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Cole writes: "Charging leakers with espionage is outrageous, but it is par for the course with the Obama administration."

Juan Cole; public intellectual, prominent blogger, essayist and professor of history. (photo: Informed Comment)
Juan Cole; public intellectual, prominent blogger, essayist and professor of history. (photo: Informed Comment)



So When Will Dick Cheney Be Charged With Espionage?

By Juan Cole, Informed Comment

23 June 13

 

he US government charged Edward Snowden with theft of government property and espionage on Friday.

Snowden hasn’t to our knowledge committed treason in any ordinary sense of the term. He hasn’t handed over government secrets to a foreign government.

His leaks are being considered a form of domestic spying. He is the 7th leaker to be so charged by the Obama administration. All previous presidents together only used the charge 3 times.

Charging leakers with espionage is outrageous, but it is par for the course with the Obama administration.

The same theory under which Edward Snowden is guilty of espionage could easily be applied to former vice president Dick Cheney.

Cheney led an effort in 2003 to discredit former acting ambassador in Iraq, Joseph Wilson IV, who had written an op ed for the New York Times detailing his own mission to discover if Iraq was getting uranium from Niger. (The answer? No.)

Cheney appears to have been very upset with Wilson, and tohave wished to punish him by having staffers contact journalists and inform them that Wilson’s wife, Valerie Plame, was secretly a CIA operative. While Cheney wasn’t the one whose phone call revealed this information, he set in train the events whereby it became well known. (Because Cheney’s staff had Plame’s information sitting around in plain sight, Armitage discovered it and then was responsible for the leak, but he only scooped Libby and Rove, who had been trying to get someone in the press to run with the Plame story.

What Cheney did in ordering his aides Scooter Libby and Karl Rove to release the information about Plame’s identity was no different from Snowden’s decision to contact the press.

And yet, Cheney mysteriously has not been charged with Espionage. Hmmm….

 

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+75 # Elin48 2013-06-23 07:20
Yes, that's what I want to know too. President Obama when first in office said we are moving forward not back, and that explains a lot right there.
 
 
+56 # tm7devils 2013-06-23 09:32
Maybe my mind has stopped working...but if a person commits a crime, by law, isn't having that person tried and convicted "moving forward"?
 
 
+9 # SeniorCitizen31 2013-06-23 13:56
Yes, that would be moving forward if you were just a simple soul like the 99 percent of us. But if you went to Harvard, graduated summa cum laude and edited the Harvard Law Review, then you would become way too sophisticated and certainly too brilliant to think such simplistic thoughts.

Especially, if you planned to become a president who would subvert the constitution at will; become prosecutor, judge, jury and executioner; war on the innocent while coddling the guilty; and generally act like a 15th century monarch.

In that case you wouldn't want to set a precedent for prosecuting the high and mighty.
 
 
+1 # fdawei 2013-06-23 22:36
Quoting SeniorCitizen31:
Yes, that would be moving forward if you were just a simple soul like the 99 percent of us. But if you went to Harvard, graduated summa cum laude and edited the Harvard Law Review, then you would become way too sophisticated and certainly too brilliant to think such simplistic thoughts.

Especially, if you planned to become a president who would subvert the constitution at will; become prosecutor, judge, jury and executioner; war on the innocent while coddling the guilty; and generally act like a 15th century monarch.

In that case you wouldn't want to set a precedent for prosecuting the high and mighty.


Obama's Constitutional Law professor, Laurence Tribe, must be wondering where it all went wrong.
 
 
+17 # tm7devils 2013-06-23 09:36
Maybe my mind has stopped functioning...b ut if a person commits a crime, by law, isn't having that person tried and convicted "moving forward"?
 
 
+31 # AMLLLLL 2013-06-23 11:03
Elin48, I thought it was a loop-hole when Obama said he "...would rather look forward.." The truth is, as a law professor he should know it's not rather; it's not his choice. Everyone must, especially public officials doing things in OUR name, be held accountable to the laws. I don't know why no one calls him on this.
 
 
0 # RLF 2013-06-24 02:49
You know your government is broken when it is they who decide when to prosecute someone who clearly broke the law. Why doesn't Obama just say it...He has no intention of prosecuting anyone with over 10 million in the bank...that is unless they are a "fucking retarded liberal".
 
 
-1 # edge 2013-06-24 04:25
Quoting Elin48:
President Obama when first in office said we are moving forward not back, and that explains a lot right there.


WHAT!

He has spent the last 5 years blaming Bush for everything!

Beyond that, Richard Armitage leaked Plame to Novak!

Time to grow up here!
 
 
+132 # NanFan 2013-06-23 07:28
Quote:
And yet, Cheney mysteriously has not been charged with Espionage. Hmmm....
THE single most egregious act by President Obama when he first took office was to choose NOT to investigate the Bush/Cheney administration. If he HAD done so, he would have surely revealed ALL of the things that the Bush/Cheney administation did, and which the Obama administration chose to continue to do. And we might never have had the need to whistleblow about these outrageous crimes against the World.

Yes, I said CRIMES -- by the US government AGAIN...or shall I say...STILL!

We, the people, are not the criminals when we reveal truths that are crimes in the government that represents us. WE, the people, ARE meant to BE the government in the face of the lack of transparency in our government about illegal, trumped up, dangerous activities. It is our DUTY to reveal criminal activity within our elected bodies, particularly through the press, which serves as a legitimate check-and-balan ce arm of the US governance.

For the US to charge Mr. Snowden with Espionage and call it "for the safety of the people" is "The Big Lie" that the Obama administration continues to spew on the heels of the most criminal administration in the history of our country: The Bush/Cheney Gang!

Have you no shame, Mr. Obama? Where is your spine????!!! Are your pockets full of cash more important than your integrity???

N.
 
 
+18 # robert61 2013-06-23 09:39
Wrote an article about it:

http://osintdaily.blogspot.com/2012/08/karl-rove-made-all-americans-fair-game.html
 
 
+38 # Erdajean 2013-06-23 10:10
Thank you, Nan. You've hit upon the meanest curse on modern America. It's not just the murderous Right but their team with their enablers -- supposedly on the Left -- the Pussy-Wussy strays to whom "Liberal" means
"See No Evil -- Take No Action." Think Nancy "Off The Table" Pelosi; Harry Tremble-Chin Reid; soaring over all, Obama -- whose angelic oration screens the monumental sell-out. Add a legion of apologists, who still believe the tale of 19 terrorists with box-cutters, and we've got tragedy.
These people DO get hopping mad -- but only at us who speak out, when we get the real picture. Yeah, be sweet, be still, and die like a wimp.
 
 
+22 # Arden 2013-06-23 11:18
"...who still believe the tale of 19 terrorists with box-cutters".

Does ANYONE still believe that? Really? I think mainly they don't know WHAT happened, but they know now that they have been lied to about it. They may not be speaking out about it, yet, but surely everyone knows now.
 
 
+1 # indian weaver 2013-06-24 04:18
No, very few know it turns out. Most folks avoid news these days and I don't blame them. It is ugly, depressing, frightening - especially any news about our government and Obama. He is going to give his "environmental" speech Tuesday. I'm already laughing in derision. He had his chance. Too late now since his credibility is non-existent from hi continuous lies and deceit.
 
 
+26 # motamanx 2013-06-23 11:22
Obama has been wrong to reach out his hand to Republicans for bi partisanship. The right wing in this misguided Congress, however, has sworn to never to accept his hand in friendship. Instead they swore his administration would be only one term. That is not governing, that is politics in the worst sense. If Obama had ordered that the treasonous acts of Cheney & Co be scrutinized by an independent commission, he may have garnered more respect. But no, he did not, and now the slights keep on coming.
 
 
+20 # MainStreetMentor 2013-06-23 11:30
Yes, NanFan! Nancy Pelosi, (Spkr of the Hse), refused (probably at the direction of Pres Obama) to allow ANY legislation to be "put on the table" during her tenure. Had that happened - we would NOT be in the present position we are in today. Likewise had President Gore actually taken office - our government would be in MUCH better shape today!
 
 
+17 # Agricanto 2013-06-23 12:22
Lets not forget that Joe Lieberman was Al's running mate, a choice designed to ..... Attract conservative voters, hawks, nationalists and the humungous Israel lobby.
 
 
0 # RLF 2013-06-24 02:53
Pelosi was one of the quickest to start screaming "off with his head" about Snowden. What a useless 'politician'.
 
 
0 # RLF 2013-06-24 02:50
What integrity? You understand he is from the Chicago sphere of politics!
 
 
+75 # fredboy 2013-06-23 07:36
Again, as a nation now celebrating evil we will not prosecute such cardinal evil. But if any truthtellers appear, they will be prosecuted.
 
 
+81 # jmac9 2013-06-23 07:41
America the great hypocrite

Indoctrinating citizens with claims of freedom, as America creates and supports dictatorships worldwide that crush human rights, supports the Apartheid tyranny of Israel, and now -
turns its sick hypocrisy upon its own citizens with the unPatriot Act, the NDAA accords, the police state fraud of the 'drug war', the new fraud to justify police state, the 'war on terror'.

Obama has continued every crime, every destruction of our constitution and bill of rights that Bush-Cheney gang started.

Opps, but the USA has been doing this criminality way before Bush-Cheney -
Eisenhower, Nixon, Johnson, Reagan, Clinton,Bush sr. - all of them bloodied the world for corporate profit and tyranny as they pulled your strings to die for them in the jungles of Vietnam, and the sand traps of Iraq, Afghanistan.

Dance your happy dance of ignorance this July 4 - or dance your happy dance of awakening and taking back our Constitution and Bill of Rights this July 4.
 
 
+8 # Arden 2013-06-23 11:29
"...dance your happy dance of awakening and taking back our Constitution and Bill of Rights this July 4."

YES, walking softly and carrying a big stick. That's no threat. It's the true American way.
 
 
-53 # bingers 2013-06-23 08:39
One exception, he did actually tell the Chinese government about our actions regarding their communications, and that IS treason.
 
 
+39 # reiverpacific 2013-06-23 09:51
Quoting bingers:
One exception, he did actually tell the Chinese government about our actions regarding their communications, and that IS treason.

So where's the backup for THAT declamation?
You can't get away with such statements on RSN without reference and credible reference at that -this ain't "Fix" news or the owner media, y'know!
 
 
+45 # NanFan 2013-06-23 10:08
Quoting bingers:
One exception, he did actually tell the Chinese government about our actions regarding their communications, and that IS treason.


Okay...how is THIS treason? Treason is defined by Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) as "...[a]...citiz en's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]."

There is no evidence that Mr. Snowden's intent was to overthrow the US by divulging the US's criminal activity to China or any other nation. He merely outed the US's ongoing corruption and spying practices, regardless of who they are spying on.

Dick Cheney and George W. Bush were the real traitors as they lied to us, got us into a fake war, killed millions, took US soldiers into the quagmire mercilessly, killed the US and World economy, killed the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights FAR beyond their predecessors, and on and on and on...AND...Mr. Obama has taken it to new heights by breaking ALL records and charging citizens for informing their own citizens of what's going on a whopping 7 times!

You figure it out, bingers.

N.
 
 
+67 # robert61 2013-06-23 09:34
As a member of the Association Of Former Intelligence Officers (AFIO), I wrote an article about the Plame leak and learned that people died when Dick Cheney, Scooter Libbey and Karl Rove sought revenge on Plame's husband (Wilson). Once she was outed as a CIA undercover NOC, her deep cover (BJ and Associates) was scrutinized by every unfriendly country she journeyed to. They poured through their visa and passport databases and found out when she arrived and where she stayed. They tracked down evert contact she met and either jailed or tortured them, along with their family members. Scooter Libbey was convicted for lying to the federal investigators about the role he, Cheney and Rove played in the leak and in covering it up. Instead of spending decades in prison, he would have "turned" and turned in Cheney and Rove. But he was pardoned by Pres. Bush and got the "get out of jail free" card. Now, little people like Snowden will pay the price for a much lesser infraction. I wrote an article about it and offer it free to all. It's named "Karl Rove Made All Americans Fair Game": http://osintdaily.blogspot.com/2012/08/karl-rove-made-all-americans-fair-game.html
 
 
+18 # tigerlille 2013-06-23 14:28
Fascinating and appalling. I always wondered what happened to her contacts, but it was not a topic mainstream media covered. Why don't you go to a website such as Move On and write a petition, explaining the deaths and hardships that ensued as a result of their crime, calling for them to be charged with espionage? At the very least it would expose the horrific nature of their crime. You appear to be very well qualified to undertake such a project. Thank you for posting.
 
 
+44 # reiverpacific 2013-06-23 09:40
Double standards have always been 'par for course' in the US (and the UK/Ireland also) -just ask Leonard Peltier or, if he was still alive, Troy Anthony Davis, or the many incarcerated with very little evidence or even wrongly executed, or hunger strikers like Bobby Sands and now a majority of the Guantanamo population who preferred death to their jailor's ideas of justice.
But the true criminals and terrorists are strutting about free and prospering.
It's getting more like Franco's Spain or Suharto's Indonesia all the time.
As for the Çheney-ghoul, my contempt-o-mete r is way past it's highest reading for Mr "Seven Deferments" as he had "other priorities".
"The evil that men lives on after them, the good often interred with their bones"! But in this case he is rotten to the marrow that I hope he is cremated so the earth is spared the pollution of his carcass.
I often wonder if Obama was taken aside before he took office and was told by the real rulers "Remember JFK, RFK, MLK? So this is how it really works bubbua-bo'--"!
 
 
+21 # Majikman 2013-06-23 10:08
Agree with your last sentence, reiverpacific, which is no way excuses him. There's the option of resigning from corrupt government, as many braver souls have done. He has chosen his path, and I have nothing but disgust and contempt for him and our corrupt "gummint".
 
 
+20 # RHytonen 2013-06-23 10:35
Quoting Majikman:
Agree with your last sentence, reiverpacific, which is no way excuses him. There's the option of resigning from corrupt government, as many braver souls have done. He has chosen his path, and I have nothing but disgust and contempt for him and our corrupt "gummint".


Or if he had a tenth of Snowden's integrity and patriotic bravery, he could have made that conversation and ALL its perps' names public, or even had THEM indicted, ending it forever.

Instead he chose to perpetrate it himself.
 
 
+10 # RHytonen 2013-06-23 10:52
Quoting Majikman:
Agree with your last sentence, reiverpacific, which is no way excuses him. There's the option of resigning from corrupt government, as many braver souls have done. He has chosen his path, and I have nothing but disgust and contempt for him and our corrupt "gummint".

(Don't you wonder if that's what Bilderberg really is?)
There's also Snowden's courageous and patriotic choice.
Candidate Obama could have gotten them indicted and punished for those historic crimes and saved the nation from its long time disgrace.
One has to wonder whether he hears from them now on every issue.

Hypothetically,
is our line of Presidential succession (and survival) nothing but a line of craven cowardly puppets and slavish, enthralled victims? When the TRULY brave whistleblower on the perps of that perennial threat finally emerges, nothing but vigilante justice -fighting guerilla tacticts with guerilla tactics- will be available to stop it forever.i hope we are ready.
 
 
+12 # reiverpacific 2013-06-23 13:33
Quoting Majikman:
Agree with your last sentence, reiverpacific, which is no way excuses him. There's the option of resigning from corrupt government, as many braver souls have done. He has chosen his path, and I have nothing but disgust and contempt for him and our corrupt "gummint".

Well, I personally never expected much different; I always saw him as a right-centrist who has now slid further right rather than stand and fight.
Be honest, NO true progressive is EVER going to be considered electable by those who run things here.
And there hasn't been a left in the US since the 30's.
I'm not shocked, just disappointed.
 
 
+2 # reiverpacific 2013-06-23 15:32
Quoting reiverpacific:
Double standards have always been 'par for course' in the US (and the UK/Ireland also) -just ask Leonard Peltier or, if he was still alive, Troy Anthony Davis, or the many incarcerated with very little evidence or even wrongly executed, or hunger strikers like Bobby Sands and now a majority of the Guantanamo population who preferred death to their jailor's ideas of justice.
But the true criminals and terrorists are strutting about free and prospering.
It's getting more like Franco's Spain or Suharto's Indonesia all the time.
As for the Çheney-ghoul, my contempt-o-meter is way past it's highest reading for Mr "Seven Deferments" as he had "other priorities".
"The evil that men lives on after them, the good often interred with their bones"! But in this case he is rotten to the marrow that I hope he is cremated so the earth is spared the pollution of his carcass.
I often wonder if Obama was taken aside before he took office and was told by the real rulers "Remember JFK, RFK, MLK? So this is how it really works bubbua-bo'--"!

Of course I meant "The evil thatr men DO---"! Damn my dippy digits again!
 
 
+28 # djnova50 2013-06-23 09:50
Based upon the definition of espionage, I don't believe Edward Snowden should be charged with the crime. I suppose Mr. Obama really believes what Richard Nixon has said about when the President does it, it's not illegal.
 
 
+19 # James Marcus 2013-06-23 10:34
Espionage? Tried... in a US 'Kangaroo Court'? Waste of time. 'Treason', before 'His' Congress? Unlikely!

How about 'High Crimes against Humanity', and 'Mass Murder', tried in The Hague.
There, a chance for Justice!
With Bush, and Obama, similarly charged!
 
 
+31 # walt 2013-06-23 10:49
Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz are guilty of far greater! The invasion of Iraq was based on deliberate lies and it has cost us over 4500 lives, more than 100,000 injuries, countless innocent civilians killed, and a deficit of nearly $3 trillion.

It seems that Obama (who promised us change we could believe in)cut a deal with these guys after winning the election. It appears that he prefers to enhance his military-muscle image going after the Mannings and Snowdens who had the courage to reveal serious wrongs and with targeted drone killings.

I fear that my support of Obama and the Democrats may have been misplaced.
 
 
+9 # Arden 2013-06-23 11:55
It's not too late for Obama to do the right thing, is it?

Maybe so, but if he were a woman, he could change his mind...

Come on, Barry, are you still in touch with your feminine side at all? Were you ever? I think you can still do the right thing.

Do we want "endless war" or do we want to "end war forever"?
 
 
+17 # margiafelipe 2013-06-23 11:05
I never thought that President Obama was born in Africa. Now I am beginning to believe that he has been bought by big business, big pharma and big media, Big Time...
 
 
+19 # motamanx 2013-06-23 11:12
Send this article to the White House. Obama is acting too much like his predecessors. I believe there is a disquieting, ongoing Cheney presence in the WH.
 
 
+17 # Ellioth 2013-06-23 11:42
Since when do we expect truth from senior political leaders? This goes to the core of the problem. We the people have a near complete loss of faith and respect for politicians. We KNOW most are lying dogs who answer solely to their paymasters, especially the oil companies. We know who writes the rules, we know who lied to get us into the Iraq war, and we know that Dick Cheney's Halliburton ripped us off of many billions of dollars, that Cheney outed Valerie Plame through his minions, Rove and Libby, and NONE of them were even charged with a parking ticket. And George W. Bush, lapped Cheney's filthy hands and, as President, we all know committed "high crimes and misdemeanors" so far beyond Bill Clinton even dreamed of with his transgressions, not only gets off scott free, but lives a life of luxury and freedom that most of the solider he sent to fight for his oil company buddies will never even dream of.
Truth, justice and the American way - what a crock of.... There is no justice for those who commit the real crimes of our era, no jail time for those committed to destroying or planet through climate change, no charges for the major players that brought down our economic system - they are the ones who still run free to cause more looting for their own selfish and greedy benefit. Justice? Are you kidding me?
 
 
+23 # tabonsell 2013-06-23 12:19
Sorry Juan, you're wrong.

What Cheney did was much worse than what Snowden did. We will get past Snowden without being damaged too much.

If you knew that the CIA gets much of its information by recruiting and relying on informants in hostile nations or organizations. Valerie Plame had build up a network of informants in the MIdeast by operating a pretend import business. She went to places such as Iran on the pretext of buying Persian rugs for her business, but she really went to get information on Iran's nuclear ambitions.

When Cheney outed Plame, he also outed her network, leaving us in he dark about the very programs many on he right want to go to war over.

He also gave the United States a black mark we don't need. After Cheney's betrayal we lessened the chance we can recruit more informants in the troubled parts of the world. It may have come down to the attack on the US post in Benghazi, which the right whines about constantly. The CIA had no informants in the attacking group, and that may be because of Cheney.

Level heads will come to realize that Snowden's betrayal was minor; Cheney's was monumental.
 
 
+13 # robert61 2013-06-23 13:52
The damage was overwhelming and put Americans in harm's way. Harry Mason, a retired CIA case officer who was awarded two CIA medals of honor and credit, said that the CIA's case officers still have much difficulty recruiting foreign assets to give us info about the spread of nuclear material. Why? They remember the Plame leak coming from the White House and the resultant hunting down by foreign intelligence services of all her contacts throughout the Middle East.
 
 
+10 # ligonlaw 2013-06-23 15:28
Dick Cheney will never stand before a judge, and justice will never to done in his case. What Cheney did was a disgrace and a crime against the United States. The right wing noise machine quickly told a big lie to the world that Ms. Plame was a low-level secretary. Those who saw "Mission Impossible" may remember the scene where Tom Cruise is suspended in the computer room of the CIA gathering information from the main computer. The valuable thing he stole was the "NOC" list, a list of agents who have no official cover - agents who are most exposed. Valerie Plame would have been on a real, not fictional, NOC list. She had no cover. Plame, unlike the Bush Administration, was in the field FINDING weapons of mass destruction. She found "assets" in the field who would provide the United States with valuable intelligence about who had WMD and where they could be found. She was doing heroic and dangerous work. It was a despicable, venal act to punish her husband, the former Ambassador, by ruining her cover. Wilson offended the Vice President when he told the truth about Cheney's lies about WMD in Iraq. There were none, but Cheney told the world that Iraq had nukes. It was a bold lie, a lie intended to scare Americans into war. It was a lie that no one outside the U.S. believed. Wilson uncovered the lie. Cheney's lies were exposed, and he retaliated by committing treason. No White House in history had ever released the name of a CIA operative to its enemies. Cheney did that.
 
 
+4 # da gaf 2013-06-23 17:30
these ugly government officials will pay to MOTHER KARMA--THEY WILL BE RE-INCARNATED AS UGLY COCK ROACHES..YOU CAN BET ON THAT AND DICK CHENEY WILL COME BACK AS THE DUMBEST -UGLIEST COCK ROACH OF ALL AND-SOON TO BE STEPPED ON..REVENGE IS WHAT MOTHER KARMA IS ALL ABOUT! HO HO HO!
 
 
0 # ganymede 2013-06-23 21:12
As bad and outrageous as the Snowden, Manning and Assuange stories are, the person that must be dealt with now is Dick Cheney. The heroic whistleblowers will have their day in court and world opinion plus the outrage of millions of Americans will make it impossible for there to be a serious conviction, not dissimilar to what happened to Ellsberg.
Now is the time, while Cheney is alive to build a movement to punish the most serious criminal who's ever held a high office. His corruption and crimes have to be dealt with if we ever stand a hope in hell of ever becoming a normal, respectable society.
 
 
0 # fdawei 2013-06-23 22:53
Obama knew full well if he prosecuted
Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld etc,then he himself would be liable for similar prosecution, since before he became president he knew he would continue to carry out their despicable and illegal policies.
He conned us...he is smarter than all of us.
His constitutional law professor, Laurence Tribe, must be wondering where it all went wrong.
 
 
0 # RMDC 2013-06-24 02:53
Cheney will never be charged with any crime. He could murder someone in plain sight and there would be no charges. It would be said that some crazy person jumped in front of his bullet. This did happen, of course.

All of this is about the privileges of a ruling elite. The banks too are part of this ruling elite. They have total impunity. Obama is the servant of the ruling elites. So was Bill Clinton. The Bush family is part of the ruling elites.

All of the US regime exists to protect the privileges of the global ruling elites.
 
 
0 # kalpal 2013-06-24 05:21
After both Nixon and Agnew were found to be felons, the GOP has determined they will never again allow one of their own who betrayed his oath of office to be charged in such a fashion and put out of office and possibly in prison, especially not a president or VP. Being a felon in no way implies that the GOP does not want you in its ranks.
 

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