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Pierce writes: "In what is the first ever conviction of its kind anywhere in the world, the former US President George W. Bush and seven key members of his administration were found guilty of war crimes."

George Bush and Dick Cheney. (photo: Getty Images)
George Bush and Dick Cheney. (photo: Getty Images)


War Criminals Among Us: Bush, Cheney and the Eyes of the World

By Charles Pierce, Esquire

02 June 15

 

In which we learn how to say 'war crimes' in Malaysian.

ast week, Richard Clarke, the man to whom nobody in the administration of C-Plus Augustus listened because what did he know, anyway?, had a chat with Amy Goodman in which he minced no words regarding his former employers.

"I think things that they authorized probably fall within the area of war crimes. Whether that would be productive or not, I think, is a discussion we could all have. But we have established procedures now with the International Criminal Court in The Hague, where people who take actions as serving presidents or prime ministers of countries have been indicted and have been tried. So the precedent is there to do that sort of thing. And I think we need to ask ourselves whether or not it would be useful to do that in the case of members of the Bush administration. It's clear that things that the Bush administration did — in my mind, at least, it's clear that some of the things they did were war crimes."

And, something that most of us missed, there was a court on the other side of the world that agreed.

In what is the first ever conviction of its kind anywhere in the world, the former US President and seven key members of his administration were... found guilty of war crimes. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and their legal advisers Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo were tried in absentia in Malaysia...At the end of the week-long hearing, the five-panel tribunal unanimously delivered guilty verdicts against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and their key legal advisors who were all convicted as war criminals for torture and cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment. Full transcripts of the charges, witness statements and other relevant material will now be sent to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations and the Security Council.

At the very least, this court parceled out the blame for the torture program in a fair manner and all the way up the chain of command. The testimony of the victims was as horrible as you might expect:

The court heard how Abbas Abid, a 48-year-old engineer from Fallujah in Iraq had his fingernails removed by pliers; Ali Shalal was attached with bare electrical wires and electrocuted and hung from a wall; Moazzam Begg was beaten, hooded and put in solitary confinement, Jameelah was stripped and humiliated, and was used as a human shield whilst being transported by helicopter. The witnesses also detailed how they have residual injuries till today.

In related news, Ed Kilgore notes that Cheney continues to glory in his status as the most inexcusable American who ever lived. It's like giving Pol Pot a late-night TV gig.

At times, Mr. Cheney seems to relish his villainous public persona. Outside the rodeo arena, he took a moment to show off the latest feature on his truck, a Darth Vader trailer-hitch cover, a nod to his alter-ego from the Bush days. "I'm rather proud of that," he said, flashing his signature uneven grin.

To paraphrase Rick Blaine, I don't object to a vampire, I object to a gutless one. I'll buy the stake if someone else buys the garlic.

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+138 # loraine 2015-06-02 15:04
My sentiments EXACTLY!
 
 
+48 # ritawalpoleague 2015-06-03 05:28
Yep, criminals they and their cronies are. Nail it I did in January of 2006 in .....

VOTERS' LAMENT

Now it's George and Dickie's time,
So it's George and Dickie's dime.
Patriot's warfare is o.k.,
'Cause they know how to make it pay.

Neocons, they call the shots
While Americans get the trots,
Clearly paying through the nose,
While the deficit grows and grows.

And the arms boys have their way,
As Americans pay and pay,
Better ways to kill and spy,
On Americans as we try...

The Iraqi war to curtail,
And a war in Iran to derail.
We're surveilled and spied upon,
While their spin goes on and on.

Yes, their terror spin has clout,
For it's what they're all about.
Keeping folks all scared and green,
While they crank their war machine.

For, indeed, greed is their game,
Power is their middle name.
And the devil has his day,
While Americans pay and play.

Then they break the law with ease,
Torture if and when they please.
Keep the mainstream press in line,
Muzzle critics, lie just fine.

When it's George and Dickie's time,
Then it's George and Dickie's crime.
'Cause they rule our land and space,
In corruption and disgrace.
 
 
-44 # HowardMH 2015-06-03 09:49
Like to add one more thing:
Obama the Wimp,
Obama the Wimp,
Obama the Wimp.
 
 
+21 # dandevries 2015-06-04 17:22
They should have included Leezy Rice!
 
 
+118 # indian weaver 2015-06-02 15:20
Aren't similar War Crimes trials scheduled in Scotland and Switzerland, since they issued indictments against these criminals, as I recall? We should not forget that Obama paid off the Spanish government to drop their impending indictment against dubya and dick a year or 2 ago. The lawyer preparing that indictment, as I recall a well-known Spanish human rights attorney, was discredited and all but "disappeared" due to Obama's leverage with the Spanish government against that indictment. I'd love to see dubya and dick hang to death, along with those several others. I'd regain some faith in justice again, but I would not regain any confidence in any justice ever again in Amerika. I think justice in this country is forever gone. Holder drowned it with his cowardice but it was already in its death throes, due to these other war criminals in the prior administration. In any case, I'm happy to see this issue still in the international press. I wonder why I don't see this on NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox or CNN? Anybody have any idea about that!
 
 
+43 # randrjwr 2015-06-03 09:40
In Re: "I wonder why I don't see this on NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox or CNN? Anybody have any idea about that!"

Because such reporting would not please the corporate warmongers who advertise on those outlets. A member of our family who was in Afghanistan as a photojournalist had pictures of our prisoners there clearly showing their poor condition and NO American newspaper, including the venerable(?) New York Times would touch them.

And SHAME, SHAME, SHAME on Obama, for the Spanish affair as well as his overall failure to hold the Bush administration accountable.
 
 
+35 # MainStreetMentor 2015-06-03 14:26
Don't EVER forget: When she was Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi had the chance, and the power, to initiate proceedings to investigate in a public forum/venue both George W. Bush and Richard "Dick" Cheney - and she "tabled" the entire affair, refusing to engage in what needed absolutely to be done. These two men, at the very LEAST, need to be charged with these crimes, and stand before the American Public in a publicly viewed court of law proceeding.
 
 
-2 # intheEPZ 2015-06-04 08:13
And Pelosi needs to be held accountable and unseated.
 
 
+26 # wantrealdemocracy 2015-06-03 16:06
SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! on all of us for not rising up to stop these war criminals. Shame! Shame! Shame on us for not being wise enough to stop voting for the corrupt people in Congress now. It is a terrible shame that so many of us stay loyal to the political parties of our parents - never making the effort to see how these political parties have morphed together in one powerful force for more evil.
 
 
+12 # ritawalpoleague 2015-06-04 02:34
And, randrjwr, let's not ignore the buying off of the press's 'holy trinity', NBC, ABC, CBS, by the 1%ers and their cronies.

Re. CNN, heard firsthand, from an old friend of CNN's founder, how founder had been forced out of ownership/news control, in a dreadful manner. Cannot have ethical journalism in place, now could the B.S. Bastards who managed the coup d'état so well? Instead, we were given Fox Ca Ca channel, to help keep we the sheeple dumbed down and under total control.

Loads of work needs to be done in order to implode this dreadful takeover and restore a free press and media that truthfully informs us, a.k.a. free press.
 
 
+9 # economagic 2015-06-03 19:52
"We should not forget that Obama paid off the Spanish government to drop their impending indictment against dubya and dick a year or 2 ago. The lawyer preparing that indictment, as I recall a well-known Spanish human rights attorney, was discredited and all but "disappeared" due to Obama's leverage with the Spanish government against that indictment."

Right. So why are the sheeple loving your comment and hating Howard's? For people to whom loyalty to the Democratic party stands above truth, justice, and/or The American Way, there is another popular site over there that also has many interesting news items but a lot more unabashed comments about how the Democratic party is our only hope.
 
 
+99 # randi1randi1@yahoo.com 2015-06-02 15:23
I can't wait until these scumbags are locked up in prison.
 
 
+85 # indian weaver 2015-06-02 16:36
At the least, the international press and the secular, non-corporate press can keep these 2 slimy nightmares in the public crosshairs. The 2 have big targets on their backs. Hence, they hide, in internal exile, now prevented from visiting several countries by pending indictments against them. Didn't Interpol issue an indictment against dubya too? Seems I read that, unlikely as it may be.
 
 
+55 # Farafalla 2015-06-02 23:30
I think we'll be waiting a long time. The empire has no capacity of reflection on reality.
 
 
+33 # harleysch 2015-06-03 06:41
Don't forget Tony Blair!
 
 
+10 # dquandle 2015-06-03 09:48
And don't forget Obama/ Clinton/Powers/ Rice/Brennan et al., full partners in war crimes and executive murder, torture, and illegal imprisonment.
 
 
+98 # CelticNavigator 2015-06-02 18:41
Once again, RSN has inspired me to post this link to the trailer for Vincent Bugliosi's documentary, "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder." Vince, America's most famous prosecutor with a nearly perfect string of successful cases, is dead serious about going after GWB like a pit bull on speed, if a single grand jury anywhere in America finds the courage to bring murder charges against him. Vince is one of the last persons on Earth I would want to be pissed off at me if I was guilty of murder, I assure you. Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68_3rjp0Rkw
 
 
+18 # Douglas Jack 2015-06-03 07:59
Celtic Navigator, Wonderful. Interview with Vincent Bugliosi, renowned prosecutor and the author of on Democracy Now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6bFNGLP2-I Its essential that colonial Americans, Canadians, NATO, Israeli, Palestinians & people of the world learn to reconnect the dots. This is not just about Iraq where 9 million have died since British & American aggression over 100 years ago, nor Afghanistan where 6 million have died since 9/11 but over 85 countries worldwide where western arms & dis-intelligenc e forces are arming mercenaries to destabilize Arab nations, Libya, Syria & abroad such as Venezuela etc with the loss of millions of lives / year. This is a Holocaust not seen since the colonization of Africa of the Americas each with 100 million dead. Learn about your own 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generatin g') worldwide heritage & practices for peace & abundance. www.indigenecommunity.info Follow the money in those times to the Windsor, & Vatican centred aristocratic wealthy, then in US politics to Finance-Media-E ducation-Milita ry-Industrial-L egislative-Comp lex oligarchs owning every Congress politician today through: AIPAC, Rothschild, Hasbara, Mossad agency. Learn about the Oded-Yinon blueprint is based in violent competition & dominance. “Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East The Infamous "Oded Yinon Plan". Introduction by Michel Chossudovsky http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
 
 
+9 # Activista 2015-06-03 10:54
Military-Indust rial-Legislativ e-Complex oligarchs owning every Congress politician today through: AIPAC, Rothschild, Hasbara, Mossad agency. Learn about the Oded-Yinon blueprint is based in violent competition & dominance. “Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East The Infamous "Oded Yinon Plan". Introduction by Michel Chossudovsky http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
exactly -this is the source/why we are in the middle east ...
 
 
+5 # Douglas Jack 2015-06-03 12:59
Activista, Of course exploration of war-financing brings forth a fear-factor for those who have not informed themselves. Zionist Hasbara propaganda has been so effective at keeping the truth from huge parts of the population through absolute control of US & Canadian media, including many Jews. However many Jews such as Noam Chomsky, are in the leadership of this truth movement. Those who know understand Semites include: Aramaic (Turks), Jews & Arabs. We know that; its not a matter of them & us but only us 7 billion all working together for a better world truthfully. We need a deep exploration of the false colonial worldview which misinforms us institutionally & with all media except now for some social-media. www.indigenecommunity.info
 
 
+7 # Activista 2015-06-03 11:11
"When viewed in the current context, the war on Iraq, the 2006 war on Lebanon, the 2011 war on Libya, the ongoing war on Syria, not to mention the process of regime change in Egypt, must be understood in relation to the Zionist Plan for the Middle East. The latter consists in weakening and eventually fracturing neighboring Arab states as part of an Israeli expansionist project."
www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
read - this is USA/Israel foreign policy
 
 
+5 # Philothustra 2015-06-03 12:49
All perfectly true, but a more important point is that the PNAC plan has failed utterly, not because they didn't topple the regimes & spread chaos, but because the underlying premise- the approaching end of cheap oil-- turned out to be a false alarm, what with fracked & gas.

The whole fandango- half a million dead, US ruined, ISIS spreading, mideast anarchy lets loose the dogs of war-- all was an UTTER WASTE with almost no oil stolen, no billions for Chevron, Exxon, Mobil BP Halliburton, etc.

The most you can boast is that Dub and Dick and Rummy and Wolfie have to hide inside the hideous borders of our US client states... Because all these daylight fantasies of war crimes trials and "real justice" and America "finally waking up" are just that... empty talk.
 
 
+5 # Douglas Jack 2015-06-03 14:49
Philothustra, RE: "PNAC plan has failed utterly" They've caused 10s of millions of deaths in over 85 nations worldwide, most Islamic, To start with, 5.6 million US Afghanistan Invasion 10th Anniversary: War-related Deaths By Dr Gideon Polya Countercurrents .org http://www.countercurrents.org/polya101011.htm Unnecessary deaths includes statistical breakdowns & sourcing of invasion, destabilization , drugs, excess death, premature deaths, infant-mortalit y etc. etc compared with if we're not actively creating our colonial hell there.

Zionist-imposed American Holocaust, MWC, Media With Conscience, Dr. Polya, 27'Aug'13
http://mwcnews.net/focus/politics/30291-american-holocaust.html

10th Anniversary Of US Iraq Invasion: 2.7 Million Iraqi Deaths By Dr Polya 20 March, 2013 Countercurrents .org http://www.countercurrents.org/polya200313.htm

Western oligarch 'We-sell-war' complex is very successful. Mohandas Gandhi, “I can imagine a fully armed man to be at heart a coward. Possession of arms implies an element of fear, if not cowardess. But true non-violence is an impossibility without the possession of unadulterated fearlessness.” We need to call-out these intellectual cowards who hide behind war because of the psychological difficulty with dialogue. Only when an aggressive party continues abuse & killing of innocents, but refuses debate, can we undertake war. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues
 
 
+4 # Activista 2015-06-04 11:07
Great references - we all need to do what Doug does - power of powerless can change the system - get power to the people from oligarchs.
USA is on the trend of Ukraine -
 
 
+3 # Douglas Jack 2015-06-04 14:24
Activista, Thank you for your support here on RSN. Its interesting your information systems & software programming background. A group of us are working in Montreal area on open-source, open-data 'community economy' programming called 'Do-we-know-who -we-are-?' for community empowerment. Do-we-know includes neighbourhood Human-Resource- Catalogue, Resource-Mappin g & accounting for contributions / transactions in a Community-Inves tment-&-Exchang e-System CIES. We presently have 3 programmers working on different aspects of this, but it is a large project to replace money as colonialism's defective accounting system & reintegrate capital, currency, social-security , communications, education etc in humanity's 'indigenous' heritage. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/9-do-we-know-who-we-are
 
 
+5 # geraldom 2015-06-03 17:24
CelticNavigator , is "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder" the same as the documentary entitled "The Prosecution of an American President." Are they one and the same?
 
 
+2 # geraldom 2015-06-05 15:42
Hey, Guys (or Gals), I actually would like to know if these two documentaries are one and the same, or are actually two different films. Does anyone actually have the answer to this query?
 
 
+2 # Douglas Jack 2015-06-05 18:17
Geraldom, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder is the book published in 2008 by Vincent Bugliosi. The Prosecution of an American President is the movie from 2012. Both involve Vincent Bugliosi directed by David J. Burke, Dave Hagen. With Vincent Bugliosi, George W. Bush, Elizabeth de la Vega, Alan M. Dershowitz. Famed Charles Manson prosecutor Bugliosi. Your question inspired my curiosity.
 
 
+2 # geraldom 2015-06-06 23:23
Thank you for the info. I do appreciate it. I am aware of the history and I know who Vincent Bugliosi is. FSTV recently aired the documentary "The Prosecution of an American President," and I recorded it on my DVD burner. I didn't know that "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder" was the book version.

After George Bush was no longer president, I have been wanting to contact Vincent Bugliosi to find out why he never carried out his threat to prosecute George W Bush. I found out how difficult it is, how almost impossible it is these days to obtain contact information for celebrities.
 
 
+107 # Dongi 2015-06-02 21:34
Is America finally waking up? Is our collective conscience stirring? Are we not appalled at the way our government has tortured fellow human beings in the Mideast? The actions of the Bush administration were that of a psychopath. They do not represent the nation that so many swore to defend in World War II and the subsequent cold war for 40+ yrs afterwards. All this by a man who stole an election in 2000 and was hiding in an elementary classroom in 2001. Instead of hurrying to airforce 1 in case a nuclear war was coming. To be at the center of communications and on top of the launch codes.

By all means give the Bush and Cheney gang their day in court. No torture; nothing that we would be ashamed of. But, bring everything out, and, if guilty, let them pay, brother, let them pay.
 
 
+23 # NAVYVET 2015-06-02 22:01
Ok, now what about Obama and his?
 
 
+47 # lewagner 2015-06-02 23:15
Yes.
And why hasn't Obama prosecuted the war criminals???
Instead we have this incredibly stupid "good Democrat - bad Republican" mentality, that exhibits itself on RSN daily, by all the thumbs-down for any comment that suggests that Democrats should ALSO be held accountable -- to at LEAST the standards that they ran for office under.
And still no way of knowing how many thumbs up and thumbs down, all we see is the running total.
 
 
+16 # geohorse 2015-06-03 06:09
He knew that the GOP would put him on trial or impeach him if he did anything but try to put prosecution of the Bush people off the table. Then, of course, he'd not only get nothing done but the country would suffer even more. Many of us disagree but there is a certain amount of support to this reasoning in many places.
 
 
-24 # indian weaver 2015-06-03 06:17
See my earlier comment above. Obama deserves execution for Crimes Against Humanity as much as dubya and dick. Biden is complicit in the crimes too, as an accessory and co-conspirator. I give Obama no pass. He's every bit the lying coward as the prior slime destroying our country and the planet, incarnated as dubya and dick.
 
 
-14 # dquandle 2015-06-03 09:49
Yes indeed. Obama is as vicious and as completely guilty of atrocities as his Republican thug mentors.
 
 
+2 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2015-06-03 02:24
Honor among thieves and murderers?
 
 
+17 # wrknight 2015-06-03 06:42
Quoting NAVYVET:
Ok, now what about Obama and his?
In many states (if not all), a person can be charged with accessory after the fact or aiding and abetting if he or she didn't participate in the crime, but knowingly aided the perpetrators in avoiding capture and prosecution. (I believe it's also federal law.) Doesn't that fit the description of Obama's inaction?
 
 
+21 # wrknight 2015-06-03 06:51
Quoting NAVYVET:
Ok, now what about Obama and his?

But it goes way beyond Obama. The prosecution's list should include all the neocons and corporate moguls who advocated war against Iraq and Afghanistan and who continue to advocate war against Syria, Yemen, Iran, Libya, Ukraine and how many other countries that don't bow down to the US and its corporate masters.
 
 
+19 # REDPILLED 2015-06-03 07:41
The U.N. Convention Against Torture, of which the U.S. is a signer, REQUIRES prosecution of any U.S. officials who authorized and/or engaged in torture. Obama refused to obey this Convention, and should have been impeached for violating his oath of office.

But U.S. Presidents are above the law, of course. As Noam Chomsky has said, if the Nuremberg Tribunals had been obeyed, every U.S. President since 1945 would have been hanged.
 
 
+78 # Thebigkate 2015-06-02 22:04
I would even dig out my old American flag--which has been hidden away for many years--if those hideous American War Criminals somehow ended on trial at The Hague! Especially Cheney:
..."Cheney continues to glory in his status as the most inexcusable American who ever lived. It's like giving Pol Pot a late-night TV gig." Well said!
 
 
+32 # CelticNavigator 2015-06-03 03:04
Agree Kate, except that The Hague is an international court, not an American one, so no pride should accrue to us. Now, if a U.S. grand jury proferred murder charges on GWB, like the hopeful scenario in my first post about Vince Bugliosi, above, then that would be a reason for American pride.
 
 
+14 # FIRSTNORN1 2015-06-03 05:39
Quoting Thebigkate:
I would even dig out my old American flag--which has been hidden away for many years--if those hideous American War Criminals somehow ended on trial at The Hague! Especially Cheney:
..."Cheney continues to glory in his status as the most inexcusable American who ever lived. It's like giving Pol Pot a late-night TV gig." Well said!

Thanks to Thebigkate - well said:-)
 
 
+36 # reiverpacific 2015-06-02 22:05
Just watch the private or chartered flights to Paraguay!!!!!!!
That's their last resort -or maybe yet another power grab on a beleaguered nation long the refuge of war criminals.
These "Foreheads villainous low" smears of human excrement on the microscopic glass of global menace, are almost as slippery as their biological plague-spreader kin, except that they have no place on this precious Goldilocks Zone planetary manifestation from the Great Unknowable, as an element of a living, breathing and conscious circle of life we seem to take for granted.
I especially like the "Gutless Vampire" analogy.
 
 
+13 # Mattie 2015-06-03 06:38
Reiverpacific, I've been trying for some time to locate reliable information on the Paraguay land grab, the mysterious runway (US dollars?), etc. I enjoy conspiracy theories simply because they reveal that information is being withheld someplace.But, in this case, there is too much smoke; there has to be a fire. Thousands of hectares held by the Bush family in the world's richest aquifer? Will you help with some reliable information?
 
 
+9 # reiverpacific 2015-06-03 09:49
Quoting Mattie:
Reiverpacific, I've been trying for some time to locate reliable information on the Paraguay land grab, the mysterious runway (US dollars?), etc. I enjoy conspiracy theories simply because they reveal that information is being withheld someplace.But, in this case, there is too much smoke; there has to be a fire. Thousands of hectares held by the Bush family in the world's richest aquifer? Will you help with some reliable information?

I wrote an essay entitled "Dimwits in Paraguay" (Full version on my RSN personal profile) in part gleaned from what little information is available, the timing of Paraguay's first center-left president being removed from office and the establishment of a US Military base there.
I'm certainly no conspiracy buff and it was in fact news to me that the incurious, international ignoramus, Dimwits (I utterly refuse to call him anything else) even had a clue where Paraguay was -the deal was done by one of his daughters. In fact I asked no less than Greg Palast on a call-in show to KBOO Portland Ore recently, if he knew anything about it and even he was a bit vague about the whole thing.
Anyway, -if you read my essay- my own inquiries end up with as many questions as it answers but as this cabal of crony war criminals' travel options shrink worldwide -including the despicable and hated phony "Toney" Blair, who just resigned his "Middle East Envoy" position, the escape-route question comes ever more into probability.
 
 
+5 # Mattie 2015-06-03 16:54
Many thanks, reiverpacific. I'm going to be away for a few days, but will follow through and let you know if I stumble on anything reliable. I'll read your essay, with gratitude. About conspiracy theories: they are just theories, often fueled by fear, but often worth looking at to see why/if/and by whom information is being withheld. Incidentally, my memory is that Fred Pearce mentioned the Bush Paraguay land grab in his "Land Grabbers" a couple of years ago. Pearce worth reading!
 
 
+18 # Dongi 2015-06-02 22:07
It's kind of like triage. We take the most serious cases first. Yes, let's not give Obama a get out of jail free card; we'll get to him too. In time, in time.
 
 
+6 # wrknight 2015-06-03 06:54
Quoting Dongi:
It's kind of like triage. We take the most serious cases first. Yes, let's not give Obama a get out of jail free card; we'll get to him too. In time, in time.

Not too much time, I hope. I would like to see it while I'm still here.
 
 
+45 # Archie1954 2015-06-02 22:12
The Malaysian court was an informal tribunal that relies on a moral and ethical mandate rather than a legal one. That doesn't detract from its correct judgement though!
 
 
+36 # PABLO DIABLO 2015-06-02 22:35
The day Bush and Cheney go to prison, I will give ALL my money to the federal government.
 
 
+12 # wrknight 2015-06-03 07:03
Quoting PABLO DIABLO:
The day Bush and Cheney go to prison, I will give ALL my money to the federal government.

You might want to rethink your offer to give your money to the federal government if Bush and Cheney ever went to prison. If they are ever tried, convicted and sent to prison, it will not be the result of any U.S. government action.
 
 
+53 # Cdesignpdx 2015-06-02 22:39
Bush, Cheney and their coconspirators should be stripped of every asset and all of it banked to rebuild the lives of families (on all sides) who have been destroyed by their contrived "war on terror."

Pipe Dreams: reparations and legal recreational pot in all 50 states.
 
 
+43 # Kwamined 2015-06-02 23:59
YES: Bush, Cheney, et. al. are guilty of war crimes. They are also guilty of treason. Are not war crimes and treason punishable by by hanging?
 
 
+19 # m... 2015-06-03 00:18
I think they all deserve life in the electric chair....
 
 
+1 # indian weaver 2015-06-03 06:19
Death is too good for dubya, dick and Obama. Better that they are tortured for the rest of their sorry lives. Now that is what would be justice.
 
 
+3 # Philothustra 2015-06-03 12:50
I want Cheney alive and suffering....
 
 
+25 # janie1893 2015-06-03 00:19
Don't even think of hanging them. Let them live in jail for the rest of their lives.

But it had better be soon. If the cry for charges of war crimes gets too loud, as reiver said, there will be numerous flights to Paraguay, where Bush has a very large piece of property.
 
 
+29 # bullslam 2015-06-03 03:04
Oh, yes! How prescient of GWB to have purchased a 65,000 acre ranch in Paraguay, which, wouldn't you know, just happens to be on top of the largest aquifer in the western world. So that, ultimately, he would control most of the water in the world. Don't tell me he didn't know what he was doing! But even the smallest hint of retribution would have him on a plane to South America in a heartbeat. His fellow Bonesmen are everywhere. The slightest whisper of real trouble and they would have him out of the country faster than you can count to two.
 
 
+13 # reiverpacific 2015-06-03 11:17
Quoting bullslam:
Oh, yes! How prescient of GWB to have purchased a 65,000 acre ranch in Paraguay, which, wouldn't you know, just happens to be on top of the largest aquifer in the western world. So that, ultimately, he would control most of the water in the world. Don't tell me he didn't know what he was doing! But even the smallest hint of retribution would have him on a plane to South America in a heartbeat. His fellow Bonesmen are everywhere. The slightest whisper of real trouble and they would have him out of the country faster than you can count to two.

Not to be nit-picky but it's 98,000 acres.
And yes, I've considered the location of the property on the Guarani Aquifier (named ironically after the invaded and exploited principal Paraguayan indigenous peoples), largest in Continental S. America.
If Dimwits and his gang DO make a bolt for Paraguay, which is entirely landlocked, wouldn't it be a delicious turn of fate if the other mostly progressive nations that surround it closed their airspace to such flights, as Evo Moralés' plane had imposed on it by the US/CIA when they suspected that Snowden was on board -these wouldn't even be "official" flights as Morales' was, so they'd have no immunity!
What a wonderful thought.
 
 
+4 # CelticNavigator 2015-06-03 03:13
janie1893, why does your post remind me of Bruce Cockburn's great rad protest song, "If I Had a Rocket Launcher?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z02J_kPincA
 
 
+38 # geraldom 2015-06-03 00:47
What amazes me so about the Democratic Party is that it is extremely reluctant to prosecute Republican politicians like Bush and Cheney and others who have truly committed criminal acts, and yet the Republican Party is more than willing to prosecute Democratic politicians at the drop of a hat.

The Republican Party went through impeachment proceedings against Bill Clinton without any hesitation, and has openly threatened Barack Obama with impeachment multiple times.
 
 
+2 # dquandle 2015-06-03 09:53
That's because the " Democrat" Obama and his despicable regime followed Bush / Cheney slavishly in the continuing of murder and atrocities, and followed all of their heinous policies, and amplified them.
 
 
+6 # James Marcus 2015-06-03 01:02
Paraguay is fine. They can run, but they cannot hide. There are those who would volunteer, pay for the honor, even, of 'Delivering Justice' to their doorsteps; an EASY delivery, in Paraguay.
Obama, and Daddy Bush, are also, verily, included in this list of Human Scum. Sonny Boy Bush is an Innocent Imbecile beside the evil Insanity of George Sr. and the Lying, Treasonous mass murders of Obama
 
 
+32 # futhark 2015-06-03 02:34
Germany has discovered the value of prosecuting the war criminals among its own citizens as a way of reestablishing credibility and respect in the world. Right now, what perhaps is the last trial of a Nazi war criminal, Oskar Groening, SS bookkeeper at Auschwitz, is in progress. By participating in the theft of the property of incoming prisoners, he is being charged with being an accessory to 300 000 murders.

The United States can similarly act to demonstrate that we, too, are capable of recognizing war crimes among our own officials (here G. W. Bush and R. B. Cheney, et al.) and assuring everyone concerned that there really is justice for all in this nation.
 
 
+21 # pagrad 2015-06-03 03:13
Since Bush and Cheney consider themselves ‘Conservatives’ , treat them as ‘old fashioned conservatives’ of 500 years ago. Confiscate all their lands and assets. Then flog them and keep them in stocks.
 
 
+9 # futhark 2015-06-03 10:15
pagradm my understanding is that the late medieval punishment for persons of high rank was public beheading with a sword. However, I think your suggestions of confiscation of property and condemnation to lifetime confinement would be more useful, both in terms of helping pay the costs incurred by their follies and to keep a perpetual reminder alive for politicians who tend toward the same path.

Above all else, don't make them martyrs!
 
 
+29 # walt 2015-06-03 05:56
Until the USA takes actions for these alleged crimes, we will live with the shame. The nation was disgraced by it all and even plunged into a deficit for a needless war based on lies. It's time for people to demand accountability.
 
 
+21 # indian weaver 2015-06-03 06:24
I believe that dubya's invasion of Iraq has been paid for on borrowed money from China and India, at least $800 billion. And you know what? We The People have to pay back that debt, not dubya and dick. Those 2 criminals didn't even pay for their own criminal worldwide police actions but laid the cost on We the People. Meanwhile, where does all of our money go - to those corrupt killers who make and service the weapons of mass destruction and populate the Wehrmacht. These horrible humans even hire private security firms to guard our troops! How corrupt is that, hire your buddies to protect you and have others pay for it, shoveling more taxes their way while impoverishing We The People.
 
 
+35 # opinionaire 2015-06-03 06:24
Why does Condi continue to get a pass?
 
 
+14 # futhark 2015-06-03 10:17
Condi shouldn't get a pass, nor should any of the neocons working in the White House and Pentagon in 2001-2004 who participated in planning these atrocities and who told baldfaced lies to promote them. An exhaustive list must run into dozens.
 
 
+6 # jcrafts 2015-06-03 07:07
Whenever articles like this one appear, it must be stated that the Demoncraps, with Killary in the lead, supported the war and were Bushite sycophants. Killary made a "mistake" and can never escape the reality that her horrible judgement aided in the deaths of God knows how many hundreds of thousands of people.She is unperturbed by this except insofar as it might impede her current lust for power, putting on spectacular display what an unremorseful sociopath she is.
 
 
+14 # REDPILLED 2015-06-03 07:45
Absolutely correct! BOTH corporate war parties are guilty of war crimes. Worse than torture is the illegal war of aggression against the people of Iraq. That is the supreme international crime according to the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunals.
 
 
+26 # Dongi 2015-06-03 07:13
Condi gets no pass from me. That witch should pay for her sins also.
 
 
+16 # MikeToo 2015-06-03 07:55
At Nuremberg in 1946, the International Tribunal brought the following charges against the Nazis:
1. Crimes against Peace;
2. War Crimes;
3. Crimes against Humanity.
I can see these characters sitting in the docket with Goering, Jodl, Streicher and the rest.
 
 
-21 # WaaDoo 2015-06-03 08:26
Charles Pierce shows his Marxist underbelly by diverting the lemmings from HRC's crimes. Why not go back to Nixon days and do a story there next?

Useless writing and uninforming....
HRC, Edwards, PUTZUS as a senator, and John Kerry ALL had the same intel and approved the Bush/Cheney actions.
 
 
+10 # reiverpacific 2015-06-03 11:22
Quoting WaaDoo:
Charles Pierce shows his Marxist underbelly by diverting the lemmings from HRC's crimes. Why not go back to Nixon days and do a story there next?

Useless writing and uninforming....
HRC, Edwards, PUTZUS as a senator, and John Kerry ALL had the same intel and approved the Bush/Cheney actions.


There you go again "Yahoo" 'cept you're a bit late today.
Scared of the daylight if you sleep in are you
You really are a useless coward-fink, who'd be happy in Bush's criminal compound but they'd just despise you and kick you out.
Pah!
 
 
+5 # cymricmorty 2015-06-04 13:29
You're such a deluded libertarian that you wouldn't know a Marxist if one walked up and bit you.
 
 
+5 # Johnny 2015-06-03 09:15
The desperation of so many writers on this list to give the neocons Obomber and Clinton a free pass for the very crimes the neocon Republicans committed shows the great power over public opinion that comes from the neocons' monopoly of the mass media. They assure us, "There are bad apples in the other party, but the system is sound, and our faction is good."
 
 
+2 # wrknight 2015-06-03 11:06
Quoting Johnny:
The desperation of so many writers on this list to give the neocons Obomber and Clinton a free pass for the very crimes the neocon Republicans committed shows the great power over public opinion that comes from the neocons' monopoly of the mass media. They assure us, "There are bad apples in the other party, but the system is sound, and our faction is good."

Yes, there are also bad apples in the other party. But neither faction is good and the whole system is FUBAR!
 
 
+17 # tomtom 2015-06-03 11:41
I'm still plugging for someone to make up a "Wanted Poster", for Richard Cheney, listing his crimes, and make it available for all to copy and stick on walls and poles all over Every city. It would speed up the process of his arrest and sequesterring to The Hague. We can make it happen.
 
 
+6 # EmilyCragg 2015-06-03 15:14
So, when is the trial going to happen, and who is delegated to make it happen?

OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO SIT HERE AND DO NOTHING?

AND WHAT ABOUT THE PRIVATIZED CORPORATIONS RUNNING WARS, ISIS AND ALQEADA, WHICH ARE/WERE/ BOTH CIA OPERATIVES? TALK ABOUT INHUMAN!
 
 
+2 # BKnowswhitt2 2015-06-03 21:29
More you hate em the more you glorify them and make them Demi Gods .. they will have their judgement day .. as will we all .. that will be good enough for me .. unless of course they got back in power ....
 
 
+6 # old codger 2015-06-04 15:24
Scum always rises to the top of stagnant pool !
 
 
+4 # jpmarat 2015-06-05 00:53
Cheney CONTROLLED much of the intell release, via intimidation, lies, stove pipe, etc. The top 20 W officials should ALL be in prison for outing CIA undercover operative, Valerie Plame, and those in her networks that were killed or rendered useless. She was no clerk, but was continuing to do extremely high risk patriotic work overseas. She could have been assassinated after her outing. We could legitimately hang Rove, who was allowed to change & re-change his sworn testimony by the GOP special prosecutor, Dubya, Cheney, Rice, Wolfowitz, Rummy, and a dozen others, including Powell. Obama could have re-opened that inquiry. He, HRC, Kerry, Joe, Holder, and their lying police state minions really are sickening. They are "inbeded" w/Cheney.
 
 
+5 # Dongi 2015-06-05 01:36
I agree with you "jpmarat" that everyone involved with the Valerie Plame outing should be in prison. Maybe, the GOP special prosecutor should have done some jail time also. Dubya and co provided the nation with an incredibly persuasive example of their own criminal ineptitude. How dumb can one get? Here's hoping they screw up their flight to Paraguay.
 

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