Carmon writes: "That magic solution to Republicans' demographic problem that some conservatives are touting...is unlikely to pan out."
Carmon: 'George W. Bush and Karl Rove found a way to approach 40 percent of the Latino vote; Romney barely netted half that.' (photo: Fred Prouser/Reuters)
Why Karl Rove's Plan to Save the Republican Party Will Fail
25 November 12
rop the anti-immigrant rhetoric! Focus on the "family values" that Latinos supposedly share with the party! But that magic solution to Republicans’ demographic problem that some conservatives are touting - which conveniently allows the party to resist moderating on so-called social issues like gay marriage and abortion - is unlikely to pan out.
Two days after Latino voters broadly rejected the Republican Party, Charles Krauthammer saw reason for optimism. Latinos, he said, "should be a natural Republican constituency: striving immigrant community, religious, Catholic, family-oriented and socially conservative (on abortion, for example.)" George W. Bush and Karl Rove found a way to approach 40 percent of the Latino vote; Romney barely netted half that. So Republicans, facing a demographic time bomb as their base of white men ages, have comforted themselves by thinking all they really need to do is perform as well as Bush did among Latinos to get near the White House again.
Whether or not Republicans have any chance of capturing more than a tiny fraction of the Latino vote, Krauthammer (and the straw-grasping Republicans who echoed him) shouldn’t take Latinos’ conservatism, including their views on abortion, for granted.
First of all, being religious doesn’t mean you vote according to the dictates of your church, and Latino voters have consistently told pollsters that they don’t. Last December, a Latino Decisions poll found that 53 percent of Latinos said religion would have no impact at all on their vote. And only 14 percent agreed that "politics is more about moral issues such as abortion, family values, and same-sex marriage." In fact, exit polling from the election this month showed that Latinos were more likely than other voters to support same-sex marriage recognition.
Polling on abortion rights is notoriously hard to characterize and can fluctuate depending on how the question is asked - from framing it in terms of legality to asking about the fuzzy labels "pro-life" and "pro-choice." Some polls have shown less support for abortion rights from Latinos, especially foreign-born Latinos, than from the general population. In a Pew survey last year, 58 percent of immigrant Latinos said abortion should be mainly illegal, compared with 40 percent of second-generation Latinos. In another poll conducted by Univision around the same time, only 38 percent of Latinos said they believed abortion should be legal in most cases, compared with 49 percent of the general population.
But then came the actual election. Not only did Latinos broadly go for pro-choice candidates, according to ABC’s exit polling, but 66 percent of Latino voters across the country also said abortion should be legal. That’s higher than the general population, 59 percent of whom said abortion should be legal. There was no gender gap in the exit polling of Latinos on abortion, but Latinas were even more likely to support Obama than their male counterparts: 76 percent of Latina women voted for Obama; 65 percent of Latino men did. In other words, female support helped secure the overwhelming support of Latinos for the president.
Jessica González-Rojas, the executive director of the National Latina Institute for Reproductive Health, told Salon that when it comes to asking the Latino community questions about abortion and gay marriage, the framing makes a big difference. When her organization conducted its own polling, it didn’t ask about legality: It asked about "voters’ feelings related to judgment and support around abortion." In that poll, 74 percent of Latino registered voters agreed that "a woman has a right to make her own personal, private decisions about abortion without politicians interfering." And 68 percent agreed that "even though church leaders take a position against abortion, when it comes to the law, I believe it should remain legal."
González-Rojas also pointed out that Latinos overwhelmingly supported the Affordable Care Act, including its birth control coverage provisions. "Latina teens have the highest teen birth rate in the country, often because they don’t have access to contraception," she said. And Latinas, who are increasingly the heads of households, are concerned about maintaining the safety net for low-income people.
She also credited growing support for gay marriage among Latinos to advocacy and outreach that focused on support for families under the slogan "familia es familia" (family is family). It turns out "family values" doesn’t have to mean economically enforced patriarchy.
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2) TITANIC (GOP) has seen its LAST SUNRISE!
3) We the voters won't rest until the GOP takes its proper place in the political cemetery alongside the WHIGS & FEDERALISTS parties. You have GOT TO GO! Suppress the vote? WE'LL BE BACK!
They've become just as hateful and as dangerous to the Latino population. Rove can say any damn thing he wants, we all know there are dangerous, xenophobic elements in the Republican base that have been given a voice and legitimacy by people like Rove. Republican strategists only see this as a necessary evil.
"the Family Research Council" has NOTHING to do with family and everything to do with hate and persecuting people not like them.
It infuriates me when I see Reed on CNN or MSNBC, because it gives them legitimacy they sure do not merit.
Ralph Reed, the public face of FRC, was heavily involved with Abramhof and their cheating of the Indian tribes. The million dollar schemes sent Abramhof to prison. I can't understand how Reed got off Scott free.
I am glad to see that more and more people understand and feel, that we all deserve equal rights, no matter who we are.
When I came here 53 years ago psychologists said that men became gay when their mothers were strong domineering women???? Nobody understood that you are born gay or straight.
It was hard on many women.
kyzipster, we HAVE come a long way, but I sure understand that it is too slow for LGTB people. I wish you success, understanding and acceptance by our countrymen and women....and fast.
It the Republican party ceremoniously dumped Rove, it would attract a lot more voters.
Even GOP fiscal issues are vapid collection of talking points bereft of substantive evidence. Small gov't. ? Reagan grew the gov't. almost 300% while in office. No tax hikes? Reagan raised taxes 11 times while in office. Lower the tax rates and the 'job creators' will hire? Bush lowered taxes and although the wealth of the job creators grew immensely, jobs? not so much.
So, unless you are one of the 1% on the top, what have you done for me lately?
The death of conservatism would rescue the world.
He is a very good manipulator. But, there is no doubt that he is looking for new ideas to bamboozle Latinos the same way he has been old anglo men.
This is no time to relax. He certainly is not.
We can't relax, Jon. "Remember 2010" should be the motto for the 2014 midterm elections. You can be sure Rove has his sights set on the GOP taking control of the Senate and improving their majority numbers in the House. With Barack Obama's reelection, we definitely dodged the Romney/Ryan takeover of the domestic economy and the neo-conservativ e takeover of American foreign policy.
Now what we need is a 2014 Dem takeover of the House, which depends on a big turnout by all Dem constituencies to thwart the plans of the still-smarting Rove and his cronies.
This is not what the guy is doing or attempting to do.
Not just crow, Ineidhold, but lots and lots of CROW CRAP!!!
Trouble is, they will keep blocking any attempts at progressive legislation on their way down the self-greased tube, kickin' and screamin' all the way, led by slobber-chops Rover.
{Future Conversation, Father & Son visiting the Republican Party Display}...Hey Daddy, what was a Republican ??
Well Son....they used to be a political party that tried to trick the middle class into supporting policies that actually hurt themselves. Then one day the middle class woke up, and fought back and finally the Republicans ended up eating their own young, and just completely died off because they had no one left to blame for their failings. Enough about the Republicans Son, let's go over and look at the new Combustible Engine Display that died along with the greedy oilmen of the Republican Party.
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