by this method, even those at the very back caught every word. What he had to say caused goosebumps on the arms of his listeners and ended in rapturous cheers and applause.

"100 years from now people will remember that you came down to this plaza and started this movement." He said, surrounded by protesters echoing it all. "Thank you very much. I am honoured to be in your presence."

This was the climax of an impassioned address. Approximately 100 people heard him in person, but another 5000 were watching from the Global Revolution Livestream. He explained how he had landed in New York City twelve hours previously and 'came down as soon as (he) could'. Unfortunately, it was only a flying visit. He was due to participate in a live debate in the studios of CNN at 9pm. It was already a quarter past seven. But he had to see Liberty Plaza.

"I'm so impressed by what I see here. You have done something very historic and very important. It had to happen somewhere, it might as well be here."

Michael Moore: One of the First Protesters to be Arrested on Wall Street

Michael Moore's speech began with an anecdote, "About eleven years ago, myself and Rage Against the Machine decided to storm the doors of the New York Stock Exchange. For some reason, they're a little faster than I was. I got arrested." He chuckled, self-effacing about his own physique, in comparison with that of his indie-rock band companions. Amid laughter and cheers, he repeated, "I was arrested on Wall Street."

Having established his credentials, he claimed his right to add his own voice to the rhetoric of the campaign, "I know you're in the process of coming up with our demands. If you would allow to state my own personal two cents." He paused, as people shouted their encouragement and consent. "I want to see the people responsible for destroying the lives of millions of people in handcuffs; and led away to justice."

It was just the right tone to use with people, who had experienced over 100 arrests during the past week. But Michael Moore hadn't finished. He raised his hand, "Number two it's time to make the rich pay. Tax them! How much? Not enough! How much? Still not enough!" The repetition of the crowd made the latter sound like a chant and it became one. Voices rose together in a round of 'Tax the rich! Tax the rich!'

Michael waited until it died down, before pressing on, "They are thieves. They are gangsters. They are kleptomaniacs. They have tried to take our democracy and turn it into an hypocrisy."

Michael Moore Encourages the Protesters in Liberty Plaza with Reference to Stonewall

As a long-standing activist himself, Michael Moore knows a lot about standing against large corporations. He urged protesters not to despair by their low numbers. He had been working for twenty years, with a much smaller group of people, and his achievements have been well chronicled. He reminded them that every person there represented another thousand people at least, who couldn't make the protest in person and that 'warmed (his) heart'.

"Do not despair because there is only a few 100 people here now. All great movements start with just a few 100 people. It was just a few people down the bar at Stonewall. This month for the first time, 54% of the American public said that gay marriage should be legal. That took too long. This has to happen sooner. Amen."

Stonewall was a bar in New York City. The resistance of some of its patrons, after a police raid in 1969, is largely credited with kick-starting the Gay Civil Rights movement.

Michael Moore: "Our Power Is Derived From the People."

Michael Moore then talked about how only four hundred people owned the vast majority of the wealth in America and that made them vastly out-numbered by the rest of the population. "What we have to do here is realise how much more power we have than they have. They think power is derived from bank accounts, but our power is derived from the people. All the people, not 400 people."

The protesters started a chant of 'Michael Moore! Michael Moore!' But he silenced them with a shaking of his hands, saying, "No, no, no, no."

That's when he told them that they would be remembered as the people who started this movement. The atmosphere was electric, even felt as a Livestream witness through a shaky camera feed. The applause, when it came, was deafening. your social media marketing partner


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+75 # Mouna 2011-09-27 10:34
My tears of joy after reading of Michael's words have opened the
held back grief I've felt at what has happened to my beloved
country. I'll shed my tears and release the joy and gratitude I
feel for those who are standing on Wall Street in my place. I will
dedicate my life to assisting, in whatever way I can, the healing
of this nation's ills. So be it!
+55 # giraffee2012 2011-09-27 10:53
Feels like a reality might come true. Not Congress, the Supremes, any cop, etc will enforce the law -- but the people CAN/WILL make the criminals pay - and pay with what is dearest to them = their $$$$. We've cried "too big to fail (or jail)" but we don't want them in jail -- we really want OUR MONEY BACK and that is what is dearest to the hearts of the gangsters on Wall Street. Michael Moore can and will keep this going until those who are responsible (CONGRESS, W.H., etc) will have to act or themselves be "out of a job".

Nobody can self-regulate -- what a stupid idea we (the people) are being fed about Wall Street (i.e. called banks). We're starting to wake up.

We have the POWER of the vote -- goodbye to the supporters of the TP/GOP and the TP/GOP and hello Michael Moore and all the brave people who have shown up to show Wall Street "WE KNOW" and we will prevail.

Just be sure to vote 2012 and bring all you can find to also vote. The POWER of the vote is still ours
+29 # Observer 47 2011-09-27 11:29
Ah, but when the elections are rigged---and those in this country most definitely ARE---votes mean nothing. We saw that in Ohio in 2004.
+20 # Vardette 2011-09-27 12:34
We don't need pessimists. We need determination, we need persistance and we need to give Obama another chance and not submit to the party of no jobs, no entitlements, no unemployment benefits, no healthcare, no Pell grants, no clean air. As Waxman said this is the most anti- environmental congress in our history! Obama is getting us out of Iraq and Afghanistan. We knew he was new to the game when he started but non of us want what the people of Wisconsin have. A TP nation!
+1 # Lolanne 2011-09-29 10:50
Quoting Coriander:
We don't need pessimists. We need determination, we need persistance and we need to give Obama another chance and not submit to the party of no jobs, no entitlements, no unemployment benefits, no healthcare, no Pell grants, no clean air. As Waxman said this is the most anti- environmental congress in our history! Obama is getting us out of Iraq and Afghanistan. We knew he was new to the game when he started but non of us want what the people of Wisconsin have. A TP nation!

I don't think Observer 47 was being pessimistic -- rather realistic. Elections HAVE been stolen, at least since 2000. We would not have suffered under 8 yrs of bush hell otherwise. Wht we have to do is find a way somehow to get the money and the crooks out of our election process. I wish I knew how to do that.
+51 # NanFan 2011-09-27 11:32
Vote is good, but....bring down the Spielbergs, the Alec Baldwins, the Robert Redfords, the moguls of Hollywood who are liberal thinkers and have THEM stand in front of this crowd, this Wall Street, and be as brave and honest and fearlessly speaking as Michael Moore and all the protesters.

It's time to bring out the big guns who the NYPD will REFUSE to arrest and who speak for the few 1,000+ who are on the front lines at Wall Street.

Democracy thieves are rampant since Bush/Cheney and before, and they must be bounced! The sycophant congresspeople who refuse to stand up in the name of the people, instead of the name of the money must BE THROWN OUT in 2012.

Stand tall. I am!

+13 # KittatinyHawk 2011-09-27 12:16
Robert Redford has just thrown himself against the Oil companies,,,rea d up
Are you there? Have you started any local movement. There is another coming up Oct 6 in DC...Enough is Enough AFL. Did you know protesters in other States like Pa are being denied permits? (Portland Cement)

Start looking outside the box, if this is all you read, that is a problem
+29 # NanFan 2011-09-27 12:55
No, this is not all I read, nor should anyone. I know what Redford has recently and always done. I read everything I can, and if I could, I'd be in any trench that the correct-thinkin g Americans will work from to right the wrongs. I cannot...that's my problem, not yours or anyone else's but it's real, and all I can do is blog, respond, and call forward to those who have a podium, and the ability to speak out in a large way, like Michael Moore did and always does, and I will support them forever.

I lived through the tear-gas protests against Vietnam; I shouted with the Berkeley students who fought for free speech, and more.

Outside the box? Been there forever, and still am. Let's not do this in-fighting, ever. We will fail, if we do.


+20 # Virginia 2011-09-27 11:06
Taxes? We don't need no stinkin' taxes... We need to regulate the hell out of them, seize their under capitalized banks, cut off and abolish the Federal Reserve (their money printing machine), revoke their patents and trademarks, indict them for fraud, seize and recover their off shore accounts.... And that's just for starters.

But first we'll need to get the money (campaign and bribery) addicted politicians out of office and change a few rules... Like limit campaign spending, donations, make term limits (2 terms for House & Senate).

It's an election year - any politician (Democrat or Republican) not willing to discuss these terms - mark them off your list and find someone new to run agaisnt them.
+18 # Virginia 2011-09-27 11:54
FYI - the "tax" issue is just a smoke screen. They've done a lot worse offenses than not paying enough taxes. You hear about the tax issue on the national media because they want you to - but you didn't see OccupyWallStree t.Think about it - they control the media to the detriment of America and that's a lot worse than not paying enough taxes. They use the tax issue to distract... Sure they should pay but we need other remedies as well.
+16 # KittatinyHawk 2011-09-27 12:21
Santorum and the Super 12 Committee want to stop the Companies who left USA from paying taxes. Saying that they will reinvest in USA if we do.
Liars, they have destroyed families now good ole Rick whose pockets are deep want us to give them more. Tax them all for leaving the USA, Evict them all to live in Asia...we do not want these mooches here.
+34 # angelfish 2011-09-27 11:17
As EVER, Michael, you are the glue that holds us ALL together! We, the People, must NOT let "them" continue in their rape and pillage of our People, our Treasury and our Constitution! You are so right about there being a THOUSAND for every ONE protester in Liberty Square. Our name is LEGION and we will fight them tooth and nail until our Country is, once again, a DEMOCRACY! May God continue to bless you Michale and the, once GREAT, United States of America!
+53 # MEBrowning 2011-09-27 11:20
Count me among the thousands who are unable to go to New York and join the protest in person, but who support those who are there with all my heart and soul.
-3 # KittatinyHawk 2011-09-27 12:22
You can start a local excuses. Excuses are what got us here in first place. Let some one else do it...we are doing it, everyone else gets to ride the train..sound a lot like TP/GOP
+20 # NanFan 2011-09-27 13:01
Stop with your recriminations, KittatinyHawk. There are some who have NO ability to do more than be behind a computer, and they are doing a pretty darn good job of speaking out, voting, and trying their hardest to help. They are part of the 99% who are either poor, impaired, or otherwise incapable of doing more.

Be well and chill...we do the best we can as humans who have compassion.

+6 # Capn Canard 2011-09-27 15:46
KittatinyHawk, not everyone is going to be as able or even as good as you ... if only we all had that luxury.
+4 # Lolanne 2011-09-29 10:55
Quoting KittatinyHawk:
You can start a local excuses. Excuses are what got us here in first place. Let some one else do it...we are doing it, everyone else gets to ride the train..sound a lot like TP/GOP

Don't be so judgmental. You have no way of knowing anybody else's circumstances. We all must do what we can, and that's all any of us can do. We don't need anybody else telling us we are making excuses.
+12 # DPM 2011-09-27 11:26
Down with tyranny! Up the Rebels!
+30 # DLT888 2011-09-27 11:28
It's inevitable. THE PEOPLE WILL WIN. There may be a lot of blood and bruises between then and now, but the ball is rolling and gaining momentum. It cannot be stopped with batons, arrests, pepper sprays, or the like because others will take their place just as they did during the marches led by Gandhi.
-11 # hotepk 2011-09-27 11:44
Round up the head honchos of the Fed and Wall Street bankers, march them to the top of the Empire State Building and then THROW THEM OFF ONE BY ONE...
+7 # John Locke 2011-09-27 12:26
I am not advocating a revolution but some are advocating bringing back the guillitine! it appears to be the sanario let the 99% eat cake...I want my bread back... this movement needs its heros and martyrs... Michael Moore is one of the movements heros...the movement needs others, and we are having martyrs now, those arrested, every arrest brings attention and more support to the movement...
+2 # Capn Canard 2011-09-27 15:52
hotepk, I like your energy and agree with the emotion. As an Anarchist it warms my heart to hear such sentiments, but I suggest that we wait to see if their reactions become hopelessly mired in violent rhetoric before we advocate or use violence ourselves, though I do FEEL as betrayed as you do.
+18 # universlman 2011-09-27 11:47
nothing has worked - even having a president who speaks our language has had little effect stopping the slide - even the press is missing it - Moore gets it -
now is the time and this is the place to make a stand
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2011-09-27 12:25
Moore got it 12 years ago and warned one cared, stuff was more important.
Nothing has worked, I do not believe my group believe that but then we do things. Wisconsin People do not believe it, only TP/GOP believe it and spread the pessimism bs...boring
+7 # Capn Canard 2011-09-27 15:57
I object to your assessment... many of us cared, protested, wrote letters, made phone calls, knocked on doors and YES it takes a while to teach that hundredth monkey to resist. I sugest that it is a problem of basic awareness. BTW it started in places like Wisconsin.
+24 # MAGICSUFI 2011-09-27 11:47
its going to be a long will require patience tenacity and intelligence... we need people like michael moore and robert redford and many other notables..STAY THE COURSE
+23 # Vardette 2011-09-27 11:52
+18 # jooberdoober 2011-09-27 12:02
Viva la peaceful revolution!
-47 # Robt Eagle 2011-09-27 12:04
"Tax the rich!" So if you received an A on a test that you studied hard for and there were some in class who didn't study at all and got a D, you would be ok with everyone in your class (including you) receiving a B-, so it would be fair. On the next test, since you worked hard last time and had to share with the less fortunate, would you study as hard? No, so the average for the class on the 2nd test would be C. Take away incentive and rewards and everyone suffers. Give everyone the opportunity to succeed and some will be top performers and some will be less than mediocre. That is life in the US, but the opportunity to achieve great success is inspiring. Take that away and all will suffer. Spend frivilously and for all with no stopping waste and bad performance, and the results are, well we see the results of Obama's policies right now: high unemployment, fraud, Chicago style polictics, etc. Wall Street isn't to blame for people accepting mortgages they could ill afford to pay back. Personal responsibility is needed to get America back to greatness, with some suffering for the ills of those who thought they could beat the system. Go after Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd who encourage Fannie Mae and set up Wall Street to use bad loans. Put Frank and Dodd in jail along with officers of Fannie Mae...for a start.
+29 # conniejo 2011-09-27 13:36
You're comparing apples and oranges, a typical tactic for those who want to obfuscate real issues. The person who received a "D" did not contribute anything to help the person with an "A," so there is no reason to "share" the A grade. This isn't about taking away incentives and rewards. It is about taking some of what the rich are able earn because they live in a country that supports individual initiative, a country for which all of us pay. If you haven't heard Elizabeth Warren speak on this issue, you should check out her comments, part of which I'll paraphrase here. So you built a factory and made a lot of money. Good for you. But remember that the goods you produced were moved to markets on highways and across bridges for which we all paid. The people you have running your factory were educated in schools that we all supported. Your factory is protected by police and firefighters whose salaries we all pay. No one is asking you to give up what you've earned from your own efforts, only that you recognize you could not have achieved what you did without the support of average taxpayers. So pass along some of those earnings to help other achieve as well. A billionaire who pays even 50% in taxes (and at one time it was much higher) on 1 billion in earnings still has over $500,000,000 on which to live. (Tax rates would be lower on the first million or so.) Isn't that enough?
+9 # CL38 2011-09-27 18:50

It isn't Obama's policies that create the high unemployment, the financial meltdown or the disgusting greed of the rich and corporations.

It was the RIGHT! If you defend them and pass on their lies, you are part of the Nazi right.
+4 # bluebluesdancer 2011-09-27 22:15
As someone pointed out, if you get rid of govt. you might as well go back to the stone age. As compassionate Human Beings (Compassion being one of the main things that sets us apart from the animals)it is our duty to create an environment that nurtures growth and independence while at the same time making sure that those that are less fortunate do not end-up dying of starvation and neglect under the town bridge. Our system is less than perfect, and there are many that 'ride' it, but there are many more that truly need it, and others that just need it for a while until they can pull themselves out of the mire.Medicare was initially designed to include more and more people each 10 years after inception so that eventually everyone would have been included in a Universal Healthcare plan, Lincoln was shot while he was trying to instigate a 'debt-less' financial system that would have allowed us to pay for what we need WITHOUT any taxes. JFK was trying to do the same thing when he got shot. But the Oligarchs - the bankers - the wealthiest of the wealthy - cannot allow the financial system to change even though what we have now is totally illegal. (How many of you knew that the Federal Reserve Bank is not American? It is a private business! We let them print money for us and then we pay them 'interest' for doing it!(for doing what, exactly? Nothing!, that's what!)
+28 # raphaelschild 2011-09-27 12:04
Michael was right....for every person standing on that street right now, there are hundreds of us behind them in spirit and in deed. The anonymous ones stand prepared to asssist in any way possible. Stay tuned....
+10 # KittatinyHawk 2011-09-27 12:27
Great show Up. Hoping some of the others do also. Baldwin should have been there.

More areas are getting involved but as you see here and many other blogs, the regulars have notes from their ? that they cannot get involved. Hope to see you in DC.
+7 # David Starr 2011-09-27 13:04
Michael Moore continues to carry on. Nice. And so do the Wall St protesters. Even more nice. Despite the current "darkness," Left/Progressiv e struggles on various fronts will go on; they have to. While constructive criticisms of this movement help, it can do w/o cynicism & defeatism. Generally, like other movements, it's neccessary to learn from past errors, to refine & improve, but w/o compromising basic foundational principles. Since we have in essence an overlapping competing of ideological objectives at this time, there will be the "setbacks," and e.g., small attendences at demos. But, look, e.g., at the revolution which established the U.S.: Despite antiquated, overglorified cliches about it years after, it started small; there were a core of supporters; just as much, their were those supporting keeping the colonies under the British crown; & there were those who were neutral, simply trying to get by in life. But it eventually gained momentum & preservered, a triumph over monarchy & fuedalism.
-20 # Robt Eagle 2011-09-27 14:26
Conniejo, surely infrastructure, like our interconnected highways and our military (my son and daughter are Naval officers, son is Navy SEAL), police, fire are certainly to be supported by taxes. But what about the folks who make bad choices...shoul d the rest of us bail them out, or pay for their bad decisions? I bought a house well within my means, and a second one (ski house for instructing skiing) also well within my means...8.3 miles from the mountain, not 3 minutes away for an ungodly overpriced amount, which many others did and now can't afford. They were offered a motgage that they could never support, but bought anyway. Why should the rest of us be responsible for their bad choices? Wall Street didn't twist those peoples' arms, they took advantage of a business opportunity. The likes of Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd should be in jail. Frank and Dodd praised Fannie Mae when they knew it was in a really bad situation. How come the directors of Fannie Mae aren't in jail also? They were really worse than Wall Streeters, but who on the left even mentions them? Need to go after the real perps, including the rating agency execs who failed to downgrade Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Read "Reckless Endangerment" by Gretchen Morgenson for the details. They are the ones to be held accountable!
+10 # bluebluesdancer 2011-09-27 22:01
Robt Eagle, and everyone else reading this list; If you haven't already, please take the time to at least skim-thru two books: #1) "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein (which shows that whatever happens, we have to be on our guard as we 'reconstruct' to make sure that it is for our good and not theirs) and
#2) "Web of Debt", which really shows who has caused, and is causing, all of this.
Without knowing this information so many of us end-up pointing fingers at people who, although despicable, were just the 'grunts', and we have bigger fish to fry, guys!
+5 # michelle 2011-09-27 22:57
I would add The Predator State by Galbraith and for a look at Wall Street, Liquidated: An Ethnography of Wall Street by Karen Ho.
+5 # Ken Hall 2011-09-28 06:20
RE: Same old drivel that ignores fact in favor of ideology. You must get your talking points from the RNC and pass them along without checking their validity or factuality. The sorry state of the US has been brought about by voters like you who don't take the time and make the effort to inform themselves. I've heard that total mortgage debt in the US before meltdown was around $7T (that may be only subprime debt but as I remember, it was total debt). Please tell us, then, how the FM's are responsible for the $400-600T that tanked the US and world economies?
0 # propsguy 2011-10-01 20:21
so what about Wall Street's bad choices? they choose to gamble and speculate and when the whole thing collapsed, they came running to us to bail them out with our tax dollars and our childrens' tax dollars. why is that ok? why do you call it welfare when a poor person gets a few cents but not when an already obscenely wealthy person gets a billion dollar handout?
+8 # Tteache 2011-09-27 17:15
We DO have the power. We must continue to educate and get involved! I'm so proud of everyone taking part in this important and historic movement!
+12 # reiverpacific 2011-09-27 17:31
There's a difference between being "Rich" and beyond rich to excess and greed at the expense of all and everybody else.
Hell, I've had my ups and downs and am fiercely independent but it was the actions of the greed-mongers that whipped a decent, comfortable lifestyle, made with my own work as an entrepreneur (defined as "one who assumes the risk of business"), out of my reach seemingly forever through no fault of my own, and if not for S.S. (and I hate to admit this, believe me!) my wife and I would be begging for crusts on the street whilst trying to build back a scrap of the businesses we had before the crash and nosedive NOT OF OUR OWN MAKING!
The only Billionaire I ever knew, the late Bill "Jeep" Daniels had the best attitude to what he describes as his "luck and good fortune" in stating that "It was great fun making all that money but it was even better fun sharing it out" (with those less fortunate.
We can't all be Empire-Builders s y'know but everybody is entitled to basic food, shelter, meidcal care and dignity.
Such an example we don't see much, Warren Buffet notwithstanding .
+7 # Activista 2011-09-27 21:11
Michael Moore character, courage, and perspective on America makes me optimistic.
Imagine - Michael Moore ideas in government - for the people, by the people ...
+8 # GEF 2011-09-27 23:36
overpriced amount, which many others did and now can't afford. They were offered a motgage that they could never support, but bought anyway. Why should the rest of us be responsible for their bad choices? Wall Street didn't twist those peoples' arms, they took advantage of a business opportunity. Robt Eagle: The people who bought houses like this have been foreclosed by the million. And haven't you heard that Wall Street did twist some people's arms by lying them into mortgages that they couldn't afford? The banks who made these mortgages sold them to investors, including other banks. Why didn't they hold the mortgages? Because they were bad and the issuers knew it! But the issuers haven't suffered. The banks and investors who bought the dodgy mortgages, and the brokers who made the deals, are laughing ...all the way to the (bailed-out) bank, while the foreclosed are in the street.
+8 # R U Kidding Me? 2011-09-28 02:11
Every word spoken by Moore is right on the money. He has been echoing the same sentiment since the Roger and Me debut.All great movements do start with a cause, and this is a JUST reason to protest and a JUST cause! Student debts should be forgiven! Compared what Wall Street has been forgiven? It's a drop in the proverbial ocean! How desperate does a situation have to get before it attracts the medias attention, eventually the countries attention and ultimately the world's attention? The momentum has begun and you guys started the movement...God Bless You one and all. It will spread and all will listen. We are the majority not the corporations or the 400 multi-millionai res Moore spoke of. We will win in the end...this is only the beginning!!!
-19 # Robt Eagle 2011-09-28 13:29
You are all being duped by Moore, he is a multi-millionai re because people want to believe his drivel, although it is flawed and untruthful. You folks really need to get jobs and work hard to appreciate what you deserve...not just live on freebies from the rest of us hard working tax PAYERS!!!
+4 # Activista 2011-09-28 19:19
Tax payers are supporting profit making wars - one soldier in Afghanistan costs $1 million per year.
War - and people supporting or living from wars are destroying USA.
+5 # conniejo 2011-09-29 12:25
Please supply examples of things Michael Moore has said that are "flawed and untruthful." I don't know about anyone else, but I am trying to find a reliable reporting medium so I can hear the truth. I'm willing to listen to anyone who can back up her/his claims with facts.
-10 # Robt Eagle 2011-09-28 19:21
GEF, NO ONE MADE people buys homes they could not afford. They were looking for something too good to be true. So why now should the government bail them out? Why should my hard earned tax dollars go to help someone who made a bad decision? By the way, there are plenty of rich folks who also got caught up in the mortgage routine and they also deserve to fail for their bad decisions and NOT be bailed out by tax payers. Why isn't anyone responsible for their actions any longer?
+7 # Activista 2011-09-28 22:21
"Why should my hard earned tax dollars go to help someone who made a bad decision?"
$trillions wasted, millions killed in USRaeli wars: Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen ..
0 # propsguy 2011-10-01 20:25
lots of people bought homes that they could afford because they had jobs. then they lost their jobs through no fault of their own, because the CEO of their company might make a few million more for himself if he sent their jobs to china.
when a few people lose their homes to foreclosure, you can say that they made foolish choices and call for individual responsibility. when it happens to millions, you must look beyond individuals to see what structural conditions are causing this
-10 # Robt Eagle 2011-09-29 12:34
Activista, you are free to write what you want because we are involved in those countries. Remember when planes flew into the WTC and the Pentagon? I have two children who are officers in the Navy, my oldest a SEAL. You think that money is wasted...not spending it would mean your demise here in America. We need a strong military and MUST go after the bad guys or they will come to our shores as they have already demonstrated with the loss of lives on 9/11/2001.
+1 # propsguy 2011-10-01 20:28
if we would just stay out of other people's affairs, they might stay out of ours. assuming the 9/11 attacks were done by terrorists, the policies of this nation to their nations made them hate us. sadly innocent people died, but our government has been killing their innocents for decades. what goes around...

we do not need such a strong defense or we would not if we were not found so offensive by the rest of the world
+2 # JoanWile2 2011-09-29 15:34

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+1 # Blast Dorrough 2011-09-30 13:05
The Corporatecrafte rs and the greedy wealthy have yet to earn a single dollar that wasn't tainted by corruption and illegal government welfare checks in the billions. Not to mention their bonus "bailouts" in the trillions, which is, in effect, stolen wealth by designed organized crime sponsored on taxpayer funds, thanks to their corruption of congressional and Supreme Court hirelings. The Corporatecrafte rs got a great return on their investments in bribes in sabotage of our constitutional Republic. It is a waste of time and energy to discuss this fact with the blind ignorant.

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