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Volsky reports: "JUROR: I think [George Zimmerman] guilty of not using good judgment. When he was in the car and he called 911, he shouldn't have gotten out of that car. But the 911 operator also, when he was talking to him, kind of egged him on."

Anderson Cooper interviews juror B37. (photo: CNN)
Anderson Cooper interviews juror B37. (photo: CNN)

7 Mind Blowing Moments From Zimmerman Juror B37's First Interview

By Igor Volsky, ThinkProgress

16 July 13


n Monday night, one of the jurors in the George Zimmerman trial offered shocking insight into how the group of six women reached its decision to acquit the defendant of all charges in the murder of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

In an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper, Juror B-37 - who initially planned to write a book about the trial - revealed that the jurors considered Florida's Stand Your Ground law in reaching their verdict, appeared to strongly sympathize with the defendant, and felt that race played no factor in the incident. Below are Juror B-37's most surprising revelations:

1. Martin was responsible for his own death.

JUROR: It was just hard, thinking that somebody lost their life, and there's nothing else that could be done about it. I mean, it's what happened. It's sad. It's a tragedy this happened, but it happened. And I think both were responsible for the situation they had gotten themselves into. I think both of them could have walked away. It just didn't happen.

2. Juror felt just as sorry for Zimmerman.

COOPER: Do you feel sorry for Trayvon Martin?

JUROR: I feel sorry for both of them. I feel sorry for Trayvon, in the situation he was in. And I feel sorry for George because of the situation he got himself in.

3. Zimmerman should continue to serve as a neighborhood watchman because he has learned his lesson about going too far.

COOPER: Is George Zimmerman somebody you would like to have on a neighborhood watch in your community?

JUROR: If he didn't go too far. I mean, you can always go too far. He just didn't stop at the limitations that he should have stopped at.

COOPER: So is that a yes or - if he didn't go too far. Is he somebody prone, you think, to going too far? Is he somebody you would feel comfortable -

JUROR: I think he was frustrated. I think he was frustrated with the whole situation in the neighborhood, with the break-ins and the robberies. And they actually arrested somebody not that long ago. I - I mean, I would feel comfortable having George, but I think he's learned a good lesson.

COOPER: So you would feel comfortable having him now, because you think he's learned a lesson from all of this?

JUROR: Exactly. I think he just didn't know when to stop. He was frustrated, and things just got out of hand.

4. Verdict hinged on "Stand Your Ground" law, even though Zimmerman did not use it in his defense.

COOPER: Because of the two options you had, second degree murder or manslaughter, you felt neither applied?

JUROR: Right. Because of the heat of the moment and the Stand Your Ground. He had a right to defend himself. If he felt threatened that his life was going to be taken away from him or he was going to have bodily harm, he had a right.

5. Zimmerman was only guilty of using poor judgment and was "egged" on to follow Martin by the 9/11 operator.

COOPER: Do you think he's guilty of something?

JUROR: I think he's guilty of not using good judgment. When he was in the car and he called 911, he shouldn't have gotten out of that car. But the 911 operator also, when he was talking to him, kind of egged him on.

6. Race played absolutely no factor in Zimmerman's profiling of Martin.

JUROR: I think just circumstances caused George to think that he might be a robber, or trying to do something bad in the neighborhood because of all that had gone on previously. There were unbelievable, a number of robberies in the neighborhood.

COOPER: So you don't believe race played a role in this case?

JUROR: I don't think it did. I think if there was another person, Spanish, white, Asian, if they came in the same situation where Trayvon was, I think George would have reacted the exact same way.

COOPER: Why do you think George Zimmerman found Trayvon Martin suspicious then?

JUROR: Because he was cutting through the back, it was raining. He said he was looking in houses as he was walking down the road. Kind of just not having a purpose to where he was going. He was stopping and starting. But I mean, that's George's rendition of it, but I think the situation where Trayvon got into him being late at night, dark at night, raining, and anybody would think anybody walking down the road stopping and turning and looking, if that's exactly what happened, is suspicious. And George said that he didn't recognize who he was.

COOPER: Well, was that a common belief on the jury that race was not - that race did not play a role in this?

JUROR: I think all of us thought that race did not play a role. [...]

COOPER: It didn't come up, the question of, did George Zimmerman profile Trayvon Martin because he was African-American?

JUROR: No, I think he just profiled him because he was the neighborhood watch, and he profiled anyone who came in acting strange. I think it was just circumstances happened that he saw Trayvon at the exact time that he thought he was suspicious.

7. Zimmerman's history of reporting black men to the police and his decision to follow Martin played no role in the verdict.

COOPER: So whether it was George Zimmerman getting out of the vehicle, whether he was right to get out of the vehicle, whether he was a wannabe cop, whether he was overeager, none of that in the final analysis, mattered. What mattered was those seconds before the shot went off, did George Zimmerman fear for his life?

JUROR: Exactly. That's exactly what happened.

Juror B-37 twice used the phrase "George said," even though Zimmerman himself didn't testify. Tapes of Zimmerman explaining the incident were shown in the courtroom. your social media marketing partner


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+78 # michelle 2013-07-16 15:55
and then...juror 37B brokered a book deal. I wonder if that her goal all along. I was pleased to see her literary agent backed out today.
+15 # pbbrodie 2013-07-17 13:21
The prosecution did an incredibly horrible job of jury selection and why were there only 6 jurors in a capital case? How did someone with a concealed carry permit get on the jury???
+4 # JSRaleigh 2013-07-17 22:55
Quoting pbbrodie:
The prosecution did an incredibly horrible job of jury selection and why were there only 6 jurors in a capital case? How did someone with a concealed carry permit get on the jury???

Because it was NOT a capital case & Florida permits 6 person juries in non-capital cases. Zimmerman was charged with 2nd degree murder, which in Florida is a 25-Life sentence if it involves a firearm.
+94 # pernsey 2013-07-16 16:57
Wow!! They sound like he got caught doing a minor offense. These jurors apparently arent aware that he committed murder...HOLY CRAP!!
+35 # Rita Walpole Ague 2013-07-17 06:47
Yes, pernsey, evil crap plus. It's hard to figure what's at the root of we Yanks being "sooooo naive" (comment made to me in Ireland, not too long ago.)

Could it be our lower than low worldwide ranking in educating our kids, or as I've come to refer to it: EVERY CHILD LEFT BEHIND. Gots to keep us dumbed down, now don't the villainaire rulers?

Or could it be the 'it's all about me, nothing or no one else matter' philosophy that has taken us over? Or a combo of both, with our evil villainaire rulers keeping both the aforementioned in place via constant MSDing (manipulating, spinning, distracting) via their corporate owned and controlled 'mess' media?

Whatever the answer, this woman jurist is certainly guilty of inability to think critically. Nor does she seem to be able to follow judge's jury instructions, which did not include consideration of Florida's 'kill at will' law.

Certainly appears that her self interest in publishing a book, it's all about me m.o., took precedent over her careful/logical analysis of actual facts.
+14 # karenvista 2013-07-18 17:46
Quoting ritaague:
Whatever the answer, this woman jurist is certainly guilty of inability to think critically. Nor does she seem to be able to follow judge's jury instructions, which did not include consideration of Florida's 'kill at will' law.

This case has been driving me crazy since everyone in the media keeps saying that it was a "Stand Your Ground" case.

Zimmerman and his attorneys specifically stated that the were not using a "Stand Your Ground" defense. They used simple self-defense.

When I read the Jury Instructions, knowing that "Stand Your Ground" was not the Defense strategy, I was shocked to find that the verbiage from the "Stand Your Ground" law was included, word for word, in the Jury Instructions.

I was outraged and posted everywhere that the Jury Instructions were flawed and that threw the case.

I got a response from an attorney who told me that when the "Stand Your Ground" laws are passed in states one of the requirements of the law is that Jury Instructions in "self defense" cases must include the "Stand Your Ground" verbiage allowing anyone to be found "Not Guilty" under those instructions even if that is not being claimed by the Defense!

So the judge was required to read that verbiage into the Jury Instructions!

The research I've done seems to confirm that.

This law must be surgically removed from our criminal justice system, and we may need chemo to be sure it's really gone.
+103 # michelle 2013-07-16 17:12
Just reread the interview. It really bothers me when she refers to him as George, not Mr. Zimmerman, not the defendant, but George. Has she 'bonded' with the defendant? Did she search for a way to let him off? Something doesn't feel right here. If we had real investigative journalism we might eventually know something about her.
+35 # Susan1989 2013-07-17 05:24
I thought the same he was her friend.
+25 # db4635 2013-07-17 10:08
Did she bond with "George"? Well, they both (her husband as well) have concealed weapon licenses. She probably put herself in Zimmerman's place and decided if she shot an unarmed kid, she would want to get off also.
+84 # RMDC 2013-07-16 18:24
I did not follow the trial closely but I'm outraged at the verdict. Did the prosecution not present the stalking case against Zimmerman? He was told by the 911 operation not to follow Treyvon. But he did. He was armed wiht a gun and he followed Trayvon. Sounds to me like stalking. Didn't Trayvon have a right to defend himself and "stand his ground."

I'd say the lesson here is that all African American kids in Florida and they whole nation better start carrying guns and announce to creepy white crackers that they are going to stand their ground. That is the clear message from this court.

Also sounds like the prosecutor did a half hearted job. Clearly Zimmerman was a habitual stalker.
+66 # intheEPZ 2013-07-16 22:51
Having a jury of your peers, when your peers are brainwashed by the MSM, and have no critical thinking skills or basic common sense, is cold comfort. No, it's chilling.
+31 # tm7devils 2013-07-17 07:27
Peers...??? Was there a Black woman (or man) on the jury? Was there ANY minority person on the jury?
Where do you think Zimmerman would be right now if there were 6 women of Trayvon's race on the jury?
Justice and morality have become antiquated terms in this country...and "horse sense" seldom sees the light of day.
+1 # MidwesTom 2013-07-17 08:01
No black person was on trial, just a white hispanic.
+18 # Billy Bob 2013-07-18 13:14
WRONG. Trayvon Martin was on trial. If Zimmerman was "not guilty", then Martin MUST HAVE been guilty of aggravated assault. "Self-defense" makes no sense unless Martin was found GUILTY of instigating the fight - even though NO evidence of that occurring has EVER been shown.
+6 # Kootenay Coyote 2013-07-17 08:46
There was one Hispanic woman on the jury.
+7 # db4635 2013-07-17 10:14
And Zimmerman is half Hispanic.
+6 # karenvista 2013-07-18 17:53
Quoting db4635:
And Zimmerman is half Hispanic.

And Hispanic is not a race. Native North and South Americans are considered Caucasian, even though we all came from Africa originally.

That makes sense doesn't it? How do those people figure out who to be prejudiced against?
+1 # RLF 2013-07-23 06:28
I have experienced incredible racism in the Latin community against dark skin. That doesn't cut it. It is clear to me that the prosecutor threw the trial by letting the video of 'George' be shown without cross examination.
+21 # db4635 2013-07-17 10:13
And, it was reported that during voir dire, she referred to the protests after Trayvon was killed as "riots."

It is very possible the prosecutor did not try to get a fair jury.
+13 # MidwesTom 2013-07-17 08:00
These same jurors vote, which is a major part of what is wrong with our system.
+11 # db4635 2013-07-17 10:09
Wrong! Brainwashed by the NRA.
+27 # Shorey13 2013-07-16 23:16
Lawyers want idiots for juries because they can be manipulated. The whole system is an evil joke. A jury of Martin's "peers" would have been black and would have found Zimmerman guilty of murder.

But then, unarmed young black men are murdered every day in this country by racist, cowardly cops.
0 # RLF 2013-07-23 06:30
Let's not forget that they are mostly murdered by their brethren.
+23 # ladymidath 2013-07-16 23:50
Wow this was just downright creepy. That woman sounded as though she was almost admiring of Zimmerman.
Maybe she see him as a big strong protector, kind of like how the KKK were portrayed in Birth Of A Nation.
I am just glad to know that I am living on a country where people are not allowed to run around with guns and where people are answerable for their actions.
+27 # chrisconnolly 2013-07-16 23:54
It seems awfully convenient that a book deal was made so quickly. I thought the jurors were anonymous. Did this juror have prior contact with a publisher? Her positions seem so textbook underground racism that is hidden in plain view. This was just another rigged side-show. Why weren't there 12 jurors?
+13 # vt143 2013-07-17 05:55
Another psycho left on the street. And then, of course, there's George Zimmerman too...
+21 # HuggyBear333 2013-07-17 06:47
Tapes of Zimmerman "explaining the incedent"were played in court but the prosecution didn't have the opportunity to cross-examine?? !! How is that possible?
0 # hammermann 2013-07-19 16:46
you haven't read too many legal novels or seen legal movies, eh. The defendant chooses whether to testify- there are so many ways he can trip up and hang himself, that many don't... UNLESS he is really losing.
0 # RLF 2013-07-23 06:32
The Defense couldn't use these tapes with out the prosecutors agreeing or at least objecting.
+1 # hammermann 2013-07-19 16:47
Sorry, yeah, you're right- they would have tried to cross examine him.
+14 # Glen 2013-07-17 07:58
Whatever happened to 12 jurors? I realize I am not well versed in trial regulations and such, but it would appear limiting this trial to six was a mistake, and the comments here concerning the mentality of those six is pertinent to who was chosen and approved by the defense. Let's hope any trial concerning a killing will be better conducted. Of course, in stand your ground states, there often is no trial at all.
+17 # Kootenay Coyote 2013-07-17 08:47
Behold the hideous peril of impanelling low-grade morons for jury duty.
+5 # nsmorris 2013-07-17 08:51
Note to "intheEPZ": Most thinking people agree the verdict is chilling. But enough already with the blame game on the MSM. Racism is obviously a strong unacknowledged current running through so many people. For years and years. Something probably only younger generations will have to learn to obliterate. Do you really think if there were no media the world would be an ideal place where racism didn't exist? You're dreaming.
+6 # Feral Dogz 2013-07-18 08:44
No! I know that if there were an honest and objective MSM that didn't make its living spewing propaganda in support of a dysfunctional and dying empire, the world would be a better place.

The world outside the USA feels that way too. Consider South Africa, where before the end of apartheid, all information was controlled and censored by the white minority and de facto slavery flourished. South African society is far from ideal, but people of color are certainly a lot better off.

Control of information is fundamental to the success of tyranny and the MSM are doing a good job of serving their corporate masters and shareholders to the detriment of the Nation and the world.

'No media' and 'an ideal world' are not the goals of realists. They are the lame talking points of right wing morning emails.
+16 # giraffee2012 2013-07-17 10:44
With the "confession" of this juror (and 2 others not mentioned here) - it SHOULD give the FEDERAL government reason to erase this "mock" jury. Although Zimmerman (I cannot put a Mr. in front of his name) cannot be tried 2x for "manslaughter" and "2nd degree murder" - he can be tried for stalking... aha - if I were part of the Federal investigating team, I'd put a few people ON Zimmerman and when he stalks his next victim (and surely he can't help himself from stalking) I nail his arse.

Zimmerman got away with murder "in plain sight" with all of the USA watching on TV. How can we call ourselves a democracy when we allow this sort of silliness happen in our?)

SHAME ON YOU FLORIDA DOJ people. SHAME SHAME on your "jurors" and shame on the judge who knew her directions were too complicated for non-lawyer types to follow and shame on those who passed "stand ur ground" - which "should" only apply when somebody is the true aggressor (such as entering your home) -- the "Stand... " law should be specific and it aint.

Do we really have "checks/balance s" in our justice system? Duh - look at the banksters: Only a few banksters from small banks are in jail. Dimond and all the big billionaire bansters are still stealing and doing crimes against us "in plain sight"
Elizabeth Warren is a coming for you --- so give back before you are shown to be the banksters you are..... just a thought
+17 # happycamper690 2013-07-17 11:01
Amazing how revealing this interview is into the truly racist views of this juror, despite her frequent denial that it played no role. I wonder how she survived the jury selection process. Perhaps we can eventually acheive justice through federal prosecution for violations of Mr. Martin's civil rights.
+18 # Buddha 2013-07-17 15:28
That's America today, someone can hold hugely racist beliefs but still claim that that they aren't racist. The insights into this jury, and this particular juror, shows how bad it still is in Florida, and across the South. That this woman can pretend that the ruling would have been the same if it was a black shooting a white teen is the height of self-deception.
+14 # Fishguns 2013-07-18 11:20
After ignoring police orders to back off several times, there can be no doubt that Zimmerman was the aggressor and the only one who could legitimately "stand their ground" was Mr Martin. All other evidence is red herring pie. The only thing B-37 got right was that she should never serve on a jury again. It's a bad joke and our justice system is the punchline. Bummer.
+9 # Billy Bob 2013-07-18 13:17
I think the only way you could GET ON a jury like that is to show evidence that you're so STUPID, or self-involved that you had no prior knowledge of the case. This is a mistake - as we can see.
0 # SMoonz 2013-07-19 12:08
You must not think highly of Jimmy Carter I imagine...
+2 # vitobonespur 2013-07-19 00:09
This juror sounds like she has less sense than Zimmerman. So now we know that there are at least two people in Florida who think OJ Zimmerman is a hero.

If the remaining jurors are just as deluded, that would make that number seven hero worshippers.
+1 # tigerlille 2013-07-19 22:37
Ugh. I am glad she had the sense to take some steps to conceal her identity. She gives new meaning to the term "complacent."

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