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Pierce writes: "You and the rest of your cowardly cohort helped prepare the ground for the worst geopolitical mistake the country has made in 30 years."

William Kristol. (photo: Fox News)
William Kristol. (photo: Fox News)

Bill Kristol Rant

By Charles Pierce, Esquire

19 March 14


ust shut up and go away.

Can Republicans do no better than shamefully to emulate Somerset and Obama ("I assure you nobody ends up being more war-weary than me")? Will no brave leader step forward to honorably awaken us from our unworthy sleep?

Blow me, you monstrous, bloodthirsty fraud, you silly, stupid chickenhawk motherfker who plays army man with the children of people who are so much better than you are, and who would feed innocent civilians in lands you will never visit into your own personal meatgrinder to service your semi-annual martial erection. You and the rest of your cowardly cohort helped prepare the ground for the worst geopolitical mistake the country has made in 30 years. You fought the battle of the Green Rooms and the think tanks while other people's sons and daughters died for your fantasy of how the world would work if you really were the pimply, adolescent Zeus you see when you look in the mirror every morning. The country does not need you lectures any more. The country does not need your counsel. The country does not need your advice. And, as sure as human beings have become dead because of your lectures, and counsel, and advice, human beings about whom you otherwise care nothing, the country does not need your hectoring that it has become insufficiently bellicose to fulfill your newest, blood-drenched fantasies. Even here, even now, you hide behind the skirts of a woman from Indiana who, while I believe her to be wrong, seems to be genuine in her beliefs. You are unworthy of her intellectual camouflage. You should be driven from polite society, consigned to an ideological Molokai so you can no longer infect the rest of us. People should shun you. You should wear the bell for the rest of your miserable days. your social media marketing partner


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+253 # dsepeczi 2014-03-19 12:23
Why is Bill Kristol even on TV anymore ? This so-called "expert" has gotten it WRONG every time !!! Funny how his first response to everything is to "go to war" but he avoided military service during the Vietnam War. I guess war's only good if he doesn't have to fight in one. God, I hate that asshole as much as the writer of this article does !
+173 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2014-03-19 17:40
A few weeks ago, he was on Bill Maher's Show. Bill M. asked him "have you ever met a war you didn't like?" Kristol was blown away. The look on Kristol's face-worth a million $. Bill Maher to Kristol, "you were wrong no less than three times about the Iraq war." Bill M. then stated to Kristol those three biggest horrible lies. This one in particular, "when the weapons of mass destruction are found, Bush and Cheney will be vindicated." Kristol died in his seat. Unfortunately, it was a temporary death. You know Kristol will be around for a long time. The "Merchants Of Death" news outlet won't let him go away.
+99 # soularddave 2014-03-19 18:30
I think its important to have his name brought up and included with the better known ones who lied to us into war on TV. Everything bad that can be said about someone is well deserved by this PNAC slimeball who dreamed us into war. What can you say about a guy who wishes such unwarranted, but massive, horrible, painful death on a people who mostly never caused us any trouble. He threw our own kids into his meat grinder too, then turned his back, looking to the future for another war.
-19 # RobertMStahl 2014-03-20 07:33
Why is Obama not in this same framework? "All civilizations end in stereotype," said the late Gregory Bateson, which is racism in short also known as blood thirst, and Rudolf Steiner said the worst evil in all of time will be a 50/50 proposition. Considering real journalists, like what PCR has to say about Guantanamo today and BO's 50/50 proposition, via Jeffrey St. Clair, Then, there is Diana West, Arthur Silber, Tarzie, Chris Floyd, Chris Hedges, and Nick Turse, not 50/50 propositions. As for the old guard changing to something for the commonwealth, where is Indira Singh? Do you think the symmetrical component of the electronic age should be ignored so that Stratfor can have it to themselves, or the Security [sic] State?
+77 # dipierro4 2014-03-19 19:36
What's troubling is not only how wrong and phony he is, but the fact that he still is such an important voice in out discourse.

If we were a good, wise people, his kind would not even exist, because conduct like his would bring at least universal ridicule, and perhaps total shunning and ostracism from all society, maybe even from one's own family.
+21 # dipierro4 2014-03-19 19:50
Sorry. I meant "... an important voice in OUR discourse."
+10 # Caliban 2014-03-20 01:01
No apologies needed. You were right the first time.
+10 # JSRaleigh 2014-03-20 08:49
Quoting dipierro4:
Sorry. I meant "... an important voice in OUR discourse."

He's of no importance in *MY* discourse. ... less than what the neighbor's dog left on my front walk this morning.

And just as likely to clean up after himself.
+14 # bmiluski 2014-03-20 10:33
He's an important voice because Rupert Murdock wants him to be. He is the neo-cons mouthpiece and no matter how wrong he is, as long as he keeps mouthing what the neo-cons want him to mouth he'll be with us until the neo-cons no longer need him.
+16 # Buddha 2014-03-20 09:55
Notice that basically every single thing Kristol said on Maher was a huge strawman argument? He came across like a complete moron, which I guess he really is. It made me wish that construction of strawman arguments would actually employ Americans and count as infrastructure development!
+190 # RMDC 2014-03-19 15:59
Well said, Charles Pierce. Kristol is just as you say -- a worthless motherfucker whose only wish for the world is death and destruction. He makes a living hating people he's never met.
+133 # 2014-03-19 16:35

In service to Exon, BP, Shell, etc.

Everybody knows it, but we keep doing it!
+21 # Vardoz 2014-03-19 21:24
Not we - they and we can speak out.
+105 # Floe 2014-03-19 16:39
Human detritus is what I can Bill Kristol. I agree that he and those who endanger humanity by their ideology ought to be shunned by society. Humiliation and ostracism are the only weapons of the peaceful.
-174 # tomslockett 2014-03-19 16:41
While I strongly disagree with just about every word that comes out of Bill Kristol's mouth, this article says, sadly, more about author Charles Pierce than his intended victim. It is not worthy of being published by Esquire or RSN. It is disappointing and reflects badly on the author and both publications that deigned to carry it.
+179 # tedrey 2014-03-19 17:04
I'm afraid I disagree. Usually I believe in civility, but there are times that one has to call out a slime mold for what it is.
-16 # tomslockett 2014-03-19 20:43
Quoting tedrey:
I'm afraid I disagree. Usually I believe in civility, but there are times that one has to call out a slime mold for what it is.

Problem with that approach is where do you draw the line in such a rich minefield? 74% of US casualties in Afghanistan came after President Obama sided with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and increased/"surg ed" troops there over the objections of Secretary of Defense Robert Gates. President Obama, less than 6 months ago, asked Congress to approve launching an attack on another Middle East country, Syria, then backed down when the British parliament rejected it and it tanked in US polls. Are the people who actually carried out the policies you oppose excused from the vitriol you permit on the despicable Mr. Kristol? I fear expletives and profanity would soon become ubiquitous under your and Mr. Pierce's new ground rules.
+18 # Reductio Ad Absurdum 2014-03-19 22:07
Your false equivalency is predicated on events as profoundly different as, hmmm, let me think, oh yeah — IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN AND SYRIA!
+7 # RickMaart 2014-03-20 08:53
Could the Syrian compromise with Putin be a trade for Crimea? Global players don't really care, do they?
+16 # Caliban 2014-03-20 01:17
Not exactly a fair assessment of Pierce's rhetoric or Obama's actions.

The concept of the "surge" gained popularity with the military after it was said to have eased the main US exit, so it was tried in Afghanistan for the same reason. Did it work? Not so well. The mobile Taliban are much harder to pin down than Saddam's troops were.

However, since the Afghanistan surge is also a prologue to withdrawal, I expect us to be out on schedule just as in Iraq. So the broad movement of Obama's policy is towards peace--for which McCain, Kristol, and suchlike clowns call him a coward and thus well deserve Pierce's hard language.

In the case of Syria, of course, there was no US attack, but even if there had been it would have been air attacks on military bases. Personally, I think Obama's threats were head fakes to bring Putin out to save Syria's Russian-built air force. And it worked; Putin hurries in, and Assad's chemical weapons are gone without a shot fired.
+7 # jganeles 2014-03-20 07:01
I thought that Gate's 'objections' re: the surge was that it wasn't as large as the military wanted it to be- not that he didn't want a surge to happen-he wanted it to be almost twice the size Obama ultimately ordered.
+90 # wrknight 2014-03-19 18:30
There are times when the use of expletives and profanity is appropriate. This is one of them.

That was beautiful. Thanks Charles.
-20 # dipierro4 2014-03-19 19:46
I partly agree with tomslockett. My opinion of Mr. Kristol is low, perhaps beyond my ability to expesss, and I fear him because he has influence. But Mr. Pierce, who is capable of much, does not help his (and my) cause by writing in this way. I appreciate his anger, but this writing seems more than anything to lower his own stature.
+56 # reiverpacific 2014-03-19 20:09
Quoting tomslockett:
While I strongly disagree with just about every word that comes out of Bill Kristol's mouth, this article says, sadly, more about author Charles Pierce than his intended victim. It is not worthy of being published by Esquire or RSN. It is disappointing and reflects badly on the author and both publications that deigned to carry it.

Get off'n yer high horse and enjoy a good, ribald "FUCK 'EM" once in a while.
Venting is good for the soul and allows the orifices to relax.
After all, the other side are the first to rake muck -as much as they can get away with, even where there is none and America has enough "Idiotocracy" followers to lap it up, which is the only reason they are still around. I mean, his muck needs no searching for; -we're still deep in it ourselves, even the non-cannon-fodd er.
+55 # Farafalla 2014-03-19 20:30
If Bill Kristol does not arouse a passionate dislike in you for his role in our country, then you don't really disagree with him. Do you really think one should be polite with an architect of ruin? Even Albert Speer went to prison. Had Obama investigated the war crimes of the Bush Cheney regime, we would know just how much this fascist deserves to hang.
+12 # bmiluski 2014-03-20 10:42
tomslockett.... .while I understand your point I also understand the anger and frustration of the author. After all kristol and his ilk, advocate the death and maiming of countless American men and women.
-121 # 2014-03-19 16:52
Thoughtful discourse is not what Charles Pierce engages in ... any more that Bill Kristol, does.
+89 # perkinsej 2014-03-19 16:55
I agree with the others. The mandatre to be nice and polite in your responses format should go out the window when it comes to Adolf, Uncle Joe, and Kristol.
+87 # deadhead 2014-03-19 17:26
This asshole was on Maher (don't ask why Bill Maher hosts these fascists- Kristof Issa, Coulter) actually calling bullshit on Maher ... and ranting the remainder of the show. He needs to be put down early and often. It's sickening the lack of remorse and reflection from which he proudly suffers, with the blood of so many brave Americans on his hands. The fact that they have airtime and column inches at all is a breathtaking injustice.
+118 # alnbarthel 2014-03-19 17:30
Why would anyone be civil to someone who wants to send your own children to die in a war that he would never fight?
+84 # Glen 2014-03-19 17:40
Interesting how Bill Kristol twisted his father's efforts within the Republican/cons ervative party into something totally outside the government, not to mention the law. Those who signed on with this man and his policies, as well as the PNAC are all public domain and easily researched. They truly are evil, as a famous comedian once described Dick Cheney.

All of us are within the bounds of civility even when damning all of them.
+59 # curmudgeon 2014-03-19 17:51
Not quite ...
the PNAC document online underwent revision online when Condy baby was nominated for SecState. The comment about the American public needing a 'Pearl Harbor-like' event to get them behind the PNAC was originally a quote from her..and 1 or 2 other references to her.

All were scrubbed and her name deleted.

+20 # Jim Young 2014-03-19 19:21
The Manchurian Candidate was pulled from distribution, too, when the all too real fate of JFK, made it seem less implausible.
+7 # Glen 2014-03-20 07:15
The movie was remade. The old movie was in the line-up on one of the movie channels a few weeks ago.

So much time has past that younger folks don't make the connection.
+9 # Glen 2014-03-20 07:13
That's true, curmudgeon. I have pretty much left that all behind because of the anger I was harboring during George W.'s first 4 years. I have 3 or 4 boxes of research and books that will go to progeny to explain the culmination of corruption in the U.S. and the ulterior motives of the most powerful.

Most people have never read the PNAC or the Patriot Act, much less done any amount of research. That's why participating in a forum such as this is good for all the rest of us. Your correction concerning Condoleza is a good example.
-4 # Jim Young 2014-03-20 23:59
Quoting Glen:
...I have 3 or 4 boxes of research and books that will go to progeny to explain the culmination of corruption in the U.S. and the ulterior motives of the most powerful.

Most people have never read the PNAC or the Patriot Act, much less done any amount of research...

Have you gathered much on the International Republican Institute? I believe the CIA was barred from running propaganda or disinformation campaigns in the US, but I'm not sure about the IRI. From what little I've seen on their "polls" and "educational" political projects overseas, they seemed to emulate Leninist tactics regarding propaganda, provocateurs, and at least some "soft" sabotage, though more in favor of corporate interests, than the Democratic National Institute for International Relations (DNI) as another leg of the Reagan's National Endowment for "Democracy" (NED). I'd be interested in how close PNAC and IRI are linked (and I think the idea that they are the newer actors for what the CIA used to do more of).
-2 # Glen 2014-03-21 13:56
Hmmm. Jim, you have posed an interesting subject and question. You are probably right about the connections and links. Reagans people gathered information on U.S. citizens and world populations and learned well how to divide them. The CIA need not be involved due to their involvement in destabilizing countries and ousting leaders.

Yes, any organization developed through the Democrats or Republicans are linked. They are two sides to the same coin and at times it would appear they are as amoebas, constantly flexing and wobbling and absorbing and morphing. And appearances deceive even the best of citizens.
+103 # angelfish 2014-03-19 17:43
I believe Mr. Pierce is right about Kristol and all the other Right-Wing "Pundits" who Cheer for War as long as OTHER people have to fight and die in it! WHERE is the "Main Stream" Press in holding ANY of them accountable for Cheerleading the Bush/Cheney Debacle? Accountability, as well as Justice, DIED in this Country a long time ago, along with "American Exceptionalism" .
0 # dsepeczi 2014-04-08 11:16
Quoting angelfish:
I believe Mr. Pierce is right about Kristol and all the other Right-Wing "Pundits" who Cheer for War as long as OTHER people have to fight and die in it! WHERE is the "Main Stream" Press in holding ANY of them accountable for Cheerleading the Bush/Cheney Debacle? Accountability, as well as Justice, DIED in this Country a long time ago, along with "American Exceptionalism".

The Mainstream media is quiet about the Right-Wing pundits because ... the mainstream press was cheerleading us all into Iraq right with them.
+46 # curmudgeon 2014-03-19 17:47
Well said...quite eloquent...

And so true.....
+49 # Rich Austin 2014-03-19 17:51
C'mon Charles, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel about Herr Kristol.

(Really though...good on ya'. F#&% 'em all but six.)
+43 # RMolineaux 2014-03-19 17:53
Right on!, Charles. I'm with you 100 percent.
+64 # 2014-03-19 17:58
Sent to Kristol at The Weekly Standard. Not holding my breath for a reply:

OK then- let's only go to war if we can agree on a top marginal rate of 99% on everybody making over a million dollars. A 100% estate tax over 10 million dollars.
You get that and THEN talk about war weary. I want you and the rest of your rich friends to have "some skin in the game" this time.

How real is your war fever? Show the rest of us who have to do the fighting and the bleeding and the dying how much YOU are willing to commit yourselves to the great war purpose you hunger for.
+43 # angryspittle 2014-03-19 18:13
I would be a bazillionaire had I only bet against Bloody Bill for the past 30 years. Has this fuckhead ever been right?
+60 # lobdillj 2014-03-19 18:16
Why get mad at this warmonger? Wouldn't it be more useful to get mad at the elected officials who do his bidding? Who the hell do they think he is? Everyone knows he's the founder and head of PNAC, which is a traitorous group if you think the US Constitution means anthing.
+41 # RCW 2014-03-19 18:19
Bravo, Charles. Genuinely forceful and almost worthy of Shakespeare!
+41 # walt 2014-03-19 18:29
Amen to that.

Kristol has one agenda and the is the agenda of the neocons and his Israel Lobby. They want the USA to continue fighting for their causes. We pay. We lose sons and daughters. And the likes of this douche bag give nothing but cheers for the US Army.

Be sure that not a member of Kristol's family is in the military!

Wake up, America.
+42 # reiverpacific 2014-03-19 18:30
If we MUST be forced to read a piece about this nonentity, might I suggest a commemorative day called "Kristolnacht", marked by burning an effigy (or the real thing) of this piece of human detritus, as Guy Fawkes is remembered every 5th November in the UK for trying to blow up the Houses of Parliament.
At least Fawkes and his cohorts were prepared to do the deed themselves, unlike these "sleekit, coorin' timorous beasties", of whom Cheney is another of these "Project for a new American Century" slugs who should be shovelin' shit in the filthiest recesses of Abu Grahib.
Anybody got an appropriate date for "Kristolnacht"?
+25 # Jim Young 2014-03-19 19:31
Quoting reiverpacific:
...Anybody got an appropriate date for "Kristolnacht"?

How about September 12, the day PNAC thought they saw an opportunity to go after Iraq, no matter what sense that made.

Another would be the day (as yet unknown to me) when they changed the name from "Operation Iraqi Liberation" (OIL), to "Operation Iraqi Freedom" (OIF).

P.S. As we seem to be considering blocking travel by some Russians over Crimea, perhaps the civilized world that sees the results of PNAC and the State Department/USAI D/NED/IRI skulduggery should consider blocking travel of Kristol, Cheney, and as many of the others in those organizations, as we block.
+15 # Farafalla 2014-03-19 20:36
This is an excellent idea. Block their travel and close their bank accounts.
+4 # jcdav 2014-03-20 21:26
seems to me that W & Chaney do not travel outside US ..The court in Hague has warrants for them.
+18 # Lowflyin Lolana 2014-03-19 20:42
When Ari Fleischer appeared on TV with graphic letters spelling out OIL (Operation Iraqi Liberation) I had a very bad feeling that someone with a very nasty sense of humor was pulling some very evil strings, somewhere. Everyone told me I was paranoid, though.
+14 # listentome 2014-03-19 18:31
He rants while we vent. He's in the spotlight so he wins.
+36 # scottyp 2014-03-19 18:41
Actually, the only problems to be found in Mr. Pierce's rant are the occasional grammatical error and/or spelling transgression. Content-wise he is 100% correct in his assessment of Bill Kristol. He is a narcissistic asshole. Why does anyone pay any attention to him? Enough already!
+24 # Pikewich 2014-03-19 19:26
Bill Kristol and the worthless tv garbage WILL go away if we just stop watching it.

Jon Stewart, Colbert are worth watching. And maybe a few others.

So, sorry to say, I missed the tv episode being referred to here, and do not feel like I missed anything worthwhile.
+14 # Shorey13 2014-03-19 19:31
Free Speech was a pretty good idea when only a handful of Americans could even read, and when media were in their infancy. If you want your grandchildren to have a world worth living in, we have to find a way to muzzle Kristol and his ilk. The Founders would be appalled if they knew what we have done with their well considered idea of a limited franchise and limited government. Per Socrates, the fatal fallacy in democracy is that all citizens are equally capable of self-government . The idiots that watch Fox News should not be allowed to vote. Last week, The Economist wrote a perfect obituary for democracy, It is failing everywhere. My question, as always is: How bad does it have to get?
+21 # Archie1954 2014-03-19 19:39
The same goes for the rest of the warmongering right wing extremist neocons. They are sociopaths and psychotics preaching hate and horror everywhere they go. I think most of the World is sick to death (no pun intended) of their treacherous rants.
-20 # Citizen Mike 2014-03-19 20:06
I have lost my patience with Pierce's self-indulgent snide and snarky gonzo journalism. How did this hack ever get onto the staff of Esquire?

Never mind that I agree with his opinions or that he agrees with mine. Pierce has not ever informed me of anything new, as does, for example, Taibbi.

I read guys like Kristol to find out what the forces of evil are saying this week. Important to keep tabs on them.

All Pierce knows how to do is sling insults like a political Don Rickles. Looks to me like he has fallen into the mirror and drowned.

I think Pierce should just shut up and go away.
+6 # Lowflyin Lolana 2014-03-19 20:44
If you read guys like Kristol on a regular basis, perhaps you agree with them more than you think.
+13 # Nosir 2014-03-19 20:31
Retaliate by repealing citizens United and remove the multinational company influence through bogus campaign PAC funding and regain control of Congress through campaign reform.

Then vote to have multinational corporations pay taxes on their profits within the country and their expatriated money brought in from the hinderlands.

Call your congressmen and meet with them or their legislative assistants to demand banks pay taxes on their derivative profits along with demanding corporations pay income taxes to the tune of trillions of dollars, demand that congress and the states repeal Citizens United and take back the democratic process.
+17 # bingers 2014-03-19 20:41
Then vote to have the SCOTUS 5 hanged for treason.
+15 # Terrapin 2014-03-19 20:49
Fuck You, Bill Kristol, and the horse you rode in on.
You don't even have the decency to be an genuine American Citizen. Holding Israeli citizenship, and the position of "influence" you have been placed into, makes you a Israel agent in the body politic of the the United States of America.
You are nothing but an infiltrator, an Agent Provocateur, a fucking WORMTONGUE ... a Useful Idiot.
+1 # RickMaart 2014-03-20 09:01
Is this true? Is he an Israeli Citizen? How do you know that? I agree with you if he is an Israeli and not from the USA. A fact check on this would be helpful to me.
+16 # womyn 2014-03-19 22:47
Mr. Kristol, President Eisenhower warned us about the Military Industrial Complex and vile men like you. Do the US a big favor, get your PNAC-ified chicken-hawk head out of your "where-the-sun- doesn't shine!" You are an arrogant man, you never served in the military, nor any of the wars you personally promoted and supported. But you love to play at war on the side lines, drinking your beer and scoffing down chicken-hawk-wi ng, thus sending millions of innocent civilians and soldiers to their deaths.

I am not one of your fools. Prior to 9-11, I read the Project for a New American Century, of which you were a primary signatory. PNAC became Bush’s blueprint for the preemptive unnecessary illegal preemptive wars the US perpetuated in the Middle East. Under the guise of fighting terrorism, you and your fellow imperialist hegemonic neo-cons and compliant Republicrats, seated on both sides of the Congress’ fence, successfully perpetrated these wars just to gain full control of rich oil reserves.
Billy-boy, do Americans and the world a big favor, please shut your lying hegemonic warmongering mouth! You've already caused enormous harm to the citizens of our world!
+15 # X Dane 2014-03-20 00:08
Kristol is so dangerous, because he has such an innocent looking face, and people may not realize the poison he is pouring out. By the way, he was the one who pushed Sarah Palin on the McCain team. He didn't give a damn, that he was pushing a total incompetent on the country.

Maybe he thought that she could easily manipulated if McCain died
+10 # brenda 2014-03-20 02:00
Someone needs to shove a very big studio microphone up William Kristol's ass.
+12 # jsluka 2014-03-20 02:11
Dear Brenda - It won't fit because it's already filled with his head.
+15 # pagrad 2014-03-20 02:52
In case you haven't noticed, the uneducated, unthinking American voter, voted for the Bush/Chaney Republican Administration twice. Who is at fault here; the incompetent or those who put these greedy idiots in power?
+10 # Guy 2014-03-20 05:30
Yes ,people need to wake up big time and it is comments like on this forum that give me hope.
We need to support the truth organizations like RSN.
Eventually we will turn things around.We must,the alternative is a world I don't want to live in.
+9 # opinionaire 2014-03-20 10:19
Quoting pagrad:
In case you haven't noticed, the uneducated, unthinking American voter, voted for the Bush/Chaney Republican Administration twice. Who is at fault here; the incompetent or those who put these greedy idiots in power?

Bush/Cheney were elected once-which is shameful, particularly since it was the second round, and plenty of evidence was available that this was a spectacularly bad idea. They were "awarded" their positions by SCOTUS on the first round.
+6 # ljslotnick 2014-03-20 06:50
Yes, the dogs of war often compel Obama to offer what Caliban referred to as "head fakes." These are nods to hardliners, and are calculated in order to minimize the trashing he will automatically take on Fox News -- sadly, the omnipresent media outlet. In fact, you're witnessing it right now regarding Ukraine, Crimea and Russia. Obama has larger and more important goals regarding Russian cooperation regarding Syria and Iran. The US is not going to send troops to this part of the world, no matter what the urgings of the chickenhawks. It's not our fight.
+7 # puppets 2014-03-20 07:19
IMHO, he's a psychopath. Callous, lack of empathy for others, the world revolves around him, lack of remorse or guilt, shallow emotional range and failure to take responsibility for his own actions. If they're not manipulating, they're not happy. How anyone could respect any media that glorifies such a person is beyond me.
+3 # Urbancurmudgeon 2014-03-20 07:24
Yeah, but do you like him?
+1 # puppets 2014-03-20 07:31
Are you asking me? Lordy, NO! Do you?
-19 # 2014-03-20 07:41
RSN states before the comments section:
"We are concerned about a recent drift towards vitriol"
then RSN publishes the vitriol of Charles Pierce of Esquire? Holy Cow !!

Pierce needs to get professional psychiatric help.
+4 # fenox 2014-03-20 08:19
Who profit from the crime ( the Ukraine crisis) ?
Because it derailed the Iran talks.
Ukraine was as such important for Kristoll and the
NED neocons , who established 65 NGO's in Ukraine to destabilize the country.
And Mrs Nuland , civil servant of the State department , happens to be the wife of Robert Kagan.
Does that ring a bell?
0 # RickMaart 2014-03-20 09:04
No, it doesn't. Can you explain?
+3 # fenox 2014-03-20 09:27
Robert Kagan is with William Kristoll the founder of the " Project for a new American century" ( see Google). With members like Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld,
Wolfowitz, Mac Cain. The idea was that through constant war and strong military, America could become the world's leader.' They started the Middle East wars under W Bush.
0 # puppets 2014-03-20 09:47
#fenox, do you know the name of the new organization that replaced the PNAC? I forget at the moment.
0 # fenox 2014-03-20 10:31
The FPI but they also work through NED.
0 # fenox 2014-03-20 10:37
Another important point : the NED is automatically each year financed through congress. A leftover from previous years.
+2 # fenox 2014-03-20 10:40
The NED destabilized Syria, and started in Venezuela recently.
+3 # fenox 2014-03-20 10:57
News out of Ukraine talk about Israeli ex military presence in Kiev to structure the 'revolution', they spoke Ukrainian language.
An Israeli ex Ukrainian multimillionair e business man arrived a few weeks ago to be nominated governor of part of Ukraine by the new government.
+1 # HerbR 2014-03-20 14:37
+3 # djrdcpt 2014-03-20 20:32
My first reaction - bite me!
Why did Putin invade Georgia during Bush II? he wasn't "weak" was he? He did nothing!
Obama, working with the other countries are using financial & other means - like canceling G8 in Sochi. Better than another war, in my opinion.
+1 # Suzy 2014-03-21 19:24
Would that Kristol might spare us the smarmy pleasantness
as he peddles the lives of our children for the ill-gotten gains
of those who co-inhabit his special level of hell.
+3 # moby doug 2014-03-22 10:27
95% of Americans are opposed to US MILITARY engagement over the Russian Crimea takeover. Practically everyone realizes that such a move would be insane. So who are the Repigs who are ranting about Obama being "weak" talking to? Their certifiably insane "base"?
0 # Dion Giles 2014-03-31 03:13
Military aggression against a population that is not itself engaged in aggression is the most dangerous and despicable of all crimes. Obeying a criminal order to set foot, armed and without its population's consent, in a country not itself engaged in aggression is as criminal as giving the order. Many (though far too few) German and Jap criminals (to say nothing of Ukrainian collaborators) got their necks justly stretched for it. Why then, is this crime called a "geopolitical mistake" and its perpetrators regarded as heroes? To save itself, the revolution the world needs, on the scale of the Western Enlightenment, is a moral and legal and historical one. It’s a responsibility for every human being, shorn of all traces of tribal solidarity.

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