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Excerpt: "The National Rifle Association has unveiled a new advertisement on its Web site accusing President Obama of being an 'elitist hypocrite.'"

A screenshot from the Web site of the National Rifle Association, showing an ad about security for President Obama's children. (photo: NRA)
A screenshot from the Web site of the National Rifle Association, showing an ad about security for President Obama's children. (photo: NRA)

NRA Ad Targets Obama's Children

By The New York Times

16 January 13


he National Rifle Association has unveiled a new advertisement on its Web site accusing President Obama of being an "elitist hypocrite" for expressing skepticism about the group's proposal to put armed security guards in schools, while accepting secret service protection for his daughters.

The ad does not show images of the president's daughters but refers to them in the first line of audio, in which a narrator asks: "Are the president's kids more important than yours?".

The narration continues: "Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school? Mr. Obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, but he's just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security. Protection for their kids and gun-free zones for ours."

In addition to Mr. Obama, the ad displays images of four other figures excoriated as elitist hypocrites: Vice President Joe Biden, who is drawing up proposals to curb gun violence, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, an outspoken advocate of gun control, Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, who has promised to introduce legislation banning assault weapons, and David Gregory, the moderator of NBC's "Meet the Press," who had a heated exchange during a recent interview with Wayne LaPierre, the vice president of the powerful gun lobby.

My colleague Michael Shear reports that the White House issued a strong reaction to the ad, calling it " repugnant and cowardly."

Michael D. Shear @shearm
Strong WH react to NRA video: "To make the safety of the President's children the subject of an attack ad is repugnant and cowardly."

During a discussion of the N.R.A. ad on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," on Wednesday, the program's host, former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough, dropped his head and asked, "What's wrong with these people?"

Joe Scarborough @JoeNBC
The NRA needs new leadership. This extremism is frightening and over the line.

After his co-host Mika Brzezinski called the group's leaders "sick in the head," Mr. Scarborough said: "they need new leadership is what they need. Their leadership has dragged them over the cliff. They are now a fringe organization, with millions of mainstream Americans" as members. "This extremism," he concluded, "is frightening." your social media marketing partner


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+160 # LeeBlack 2013-01-16 12:08
It's people like the creators of this ad that bring about the need to have security for our elected leaders (and their children).
-167 # Martintfre 2013-01-16 13:43
The fact that a double standard in how the elite require them selves to be protected yet they wish to deny the same to any one else is telling.

That hypocritical double standard carries forward in almost everything they say and do. We the little people are responsible for any law they cook up -- but they are special and immune to the same laws. Unfortunately masses have been educated to worship these jerks to the point of even questioning that double standard is deemed as a mark of insanity, bigotry and hatred.
+90 # ewokky 2013-01-16 14:26
The double standard here is not Obama's but that of the NRA. This ad implies the NRA considers their volunteer armed guards equivalent to the US Secret Service agents guarding the President's family. Really, which would you want in your kid's school?
+125 # BradFromSalem 2013-01-16 14:28

Cut it out.

Barack Obama is the President of the United States. He is the most powerful person on the planet. His kryptonite is his family. If his daughters were to be kidnapped they could be used for blackmail, if they were to be killed; the outrage not just from Obama, but much of the world could trigger worldwide violence or even war.
Sorry, but that is reality. When we voted him into the job, these are the rules of the job. Many times, he and his family probably despise having the armerd guards all the time. And by the way, ask Ron Reagan Jr. how having armed guards around his dad protected him. Its a deterrent, not a guarantee.
+46 # Pickwicky 2013-01-16 17:17
BradFromSalem-- sane words from BradFromSalem!

Moreover--The Secret Service is not protecting citizen Barack Obama and his family, the Secret Service is protecting the President of the United States and the President's family--just as they have for many other Presidents.

So to Martintfe--Pres idents are special and immune to "any [gun] laws" they cook up, because they are special--and because haters make them targets.
+26 # Texas Aggie 2013-01-16 16:29
And who exactly, besides those who want to distribute firearms freely throughout the US, wishes to deny protection to every child? Surely you aren't so foolish to think that having armed guards in schools is going to prevent anything. It didn't work in Columbine or anywhere else. And who is going to protect the students from the guards? The places where guards exist have a long record of them abusing the children to feed their own delusions of grandeur.
+15 # David Starr 2013-01-16 18:36
@martintfre: It's been routine procedure that presidents, and their kin, receive protection, both GOP and Dem, considering being in the public spotlight, and more suceptible to potential attacks. I'm reminded of the JFK assassination, which was an inside job, and the attempt on Reagan; too bad the fates of the two weren't reversed.

It's nothing really new; it has gone on for generations. Not that it's always justifiable-giv en ideological considerations, for example-to have happen.

I suppose you would favor a virtual "killing field" within schools? Upping the ante sometimes is anti-thetical to sanity, anti-bigotry and compassion. Prioritzing a blindly, revenge-ladened gun culture has proven to be a failure, both foreign and domestic. This gung ho mentality that you support is a threat to sanity, anti-bigotry and compassion.
+8 # ghostperson 2013-01-16 22:21
Fellow Readers: Do you get the impression that martinfre has an inverse measurement device? The higher the negative number the happier he is.

Negative 129 vs. "zip" positive?

Just saying....
+11 # Mannstein 2013-01-16 22:32
What double standard. This President and his family has received more death threats than any previous one. Would you deny him and his family Secret Service protection? If yes then you're the hater.
+8 # Mannstein 2013-01-16 22:36
What the NRA is proposing of putting armed guards into every US school is going to cost $500 million. Want to reduce spending the way you keep blathering about? Get rid of the NRA it's a less expensive solution.
+6 # rockieball 2013-01-17 18:50
You fail to realize sir that this protection also existed for every President's children and their wives not just for President Obama. The Secret Service protections also goes to the families of Presidential candidates, which mean Milt Romney and his family and their children also were protected. By law the protection ends for the children the day the President leaves office. But both Clinton and Bush signed an executive order extending that protection. The length of which has not been revealed. The NRA and you sir are making a mountain out of a mole hill. It is not a hypocritical double standard it's a law since April 14 1865. The speaker of the house and Senate also receive protection. Children of a former President under the age of 16 receive protection until they are 16
+21 # Art947 2013-01-16 16:43
One way to define a terorist/terror ist organization is that it tries to influence change, or get its way through violence and/or the promotion of fear. This seems to fit the NRA perfectly. Why don't we finally request the US Attorney General to ask the Courts to label the NRA as a terrorist organization and then treat that group appropriately?
+19 # X Dane 2013-01-16 17:48
Yes they need security. it is, as somebody said a deterrent, but certainly not fool proof. Which is why I think that Obama is very courageous. He is out among the people all the time, when he is speaking.

He could stay safely in the White House, so he was not just brave when he ordered the raid on Bin Laden's compound. It would certainly have cost him the presidency if it had failed. He also is brave when he moves out among people.

There are so many crazy people, that he certainly is in danger all the time, in spite of the secret service guys, you see around him. They may not be able to prevent somebody with a gun from shooting him.

So if you care for our country at all, pray for his safety. If he were hurt or killed all hell would brake loose........
For obvious reasons.
-31 # Surflar 2013-01-16 19:05
NRA isn't targeting Obummer's kids their pointing out that his kids somehow deserve more protection than ours. MSM so sucks.
+13 # Mannstein 2013-01-16 22:41
If you or you're kids received death threats you also deserve police protection. In the meantime NRA members keep you're fu--ing guns out of my face.
+129 # BradFromSalem 2013-01-16 12:10
Of course the ad is on the NRA website. No TV station or network, even Fox (I hope) would carry such disingenous trash.

The following words spoken by Joseph Welch to Sen. McCarthy that was prologue to McCarthy's downfall now echo in my head.

"Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
+34 # LeeBlack 2013-01-16 14:02
Unfortunately all the TV stations are showing the ad to demonstrate this ad is beyond the pale - so you don't have to have your own TV network.
+30 # BradFromSalem 2013-01-16 14:14

I get your point that it would be nice to just shun the damn thing, At least the station/network is not getting any money from it and the ad is framed by the reporter for the gullible.
+11 # LeeBlack 2013-01-16 18:00
Good point about money to the broadcasters.

Remember in the 'old days' of domestic terrorist - SLA, etc.? The broadcasters decided not to name the terrorist group that planted bombs, etc. It was very effective.
+6 # opinionaire 2013-01-17 10:21
Exactly t
he quote that occurred to me, as well.

This is appalling.

I have worked in supposedly secure environments serving people with criminal histories which also include schools for them. Teachers in these environments have been unable to keep their keys, money or other things out of the hands of their students, even though it is "secure". If a teacher in a more typical environmnet had to manage a weapon, how would it be sufficiently secured-particu larly from the students-but still accessible to use in an emergency? This would be exaccerbated by an armed person coming in with guns blazing. There would be no time to secure the children and pull out a weapon. Personally I would prefer the safety of the chilren.
+124 # ghostperson 2013-01-16 12:16
Would one expect any less from fanatics?

The more they talk the bigger the hole they dig for themselves and conservatives, generally, because the Tea Party/John Birch faction of the GOP is running the ship--a ground.

No mention is made of protection for Nancy Reagan.

Hypocrisy? Not by a long shot. Conveniently overlooked is the fact that this POTUS has had the most death threats of any president in the history of the country. Ergo, his family is in constant danger if we recall the image of JFK being shot with his wife next to him in Dallas.

It is a charge that, by any measure, is a sign of unglued desperation by those who cannot justify on substance the "need" for automatic assault weapon availability in general society.

It is not often that one gets to observe fanatical haters auger themselves into the ground becoming their own undoing.
-80 # KittatinyHawk 2013-01-16 14:14
All Presidents and VP are awarded that privilege...I believe they should pay for it or their party...another dime saved
+41 # Alice 2013-01-16 15:49
I'll bet you did not complain about it until Obama was President. Just like every other thing the right wing complains about now - e.g., spending, disaster relief, etc.
+107 # MEBrowning 2013-01-16 12:21
The NRA has morphed into a completely different organization from what its founders envisioned. It's become totally political, with an extremist agenda. I hope its membership WILL stand up and fight — for saner leadership.
+11 # KittatinyHawk 2013-01-16 14:14
That is because they are Killers, Murderers nothing more Their Churches condone them
+30 # Alice 2013-01-16 15:51
Political it may be, but it is mostly commercial. Just check out how many guns are sold when they scare the be-jesus out of their followers. This results in money in their coffers from the gun and ammo manufacturers, which I am sure is the largest amount of their funding. It's all about the money.
+112 # guyachs 2013-01-16 12:22
They don't realize that every president's children is protected because they are in much greater danger than other children.
These people are lunatics!!
+67 # moreover 2013-01-16 12:29
According to reports Obama has since 2007 received about 40.000 death threats, and about 30 per day. I read the Secret Service doesn't even tell him about them any more in fear it might distract him. Apparently these figures are a vast increase from the threat level previous presidents lived under.
Side note: My supermarket chain carries a magazine exclusively devoted to sniper rifles. America, the Beautiful - or was it "Land of Opportunity"?
+64 # feloneouscat 2013-01-16 12:34
Wow! That's the sleaziest ad yet!
+82 # Exotikat 2013-01-16 12:46
Ordinary Americans absolutely need to stand up and speak out about this kind of atrocious behavior. Look where not doing so has got us....our legislators no longer represent us, they represent the crazy fringe, formerly sober institutions are now run by nuts, the level of gratuitous violence in our media has become so commonplace the unhinged take their cues from it. The President's children need protection otherwise some mad person would try to kidnap them or shoot them, but the NRA is using their vulnerability to sell the idea that ALL our children should grow up with the idea armed guards are commonplace for their security. What a pathetic and horrifying commentary on life in America circa 2013.
+24 # KittatinyHawk 2013-01-16 14:16
Americans should stop paying dues to these creeps Let them get jobs at Walmart where their intelligence will not be challenged
+15 # michelle 2013-01-16 17:51
"Ordinary Americans absolutely need to stand up and speak out about this kind of atrocious behavior. Look where not doing so has got us....our legislators no longer represent us..."

Well said and it goes to the heart of the matter. Let each one of us call our representative, ask about the commercial and then ask if our representative receives money/contribut ions from the NRA. If the answer is yes, well then, we need to let our rep know we won't be voting for them unless they return the money and publicly denounce the NRA. Exotikat is right. We must be active and do our part.
+79 # karlarove 2013-01-16 12:51
As Dr. Scott Peck wrote many years ago militant ignorance is EVIL. Their extremism is not only frightening. The ad they put out is disgusting. We keep talking about the problems of mental illness being ignored - we are listening to it and seeing it in these ads.
+29 # KittatinyHawk 2013-01-16 14:21
They are now why I want gun tests, gun licenses. I want mentality tests, eye tests. I want people with hand guns to have to have certain hours at Qualified Shooting Ranges with Qualified Instructors.

Perhaps having to shell out money to go thru a Course at Community College in Gun Safety, Target Practice, Cleaning Weapons, Ammunition know hows, Practice, Stress tests, not to mention Course at their expense at local Police Training to see if they can differentiate at who/whom they are shooting. If they pass the 9 month Course, they would have license to handle a gun, would have to sign that they are now in Allegiance to the Constitution as befitting a Militia to come to order in case of Attack.
That would be a good start. After all Hunters take Hunting Course. Arming some drugged up, Beer Toting, Prejudiced AH with a Gun is no less a need to make sure they have their crap together goes for man, woman and child.
+14 # Texas Aggie 2013-01-16 16:34
Like the guy who lost his gun permit when he threatened to "start killing people," the people who take the NRA's position seriously need to be labeled as mentally ill and unfit to own weapons.
+76 # Barbara K 2013-01-16 12:56
All children of Presidents are protected by the Secret Service. Why single out President Obama? Could it be color? How about Bush's twins? If anything the lunatics making the threats in ads and on TV are the exact personification of someone who should NOT own any firearms. That comes out loud and clear in the NRA's ads.
+45 # ceesa 2013-01-16 12:57
His children are not any more important than anyone's else! However, he certainly is, and this makes him and his family a more likely target than anyone else's children/family . The use of modus ponens is a an overworked misuse of logic by conservative leaders, the NRA specifically in this case........
-35 # keepinitreal 2013-01-16 13:49
So kids are safer with armed guards? By your own statement.
+15 # Texas Aggie 2013-01-16 16:38
Competent armed guards. There is a world of difference between the Secret Service and the dorks that are presently found patrolling school hallways. See ewokky 2013-01-16 12:26 above.
+14 # Pickwicky 2013-01-16 17:30
Keepinitreal--y our reply didn't keep it real. Please note the distinction between armed guard and Secret Service.
+8 # KittatinyHawk 2013-01-16 14:25
I feel not a one of them out of office deserves and armed guards...they can or their party can pay for that.
Once they are out of office they are one of us. To target them then only shows the mentality of the idiots. Most of the idiots pay idiots to shoot people.
-17 # edge 2013-01-16 14:55
Quoting KittatinyHawk:

Most of the idiots pay idiots to shoot people.

That is probably the most ridiculous statement you ever made!!

If that is the case name a few?

If that is true then none of Obama's gun grabbing will work and it is all a sham!!

Columbine, Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook...which of these were paid hit men??

Lee Harvey Oswald, Squeaky Fromme, John Hinkley, John Wilkes Booth...Come on which of these shooters were paid??
+20 # Texas Aggie 2013-01-16 16:41
And just where did you come up with the idea that Obama is "grabbing" people's guns? What did he ever say that even suggests that he thinks the government should have the power to come into people's houses and appropriate their guns that weren't stolen?
+12 # cjhutch53 2013-01-16 18:32
Another one of the paranoid followers of the right wing. They have been screaming about Obama was going to take their guns since the day he was elected and before he was inaugurated. And he took only one- COUNT THEM, ONE-action regarding the owning and/or usage of firearms and that was actually loosening up regulations while in the DC Mall. He has NEVER, NOT ONCE SAID WORD ONE about aking away anyones guns, and only today addressed assault weapons, increasing and enforcing licensing of all guns including gun shows and private owners which should be a no-brainer (but I am addressing people with no brains, so I guess that makes sense) and limiting how many rounds in a magazine. Second Amendment firmly still in place. But, they will try and keep feeding that lie for as long as gullible, paranoid reactionarys without any interest in digging in and getting facts can continue to be manipulated. And, they are clearly out in force today. Even most Republicans agree with these steps. Hellooooo??????
-3 # edge 2013-01-17 10:28
Quoting Texas Aggie:
And just where did you come up with the idea that Obama is "grabbing" people's guns? What did he ever say that even suggests that he thinks the government should have the power to come into people's houses and appropriate their guns that weren't stolen?

Assault Weapon ban is taking guns!
The terminology is stupid!

The style of GRIP used to hold the rifle, are you kidding me that is asinine!

TWO identical rifles with two style grips and one would be illegal and the other not makes the decisions laughable!

Clinton had this ban for 10 years and it made virtually zero difference in gun deaths or crime.

Real background checks, OK but the idiots in Washington have no clue about guns except that they don't want people to have them.

Chicago, Washington DC, NYC all have very tough gun laws, that is a fact!
Are there gun crimes in those cities, maybe even 1 or 2 murders?

That't right there are HUNDREDS of murders...WHY you ponder...perhap s CRIMINALS do not pay attention to laws!!!
WOW, what a novel concept criminals break laws who'd a thunk it!!!
+3 # colpow 2013-01-16 17:15
You really need to cut down on the nodoz.
+5 # Pickwicky 2013-01-16 17:31
edge--missed the point.
+2 # David Starr 2013-01-16 18:49
@edge: Well, at the least, Oswald was in on the JFK assassination, rather than being a shooter.
+14 # Art947 2013-01-16 16:32
Quoting KittatinyHawk:
I feel not a one of them out of office deserves and armed guards...they can or their party can pay for that.
Once they are out of office they are one of us. To target them then only shows the mentality of the idiots. Most of the idiots pay idiots to shoot people.

The reason why they still have armed Secret Service protection AFTER they leave office is because they still have information that terrorists would like to have. This security force is to protect the integrity of the US not the individual former POTUS.
+5 # cjhutch53 2013-01-16 18:25
Staggers the mind how much you have to actually spell out for these people, doesn't it? You would think that anyone with any critical thinking skills or even intellectual curiousity, or even just the ability to follow a thought througe to the end of it logical conclusion would get it. Not these people-we have to spell it out for them.
+12 # ghostperson 2013-01-16 22:18
Critical thinking? That is what No Child Left Behind is intended to eradicate.

Intellectual curiosity, yee gads, what will you say next that we ought to teach science instead of religious myths?

We are in the American Dark ages, when knowledge, critical thinking and analysis softened by the arts is in danger of being lost as it was in Europe.

The Muslims, however, kept their eye on the ball and preserved knowledge for all our benefit.

Do I sound like an elite snob? Hardly, I'm the child of a welder and beauty operator whose highest priority for for their kids to be educated and do better than they did. We did...because it was available, affordable with a stretch, done with miniscule amount of debt.

I had and have the American dream. I want it for everyone else too. I feel so sorry for young folks today. God, what a raw deal the Koch Kadre has dealt them.

Who in the living hell ever dreamed up profitizing education and placing it out of reach for the masses.

To date, no one has attempted to explain how this country is benefited by widespread ignorance and intractible poverty.

What the Kochs, the Norquists, the Roves, the Limbaughs, the Becks, the Romney's, The Ryans and the like want for us is a caste system. 1%'ers, 20%'ers with the remainder, you and I, untouchables.
+1 # cjhutch53 2013-01-18 10:52
Well said, ghostperson. There are just some things that should not involve making a profit-such as health care and public education. The minute profit is involved, regular people get hurt, and it becomes out of reach for the masses. Shameful the way $$$$ has become the new and ultimate "god" in this country. That is what we worship here.
-49 # Martintfre 2013-01-16 13:00
Hypocrisy is best when served live.
+13 # Pickwicky 2013-01-16 17:35
Martintfre--are you speaking of your error? You did make an error, a logical error, when you compared 'Mr. Any Man' to the President of the United States. You falsely compared a man to the Executive branch of the US government.
+52 # lysechrist 2013-01-16 13:12
This NRA ad is worse than repugnant and cowardly! This extremism is truly frightening and over the line - a good example of "how low can you go". What has our society come to that we have to put armed security guards in our schools?
+30 # Merschrod 2013-01-16 13:13
That is about it - NRA = fringe and frightened leadership. Accept that they have 5 million members - probably 1/2 of them are regular citizens, hunters etc. Then there is probably a radical fringe in there - hardly representative of American thought on guns and their meaning.

Then too, there are probably non-member fringe types who are afraid to be members for fear that they will be on a list somewhere. Not good for the average citizen who just wants safty to walk around and not be "collateral damage."
+12 # KittatinyHawk 2013-01-16 14:27
The 3 million regulars should start joining local sports clubs and save their money.
NRA cannot save us from a Congress or Senate that would strip us of the right to bear arms

We quit 30 years ago when all we met were retards with guns who hate anyone not like them. I have better decals in my possession that those of the third reich holes.
+18 # Robert 234 2013-01-16 13:14
He lives in a big house and uses a big jet at public expense and wherever he goes he has a squad of bodyguards that he doesn't pay for either. He's the President. Hello!
-49 # Michael_K 2013-01-16 13:33
A Tragedy would be a terrible thing to waste! The cynical use of dead children isn't at all cowardly and repugnant, because we all know that the end justifies the means!

I am very much a left wing/social safety net/anti-milita rist, and I find I have little in common with the vomit-inducing hypocrites here who claim to be progressives and perhaps are even addle-pated enough to believe that they are.
+9 # KittatinyHawk 2013-01-16 14:30
Trying on some new shoes. Name caller, Blame maker another NRA Spokesperson heard from

I do not have to stupidly boast what I am, anyone who knows me, knows I would die for a child or an animal. I like myself too bad most of the reichers don't, they might actually be good people including you
-2 # Michael_K 2013-01-17 00:28
Still, your selective indignation reveals you for what you are. Now, you're just attacking the truth-telling messenger.
+5 # Pickwicky 2013-01-16 17:38
Michael--would you please explain your statement? Why do you have 'little in common' with progressives here?
-2 # Michael_K 2013-01-17 00:32
Because they are so morally flexible as to accept almost any depraved criminal act, if it is committed by a Democratic Administration and packaged in the most cynica sentimentality.

The very same crimes, mind you, they so rightly and loudly condemn when committed by "the other team". Nauseating!
0 # Pickwicky 2013-01-18 14:00
Michael--thanks for reply, but could you please be specific? Give examples of "depraved criminal act"--
+35 # pushingforpeace 2013-01-16 13:43
They need more protection because of people like the ones who could even conceive of a divisive and irrational ad like that!
+27 # grouchy 2013-01-16 13:47
Ok, so they want guys-with-guns in all of our schools? Fine, then let them simply come up with the money to pay for this "luxury". Since we have been laying off all kinds of public servants such as police and firemen, I'd like to see how they would pull off this "simple" stunt by hiring the large number it would require for this task. I believe this factor would shut them up quickly!
+7 # KittatinyHawk 2013-01-16 14:31
I thopught the problem was people in school, businesses, post offices and on the street with guns. It doesn't work either NRA Reich
+10 # Cassandra2012 2013-01-16 16:26
And laying off teachers, you know , like the ones who did lay down their lives for some of those kids!!!
But then, for these NRA types, 'women's work' has always been an undervalued and underpaid entitlement.
-29 # keepinitreal 2013-01-16 13:47
There is hardly anyone on this site anymore, If you are a fedeeral employee, google "Feds borrowing from federal employees 401k accounts" but I'm sure it will get paid back. Sleep easy while you are being robbed. RSN why aren't you writing about this? Huh?
+9 # KittatinyHawk 2013-01-16 14:33
If you acted in an intelligent way, sent in articles thru chain of command...they would put it up once they are given the right to They have to pay for some of the articles.
But there is protocol...righ t now we are discussing the National Reichers Association
+15 # bmiluski 2013-01-16 13:52
Why don't the liberals start a organization like the NRA? I'll bet all the saner members of the current NRA will leave in droves.
+11 # KittatinyHawk 2013-01-16 14:39
Why should we. We have local sporting clubs, Archery and Gun Ranges. There are responsible Clubs that even offer training.
You can work with Police and perhaps have them help you learn more about shooting, protocols.
I believe we need a 9 month College Course before given a gun license esp one to carry.

I see most organizations start with so much wonderful thoughts. NRA did, over years members have their own agenda, find others who 'believe' then the ByLaws go to Hell, everyone conveniently forgets why they started to begin with I only have to look at Congress, Senate and States to see how true that is
+29 # jmillay 2013-01-16 13:54
My 7th grade art students in East LA were doing great creative portraits of each other, and their art work decorated not only the class room, but the cafeteria, as well. However, the principal was furious that they were a bit noisy. When I asked him, "don't you care about results?" His response, as he pounded the table, "I don't care about results, I care about discipline!" My response to him was, "with discipline like that, you will have armed guards in the classroom within 5 years." He fired me....This is only one of the reasons we now have to talk about gun control. For new ideas about REAL education, find the free download of "Self-Discovery Science" at, or the book for sale on amazon: "Radiant Minds: Scientists Explore the Dimensions of Consciousness."
+12 # Texas Aggie 2013-01-16 16:53
He must have been cloned and distributed to schools throughout Texas.
+50 # CL38 2013-01-16 13:57
I can't imagine the NRA directing such an outrageous personal attack against a white President.

It's a measure of how out of control racism -- and extreme corporate attitudes are, that the NRA has no reservations about posting ads like these.

The NRA should be publicly censured.
+20 # BradFromSalem 2013-01-16 14:39

Imagine what will happen when we get a woman president or how about this? An Hispanic Jewish Woman? The bigots will have field day. This little ad is going to backfire like everything else the NRA has been doing lately. I think they have jumped the shark, lets hope Congress knows that since they are usually at best 2 years behind the people.
+2 # moreover 2013-01-17 18:01
I heard Molly Ivins in Boulder the year before she died. Asked about Hillary Clinton's run for the presidency she said that traveling the country (and living in Texas) she was extremely worried that Clinton would be assassinated if she won. That was the level of hatred.
+9 # KittatinyHawk 2013-01-16 14:41
I just hope more and more people refuse to belong to them.

I do not believe in Censure that is what they want to do to Us. We would be weeded out by them and their phony Churches...pass the plate and ammunition we gonna kill us some folks tonite boys...sing it again
+10 # Texas Aggie 2013-01-16 16:52
What?!! You don't remember how outraged the NRA was when the Bush twins got SS protection, even when they went to a disco in Buenos Aires? I missed it, too, but I'm sure they must have been outraged, no?
-47 # kerryle00 2013-01-16 14:08
I'm shocked...shock ed that so many on this board are completely oblivious to reality or so caught up in minutiae, that they can't see the forest for the trees. Don't your own children deserve the same security consideratios as our President or is it that some people are simply more entitled than others? Enjoy your cake!
+6 # CL38 2013-01-16 14:35
They just don't care. They have another agenda: profit!!!
+27 # BradFromSalem 2013-01-16 15:10
My children deserved the best when they were in school, and they deserve that now that they are adults.

The best does not mean having to go to school in armed prison camp. Having the best means living free to run and play, it means my wife can walk to the store in the evening and not have to cross the street when she sees a stranger approaching on her side of the street. The more we armor up the more deadly violence becomes the norm. Thats real violence when kids go to school and have to pass armed guards just to enter the building. That is not the make believe violence in a video game that you people want to blame. Its real and having armed guards everywhere only leads to more deaths of innocent people. Until you understand that, fear will eat at your soul. Let the children and all of us run free. Free of guns and violence.
-35 # 2013-01-16 15:29
Aren't I as important as the President of the United States? So don't I deserve the same kind of 24/7 protection he gets at the public expense?
+14 # BradFromSalem 2013-01-16 15:49
If everyone got the same protection, who wouldprotect the protectors? Don't they deserve the same protection as you do?
+18 # cjhutch53 2013-01-16 16:06
ARE YOU the President? Do you receive 30 to 40 death threats against you and your family on a daily basis?? That is the real question, and the real answer should be obvious, even to the oblivious.
+11 # Cassandra2012 2013-01-16 16:33
No... you're not. (Unless you suddenly are leader of the 'free world' or have a rather inflated view of yourself?)
ALL Presidents need protection for themselves and their families and HAVE had that.... Why is this suddenly an issue? -- because you didn't vote for him? or because he is black? Why should Bush's daughters or Cheney's daughter , or Reagan's son get protection at the public's expense would be a much more cogent question.
+11 # Texas Aggie 2013-01-16 16:47
Aren't I as important as the President of the United States?

In a word, no.
+14 # Texas Aggie 2013-01-16 16:48
My kids don't get daily death threats. Do yours?
+8 # Pickwicky 2013-01-16 17:56
Texas Aggie--thanks for being truthful and factual.
+10 # Pickwicky 2013-01-16 17:46
Kerry--I doubt that Iranian agents would kidnap your children in order to force you to make a policy decision contrary to the best interests of the USA. Further, can you imagine what the cost to our country would be if the President's children were kidnapped? Arguably, such an event could change the future. Please think beyond yourself--you may be the true minutiae.
+8 # cjhutch53 2013-01-16 18:38
If you are truly shocked, which I doubt, it is because you aren't thinking, or reading responses to your accusation. This is the president. This is something that has been available for all presidents and their families because they are the target for all the nuts. They are actually under the threat of danger on a daily basis. You are not. That is all the explanation you should need. And now, you should be embarrassed to have made such a silly statement and go crawl back under your rock until you learn something or learn some thinking skills.
+1 # TrueAmericanPatriot 2013-01-18 10:20
Quoting kerryle00:
I'm shocked...shocked that so many on this board are completely oblivious to reality or so caught up in minutiae, that they can't see the forest for the trees. Don't your own children deserve the same security consideratios as our President or is it that some people are simply more entitled than others? Enjoy your cake!

Would you like to pay for it in the form of a tax increase, Einstein?
+20 # America 2013-01-16 14:36
The NRA is the elitist group. Their decades of mind control over millions of people is over and they just can't take that.
Their under belly has been exposed and now democracy is being applied. They are resorting to low down tactics but the American people will only be disgusted. Their demise is at hand.
+15 # cjhutch53 2013-01-16 15:47
Here is hoping! The NRA is a dangerous organization, and frankly, some Americans respond to them almost like a cult. Scary.
+8 # Pickwicky 2013-01-16 17:50
America--I believe your disgust for the NRA is well deserved. The NRA's 'under belly' is an ugly sight. Unfortunately, that rotten under belly has swelled in membership since the Sandy Hook shooting. It's a sad, sad fact.
+21 # politicfix 2013-01-16 14:37
The children of all Presidents have been protected for numerous reasons and by the Secret Service not the police. The President is trying to figure out how to protect the rest of the children in this country. Putting a policeman at the door of every school? If someone approached with and AK or whatever type of military gun, he'd be killed before he got off one shot. A person who has a gun and goes into the woods to hunt has maybe 10 shots in his gun, Who in their right mind is going into the woods knowing someone is out there with this AK weapon? It's a small percentage of the NRA that is responsible for this ad. You can own a gun without belonging to the NRA. It wouldn't surprise me if they begin losing their membership simply because the people running the NRA are inept of their reasoning faculties. The people responsible for this ad are egotistic, selfish and mentally unstable. Hey, isn't that the type of person we're suppose to keep guns away from?
-24 # MendoChuck 2013-01-16 14:50
Once you accept the fact that some folks are more privileged than others that you are already a subject of that person.

Just in case you didn't noticed "special protection" has been granted to all previous presidents and also to all elected officials in Washington DC.

I was of the opinion that once they had served there terms they were supposed to return to civilian life. I guess there are a lot of folks that believe that they are indeed the privileged elite.

SIGH . . . . All subjects will bow down in reverence, submission . . . .
+23 # AnastasiaP 2013-01-16 15:05
I wonder if they would call George Bush a "hypocrite" because his daughter had Secret Service protection, yet he never advocated for ALL children to be protected by personal armed security. What part of "these specific children are high-profile targets whose kidnapping could have international repercussions" don't they understand? The NRA is teetering dangerously close to being a terrorist group.
+13 # cjhutch53 2013-01-16 15:51
On the nose!
+18 # cjhutch53 2013-01-16 15:46
I hate to point out the obvious to some of the reactionary, paranoid and incredibly gullible people here, but he is the PRESIDENT. Like any president, he and his family are subject to death threats on a daily basis, unlike the average person. In addition, thanks to lots of racism and birther bs, baloney on the part of Fox, Rush, Glenn, et al and their constant attempts to escalate the paranoid, gullible, reactionary rhetoric such as I see here, President Obama gets even more. Frankly, I should not have to point out this basic and obvious difference. Perhaps if some of you developed some critical thinking skills and put a leash on your paranoid and knee-jerk reactions this would not be the case. In other words, RWNJ's-grow up-PLEASE!
+10 # cjhutch53 2013-01-16 15:58
I hate to point out the obvious to some of the reactionary, paranoid and incredibly gullible people here, but he is the PRESIDENT. Like any president, he and his family are subject to death threats on a daily basis, unlike the average person. In addition, thanks to lots of racism and birthers, baloney on the part of Fox, Rush, Glenn, et al and their constant attempts to prepetuate the paranoid, gullible, reactionary rhetoric such as I see here, he gets even more. Frankly, I think this should be obvious and should not HAVE to be stated. But I see others of stated it as well and still some ignore or refuse to address this important and relevant difference. Perhaps if some of you put a leash on your paranoid and knee-jerk reactions this would not be the case.
+6 # Pickwicky 2013-01-16 17:52
cjhutch53--well worth saying twice!!!
+10 # Margarita Logan 2013-01-16 16:30
For starters I would make the NRA extremists, all the right or left wing conspiracy theorists and assorted criters with their same mind set (Limbaugh et al including Alex whatever who predicted that "1976 will rise again" on Piers Morgan a few nights ago) have to undergo a mental health evaluation. After all, they exhibit several of the main traits that characterize folks diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, to wit: dellusional thinking, extreme paranoia, irrationality and a deterioration from prior levels of functioning (among other traits). With the new emphasis on identifying those too mentally unstable to own a gun this would be a good beginning.
+11 # Texas Aggie 2013-01-16 16:45
These are the same individuals who had a hissy fit when it was reported that Rand Paul's kid was caught drunk and disorderly on an airplane. Then it was flat out wrong to bring a public servant's kid into the discussion. Now something must have happened to change the rules. I wonder what?
0 # ghostperson 2013-01-19 18:03
Nothing has happened. It's just the Obama exception to every right wing rule claimed for themselves. Don't ask for consistency because you won't find it in the diatribes.

On a separate them, I was opening my email account and saw a photo of the first lady with a new hair cut. I enlarged it to see what it looked like and reviewed the comments. I was taken aback. Not a single comment was neutral. It was all vitriolic, hate-laden screed that whirled out of control to one that libelously labeled the first lady a disbarred lawyer.

On the left, I have seen angry and contemptuous comments but I just don't ever see the outright lies that fly in the face of documented, recorded and easily verifiable facts.

Below another article, I saw a stacked tirade of long-debunked bull shit laid out as though truth itself. What is it that causes this? Tin foil hats too tight or on crooked.

I like facts and if I think Obama and other Democrats says something that is cognitively dissonant, I research it. I do the same to the GOP because I want to know the truth. So far I see more distortion on the right than the left and am usually torqued off then the left does it. Like Joe Friday, "The facts, Ma'am, just the facts." That's all I want. I will form my own conclusions.
+5 # colpow 2013-01-16 17:00
It's a photo of the NRA's hitlist.
0 # ishmael 2013-01-16 22:08
Well, the "hit list" would have to include all non-Aryans minus a few selected tokens "outside the gene pool".
-11 # rradiof 2013-01-16 18:13
Just a few facts to add to this discussion. Sidwell Friends School has a security department of at least eleven people. Many of those security personnel are police officers, who are presumably armed. The secret service contingent for the Obama daughters are in addition to Sidwell's security force. Moreover, before Obama was elected president he resided in Chicago and his daughters attended The University of Chicago Laboratory School where students and staff have been protected by at least one armed security guard for several years. It is a fact that these elite private schools do not hesitate to protect their students and staff with armed security guards. The controversial advertisement is accurate. Over and out.
+5 # ishmael 2013-01-16 18:30
Mixed feelings as to whether the WH should even have acknowledged the ad. It is the work of hate-filled people who have little use for rational thought.

Deport them to Afghanistan with the equivalent of $3.00 in their pocket.
+11 # bsager892 2013-01-16 18:36
I'm in AZ where Arpio's armed "posse" is patrolling all the schools in the county. Most of the school officials didn't know this until they saw it on the news or they showed up at their schools. What's stopping someone from posing as an armed posse member? The schedules of the armed guards is only known to Arpio for "security reasons" so how do school officials know if the ones that show up are real or not?:
0 # ghostperson 2013-01-19 17:51
Arrapaio is so busy playing immigation officer and policing schools that he can't remember that it is his job to prosecute criminals who viciously assault and rape women. He is very selective in his "choices" of who and what to protect. Usually, they are those that will attract a media crew.
+3 # ishmael 2013-01-16 19:07
People don't ever discuss that a lunatic wil be sure to take out any armed guards first, then proceed with "the rest of the mission".
+7 # ishmael 2013-01-16 19:18
Say what you want about Israel, their gun laws are sane. Rigorous definitions of who can own, and limited to 50 rounds per year.

The US has sooooooo much to learn from the international community.

But like a spoiled little brat, and having fought in "World" War II - to its credit helping get rid of some fascists - it is no longer the same place. Yet the US is curiously unwilling to learn.
+1 # cjhutch53 2013-01-18 11:08
I have noticed this as well. The whole "American exceptionalism" thing has progressed to the point where many in this country believe they are somehow superior to anyone from another country. If we had to work with someone with that attitude, that spent most of their time proclaiming loudly just how great and superior they were, they would find themselves eventually beat to a pulp behind the building. We are a young country, relatively speaking. We do many things well, but we also have no clue and royally screw up a lot of things and could stand to learn from other countries who have been through it. There is no shame in making mistakes and learning from those mistakes, or with learning from others what NOT to do, but many in this country seem to feel we are "above" that. It is a sorry state to be in.
+8 # Bodoc 2013-01-16 20:28
Amazing how those who complain about "Socialism" want equal distribution of security assets.

Amazing how those who believe that all children/school s should have equivalent Secret Service protection put nothing on the table in the form of taxes to pay for it.
+3 # Rick Levy 2013-01-16 21:15
The trouble with the gun-nuts is that they are not at risk for being murdered. What a pity.
+3 # Mannstein 2013-01-16 22:44
The NRA is shooting itself in the foot using their own guns. It takes brains.
+7 # ishmael 2013-01-16 23:12
The far right has had an evolution from the KKK and John Birchers, then the "moral majority", Aryan Nations, survivalists, teabaggers in 2007 and then in 2013 using the NRA, a gun lobby, to be spokesmen (the NRA seems to have no women execs). They just keep getting more militant and threatening to society; at least that is the image they are attempting to put forth.

Why don't they quit pussyfooting around and just strap on some swastica armbands, goosestepping all around the country's capital.

At least they'd be able to "come out" with honesty and forthrightness, which would be cathartic.
+3 # Dion Giles 2013-01-17 03:32
"Why don't they quit pussyfooting around and just strap on some swastica armbands, goosestepping all around the country's capital."
That's not meant to happen till after the coup.
0 # memo 2013-01-17 06:47
January 18
Secret Service protection for the President of the USA and his famiy is not a favor nor a request. It is automatically provided by the Federal Government to all presidents and their families. The NRA is a disgusting, despicable organization. It should be banned for inciting hatred and violence. What is the solution to owning weapons? REPEAL THE SECOND AMENDMENT as we did Prohibition. No one has the "right to bear arms" anywhere, anytime and with any weapon. That's bullshit. NRA brain washing. The Founding Fathers never had such an intention.
A law abiding American living in Istanbul, Turkey
-12 # cordleycoit 2013-01-17 11:00
What gets me is that Obama could never pass a background check. His birth certificate missing all school and collage records absent. Law license missing in action.No passport records gone. We know more about Jefferson than we do Obama.
+1 # cjhutch53 2013-01-18 11:10
You and your paranoid, easily manipulated and racist ilk need to just give it up and go away.
0 # ghostperson 2013-01-19 17:47
What universe do you live in that you manage to be devoid the ability to register facts well-proved?
+2 # MarjG 2013-01-17 17:24
This despicable ad that would stupidly deny protection to an increased threat to a president's children, is more about stoking Obama hate and fundraising off of that hate.
+3 # PABLO DIABLO 2013-01-17 18:53
I wouldn't trust Wayne Lapierre with a gun. He is mentally unbalanced.
+2 # hammermann 2013-01-18 09:55
Even talking about BO's kids' security endangers them. Extremist dirtbag La Pierre and his pals in charge should be targeted for removal by the sane NRA membership, before they are declared a terrorist org.

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