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Excerpt: "'Fahrenheit 11/9' - That's the name of the new documentary premiering today by Oscar-winning filmmaker Michael Moore, a stunning retelling of the 2016 election and its aftermath, 11/9. That's November 9, the day Donald Trump won the 2016 presidential election."

Filmmaker Michael Moore. (photo: The New York Times)
Filmmaker Michael Moore. (photo: The New York Times)


Michael Moore v. Donald Trump in "Fahrenheit 11/9": New Film Warns Our Democracy Is at Risk

By Democracy Now!

21 September 18

 

ahrenheit 11/9—That’s the name of the new documentary premiering today by Oscar-winning filmmaker Michael Moore, a stunning retelling of the 2016 election and its aftermath. 11/9. That’s November 9th, the day Donald Trump won the 2016 presidential election. In the film, Michael crosses the country, documenting not only the rise of Trumpism but also the teachers’ strikes sweeping the nation, the “blue wave” of progressive candidates in the 2018 primaries, the rise of student activism after the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, and the water crisis in his hometown of Flint, Michigan. Moore spares no one in the wide-ranging documentary, which takes aim at the Democratic establishment, the New York Times and other mainstream media outlets, the electoral college, Barack Obama, Donald Trump and even himself. Michael Moore joins us in our studio to talk about the film and much more.

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AMY GOODMAN: This is Democracy Now!, Democracynow.org, The War and Peace Report. I’m Amy Goodman. Fahrenheit 11/9—that’s the name of the new documentary by Oscar-winning filmmaker Michael Moore, a stunning retelling of the 2016 election and its aftermath. 11/9—that’s November 9th, the day Donald Trump won the 2016 presidential election.

In the film, Michael Moore crosses the country, documenting not only the rise of Trumpism but also the teacher strikes sweeping the nation, the “blue wave” of progressive candidates in the 2018 primaries, the rise of student activism after the school shooting in Parkland, Florida and the water crisis in his hometown of Flint, Michigan. Michael Moore spares no one in the wide-ranging documentary, which takes aim at the Democratic establishment, The New York Times and other mainstream media outlets, the electoral college, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and even himself. Here’s the trailer to Fahrenheit 11/9.

MICHAEL MOORE: How did this happen?

UNKNOWN: I’m sick and tired of people telling me that America is the greatest country. Because we can whip your ass?

DONALD TRUMP: I hate some of these people, but I’d never kill them.

DAVID HOGG: How do you deal with this? You are never going to be able to unsee what you saw.

ROGER STONE: Try to impeach him. Just try it. You will have a spasm of violence in this country like you’ve never seen.

MICHAEL MOORE: Governor Snyder, I’ve got some Flint water for you.

MARIO SAVIO: When the operation of the machine becomes so odious, you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels and you’ve got to make it stop!

ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ: If nobody’s gonna do it, then I gotta do it!

UNKNOWN: And I don’t give a fuck who you are. I will fight you in the damn street right now.

MICHAEL MOORE: OK, well, um—um—

MICHAEL MOORE: How the [beep] did this happen?

DONALD TRUMP: The American dream—is dead.

DONALD TRUMP: Stop resisting.

STEPHEN MILLER: The president’s powers here are beyond question.

MICHAEL MOORE: Ladies and gentlemen, the last president of the United States.

UNKNOWN: Coming to an American city near you.

AMY GOODMAN: The trailer to Michael Moore’s new film, Fahrenheit 11/9. It opens today in 1,800 theaters across the country. Well, earlier this week, Michael joined us in our studio. I began by asking him about the making of the film and if it is a sequel to his 2004 blockbuster, Fahrenheit 9/11 about George W. Bush.

MICHAEL MOORE: It’s not a sequel. The title just sort of came to us because Trump was declared president by the Associated Press at 2:29 in the morning on 11/9/16. But it is a cousin to that film in the sense that when Bush was installed in the White House and had us in a couple of wars fairly quickly, we were in pretty bad shape. So Fahrenheit 9/11 grew out of a desire to try and halt his efforts, especially the war effort.

We are in a different kind of war now. We are in a war with not just an individual who has taken over the White House—because again he wasn’t elected, but he was appointed by the electoral college—but Trump is the result of decades, decades of us allowing this country to go down a road that had very little to do with democracy and equal rights and what was fair, and very much toward letting the rich, letting corporate America, Wall Street run the show and call the shots.

So when I say, for instance, that Donald Trump doesn’t care much about democracy and is trying to whittle away whatever he can of what we call our democracy, that’s really, to be fair to him, not really unusual. He is a CEO. He is a billionaire. Generally, CEO’s don’t run their businesses like democracies. They don’t like democracy. That’s not how they live. It’s not how they run their business. And as billionaires, they want to grab as much of the pie for themselves as possible. So they are not into everybody having a slice of the pie or a fair slice of the pie or a seat at the table. So he is really just acting like most people of his class.

I’ve got to believe if you are a billionaire, you’ve got to really hate a system that says it’s one person, one vote. Because if we really are one person, one vote, that means there’s 325 million of us and probably less than 1,000 of them. Imagine if you were on the other side, if you were one of them. That doesn’t look very good. Because it means that 325 million can just suddenly pass laws and tell you what to do.

So the basic concept of our democracy is that, but they know that they have been able to run that show because they’ve bought it. They buy the politicians, they buy the elections and they have most working people in such a box that they know that if they were to protest, if they were to speak out, if they were to whistle-blow, that would be the end of their income.

And starting with Bill Clinton, we began eliminating the safety net when you don’t have an income. And so, we are now at the point where they’ve got those 325 million right where they want them—scared that they aren’t going to be able to pay next month’s bills. The best statistic I saw recently—maybe you saw it—that the majority of Americans, almost 67 percent, do not have enough money in the bank or their pocket to, if a loved one passed away tonight, and they lived here in New York, and the loved one was in California, they don’t have the money for the plane ticket to go to California. In other words, they don’t have—the majority of Americans don’t have $400 to $500 available in any form to them at any moment.

That is the America we live in, and boy, does the billionaire class love that, because that is when you’ve got them. You don’t ever think about, when you are in that situation, of complaining about what is going on, starting a union or taking the day off to go to the funeral of a loved one.
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+7 # Inspired Citizen 2018-09-21 18:41
Trump is a threat to our democratic order, but he doesn't hold a candle to every establishment politician who ever expressed support for the now trashed Trans-Pacific Partnership.

Because the way the media narrates and blocks information, the mass media in U.S. never had critics outside of Ed Schultz who got fired for his criticisms of TPP. So-called "free-trade agreements" are massive power transfers from our representatives at all three levels of government to ultimately, international, private "tribunals" of judges who also serve as defenders of trans-national corporations.

The neoliberal Democrats and Republicans (the duopoly) are FAR more dangerous than anything Trump has proposed so far. That's who Michael Moore supported in 2016 after Bernie was cheated. He's a Democrat first and a revolutionary.. .not at all.

To be fair, maybe Moore doesn't understand what "free-trade" is becoming under the neoliberal world order. These power elites are coming for our republic and Constitution and the "left" from Moore to Maher are supporting it using Trump as an excuse. Trump is very REVOLTING, but the neoliberals, from the Clintons to Obama, are far more DANGEROUS to the U.S. form of representative government. Trump voters saved us from a massive corporate power grab disguised as "free-trade." The TPP would have been nothing short of Trans-National Corporate form of self-government . Legal corporate supremacy. That's why revolution and why RAP used Bernie or Bust strategy.
 
 
+17 # Working Class 2018-09-21 19:04
Yep - as Will Rogers said "we have the best government money can buy."
 
 
+5 # chapdrum 2018-09-23 09:59
The revelation that during the Obama admin., Flint was used as military target and training practice, WITHOUT informing any of its citizens in advance, was a punch to the gut.
 
 
+6 # futhark 2018-09-23 10:58
I heard this interview on Democracy Now! One of the most disturbing assertions that Mr. Moore made was that a majority of self-identified Republicans would not object if President Trump decided to postpone the 2020 elections. To do so would be a clear violation of the Constitution and a very big step toward fascist dictatorship. Well, maybe that is what they really want and the sooner the better.

They are unalterably opposed to anything that smacks of socialism for the betterment of the majority, yet at the same time crave, in the words of George and Ira Gershwin's ballad "Someone to Watch Over Me".
 
 
+1 # SOF 2018-09-23 19:07
MARIO SAVIO: When the operation of the machine becomes so odious, you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels and you’ve got to make it stop!