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Krugman writes: "So we're hearing a lot of people - including some alleged progressives - declaring that you can't criticize the way we've run our economy for the past 30 years. Why not?"

Portrait, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, 06/15/09. (photo: Fred R. Conrad/NYT)
Portrait, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, 06/15/09. (photo: Fred R. Conrad/NYT)



Finance Capitalism

By Paul Krugman, The New York Times

19 July 12

 

ne more point about this whole business of “attacking capitalism“: to the extent that Obama is attacking anything other than Mitt Romney, he’s questioning a system in which the financial sector has grown to an unprecedented share of the economy (pdf):

So we’re hearing a lot of people - including some alleged progressives - declaring that you can’t criticize the way we’ve run our economy for the past 30 years. Why not? The metastasizing finance sector eventually led us into the worst economic catastrophe since the Great Depression; that seems reason enough to question the model.

And bear in mind that Mitt Romney has pledged to repeal financial reform. It seems to me that in the wake of the global financial crisis, that - not Obama’s very mild reformism - is the radical position.

 

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+58 # Bodiotoo 2012-07-18 21:32
Romney's brand of capitalism is a monopoly game not production capitalism...hi m and his friends are not concerned about the little people. It is all about them having it all.
When are the bankers going to jail!?
 
 
+41 # fredboy 2012-07-19 04:10
If financial reform is abandoned it will lead to certain collapse. We all know this. It would be a "last grab" at the chips before the table turns over--or collapses. Then real hell erupts.
 
 
-3 # MidwestTom 2012-07-19 04:46
So neither candidate is going to actually attack the way Wall Street works, and the rest of us are doomed to become more enslaved to the bankers. It is a pity that the Media hated Ron Paul, he was the only candidate addressing what needed to be done to Wall Street.
 
 
+15 # paulrevere 2012-07-19 08:35
As I recall Kucinich drew the same media ignorance in '08.

Ron Paul is an anarchist at heart, but he does support reigning in the military industrial juggernaut which now threatens the sanctity and security of the entire planet.
 
 
+20 # Billy Bob 2012-07-19 16:53
I don't know about the "media", but I certainly hate the notion that destroying Social Security and closing all public schools is what you think "needs to be done".
 
 
0 # Livemike 2012-08-02 22:00
Quoting Billy Bob:
I don't know about the "media", but I certainly hate the notion that destroying Social Security and closing all public schools is what you think "needs to be done".

Why? What good does Social Security do? It taxes the poor for the benefit of the rich, imposes arbitrary retirement ages on people of vastly different genetics, life stresses and economic histories (the racial differences in lifespan alone would seem to discredit it) and hasn't really been funded for decades. Public schools have never helped literacy or education and indeed were not supposed to. They were designed to limit the ambition and skills of the majority to reduce competition for the elite. Before public schooling literacy was advancing by leaps and bounds.
 
 
0 # cordleycoit 2012-07-19 05:43
Why reform when we are at a point where the current economics are about to bottom out. There are several workable models it just finding on that fits today's world.
 
 
+42 # graybeard.tom 2012-07-19 06:02
i am an old union building trades representative, who 25 years ago was sharing an office with an older IBEW business manager who was pretty street smart. among the many things he told me was this gem:

"the only thing wrong with this country is that we have too many cream suckers."

i've always thought that he summed up the mass of our problems very succinctly. most of the "progress" evidenced in america over the past couple of generations has come in the ability of some folks to profit from the labor of other folks.
the financial sector is exhibit #1
 
 
+38 # bluemoonwoman 2012-07-19 06:33
The problems in America are far greater than the sum of it's parts. Where has our compassion gone? We have honored money, and people who make it to the exclusion of everything else: relationship to the land, to other people, to all life forms. And where are we at? In many spiritual communities, " water" represents Life, and Spirit. Now, most of the country is drying up from lack of water. I am reminded of the Native American saying, " What will the white man do when he realises he cannot eat money?" We have forgotten our hearts, and allowed people who are really thieves to run our country. The shame lies within us.
 
 
+32 # Trish42 2012-07-19 06:47
My grandfather was Native American, so maybe I have a genetic inclination that makes me relate to something other than money; that admonition about not being able to eat money ought to be on bumper stickers!! But my biggest fear is that like alcoholics the US will have to bottom out before we turn things around.
 
 
-59 # Robt Eagle 2012-07-19 08:55
Compassion? Conservatives give to charity way more than liberals because they have money and wish to help those less fortunate. The drought our country is suffering must be the work of the evil Conservatives because they have sucked all the water out of the sky for themselves, ya think? Maybe the Conservatives would actually create some jobs if they knew what to expect in the form of future taxes and/or expenses, but the Obama Administration has turned the country into turmoil and he pens new Executive Orders every other day without Congress to have any input. Seems to me it isn't the Wall Streeters who are causing all the problems, it is the Obama Administrations horrible policies over the past almost four years!
 
 
+37 # paulrevere 2012-07-19 09:14
No Robt Eagle...the problem you nor most any self proclaimed, stand on your own, I did it my way...or the highway, drown government proselytizers refuse to acknowledge is that this country has been built on a spirit of cooperation funded by WETHEPEOPLE in the belief that we were ALL working together to make a present and future circumstance BETTER.

That notion belies the 'I got mine', 'I got gawd and vitue' pap you and yours forever drivel dribble.

The fact is that parity, a level playing field etc CAN NOT happen when you and yours own all the gold, stolen from WETHEPEOPLE and make all the rules...get it?
 
 
+22 # Billy Bob 2012-07-19 16:52
What evidence do you have that conservatives give ANYTHING to charity, much less that they give more than liberals? Prove it.

Actually, the drought is just a sign of global warming. Conservatives actually did cause that and are unwilling to stop it or even acknowledge it exists.
 
 
+11 # tadn54 2012-07-19 17:07
Specify and enumerate these "horrible" policies.

"Absurd generalizations are easily concocted by fools"......... Jefferson


Executive Orders every other day? Which order was today and two days before today; I must've been sleepng. Can you show me the indisputable numbers from a reliable source that liberals are outspeent by cons in charirable donations?

Think before you make accusations and assumptions that are nothing but mindless talking points aimed at your gullible base.
 
 
-56 # Robt Eagle 2012-07-19 08:56
Krugman, how do you make a living by publishing this tripe?
 
 
+20 # Billy Bob 2012-07-19 16:50
How do you stand living with yourself after making comments like that?
 
 
+8 # MindDoc 2012-07-19 12:41
Very well-stated! I suppose the modern response to "let them eat money" , by the 1 percent that have most of it, might be, after the famine hits our shores: "No problem...we'll just have our buds at Monsanto engineer some 'food' - and water. Already some water" is chemically "purified", and 100% natural water may disappear sooner than solid food sources. No problem, those swimming in 97% or so of out country's collective wealth would just *drink* money too, and get good & drunk on it besides.

But would the entitled uber-rich really prefer eating & drinking altered products to choking on still more fresh-grown money?

I do think there's great wisdom and prescience in that Native American saying. If only the 1% could figure out how to have their money cake and eat it too. (Or maybe they have?)

Looks to me (from the graph) it's been non-stop growth in the financial sector since the end of WWII. And still going strong, even as the rest of us (non-corporate people) haven't enjoyed that trend line. And they whine about "lack of certainty?". Seems like a rigged game, with certain huge profits each and every year.
 
 
+38 # erogers 2012-07-19 06:43
I totally agree with graybeard.tom. A more appropriate name for that top group would be "cream skimmers". The greedy pigs can never have enough, do not give a damn about the working class and will continue to skim the cream while the rest get less and less. It is not just the financial sector, it is every corporation that outsources jobs claiming that doing so makes the company competitive. Bull!! It just puts more in their greedy pockets. What will they do once the middle class can no longer spend and buy products? Many are products they once made. Who do they start skimming next? How long before the very class of people that built this country declare, enough of this bull.
 
 
+5 # dkonstruction 2012-07-19 11:00
The problem with Krugman's analysis is that he makes it sound like the "financializati on" of the economy is something novel and new. This simply isn't true.

As Giovanni Arrighi shows in his important book "The Long Twentieth Century" this financializatio n has been a basic part of capitalist development for the past 500 years.

Taking a longer historical perspective allows one to clearly see that the same sort of financializatio n and domination by financial (money) capital we are experiencing today happened in very similar ways (though also with important distinctions) many times over the last 500 years or so of capitalist development (Arrighi goes back to the Italian City States).

According to Arrighi, each capitalist epoch comes to an end when finance overwhelms and comes to dominate trade and production. This happens because the "possibility of continuing to profit from the reinvestment of capital in the material expansion of the world economy has reached its limits." But, This 'financializatio n' is only a temporary respite for the current 'dominant regime of accumulation' and,historicall y, according to Arrighi, is the harbinger of its end.

Finally, these transitions from one from one 'regime of accumulation' to another is not merely a cyclical repitition. The new regime is always a fundamental reorganization of the capitalist world.

The question for us today is will capital reorganize the world or will we?
 
 
+7 # wrknight 2012-07-19 18:50
Not so. Krugman is always talking about why we don't learn from history. This depression/rece ssion (whatever you want to call it) is just a repeat of depressions past caused pretty much by the same phenomenon. "Financializati on" is just a new fancy word for it.
 
 
+5 # Feral Dogz 2012-07-20 09:14
Who among those commenting here is willing to give up their comfortable lifestyle and stop consuming the products of an economy based on fossil fuel consumption and the exploitation of labor? Who among us is willing to pay more, a lot more, for American labor to produce what we consume? Who even knows how to produce any of the basic necessities of life? Who can look in the mirror and say in all honesty, "I am not exploiting my fellow man every day."?

We have created and perpetuate an empire that demands tribute from the entire planet.

Changing this requires us to change ourselves in fundamental ways which we are not willing to accept. We prefer to argue from polar opposite positions on issues that are raised to distract us from the one salient fact that separates us from one another; human selfishness.

As I see it, conservatism, as the political right likes to mislabel itself, epitomizes the problem. Neo-liberalism has few apparent differences. Libertarianism (Ron Paul) is anarchy and chaos.

The Progressive political movement, which promotes a fair distribution of the planet's resources (socialism?) looks for solutions. Lets hope we have more progressives like Bernie Sanders, who considers himself a socialist, on the ballot in the future.
 
 
+6 # Feral Dogz 2012-07-20 09:15
The Earth belongs to every living thing upon it, and does not exist to serve the comfort and security of the privileged few and the fools who choose to serve them in exchange for a false sense of security and a remote chance to ascend to elite status.
 
 
0 # Livemike 2012-08-02 21:55
"The metastasizing finance sector eventually led us into the worst economic catastrophe since the Great Depression; that seems reason enough to question the model."

Then why don't you? Fiat currencies, fractional reserve banking, constantly increasing regulations and Keynsianism, that's the model. You have never questioned it and never will. That's because you don't want to admit that it's your policies that led to the disaster and will lead to the next one and the one after that.
 

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