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Giuliani: 'So What' if Trump and Cohen Discussed Testimony
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Sunday, 20 January 2019 14:40

Excerpt: "President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani left open Sunday the possibility that Trump and former personal attorney Michael Cohen might have discussed Cohen's congressional testimony."

Rudy Giuliani. (photo: Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
Rudy Giuliani. (photo: Drew Angerer/Getty Images)

Giuliani: 'So What' if Trump and Cohen Discussed Testimony

By Associated Press

20 January 19


resident Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani left open Sunday the possibility that Trump and former personal attorney Michael Cohen might have discussed Cohen’s congressional testimony.

But, he added, “so what” if he did?

Giuliani appeared Sunday on CNN, where he said he did not know if Trump had discussed with Cohen a 2017 congressional interview at which Cohen has admitted lying about a Trump Tower real estate project in Moscow. He also acknowledged in a separate interview with NBC News that conversations about that project stretched throughout 2016, including possibly up until October or November of that year.

The question arose in light of a Buzzfeed News report from last week that said Trump had instructed Cohen to lie to Congress and that Cohen relayed that to special counsel Robert Mueller’s team of investigators. Mueller’s office took the unusual step of issuing a statement disputing the story.

Giuliani said on interviews with CNN and NBC News that Trump never directed Cohen to lie. But on CNN he acknowledged the possibility that Trump and Cohen might have discussed Cohen’s testimony, saying that while he had no knowledge of such a conversation, he wasn’t ruling it out.

“I don’t know if it happened or didn’t happen,” Giuliani said, later adding, “And so what if he talked to him about it?”

Giuliani’s suggestion to NBC that dialogue about the Trump Tower project could have stretched into the fall of 2016 extends the timeline beyond what the president has publicly acknowledged. Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to Congress by saying that he had abandoned the project in January 2016 even though prosecutors say he actually continued pursuing it into that June.

Giuliani said on NBC’s “Meet The Press” that Trump could recall having conversations with Cohen about the project throughout 2016, though there “weren’t a lot of them.”

“The president also remembers -- yeah, probably up -- could be up to as far as October, November,” Giuliani said. “Our answers cover until the election. So anytime during that period they could’ve talked about it. But the president’s recollection of it is that the, the thing had petered out quite a bit.”

Giuliani made a similar comment last month on ABC News when he suggested that the president knew that Cohen was pursuing the project well into 2016.

“According to the answer that he gave, it would have covered all the way up to — covered up to November, 2016. Said he had conversations with him but the president didn’t hide this,” Giuliani said.

Rep. Adam Schiff, a California Democrat and chairman of the House intelligence committee, said the panel planned to investigate why Cohen made false statements to Congress and determine what exactly Cohen and Trump might have discussed about his testimony.

“Congress has a has a fundamental interest in two things first in getting to the bottom of why a witness came before us and lied and who else was knowledgeable that this was a lie,” Schiff said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

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+5 # HarryP 2019-01-21 00:37
At the least, Rudy could have denied that Trump suborned purjory.
What kind of defense attorneys says, “so what” if my client told his (then) lawyer to lie to Congress under oath?
+1 # DongiC 2019-01-21 03:45
The mess in Washington gets messier. Now, Mueller makes his contribution. I don't see how America is becoming great again. Rather, more divided and angry. Is this Trump's real objective? Sew confusion and fear before you strike at the Constitution and Bill of Rights? I wonder how our great communicator defines "great", something that is real good for the country or just for himself?
+2 # Texas Aggie 2019-01-21 08:16
So what?

Don't I remember a conversation that Bill Clinton had on the runway with Loretta Lynch? Didn't that raise a storm of anger over messing with legal proceedings? And encouraging Cohen to prevaricate is any different?
0 # Robbee 2019-01-21 10:50
Giuliani: 'So What' if Trump and Cohen Discussed Testimony, 20 January 19

the noose tightens? what does putin's comrade say?

either they are out to get us, or i am paranoid - here is my brand-new conspiracy theory -

mueller's team is notoriously close lipped? - yet buzzfeed exposes a leak by two government officials, who, if not under mueller's direct control, must be among his allies in ny prosecutor's office, pursuing stormy daniels' campaign-relate d pay -

1) what prompts a team player to leak proof that dickhead ordered his attorney to lie to congress?


2) what prompts mueller immediately to deny the accuracy of the leak?

muellerr is behind the cover-up?

i salute schiff for signalling his intent to get to the bottom of this huge story of dickhead ordering a lie to congress!

putin's comrade will say that there is no "there there"?

if mueller reenacts a classic "rosemary woods" maneuver? - loses the confirming emails, texts, and computer trail?

then who is to say whether to believe cohen? or dickhead? both known liars!
0 # lfeuille 2019-01-21 16:55
That depends. If Trump told Cohen to lie or hinted around that it would my him (Trump) happy is Cohen shaded the truth in any way that is obstruction of justice. Just the fact of a conversation of the subject makes it a valid target of investigation. Does anyone really thing Trump would say "Now Michael, make sure you tell the whole truth to Congress"?