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Alvarez reports: "Televangelist and mogul Pat Robertson - a man whose name is practically synonymous with the Religious Right - likely took 700 Club viewers by surprise today when he opined that the Republican base is losing support by 'pushing' what he described as 'an extreme position.'"

Pat Robertson with Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney before Romney delivered the commencement address to the graduating class of Regent University in Virginia Beach, Virginia, 05/05/07. (photo: Gary C. Knapp/AP)
Pat Robertson with Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney before Romney delivered the commencement address to the graduating class of Regent University in Virginia Beach, Virginia, 05/05/07. (photo: Gary C. Knapp/AP)





Pat Robertson: GOP Base Is Becoming Too Extreme

By Alex Alvarez, Mediaite

25 October 11

 

This is no joke. The granddaddy of extreme GOP views has warned the current crop of candidates against adopting extreme GOP views. -- JPS/RSN

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyQ7LaaZsds

 

elevangelist and mogul Pat Robertson - a man whose name is practically synonymous with the Religious Right - likely took 700 Club viewers by surprise today when he opined that the Republican base is losing support by "pushing" what he described as "an extreme position."

Robertson expressed worry that Republican front runners are going to alienate voters during the general election by catering to a narrow base:

I believe it was Lyndon Johnson that said, "I doubt these people realize if they push me over to an extreme position that I'll lose the election. And I'm the one who will be supporting what they want, but they're going to make it so I can't win."

Those people in the Republican primary have got to lay off of this stuff. They're forcing their leaders, the front runners, into positions that will mean they lose the general election. Now whether this did it to Cain, I don't know, but nevertheless, you know, you appeal to the narrow base and they'll applaud the daylights out of what you're saying, and then you hit the general election and they say "no way" and then the Democrat, whoever it is, is going to just play these statements to the hilt. They've got to stop this! It's just so counterproductive!

Well. If they want to lose, this is the game for losers.

As Right Wing Watch notes, Robertson's statement came on the heels of a discussion about recent poll favorite Herman Cain's shifting views on how the government should approach the issue of abortion.

Now. How long until people take a look at this opinion - made by a man who obviously is deeply integrated in and, we may assume, has a deep commitment to the Republican party - and declare him a "RINO," further proving his point?

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+41 # universlman 2011-10-25 13:02
extreme views are more useful than reasoned arguments to determine trustworthiness of candidates by the uninformable
 
 
+42 # MainStreetMentor 2011-10-25 13:06
Pat Robertson's twisted idea of theology prompted him to advocate the assassination of the leader of a foreign country. It figures the GOP (Greed Obsessed Party) would want to be seen with him, and visa-versa.
 
 
+55 # fredboy 2011-10-25 13:12
I covered the first "Washington for Jesus" and saw Pat Robertson tie religion to the GOP, and predict it will lead to the former's demise. Now the GOP has replaced faith, and indeed is the new religion. The ferocity of allegiance ignited by the faith/political inbreeding has cost me friends and family members.

I believe Robertson's legacy will be clear: he will one day be known as the man who killed God.
 
 
+39 # Jorge 2011-10-25 15:59
Billionaire Pat Robertson personifies the 1% elites. His dad was a Jim Crow Senator and Pat Robertson made a fortune in the African diamond business. WWJD?
 
 
+124 # marind 2011-10-25 13:33
My take: The real Robertson message is that "You can believe and do exactly what you are saying, but don't spook the electorate by SAYING IT OUT LOUD."
 
 
+15 # kelly 2011-10-27 07:45
Exactly. He's not telling them not to believe that way. He's just telling them not to say it. Don't tell the truth about what you really feel until you're in a position to do something about it. After you get elected then you can push your right wing, crazy agenda as far as you want. Say whatever it takes to get elected, do whatever you want once it happens. This from the king of hypocrites.
 
 
0 # Obwon 2012-01-12 06:46
Isn't that what Scott Walker did? As a candidate he made no mention of his anti union agenda. Once elected> Poof, there it appears fully blown and empowered.

Anyone foolish enough to believe that perhaps Obama shares some blame for the economic mess we're in, has only to explain to us why Bush, during his last three years as President, spent almost 10 trillion dollars per year in total secrecy, on bailouts.

Bloomberg broke that news weeks ago, we have yet to hear any more about it.
 
 
+81 # Regina 2011-10-25 13:36
If Pat Robertson is now the voice of Republican reason, that just shows how whacky-zooey the Republicans and their tea-bag hangers-on have become. Yes, the Democrats with all their faults and all their sellouts (e.g., Ben Nelson) are our only viable recourse.
 
 
+19 # CL38 2011-10-25 14:19
I agree that Democrats have to shape up and stop taking special interest money. Once the right is voted out, we can pressure Democrats for the same reforms we want from the 1%.
 
 
+58 # CL38 2011-10-25 13:51
Here's a clue for pat robertson.

It's too late! The right has demonstrated total irresponsibilit y by pushing 'extreme positions' under Bush that have destroyed this country.

For the past 3 years, they've refused to be accountable and pass legislation that would help millions of Americans in crisis as a means of preventing Obama from getting re-elected.

What would the 99% gain by electing the 1% Republicans in upcoming elections?
Absolutely nothing--we'd be colluding in the final destruction of life in this country as we've known it.

The only thing Republicans have legitimately earned is to get voted out.
 
 
+107 # Barbara K 2011-10-25 13:55
There's one thing for sure: Get religion out of our politics !! They just don't mix. Running our government has nothing to do with religion. They need to take their ideologies to church, where they belong, not in our Government. If they want to practice their religion, the government is not the place for it.

NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN !!
 
 
+38 # Erdajean 2011-10-25 14:06
When Pat Robertson declares that the current GOP crop is missing their marbles, well, what more reinforcement do we need? We've got a bunch of vicious lunatics, pushing each other to further destruction of all that is good, just, humane and downright holy in American values -- snarling pack-dogs in a contest of infamy and outrage: withhold jobs from the jobless; kill Social Security or Medicare for the old; use up all they can of the earth and poison the rest; scorn women desperate for reproductive rescue, and poor people critically needing medical help -- hey, worthless garbage, just go on and DIE, won't you!
The idea that these people are out there, ranting -- and voting -- is just too much even for that old guy who has forever been leader of their dubious faith. Long too crazy for the rest of us, they're now too nuts for HIM! It's like Satan saying, "This Hell's too damn HOT!"
If this does not sober us into the most serious survival effort of our lives, what more will it take? Who among us wants to know...?
 
 
+35 # pbbrodie 2011-10-25 14:15
Join the Freedom From Religion Foundation. Full enforcement of the separation of church and state is a necessity in a free republic!
 
 
+4 # Doubter 2011-10-27 12:16
And you can subscribe to their great publication by making a small contribution says this member. http://ffrf.org/
 
 
+36 # chizables 2011-10-25 14:19
Hmmmmm... This is very surprising. Definitely doesn't sound like the Pat Robertson of the past... But then could it be it's just that he is anti-Herman Cain for some unknown reason? just sayin'... It just so happens that, of the two frontrunners, one is black and one is Mormon... I am betting that is what Pat doesn't like!
 
 
+28 # Ralph Averill 2011-10-25 16:12
Bingo!
 
 
+13 # pernsey 2011-10-25 14:19
Pat R. promoted all this crazy stuff, and is now denouncing it LOL!! Maybe someone didnt give him enough money to like their craziness. They will flip him a few more million and he will come around. I used to like this guy until he became such a right wing tool!
 
 
+31 # bboren 2011-10-25 14:20
Well lets see the Repug want a constitutional amendment to outlaw birth control. They want the banks to forclose on everyone. They want to lower the corporate tax rate to zero. They want to eliminate taxes on capital gains. They want to eliminate the minumum wage. Does anyone believe they have any other interest except making the rich richer and enslaving the rest of us to a wage (unless they figure out a way to may us work for nothing) that would force all of us to live in mud huts and eat things that crawl around after dark.
 
 
+10 # 666 2011-10-25 19:52
Quoting bboren:
[...] Does anyone believe they have any other interest except making [...] us [...] eat things that crawl around after dark.


oh man, now we gotta eat rebuglicans too?! An' I was just gettin' use to da taste of da cockroaches!
 
 
+37 # walt 2011-10-25 14:44
This hypocrite would never be saying this if he didn't see that people have wised up to the whole Republican party. They have shown themselves for the bigots they really are. They have one goal: get the black man out of the White House even if it means sacrificing the economy, Social Security, or whatever.
Let the GOP continue to bury itself. They have earned it with the likes of their candidates and their obstructionism in Congress for the last two years!
As for the likes of Robertson and the religious right wing, they seem to defy the constitutional guarantee of freedom of religion when they try to force their views of the nation.
 
 
+26 # noitall 2011-10-25 14:46
One thing you can say for them, they lost by telling the truth; telling what they are really about and what they really plan to do. We've been victim of hearing one story to vote in a Dem and sitting back singing the blues as we see him doing the exact opposite. Things that he could have done he didn't: Geithner is a HUGE case-in-point. What Robertson is telling the GOP is "lie your way in and do your agenda once the schmucks vote you into office". This is a corrupt and rediculous system where we cannot get rid of people in high office after thir lie to get in is unmasked. Take John Roberts of the SC. He lied during his interviews about not changing long-standing precident and then added the 'corporations as people' to the case before the Supreme Court, ushering in a HUGE part of the problem today. He ligitimized the buying of congress and the selling out of the people and this democracy. We live in a world of "don't give a sucker an even break" if your dumb enough to believe a politician you're not deserving of equality and a fair shake. Is this what we want to perpetuate? Not me! If they cannot live up to the standard set for the rest of us, the cannot 'lead'. Big talk, what we going to do about it??? Get out into the Street!
 
 
+16 # Kiwikid 2011-10-25 14:53
It seems there is more to be gained in bagging Robertson than there is in listening to what he is saying. At this point he's right! In fact he's so right in what he's saying here that if he's listened to on this by the Republican base he's now very dangerous to the progressive cause. Sure,dismiss him as a religious nutter, but at this point his analysis is accurate. Pray, if you believe in such a phenomenum, that nobody is listening!
 
 
+19 # wwway 2011-10-25 15:06
Pat Robertson's kidding of course. He helped build the GOP to the goal of what it is today...a carbon copy of himself.
 
 
+10 # wwway 2011-10-25 15:11
Does one have to be a Christian to be a Republican or a Republican to be a Christian? The answer to this long standing question came in an NPR interview in 2008 when a female student at Liberty University asked a male student who represtented on 5% minority of Democrats if he was "sure he was a Christian." One has to be a Republican to be a Christian.
 
 
+25 # Erdajean 2011-10-25 18:23
If being a "Christian" means following the teachings of Christ, the terms "Christian" and "Republican" are mutually exclusive. Those of us who DO believe and cling to those teachings have had to quit calling ourselves "Christian" because of what these despicable, hate-spreading, bigoted, war-mongering, poor-robbing, murderous thugs have brought the term to mean, around the world.
 
 
+2 # futhark 2011-10-27 06:38
It's easier for a rich man to get into heaven than it is for an elephant to do Christ's bidding.
 
 
0 # Doubter 2011-10-27 12:21
Joke...??
 
 
+3 # futhark 2011-10-28 04:02
Of course! How many camels have you seen jumping through the eyes of needles lately?
 
 
+3 # Texas Aggie 2011-10-27 22:19
I was visited by a couple of women proselytizing for the local Baptist church. Their pastor was from Fort Worth. In the conversation I asked if he supported Bush (yes), and then I made the observation that you can't be a Christian and support Bush's policies at the same time. She agreed with me, but said that they didn't talk about things like that in the church.
 
 
+29 # DLT888 2011-10-25 15:15
Robertson is just afraid the GOP is letting people know exactly who they are. Let those GOP candidates reveal their real selves and blabber all they want. At least then the people really know who they are (though most of us already do).

If there's anything I don't trust, it's a 'nice' Republican because he surely is hiding something.
 
 
+29 # Chick Dante 2011-10-25 15:20
Robertson quit being a Reverend years ago in favor of becoming a wildly successful (rich) businessman with interests in media and publishing. Those who, like Robertson, are aligned with big business and Wall Street, perennially get nervous when the Republicans go so far out on a limb that it threatens to diminish the political influence of these special interests.

Romney is their guy and he will be the nominee of the Party. The purpose of the whack jobs is to make Romney appealing to the incrementaly more reactionary, but decidedly pro-plutocratic center as the "voice of reason." Cain, Perry, and Bachmann are but mere rodeo clowns.
 
 
+21 # bluescat48 2011-10-25 16:05
Robertson is a typical right-wing psuedo-Christia n with ties to the corporofascist TEA mob.
 
 
+28 # Buddha 2011-10-25 16:40
Heck with the message against abortion, I think the better attacks will come with all of them supporting flat tax regression hurting the middle and lower classes, decimating Medicare (RyanDon'tCare) and defunding Social Security as Perry's "opt-out" plan would do. If the Dems have a brain in their skull, they should hammer on those issues over and over and over...
 
 
+22 # teineitalia 2011-10-25 17:18
Are you kidding me, Pat? Only just now you noticed that the whack jobs out in front of the Republican party are off-the- charts crazy? And their fundamentalist base even more so!

Where've you been for the last several years? Counting gold coins sent to you by old ladies trying to get into heaven?

You, Mr. Robertson, are one of those responsible for unleashing the evils in this Pandora's box... you know, the one where you fuse- and confuse - government and religion?

and now you want to close the lid? good luck.

The founding fathers insisted upon separation of church and state for a very good reason.. they were enlightened men, who understood the pitfalls of allowing fundamentalism to rule the day.
 
 
+19 # Larry2 2011-10-25 17:27
Just listen who's talking about extreme positions- Satan himself.
Romney is Mormon; Cain is Protestant, but Black. This is ole Pat's problem with the GOP.
 
 
+10 # ABen 2011-10-25 22:14
Larry, you hit the nail squarely on the head!
 
 
+20 # moby doug 2011-10-25 17:28
Romney, the Corporate-Fasci st say-anything-to -win Mormon, is the only GOP candidate who can appeal to the center. Robertson knows this and is starting his campaign to make the Mormon palatable to his Fundy-bigot followers....
 
 
+12 # Billy Bob 2011-10-25 19:30
My thoughts exactly. robertson never really cared about anything other than the repuglican agenda, and romney is the only chance they have. Suddenly, robertson is telling the other psychotic phony Christians to vote against their conscience, just so another repug can be in office.
 
 
+15 # jwb110 2011-10-25 17:32
Robertson, like a great many of his Fascist-Religio us friends is scared because they are seeing the end of their dominance and all the back peddling on the planet will reverse what they have put into motion.
Even they cannot serve two masters; god and mammon.
 
 
+6 # DPM 2011-10-25 18:11
Don't expect the Democrats to step up the the plate with a bat made of "reason".

Under Republican's, Man exploits Man. Under Democrat's, it's just the opposite!
 
 
+10 # Buddha 2011-10-25 21:50
That is because the 1% who really runs the entire corrupt political system sponsors BOTH parties (and >50% of Congress are members of that top 1% themselves), and this ensures that for the issues that really matter to them (money and political power always resides with that 1%), Dem v GOP is meaningless. That said, there definitely are differences between the two parties that makes it worthwhile voting Dem...but at the same time fighting and protesting against the corrupt system itself...
 
 
+15 # reiverpacific 2011-10-25 19:46
He must be worried about his bottom line and the advertisers attached to the 700 Club.
He was involved in some pretty shady but highly profitable diamond (and slave-labor) deals in Southern Africa -I forget which country- and referred to my native land thus "Scotland is a dark land run by homosexuals" -after trying to do some ultimately thwarted deals (Gawd knows what) with the Bank of Scotland (and remember that he and the late Falwell blamed 9-11 on America's toleration of gays).
Nice to know that he is demonstrating his true colors -$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$-(Green)!
 
 
+18 # kootenayguy 2011-10-25 20:34
I believe that Pat Robertson is referenced in Iris DeMent's great 1996 country & western protest song "Living in the Wasteland of the Free." The song beegins like this: "We got preachers dealin' in politics and diamond mines/ And their speech is growin' increasingly unkind/ They say they are Christ's disciples/ But they don't look like Jesus to me/ And I'm livin' in the wasteland of the free."
DeMent totally nailed America's ills in this mid-90s song--even has a line about "CEOs makin' 200 times the worker's pay."
 
 
+16 # Buddha 2011-10-25 21:46
As a commentator put it so well on "Olbermann" today, "When Pat Robertson says you have gotten too extreme, then it is time for some serious soul searching!"
 
 
+18 # ABen 2011-10-25 22:08
When Pat Robertson becomes the right-wing voice for moderation, you know that the GOP has truly gone "round the bend."
 
 
+6 # Maze 2011-10-25 23:30
Uh, Pat...next time use spell check. In your speech you said, "I believe it was Lyndon Johnson that said, ..." Isn't Lyndon a who?
 
 
+8 # fredboy 2011-10-26 07:25
Pat has so distorted the meaning and credibility of his professed faith that it will in the future be unsustainable.
 
 
+8 # eddieK 2011-10-26 08:18
Don't misunderstand his intention: What he means is -- don't let them know just how far Left you are while running for election ---- Wait till you've won and then spring it on them..... Witness the last group of Extreme Rightists elected to offices - mainly governors - who are now facing recall and voter challenges to their policies. They did not run on the issues that they sprang on the electorate once in office. "Sneaky' is the new underlying plan to get into office - is all Pat Robertson is saying.
 
 
+4 # Doubter 2011-10-27 12:28
just how far Left
You mean right?
 
 
+3 # Paul Scott 2011-10-27 00:25
Pat Robertson dropped the lawsuit proving the story true.

http://www.schlatter.org/liquor_officer.htm
 
 
+4 # futhark 2011-10-27 06:35
Yes, "Reverend" Robertson, and the minions of Satan are too extremely evil, no matter how much they lie about spreading "freedom" and "democracy" as they kill and steal for control of economic resources.
 
 
+4 # k8carroll 2011-10-27 10:43
Hello, pot? ... Kettle on line 3!
 
 
+4 # 4yourinformation 2011-10-27 13:59
Not that Robertson disagrees with the RW crazees....he just wants them to STFU so they can win and THEN the crazees can ruin the rest of the country.
 
 
0 # David Starr 2011-10-31 14:22
Barbara K is exactly right regarding religion. I'll add that precisely because of it being historically rooted in blind faith, overt abstractions, & blatant contradictions- & not traditionally prioritizing reason & logic-it is not to be imposed on the public & government. Then you have the U.S. founders' instituting the separation of church & state. Religion is strictly a private affair.
 
 
0 # David Starr 2011-11-01 13:42
The posters here have made the point regarding Robertson.

To echo this: It's not that Robertson is against religious extremism; it's a matter of timing - before taking power, appear "reasonable," after taking power attempt to impose the real Repub agenda.

And to echo Barabara K: NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN. I'll add: UNFORTUNATELY, hold your nose & vote Democratic, then go off somewhere private & get sick.
 

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