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Pennacchia writes: "The First Circuit Court of Appeals has denied Pastor Scott Lively’s petition to have a crimes against humanity lawsuit against him dropped. The anti-gay pastor will stand trial in a federal court in Massachusetts for his part in crafting Uganda’s notorious Anti-Homosexuality Act, popularly known as the 'Kill the Gays' bill."

Pastor Scott Lively. (photo: Death and Taxes Magazine)
Pastor Scott Lively. (photo: Death and Taxes Magazine)


American Who Helped Craft Uganda's "Kill the Gays" Bill to Be Tried for Crimes Against Humanity

By Robyn Pennacchia, Death and Taxes Magazine

08 December 14

 

he First Circuit Court of Appeals has denied Pastor Scott Lively’s petition to have a crimes against humanity lawsuit against him dropped.

The anti-gay pastor will stand trial in a federal court in Massachusetts for his part in crafting Uganda’s notorious Anti-Homosexuality Act, popularly known as the “Kill the Gays” bill. The bill was largely the product of a workshop held in Uganda by Lively and two other american anti-gay activists, focused on “how to make gay people straight, how gay men often sodomized teenage boys and how ‘the gay movement is an evil institution’ whose goal is ‘to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity.”

In spite of the pending suit and national condemnation for his actions, Lively has not backed down. Earlier this week, during an appearance on “Trunews,” he stated that homosexuality was worse than mass murder, because it was to blame for Noah’s flood.


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+33 # jon 2014-12-08 10:15
"because it was to blame for Noah’s flood."

Has anybody asked him how he knows that?
 
 
+10 # reiverpacific 2014-12-08 13:32
Quoting jon:
"because it was to blame for Noah’s flood."

Has anybody asked him how he knows that?


He probably "Speaks in tongues" and has visions of animals going in two-by-two to a bloody great boat!
 
 
+33 # angelfish 2014-12-08 10:22
The "Pastor" should reflect on the old Biblical passage, "As ye sow, so also shall ye reap".
 
 
0 # RLF 2014-12-18 07:18
These asshole christians ( I can't put it in print small enough!) don't give a damn about the bible or christianity... they are only an excuse. They know the real truth. Seems to me this is one of the deadly sins.
 
 
+51 # Gnome de Pluehm 2014-12-08 10:30
Dollar to a doughnut says he has homosexual urges that frighten him
 
 
+26 # Jim Rocket 2014-12-08 10:58
I've seen the documentary "God Loves Uganda" which is all about this. Many of the church's workers are obviously closeted gays. It's also significant that the pastor of the local Ugandan church allied with these people lives in a starter palace - just like Jesus taught us.

It does seem to be the case where the people making the biggest noise about the "homosexual agenda" are in the closet themselves...ma inly because no one else cares that much about the issue. I think that might be behind the "threat to marriage" thing. The only marriages threatened by open homosexuality are the phoney ones.
 
 
+13 # Radscal 2014-12-08 12:54
There's some strong evidence your supposition is correct.

First, we have seen MANY anti-gay "leaders" caught in the very act.

Then, we have the founding "Gay Conversion Therapy" group shutting down a couple years ago. When they closed shop, they admitted that they had not just a ZERO 'SUCCESS RATE" (that is, they never turned a gay straight)... but they actually had a NEGATIVE SUCCESS RATE.

That is, a number of their "therapists" actually came out as gay.

Closeted or self-denying gays actively trying to "convert" gay "sinners" is strong evidence you're correct in a wider way.
 
 
0 # RLF 2014-12-18 07:20
Kind of like that other Gay club...the Catholic Church!
 
 
+6 # reiverpacific 2014-12-08 13:30
Quoting Gnome de Pluehm:
Dollar to a doughnut says he has homosexual urges that frighten him


Funny, you remind me that my own late Dad, generally generous and tolerant, was pretty homophobic and HATED the British theatrical tendency to cross-dressing almost to the point of being unbalanced, in spite of a Lesbian Sis' in law, my late aunt who culturally raised me, as he did in Engineering and who taught me to openly honor my own feminine side, which most males possess varying measures of and which he disdained to recognize.
He of course, doted on his granddaughter who turned out to be a Lesbian and I often wonder if, were he still alive, would have allowed his natural love conquer his suppressed prejudice?
Well, we'll never know now but my wife and I often ruminate on this and thanks for bringing the speculative but highly probable eventuality up.
 
 
+13 # bpuharic 2014-12-08 10:48
Reminds me of comedian Lewis Black's observation about Christians and the OT. He said it's no surprise they get it wrong so often. It's not their book.
 
 
+20 # Kootenay Coyote 2014-12-08 10:51
‘…[Lively] stated that homosexuality was worse than mass murder, because it was to blame for Noah’s flood.’
So not only his human biology is dreadful, but his scripture knowledge is feeble & his murderous policy is beastly. Some Pastor…unless it’s the Church of Raving Idiocy.
 
 
+4 # FLAK88 2014-12-08 11:22
What to do with a guys like this? Closest thing I can come up with is the Nuremberg War trials. Either string'em up or give 'em a life sentence.
 
 
+25 # reiverpacific 2014-12-08 11:23
This guy was aided and abetted -and no doubt funded- by the Capitol Hill "C" Street "Fellowship" or "Family" lodging house for fundamentalist evangelical, mostly TeaThuglican Senators and Congress Critters (many discovered to be screwing around, like John Ensign R-Nevada), registered as a Church so they can provide low rates.
Ref' http://www.salon.com/2009/07/21/c_street/, and Jeff Sharlet's insider-witness book "The Family", for more and a comprehensive list of residents and founders WHO SHOULD ALSO BE ON TRIAL as part of these events, as they were losing the anti-LGBT fight at home.
They went on several trips to Uganda to foment this deadly legislation and manipulate the Prime Minister, formerly ambivalent on the subject, and to stir up homophobia in a
vulnerable nation, ending up with David Bahati authoring the infamous bill in the Ugandan Parliament that calls for gay people to face life imprisonment or, in some cases, execution if they are convicted of having practiced homosexuality.
Rachel Maddow shredded and exposed Bahati on her show a couple of years ago.
He's also a member of "The Family", which also holds regular "Prayer Breakfasts" in and around the Capitol, one enthusiastic and regular attendee being Hillary Clinton, for those of you who favor her as next President.
They should all be hauled up before the Hague, not just tried here. Their very 74-year presence and activism in the halls of power should be an embarrassment to any patriotic American!
 
 
+2 # FLAK88 2014-12-08 17:02
Clinton is a champion chameleon; will go to any source for any vote. Voted for the Iraq war in '03 and has very close ties with Monsanto and the GMO industry. Loves car insurance companies and would support a return to the double nickel in order to help them reap more profits from traffic stops (speeding tickets).
 
 
+20 # Henry 2014-12-08 11:27
This guy is going to be tried for Crimes Against Humanity but Bush, et. al., are not?! Wow, we are SO politically correct.

NOT.
 
 
0 # arquebus 2014-12-08 12:49
I can understand why someone might be opposed to gay marriage, but never could figure out why anyone should worry about who sucks what.
 
 
+4 # reiverpacific 2014-12-08 13:16
Quoting arquebus:
I can understand why someone might be opposed to gay marriage, but never could figure out why anyone should worry about who sucks what.

As the proud father of a recently-marrie d lesbian daughter, I find that flippant, inconsiderate and mean-spirited comment most offensive -and I'm pretty hard to offend these day!
Keep y'r out-dated belligerence to y'rself and perhaps a close circle of similarly mindless friends, if you have any!
I'm beginning to consider moving you from "Conservative" to "Reactionary" category!
 
 
-2 # arquebus 2014-12-08 17:00
Sorry.....I just don't believe in gay marriage. Left to me, the state would no longer be involved with the sacrament of marriage...anyo ne who wants that bundle of rights we have attached to the sacrament would register their relationship with a public office. If they also want a religious recognition, they could go to the church of their choice. By the way, that is the way they do it in most of Europe--note that G. Clooney when he recently read had both a civil and religious ceremony. Now, if that offends you.....so be it.
 
 
+6 # tomtom 2014-12-08 12:55
He hates love and he loves hate. It seems he needs psychiatric care, more than "Christian" punishment. But, his activities/poli cies need to be stopped, immediately, here and Uganda.
 
 
+3 # PeacefulGarden 2014-12-08 15:19
He is engaged in the age old religious experience of creating myth from fear. I think there is a place on the DNA genetic coding whatever-thinga majig that expresses this in its environment.

This is no different than me writing a law about banning squirrels in backyards because they are plotting a take over of Jesus's place in our hearts. It is American Crazzzzzzy!
 
 
+3 # bhndr 2014-12-08 15:52
I am so very glad that this man should be held responsible for his actions and his vitriol towards a specific population. His intentions have always been clear and now his behaviors and actions shall be held to the proper standards. It is fine to have andf hold your beliefs, it is fine to speak and publish your beliefs, the moment that you step across the line is when you try to install your beliefs into civil legality. That then forces others to adhere to your particular religious beliefs which is completely against any rational definition of personal rights.

This man and his compatriots have already been responsible for a number of deaths due to the fabrications and the blatant lies that Mr. Lively has been spreading as if they were the truth. AND now he shall face justice for them. Its about time that he learn that there are consequences for his actions and that he cannot hide behind the first amendment any longer.
 
 
-2 # MidwesTom 2014-12-08 21:08
Why is a Massachusetts court hearing a case about actions in Uganda?

I realize that prosecuting this guy is the moral thing to do, but this is an example of why much of the rest of the world hates us, we inject ourselves into other countries activities. Are the rapist in India going to tried in NY? We should be encouraging other countries to solve their own problems without us trying to do it for them
 
 
0 # elizabethblock 2014-12-10 17:07
True ... but this man is an American.
 
 
0 # elizabethblock 2014-12-10 17:10
BTW: Not really relevant, but people like this guy believe that homosexual behaviour is unknown among (other) animals. Not true. It has been observed in 400 species, and counting. See Anne Innis Dagg, "Pursuing Giraffe" (I think that was the title).
I myself have seen two male Mallard Ducks who were clearly a mated pair.
 
 
0 # PastorScott 2014-12-11 01:36
Unfortunately, the movement that Mr. Lively helps lead is far more substantial and substantively purposed than his specific role in Uganda's "kill the Gays" law. For the last 40 years independent church and denominational representatives have worked through groups like the Institute for Religion and Democracy (IRD) and have raised spent in excess of $75 million fanning the flames of religious intolerance and inciting both vigilante and civil violence against LGBT persons. The effort has been concerted and strategic in its efforts to win abroad what they have already lost at home. In the United Methodist Church for instance, the 2012 General (worldwide) Conference officially enfranchised large national churches (Central Conferences) in Africa, Asia, Latin America, and Africa (90% financed with US dollars). At the opening gavel these new voters held 37% of the GC votes. Joining with 26% from the SouthEast U.S. they successfully shutdown 40 years of slow and steady progress toward full inclusion of LGBT folks in the life and ministry of the UMC. Hate spawned cash for doctrinaire church's aligned with corrupt local governments breeds hate spewing converts who will systematically destroy the now wavering - if not silenced - historically progressive voice of American Protestantism. People can agree or disagree about whether or not that is a good thing, but that's what's happening while we sputter about Lively's show trial for "Crimes Against Humanity,"
 

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