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Excerpt: "After a series of violent episodes and setbacks, support for the war in Afghanistan has dropped sharply among both Republicans and Democrats, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll. The survey found that more than two-thirds of those polled - 69 percent - thought that the United States should not be at war in Afghanistan."

Soldiers place flags in front of headstones during 'Flags In,' in honor of Memorial Day at Arlington National Cemetery in Arlington, Virginia, 05/27/10. (photo: Roger L. Wollenberg/UPI)
Soldiers place flags in front of headstones during 'Flags In,' in honor of Memorial Day at Arlington National Cemetery in Arlington, Virginia, 05/27/10. (photo: Roger L. Wollenberg/UPI)

Support in US for Afghan War Drops Sharply, Poll Finds

By Elisabeth Bumiller and Allison Kopicki, The New York Times

27 March 12


fter a series of violent episodes and setbacks, support for the war in Afghanistan has dropped sharply among both Republicans and Democrats, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.

The survey found that more than two-thirds of those polled - 69 percent - thought that the United States should not be at war in Afghanistan. Just four months ago, 53 percent said that Americans should no longer be fighting in the conflict, more than a decade old.

The increased disillusionment was even more pronounced when respondents were asked their impressions of how the war was going. The poll found that 68 percent thought the fighting was going "somewhat badly" or "very badly," compared with 42 percent who had those impressions in November.

The latest poll was conducted by telephone from March 21 to 25 with 986 adults nationwide. It has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.

The Times/CBS News poll was consistent with other surveys this month that showed a drop in support for the war. In a Washington Post/ABC News poll, 60 percent of respondents said the war in Afghanistan had not been worth the fighting, while 57 percent in a Pew Research Center poll said that the United States should bring home American troops as soon as possible. In a Gallup/USA Today poll, 50 percent of respondents said the United States should speed up the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Negative impressions of the war have grown among Republicans as well as Democrats, according to the Times/CBS News poll. Among Republicans, 60 percent said the war was going somewhat or very badly, compared with 40 percent in November. Among Democrats, 68 percent said the war was going somewhat or very badly, compared with 38 percent in November. But the poll found that Republicans were more likely to want to stay in Afghanistan for as long as it would take to stabilize the situation: 3 in 10 said the United States should stay, compared with 2 in 10 independents and 1 in 10 Democrats.

Republicans themselves are divided, however, over when to leave, with a plurality, 40 percent, saying the United States should withdraw earlier than the end of 2014, when under an agreement with the Afghan government all American troops are to be out of the country.

The poll comes as the White House is weighing options for speeding up troop withdrawals and in the wake of bad news from the battlefield, including accusations that a United States Army staff sergeant killed 17 Afghan civilians and violence set off by the burning last month of Korans by American troops.

The poll also follows a number of high-profile killings of American troops by their Afghan partners - a trend that the top American commander in Afghanistan suggested on Monday was likely to continue.

"It is a characteristic of this kind of warfare," Gen. John R. Allen, the commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, told reporters at a Pentagon news conference. He said that in a counterinsurgency conflict like the one in Afghanistan, where American forces are fighting insurgents while training Afghan security forces, "the enemy's going to do all that they can to disrupt both the counterinsurgency operation, but also disrupt the integrity of the indigenous forces." American commanders say that the Taliban have in some cases infiltrated Afghan security forces to attack Americans, but that most cases are a result of personal disputes between Afghans and their American trainers.

In follow-up interviews, a number of poll respondents said they were weary after more than a decade of war in Afghanistan, and impatient with the slow progress of Afghan security forces. "I think we should speed up when we're bringing our troops home," said Melisa Clemmons, 52, a Republican and a coordinator for a wireless carrier system from Summerville, S.C. "If we've been there as many years as we've been there, what's another two years going to get us?" she asked, adding, "These Afghanistan people are turning around and shooting our people. Why is it taking this long for the Afghan troops to be policing themselves?"

Paul Fisher, 53, a Republican from Grapevine, Tex., who works in the pharmaceutical business, said the United States should no longer be involved in the war, although he opposed setting a specific timetable. "After a while enough is enough, and we need to get out and move on and let Afghanistan stand on its own merits," he said.

Peter Feaver of Duke University, who has long studied public opinion about war and worked in the administration of President George W. Bush, said that in his view there would be more support for the war if President Obama talked more about it. "He has not expended much political capital in defense of his policy," Mr. Feaver said. "He doesn't talk about winning in 2014; he talks about leaving in 2014. In a sense that protects him from an attack from the left, but I would think it has the pernicious effect of softening political support for the existing policy."

The drop in support for the war among Republican poll respondents mirrors reassessments of the war among the party's presidential candidates, traditionally more hawkish than Democrats. Newt Gingrich declared this month that it was time to leave Afghanistan, while Rick Santorum said that one option would be to withdraw even earlier than the Obama administration's timeline. Mitt Romney has been more equivocal, although he said last summer that it was "time for us to bring our troops home as soon as we possibly can, as soon as our generals think it's O.K."

Michael E. O'Hanlon, a military expert at the Brookings Institution who is close to American commanders in Afghanistan, said that the opinion polls reflected a lack of awareness of the current policy, which calls for slowly turning over portions of the country to Afghan security forces, like the southern provinces, where American troops have tamped down the violence.

"I honestly believe if more people understood that there is a strategy and intended sequence of events with an end in sight, they would be tolerant," Mr. O'Hanlon said. "The overall image of this war is of U.S. troops mired in quicksand and getting blown up and arbitrarily waiting until 2014 to come home. Of course you'd be against it."

Among poll respondents, 44 percent said that the United States should withdraw sooner than 2014, while 33 percent said the administration should stick to the current timetable, 17 percent said the United States should stay as long as it would take to stabilize the current situation and 3 percent said the United States should withdraw now. your social media marketing partner


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+15 # MidwestTom 2012-03-27 21:51
Get all of our troops out of Afghanistan now,thus ending that war, and then get our troops out of Israel so we can avoid the next war.
+13 # coffeewriter 2012-03-27 22:16
Is it the realization that war is not fun? That it is a deadly, ugly monster?

America should never have gone to Afghanistan in the first place. Although I agree that a Taliban government would be oppressive to women, the people of Afghanistan should have been left to decide what rule they want. There are many oppressive nations that America has left alone. Because they lack minerals/ access to oil and oil pipelines from the middle east.

One example is North Korea - they are the most oppressive nation in the world but the US doesn't care as long as they have no resources and don't build atomic bombs (even though its fine for the US to have them!).

The hypocrisy and death-mongering of the US is sickening.
+4 # pbbrodie 2012-03-28 08:17
North Korea did build and explode a nuclear bomb, which just makes your point even stronger.
What exactly is the mission there and what is the US trying to accomplish? Someone mentioned something about winning but winning what?
+6 # btbees 2012-03-27 23:07
First, let us stop using the term “wars”. They are “military conflicts of choice” for corporate profit. As often referred to, Dwight Eisenhower's farewell address where he expressed concern over the growing military industrial complex. His worst fears have become reality, an out of control military industrial complex combined with a corrupt Congress. We now find ourselves in the business of war!
+1 # John Locke 2012-03-28 10:07
We have been in some form of military conflict practically every year since the republic was founded. It's time to rethink how we as a nation will move forward, or even if we will. The problem is that our young men are drawn to the military, partly due to this is where enlistment propaganda is begun.
0 # MidwestTom 2012-03-28 06:11
Do not forget Zimbabwe, where Mugabe has driven out all white people, because they are white, and then totally destroyed the economy. Why is a black president not spending more effort to help black Africa. The Chinese are falling over themselves trying to take over Africa's wealth of minerals and oil; and they are doing it without firing a bullet.

So far our diplomacy in the middle east has resulted in nothing of value, and cost us billions of dollars and thousands of lives.
+2 # Billy Bob 2012-03-28 09:41
Oh No! We can't let someone ELSE beat us to the punch pillaging resources from 3rd world countries!!!


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