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Excerpt: "An early Crossroads ad claims Warren 'sides with extreme left protests' in the Occupy Wall Street movement, which supports 'radical redistribution of wealth.' Now, the group charges that Warren oversaw a TARP program that 'bail[ed] out the same banks that caused the financial meltdown.' Warren released a Web advertisement Friday calling the charge 'ridiculous.' 'I've spent years standing up to Wall Street and big banks,' she said. 'No attack ad, and certainly not one from Karl Rove and Wall Street, will change that.'"

Elizabeth Warren gestures during a forum at Stonehill College in Easton, Massachusetts, 12/06/11. (photo: Gary Higgins/Quincy Patriot Ledger/AP)
Elizabeth Warren gestures during a forum at Stonehill College in Easton, Massachusetts, 12/06/11. (photo: Gary Higgins/Quincy Patriot Ledger/AP)

Elizabeth Warren Fires Back at Karl Rove Ad

By Michael A. Memoli, Los Angeles Times

11 December 11


lizabeth Warren, the consumer advocate-turned-Massachusetts Senate candidate, is fighting back after a new ad from an independent group founded by Karl Rove accuses her of being too close to big business.

Warren has emerged as an early target of Rove's Crossroads GPS, which plans to be active in the 2012 races for House and Senate, as it was in the 2010 midterm elections. Warren is the likely Democratic candidate to face incumbent Republican Sen. Scott Brown, who won the seat once held by Edward M. Kennedy in a 2010 special election.

An early Crossroads ad claims Warren "sides with extreme left protests" in the Occupy Wall Street movement, which supports "radical redistribution of wealth." Now, the group charges that Warren oversaw a TARP program that "bail[ed] out the same banks that caused the financial meltdown."

Warren released a Web advertisement Friday calling the charge "ridiculous."

"I've spent years standing up to Wall Street and big banks," she said. "No attack ad, and certainly not one from Karl Rove and Wall Street, will change that."

The Massachusetts race could be one of the marquee contests in the battle for control of the Senate, now held narrowly by Democrats. It represents one of the few opportunities for Democrats to pick up a Republican-held seat; the party is defending 23 of its own.

A new poll this week conducted by the University of Massachusetts for the Boston Herald showed Warren leading Brown 49% to 42%. Brown had led Warren 41% to 38% in the university's September survey. your social media marketing partner


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+256 # CL38 2011-12-11 11:48
The slash and burn tactics Republicans have used for 30+ years to destroy political competitors are not going to work with Elizabeth Warren.

Warren is well known, admired and respected in Massachusetts. Rove is also known -- for his viscous, unethical, deceitful attacks. He goes after an opponents strengths and discredits them.
Remember John Kerry's medals and military service being attacked by the "Swift Board" crew? Meanwhile, Bush, who bailed on his military service was presented as a leader. We saw where that led.

We have Elizabeth's back. I have no doubt that she'll replace the Wall Street owned Scott Brown, Rove be damned!

His days of controlling our country are over along with his Idiotocracy cronies.
+68 # X Dane 2011-12-11 17:21
[quote name="CL38"]The slash and burn tactics Republicans have used for 30+ years to destroy political competitors are not going to work with Elizabeth Warren.

Unfortunately, it COULD.... IF we let down our guard. You correctly pointed out the "swift-boating of Kerry. He was effectively finished after that......... BECAUSE HE DIDN'T RESPOND IMMEDIATELY.

He didn't realize the danger he was in till it was too late.
I think Elisabeth Warren is fully aware of that, and she DOES respond RIGHT AWAY.

That is great, but it also means that we MUST make certain, she has the means to do so.
She is not just good for Massachussetts.
She has become a SYMBOL for all of us (thinking people) and Rove and the other creeps would love to finish her off.

Do not underestimate the influence of Fox and the ignorance of a great many Fox viewers.
Also there is an entire YEAR till the election. It is MUCH to early to rejoyce over polls.
+46 # vitobonespur 2011-12-11 20:12
good POINT! I really LIKE Ms. Warren AND think SHE could ONE day BE president.
+30 # Progressive Patriot 2011-12-11 20:48
I'd rather vote for her for president than Obama. Obviously, there's nobody on the TeaTHUG side of the coin to vote for. I'm seriously looking for a Progressive candidate.
-27 # dquandle 2011-12-11 23:13
The difference is, John Kerry is a mega millionaire lying corporate war monger has been, who deserved to lose, running an I-can-out-repub lican-thou campaign, while Warren sounds like a human being.
+28 # chick 2011-12-12 04:35
Dquandle, So Kerry deserved to lose and look who we got in return.

The Devil in disguize who ruined our country and will take years to get us out of this hole.

Kerry, a war monger? You really do not know your history. It was Bush who was a war monger who did not fight for his country. Kerry did, saved lives in the war, of course if you believed in those Swift boat adds of Rove then I know where you stand and it is with the Repugs. And by the way it is his wife who is the mega millionaire he just married into it.
+4 # jerryball 2011-12-13 12:22
What election are you talking about and what world are you from? Your opinion is absolute nonsense. I think you have identities mixed up. Your comparison sounds more like Bush, the war mongering millionnaire who screwed us all.
+164 # Barbara K 2011-12-11 11:52
Go Elizabeth! With the people behind you will not fail no matter how many lies and garbage the likes of Rove throw at you. Their lies and attack ads are a thing of the past. We don't believe the lying bunch of bullies any more. Go get them, girl! You are better than the entire lot of them put together.

+76 # fredboy 2011-12-11 12:06
I just wish someone with courage had fired back at Joseph Goebbels.
+20 # Glen 2011-12-11 12:58
Yeah, except they would have died.
+21 # DurangoKid 2011-12-11 13:17
The Nazi party was constantly ridiculed by the foreign press. The Nazis new about it, hated it, but could do nothing about it. Fortunately, when the foreign press lampoons US politics, it's big news here. Well, maybe not.
+12 # redjelly39 2011-12-11 14:16
They tried a few times to take out Hitler but failed. Many knew he was insane & were embarrassed at what he had done to Germany & the World. Opportunities were scarce with such tight security. A few top SS were secretly wanting him gone but they did not have the courage to stand up either, trying to secretly support an assassination - only to deny it and accuse others when attempts failed.
+9 # Progressive Patriot 2011-12-11 20:50
Not big enough. There are _many_ stories I read in the foreign press that _never_ are told by the American press.
+8 # X Dane 2011-12-11 22:14
Fredboy, no disrespect, but that reminded me of what ny mom used to say
when I talked about wishing.
She said: Wish in one hand, and spit in the other and se what you've got most in!

We have REAL MONSTERS to fight we can't afford to wish
+160 # Guy 2011-12-11 12:23
God speed Elizabeth.Bring some integrity back into government.You are a breath of fresh air to the broken system of present governmental affairs.
+87 # Tippitc 2011-12-11 12:47
Elizabeth Warren must be quite an athlete - one minute she "sides with extreme left protests" and then leaps a very tall fence in a single bound and "oversaw a TARP program". WOW!!
Karl Rove is a prime example of the lack of ethics and humanity of the repugnants. My advice to Rove and his buddies - make sure your lies are all pointing in the same direction before you spread your brand of political propaganda!!
+90 # Lolanne 2011-12-11 12:56
Go get 'em, Elizabeth! The people have your back, and we all know what a lying, low-down, slimy SOB Rove is. You make me wish I still lived in Massachusetts so I could vote for you!
+102 # Bill Clements 2011-12-11 13:02
Rove's "tactics," a misnomer for what he does, are clearly desperate attempts to defeat a formidible candidate that he knows holds the upper hand against Scott Brown. Since neither he nor Brown have the capacity to seriously and intelligently engage Warren on the issues, their only option is to lie about who she is and what she stands for. Pathetic.

Bush's little term of endearment for Rove, "turd," certainly is apropos.
+72 # Janice 2011-12-11 13:14
Keep up the good work Elizabeth. My old state of Massachusetts knows better than to re elect Scott Brown. You are by far the best candidate. The only reason Brown is in office is because Martha Coakley did not campaign. She gave it to him. You will get it back. God speed.
+103 # bobert1041 2011-12-11 13:28
Karl Rove is a cynical, despicable, lying pig. The audacity of his comments takes my breath away. He of course is relying on the short memory span of the average American voter who has forgotten just who in hell it was who 'lead' this country to the brink of ruin.
+37 # redjelly39 2011-12-11 14:44
Yes & No - he is relying on the 30% of Faux Newz watchers that believe everything he says with hopes of swaying a few others to tip the scales. Most Faux Newz watchers already believe that Obama is to blame for the shambles Dumbya left in his wake. They somehow have the ability to leap time and blame people who are not even involved yet while ignoring the debacle as it unfolds right before their eyes. Republicans in general have that rationalization characteristic that allows them to blame the left when they aren't even involved. The movie "Idiocracy" tells the story and where we are all headed. Today - I am sick to my stomach how far this country has fallen and Occupy will be our countries greatest victory or its complete collapse when We the People become nothing more than slave labor.
+35 # antineocon 2011-12-11 15:08
Quoting bobert1041:
Karl Rove is a cynical, despicable, lying pig. The audacity of his comments takes my breath away. He of course is relying on the short memory span of the average American voter who has forgotten just who in hell it was who 'lead' this country to the brink of ruin.

+91 # redjelly39 2011-12-11 13:29
Ann Richards was beloved by Texans but when called a drunk & a lesbian - her mistake was being so in shock of the blatant lies, she hesitated with a response and that was her downfall.
When Rove advised on George W. Bush's 1994 race for governor of Texas against Democratic incumbent Ann Richards, a persistent whisper campaign in conservative East Texas wrongly suggested that Richards was a lesbian. According to Texas journalist Lou Dubose: "No one ever traced the character assassination to Rove. Yet no one doubts that Rove was behind it. It's a process on which he holds a patent. Identify your opponent's strength, and attack it so relentlessly that it becomes a liability. Richards was admired because she promised and delivered a 'government that looked more like the people of the state.' That included the appointment of blacks, Hispanics and gays and lesbians. Rove made that asset a liability."

Read more:

Keep Fighting the good fight Elizabeth !!!
+67 # neddycat 2011-12-11 13:31
I don't have much money to contribute, but what I have will go to ensure Elizabeth Warren is elected. It'd just be wasted in Texas, where I unfortunately live, anyway.
+7 # Lolanne 2011-12-11 22:46
Quoting neddycat:
I don't have much money to contribute, but what I have will go to ensure Elizabeth Warren is elected. It'd just be wasted in Texas, where I unfortunately live, anyway.

I know how you feel, neddycat -- I live in TX too. You're right -- donating to a decent candidate's campaign here would be wasting money.
+39 # jwb110 2011-12-11 13:46
Karl Rove and his ilk had better come to understand that galvanizing 1% will not create enough votes for the coming elections.
The GOP strategy of keeping the nation unemployed in roder to win the next White House didn't take into consideration how it feels to be hungry and sleepless because there is a never ending barrage of bill collectors and unpaid debt staring at the greater American public. Rove and his boys have reached a tipping point and don't even know it. The arrogance of thinking they they "own" the country has blinded them. It is the "Ends justify the means" generation no better than the old Soviet Union in their lust for Tsarism with a different name.
At this point , even if the GOP/TP try for a military coup to take over the country it is too late. This is a very big nation and there are a lot of people init who are not addicted to their BMWs and Stock Portfolios. The nation has gotten leaner and meaner and more ready to take back what has always been theirs to begin with.
Elizabeth Warren is the clarion call!!! Her ovaries are lot bigger than Roves old queenie balls.
+18 # StPete 2011-12-11 13:58
People in Mass should know they didn't elect Scott Brown. Not really... check out mathematician Richard Charnin's stats and Mark Crispin Miller's analysis on that race. Google either of these guys and search accordingly.
+34 # km0591 2011-12-11 14:10
Karl Rove again. Why doesn't that poisonous toad stay under the rock he lives in?
+37 # EastFallsBill 2011-12-11 14:21
Rove's lies will lead me to double my contribution to Elizabeth Warren, and I don't even live in MA. You're fighting for all of us, Ms. Warren, and we appfreciate it. And Karl, keep it up, until everyone realizes how outrageous you are.
+39 # Nell H 2011-12-11 14:27
I live in South Carolina. I will send my $$ to Elizabeth Warren. She is honest.
+26 # goodsensecynic 2011-12-11 14:28
Just to offer a comparative perspective. In Canada, the far-right in power is represented by Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Of course, Canada's far right is about the equivalent of Barack Obama on a bad day ... I digress. For a long time, Harper's brain was Tom Flanagan, who was wholly discredited when he blurted out: What we say needn't be true, just plausible.

In the USA, alas, it is increasingly possible to say things that are venal and stupid at the same time, and not just "get away with it," but achieve political victory.

Don't feel bad, though, for bereft of principled politicians, the rest of the world isn't far behind in the descent.

Looking south, I wish Ms. Warren the best. Her victory wouldn't be much but it would be something ... and a hint of the long-delayed "change we can believe in."
+29 # bugbuster 2011-12-11 14:29
I'm glad to see that Warren has the right instincts. They way to deal with these mudslingers is to sling it right back until you bury them in their own filth.
+42 # klondikekitty 2011-12-11 15:40
Karl Rove is one of the most despicable excuses for a human being I have ever encountered, and I pray for the day I will have the opportunity to tell him so to his face . . . He has done more to destroy this country's economics and morals than any other U.S. citizen, alive or dead! You ROCK, Elizabeth!! As one of my very good friends puts it, "Don't let the bastards get ya down!"
+11 # Donald 2011-12-11 18:15
To KLONDIKEKITTY: Sorry to correct you dear, or possibly your friend. Its "NON BASTORUM CARBORUNDUM". Translates roughly to the same meaning or to "DONT LET THE BASTARDS 'GRIND' YOU DOWN" and I know its not really a latin translation, but it sounds good.
Why is everyone preaching to the choir about pondscum Rove. Every intelligent person knows the truth about this slimy snake (my apologies to the reptile species). Why not try to find a way to eliminate (legally) this aboration. Any constructive ideas? Anyone? But I digress. We must get back that Mass. Senate seat and Elizabeth seems the best candidate to do that. I guess public advertising is currently the best way to accomplish it (although I strongly believe we must get the money out of politics) and so I will donate.
+31 # pernsey 2011-12-11 15:46
Karl Rove and the Greedy One Percent, are just making stuff up to see what will stick. These slime ball politics are his forte.

Elizabeth you go girl, everyone but a few misguided right wing nut jobs know that its not true.

+42 # artic fox 2011-12-11 15:53
This is what Elizabeth Warren has been fighting:
Per article by Professor Edmund Pries in (Toronto)Star 8-12-2011
here's an excerpt:

During the Reagan era, a friend and former colleague, a professor of American history, was invited to the deliberations of a Washington think-tank that provided policy direction for the Republican Party. As they discussed growing the debt and increasing the deficit, he was flabbergasted: “Are you not the party of balanced budgets and debt elimination?” The reply was unequivocal, “Our goal is to grow the deficit as much as possible in order to create political space to eliminate government-fund ed programming. Until then, we want high deficits while lobbying for a balanced budget — and promoting social program cuts as the only solution.”

To create this useful deficit, tax cuts to wealthy individuals and corporate sectors would be dramatically increased, especially to the banking, energy and military segments. In short, one would implement a transfer of the state’s revenue supply obligations from the wealthiest to the poor and middle classes in order to permit an even greater transfer of wealth from the middle classes to the rich thereafter.

The only trick was to convince the poor and middle classes to “buy in” via a mixture of patriotism and structural necessity so that they would vote in favour of cutting the very programs that benefitted them.
+34 # X Dane 2011-12-11 16:42
Yep arctic fox. Grover Norquist, the other republican slimebag said: We want to shrink the government, til it fits in a bathtub......AN D THEN WE WILL FLUSH IT DOWN THE DRAIN.

We have to realize what we are up against and act accordingly.

+29 # bugbuster 2011-12-11 15:56
Anything that smacks of "fairness" is "radical" to an aristocrat.
0 # Michael_K 2011-12-11 17:20
Quoting bugbuster:
Anything that smacks of "fairness" is "radical" to an aristocrat.

If you are this ignorant, you had better hold your tongue! Rove is no aristocrat! He's just a wannabe plutocrat. Aristocrats are bred and educated with the ever present obligation of "noblesse oblige"
+6 # historywriter 2011-12-11 20:56
I think you are understanding this 180 degrees off. He is not saying R is an aristocrat. He's mocking the right for thinking fairness (and facts)are radical--probab ly socialist and commnunist.
+8 # X Dane 2011-12-11 22:37
Michael, whatever money he has,he got from acting as a lackey for the wealthy Bushes and others who pay him to destroy oponents. Basically he is a thug, a hired killer, especially of hope.
+1 # Michael_K 2011-12-14 22:44
Quoting X Dane:
Michael, whatever money he has,he got from acting as a lackey for the wealthy Bushes and others who pay him to destroy oponents. Basically he is a thug, a hired killer, especially of hope.

Which is what I was saying... no honour, no aristocrat.
+8 # goodsensecynic 2011-12-11 17:27
True, but these dolts aren't even authentic "aristocrats" (who at least spoke properly, refrained from public displays of bad taste and could be counted on for some "noblesse oblige" from time to time ... after all, they knew they ultimately depended on the plebs to do the real work).

The current yahoos are merely vile, bourgeois narcissists and cruel tyrants. At least the old "feudalistas" knowingly let a few crumbs fall from the table; these people slurp up the goodies and then crawl on the floor in an effort to ensure that they can lick up the crumbs before the peasants and all others "below the salt" can get to them.
+18 # tunghoy 2011-12-11 16:16
Do I understand correctly that Crossroads launched an ad on TV and Warren responded with an ad on the Web?

That isn't very symmetrical. Even these days, I'll bet (maybe I'll bet Mitt Romney $10 thousand) that the TV ad will get many more eyeballs than the web ad. I hope she puts this on basic cable. And yes, I've donated.
+32 # lin96 2011-12-11 16:31
Anything with Karl Rove's fingerprints on it is poison and has no credibility.
Elizabeth Warren is the REAL DEAL. This woman should be runing for President!
+16 # goodsensecynic 2011-12-11 17:27
Maybe in 2016 ...
+23 # historywriter 2011-12-11 17:13
I was sickened by the attack on Kerry's military service, especially in light of Bush's "war record." If Kerry had only attacked back immediately, it might have made a difference.
I cannot understand why the public buys these lies.
+9 # Nominae 2011-12-11 22:24
@ historywriter

The public "buys these lies" because, as very expensive and time-consuming Madison Avenue Research indicates, the average American is operating at what amounts to a sixth-grade educational level. And that's the *average* American.

That is why so many TV commercials come across as "stupid". Madison Avenue knows their target audience much better than do you and I. If their stuff offends the better educated audience, so what ? The better educated are not the majority market (or the majority voter).
+13 # sharag 2011-12-11 18:51
That's right Elizabeth, Karl Rove is attacking all of us, not just the people of Massachusetts, but all of here in America who just want a normal secure life.
+24 # LAellie33 2011-12-11 20:05
America: DON'T GET ANGRY - GET EVEN! End Rove's reign.
+10 # X Dane 2011-12-11 22:57
LAellie, and Grover Norquist's. These two
are scum, that needs to be cleaned away, to improve the country, While we at it we needs to find out all the Koch's products, and BOYCOT them.
+14 # soularddave 2011-12-11 21:15
If you like Ms Warren, DONATE to her campaign. Even $5 counts as donation, and the sheer number of donors is an extremely relevant statistic that can be used in the campaign.
+8 # oakes721 2011-12-11 21:38
Rove should just KARL UP AND DIE for such treasonous acts (interfering with the U.S. VOTING process). Libel has become a standard for 'leadership'. Accountability is the hidden issue.
+5 # ABen 2011-12-11 21:51
I am certain that Warren bill handily defeat Brown for Kennedy's old Senate seat--in the vernacular, she will be him like a drum!
+9 # hairybearded 2011-12-12 00:08
Rove was "suspected" in the ugly smear campaign in the South Carolina primary campaign when candidate Bush was running against candidate, Sen.McCain, that McCain's adopted daughter was "actually" his real "love-child" with an African-America n woman. The timing didn't allow McCain enough time to effectively counter the vile, racist fear mongering. Nothing matters to Rove but winning and undermining his "enemies list." Like Cheney, he has never forgiven Nixon being brought down by outed criminal acts. Rove and his minions' billion$, will "focus-group" research how to get a message across to those who can be frightened into voting against whomever they target. Essential is the need to get the vote out and use every opportunity to call out Rove lies and challenge every editorial letter in every media forum that parrots Rove style lies, innuendo, and manipulations. We let him and Cheney off from the criminal violations of revealing CIA top-secret status of Valerie Plame. Why; Democrats want to seem more interested in bipartisan collaboration to conduct legislative work only to be road blocked at every effort. What we need desperately is a wealthy, liberal, PAC to create tv ads with actors using actual script from Prof. Edmund Pries article referenced by ArticFox (above, Toronto Star). A way to counter Rove fear mongering is to get those easily swayed to have a greater fear of being duped into buying manipulation marketing and lies against their own best interests.
+12 # Aussieken 2011-12-12 05:58
'During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.'
-6 # badbenski 2011-12-12 10:17
Shame on Rove for trying to attack the sexy old school marm. What was he thinking? She'll eat him for lunch!
+2 # X Dane 2011-12-13 00:41
badbenski, I almost feel sorry for you. You poor sexually repressed republicans that's all you have on the mind.

Professor Warren is not a "sexy old school marm" She is a very bright, intelligent, educated woman. Some stupid male chauvenistic guys can't see that because she is also charming. You are pitiful
+2 # Bill Clements 2011-12-13 10:56
Demeaning and chauvinistic. Does it come naturally to you, or were you trying to be provocative?
+3 # jerryball 2011-12-13 12:26
So, after all, even George Bush called Rove "Turdblossom." That says it all.
+1 # dusty 2011-12-13 21:38
I think progressives should just ignore good'ol Karl.. He has shot his load and now he is just an aging, drooping has been.
+3 # stonecutter 2011-12-14 02:14
If there's a female out there who can be taken seriously as POTUS, after HRC, it's Elizabeth Warren. However, we still know her primarily as a consumer advocate who took alot of crap from some GOP morons in Congress and was then thrown under the bus by Obama in another one of his "compromises" (does the name Lani Guinier ring any bells?); we've yet to hear her views on many other key issues, foreign and domestic. If she turns out to in fact hold the positions I sense, and hope that she does, we're watching the making of a president unfold in her Senate race.

Even I, a lifelong admitted male supremacist, could easily vote for this woman, if she turns out to be the full monte, the real deal; is there a "real deal" left in American politics after the last 30 years, or merely an army of revolving-door lobbyist-drones cloned from Tom DeLay or John Boehner, paying their dues in elective office, "representing the people"? We shall see. It's fitting that she's in MA, the formative turf of not only JFK and RFK, my adolescent heroes, but the American Revolution (Sorry New Hampshire--blam e Bachmann).

Of course, Hillary might still want a bite of that apple in 2016, so that may be very interesting, but for my money, Warren is the truer voice of ordinary citizens, the 99% (I recommend Christopher Hitchens' little-known book about the Clintons, "No One Left to Lie To" to provide more insight into Hillary's carefully cultivated political persona).
+1 # Upgeya 2011-12-14 17:28
"radical redistribution of wealth" is what the ponzi banking system has done to our nation since 1913.

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