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Mcduffee writes: "DARPA, the Pentagon's research agency, has recently revealed its plans to boost the Navy's response to threats in international waters by developing submerged unmanned platforms that can be deployed at a moment's notice."

 (graphic: DARPA)
(graphic: DARPA)

DARPA's Plan to Flood the Sea With Drones, Carrying More Drones

By Allen Mcduffee, Wired

14 September 2013


ARPA, the Pentagon's research agency, has recently revealed its plans to boost the Navy's response to threats in international waters by developing submerged unmanned platforms that can be deployed at a moment's notice.

Hydra, named after the serpent-like creature with many heads in Greek mythology, would create an undersea network of unmanned payloads and platforms to increase the capability and speed the response to threats like piracy, the rising number of ungoverned states, and sophisticated defenses at a time when the Pentagon is forced to make budget cuts. According to DARPA, the Hydra system "represents a cost effective way to add undersea capacity that can be tailored to support each mission" that would still allow the Navy to conduct special operations and contingency missions. In other words, the decreasing number of naval vessels can only be in one place at a time.

"The climate of budget austerity runs up against an uncertain security environment that includes natural disasters, piracy, ungoverned states, and the proliferation of sophisticated defense technologies," said Scott Littlefield, DARPA program manager, in a statement. "An unmanned technology infrastructure staged below the oceans' surface could relieve some of that resource strain and expand military capabilities in this increasingly challenging space."

The Hydra system is intended to be delivered in international waters by ships, submarines or aircraft with the integrative capability of communicating with manned and unmanned platforms for air, surface, and water operations.

Unlike the Upward Falling Payloads (UFPs) program DARPA announced in January that would submerge massive waterproof containers intended to store weapons, drones and supplies for years at a time, Hydra is a highly mobile platform that can be deployed for a few weeks or months in relatively shallow international waters.

"By separating capabilities from the platforms that deliver them, Hydra would enable naval forces to deliver those capabilities much faster and more cost-effectively wherever needed," said Littlefield. "It is envisioned to work across air, underwater, and surface operations, enabling all three to perform their missions better."

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+58 # bingers 2013-09-14 15:19
And who in God's name are we defending against?
+40 # davidh7426 2013-09-14 16:09
It isn't WE who are doing the defending Bingers...

It's THEY who are defending, against anybody who would dare to stand against them, dare to think of 'free speech', dare to think of freedom from rule by tyranny.

It's THEY who are defending, against US.
+2 # 2013-09-14 18:42
Sure it is the Obama type swooned by he machine sellers that is the agressor this past 3/4 century.
+11 # Mrcead 2013-09-15 08:21
That's deep and frighteningly accurate. This show of force is to instill fear and compliance in everyone without having to fire a shot if necessary.

Just like the workplace isn't it?
-4 # 2013-09-14 18:39
Against bankruptcy of the favored Corporate America war machine & chemical companies demise. God knows that and said "in my name save my war progeny", I sent a snake in Eden to impress that point, now I need drones on sea and skies to protect Amish from Islamish and Arabs from camel humpers. I'm sending in GMO's (God made organtomations) to finish the job.
+27 # tigerlille 2013-09-14 18:45
Quoting bingers:
And who in God's name are we defending against?

People who try to hijack the oil companies' plunder?

Because I'm pretty certain that the intent is not to protect the people of the U.S.

Totally nuts. War technology for the sake of war technology.
+15 # RHytonen 2013-09-14 22:38
Quoting bingers:
And who in God's name are we defending against?

Some bribing, corrupting contractor's fear of lower profits next quarter.
+10 # Phlippinout 2013-09-15 00:37
The US government and military, they are the biggest threats on the planet.
+3 # DakotaKid 2013-09-15 16:15
The big threat, the one that keeps the denizens of the Defense Department up at night, is the possibility that the American people will stop living in mortal fear of amorphous threats that exist only in the paranoid musings of right wing propagandists and, of course, defense contractors.
+41 # jayjay 2013-09-14 15:48
Bingers, it's really WHOM are we defending against, and the answer is.........who cares, as long as that f--king military-indust rial complex gets fed.
+3 # 2013-09-14 18:45
Listen to Jayjay he has the guts to tell it as it is. He'll be the next Brad Manning if we keep selling that 16% of Americans who get out of bed to vote, the 28mn who carry the majority vote over the other 282mn souls on US soil.
+27 # Mrcead 2013-09-14 16:10
So more paper Jihadists are attacking??? Are they using paper submarines now?
-1 # 2013-09-14 18:46
Yep their paper your drone-subs now to help the skydrones and robocops.
+5 # Liebermania 2013-09-14 16:22
We are really going off the f***ing deep
+27 # tedrey 2013-09-14 16:22
Like Antarctica and the moon, international waters are not the possession or domain of any given nation-state. If they are used as a staging area to threaten other nation-states, there is not yet anything in international law which would preclude their pre-emptive destruction by any state which feels thus threatened. And the rest of the world would cheer.
+4 # 2013-09-14 18:48
And God help any defender who sinks a USA submarine or Trade tower.
+44 # reiverpacific 2013-09-14 16:33
And of course it will have absolutely NO effect on the creatures -many of them a damn sight more intelligent than Homo Sapiens at least in it's more "developed" but not so smart manifestations- who were evolved by nature to live in the world's oceans and rivers.
Somebody should put a bomb of exploding, toxic laden salt water in the Pentagon, followed by a plague of stinging wasps, see how they like it!
Their damn sonar testing has already done so much damage but they're never happy (and never will be) are they!
-9 # 2013-09-14 18:32
Of Course Riverpacific as you say Drones are also "many of them a damn sight more intelligent than Homo" Sexual mummy's cry-babies of USMC. Thus they lost ALL 60+ wars since WW II and so the IAPA $2.6bn research needed a substitute for the field fights. USA doesn't have suicide bombers, or kamikaze pilots. Computer jockeys playing with their joy sticks sounds like an excellent substitute to pollute seas and skies and only touch land bases from safety of home 10,000 miles away, with A BUDDY CLOSE AND HANDY. Who knows they win something yet?
+5 # phrixus 2013-09-15 05:59
What in the HELL are you talking about?
+5 # Malcolm 2013-09-14 16:37
But, but, don't you folks feel SAFE? Names me feel all warm and fuzzy
-4 # 2013-09-14 18:48
American wimps never feel safe without a condom.
-1 # Phlippinout 2013-09-15 00:39
Like a fungus!
+13 # walt 2013-09-14 18:34
All amazing.

And the Americans tax payers will pick up the bill for such a hostile and unilateral action against the freedoms of others.

Just what are our leaders thinking? And once again, what lobby is driving this one?
0 # 2013-09-14 18:50
PS: So now google DARPA HAARP & IAPA.
+4 # chomper2 2013-09-14 18:55
Job security for morons. Guess who pays.
-12 # ishmael 2013-09-14 19:05
It will be a plus if it gets rid of things like Somslian piracy.
+1 # Mrcead 2013-09-15 08:24
Talk about penny wise, dollar foolish.

Keep chasing those pennies. You'll catch up eventually.
+3 # reiverpacific 2013-09-15 12:27
Quoting ishmael:
It will be a plus if it gets rid of things like Somslian piracy.

That's real smart!
It's about as far-sighted as proposing the use of nuclear bombs to stop a bank robber!
+15 # Richard1908 2013-09-14 19:50
America rules the waves as surely as it rules the rest of the world. How people perceive China and Russia to be the countries that threaten peace when it is the USA that pulls these war-mongering stunts is beyond me.
+1 # Kootenay Coyote 2013-09-14 20:56
& being unmanned & in international waters, they are (1) a Danger to Navigation & thus arguably legal & (2) Subject to interference by anybody.
+2 # keenon the truth 2013-09-14 21:13
First I thought'Paranoi a'!!!! But then I realised that as America is working so hard to make enemies all over the world, perhaps it's not as paranoid as I thought!
-7 # ishmael 2013-09-14 21:50
Oops. Didn't mean to offend supporters of Somalian piracy. ^/^
+2 # RHytonen 2013-09-14 22:52
TV, and the lazies who live by trusting it as their window on reality, make it too damn easy to replace reality with elaborate profit-serving propaganda.

For all you know, Syria hasn't even existed for forty years. Go ahead - try to prove it. All you have is the hearsay of people CHOSEN from a pool of highly paid actors mouthing team-written scripts elaborately chosen to separate you from your money, and from reality, to keep you docile, believing in an agenda of your impotence to change it, worried, desperate and working.
+5 # johnscupper 2013-09-15 01:36
Quite aside from how any of us feel about it, it might be time for a little reality check:

a. admiralty law (written by the Brits and the US) makes firing any any of these vessels an act of war.

b. The US has troops stationed in about 130 countries around the world - this is just the maritime extension of the same policy of world control.

c. The US became the hegemonic power of the world at the end of world war two because it had the most military, political and economic power. It still does, which is why the world listens to the jerk in the white house, even though they hate him.

d. Profit for the arms corps is always a consideration, but the arms companies in the rest of the world can't get their governments to spend that kind of money on arms because they just don't need them - they are not the hegemon of the world.

e. The Chinese just launched their first aircraft carrier with another one on the way, and they now claim the entire South China sea as their territory (oil and gas fields). Looks like they might be ready in ten years to fight there own version of the Spanish-America n War of 1898, which was the USA's imperialist "coming-out party."

As the Chinese curse says: "may you be born in interestiing times"
+7 # phrixus 2013-09-15 05:57
Sheer lunacy. It appears the operating philosophy is now "Weaponize everything. Outer space, the skies, the lands, the oceans. Spy on everything and everyone. Kill whenever and wherever you can. Figure out some bullshit reason to start a war; anywhere, anytime. Screw the Constitution."

The doors to the insane asylum are wide open and the crazies have taken charge of the administration, congress and the supreme court.

The machine has GOT to be stopped somehow. I don't know by what means but this insanity has got to end before it destroys us all.
-5 # ishmael 2013-09-15 07:54
People really like Somalian piracy???

Really ???
+3 # reiverpacific 2013-09-15 17:00
Quoting ishmael:
People really like Somalian piracy???

Really ???

O' for fuck's sake, quit gibbering and open your mind a bit.
Somali piracy is about as world-shatterin g on the scale of things as a TV figure's hair-do, which is all you appear to have on your head.
Would you chase a wasp with stealth bomber (you probably would)?
+2 # RMDC 2013-09-15 08:04
Pure insanity. When will the Pentagon and DARPA just go away. No one wants them and no one needs them.
+5 # Mrcead 2013-09-15 08:37

What does it stand for?

Few Ever Arrive Rejoicing

Failure Expected And Received

False Evidence Appearing Real

False Expectations Appearing Real

Future Events Appearing Real

False Emotions Appearing Real

False Experiences Appearing Real

Future Events Appear Real

Frantic Effort to Appear Real

Forget Everything and Run

Forgetting Everything's All Right

Frantic Efforts to Appear Recovered

Forfeiture Endangers American Rights

For Everything A Reason

Finding Excuses and Reasons

Failure Expected And Received

Forgetting Everything is All Right

False Expectations About Reality

Frantic Effort to Avoid Reality

Forgetting Everything About Reality

Future Events Already Ruined

Force Elements at Readiness

Felines Enraged About Rodents (not really but you get the message).
+3 # Mainiac 2013-09-15 10:02
I agree about this being a horrendous plan. Being able to launch a strike at a moment’s notice could lead to terrible mistakes. Isn’t that why we had the hotline between the USSR and the White House?
The problem comes from within our country and it is up to us to stop it. Maybe organizing for lots of people to go to the defense (!) production plants in each congressional district, encircle them and demand that they be shut down. A general strike seems in order as well.
We can’t let this continue.
+3 # jwb110 2013-09-15 10:43
From Reagan's Star Wars Initiative to the Sea Wars Initiative. I doubt the Armed forces are facing any cuts of any significance.
Sequester cuts are offset by plain tax giveaways to the Pentagon and the like. The thing that irks me the most is that "strategic interests" of America are almost always protection of the 1% and yet they do not pay.
The Gov't could tax the 1% by only 1%, stipulate that all those dollars only finance the military and we would be deficit free in a trice. Doe anybody think creatively in Washington!?
-1 # fishmother 2013-09-15 10:45
Or5 the way I learned it f__k everything & and run ~ which is what so much of the above made me want to do.
+1 # tigerlille 2013-09-16 03:29
Well, you know what they say, the oceans are the last frontier. Yes, let's militarize the oceans! World domination, on land and water! Will the glory of the United States manifest destiny ever end? I am goddamn sick of all this.
+1 # mstocker 2013-09-16 14:22
Of course all of these drones will have to communicate somehow. In most cases they will be using acoustic telemetry - making all manner of nasty noises that we know bothers marine animals. See:
+1 # wrknight 2013-09-17 09:50
Before I drink any of this koolaid I want to know where all these threats are and where they are coming from. So far as I can see, all the curent threats to US national security are either imagined or fabricated to justify spending on a bloated War Department.

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