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Reich writes: "Tea Partiers may be more amenable to an agreement now that the electorate has signaled it doesn't especially like what the Tea Party has been up to."

Portrait, Robert Reich, 08/16/09. (photo: Perian Flaherty)
Portrait, Robert Reich, 08/16/09. (photo: Perian Flaherty)


Boehner's Leverage Over Tea Partiers in Congress

By Robert Reich, Robert Reich's Blog

08 November 12

 

f there's a mandate in yesterday's results," said House Speaker John Boehner on Wednesday, "it's a mandate to find a way for us to work together." Republicans, he said, were willing to accept "new revenue under the right conditions," to get a bipartisan agreement over the budget.

We've heard this before. The Speaker came close to agreeing to an increase in tax revenues in his talks with the President in the summer of 2011, but relented when Tea Partiers in the House made a ruckus.

But Tea Partiers may be more amenable to an agreement now that the electorate has signaled it doesn't especially like what the Tea Party has been up to.

Consider Indiana, where the Tea Party had pushed out veteran GOP Senator Richard Lugar in favor of Richard (rape is "something God intended") Mourdock. Mourdouk was soundly defeated Tuesday by Rep. Joe Donnelly.

In Missouri, the Tea Party was responsible for Todd (some rapes are "legitimate") Akin winning the Republican Senate nomination – which gave Sen. Claire McCaskill a landslide victory.

And in Montana, Tea Party nominee Denny Rehberg was no match for Senator Jon Tester.

Of the sixty incumbent members of the House's Tea Party Caucus, 47 were reelected, while 6 lost big, two ended up in races far too close for comfort, and one is still hanging by a thread (the rest either retired or sought higher office). Overall, those are bad odds for House incumbents.

As of Thursday morning, Tea Party icon Florida's Rep. Allen West - who made a name for himself calling several of his Democratic colleagues communists - was still trailing his Democratic opponent Patrick Murphy by more than the 0.5 percent margin that would trigger an automatic recount. Nonetheless, West is charging "disturbing irregularities" in the balloting process, and his lawyers have asked that ballots and voting equipment be impounded in St. Lucie and Palm Beach counties in expectation of a recount.

Another Tea Party icon, Minnesota's Rep. Michele Bachmann, beat challenger Jim Graves by just over 3,000 votes out of nearly 350,000 votes cast - even though she outspent Graves by more than 12-to-one. Not a good omen for Bachmann in 2014.

Tuesday wasn't exactly a repudiation of the Tea Party, and the public's rejection of Tea Party extremism on social issues doesn't automatically translate into rejection of its doctrinaire economics. But the election may have been enough of a slap in the face to cause Tea Partiers to rethink their overall strategy of intransigence. And to give Boehner and whatever moderate voices are left in the GOP some leverage over the crazies in their midst.



Robert B. Reich, Chancellor's Professor of Public Policy at the University of California at Berkeley, was Secretary of Labor in the Clinton administration. Time Magazine named him one of the ten most effective cabinet secretaries of the last century. He has written thirteen books, including the best sellers "Aftershock" and "The Work of Nations." His latest is an e-book, "Beyond Outrage." He is also a founding editor of the American Prospect magazine and chairman of Common Cause.

 

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+114 # BradFromSalem 2012-11-09 12:21
Unfortunately, the Tea Bags are already doubling down on their philosophy, if they actually have one. They are blaming their losses and Romney in particular on the Republican establishment. In other words, John Boehner! So his call for revenue, tame and unproductive as it was, will be dismissed by the Tea Bags.

This is all on Obama to stand for what he was asked by the American public to do. Increase taxes on the wealthy and no, excuse me, NO changes to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

Boehner is right when he said that the election was the American public looking both parties to work together. But they also clearly by not voting out a single sitting Democrat showed which side gets to call the shots.

Speaker Boehner needs to stop dictating to the President and engage Obama in improving whatever the President proposes, not the other way around.

Follow this link for the best solution out there:
http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/

The bill is already written, just pass it tomorrow.
 
 
+48 # popeye47 2012-11-09 17:25
Brad, I agree that the tea party folks won't change.
They will blame everyone else, for their own radical ideas that midstream Americans don't want.
They were a novelty for a short period. But their 30 minutes of fame is gone.
 
 
+22 # BradFromSalem 2012-11-09 20:26
popeye,

You are right. But the fact is they are ghosts; people that have died but don't know it yet.
 
 
+13 # jcdav 2012-11-10 06:46
Yeah, I guess we are all to dense to see the divine truth when it is so thoughtfully represented. The TB folk are so blinded by their self righteous BS that they will not compromise...th ey need to be voted out.
 
 
+3 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2012-11-11 20:51
A recent international science contest found that American students ranked 17 in the world. Until we get our math and science scores significantly increased, (evidence of wisdom)the Americans will be at the mercy of the people like Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, Bill O'reilly. Our under development in the basic sciences is an open and inviting door to these plundering Plutocrats. It is really sad when almost 50 % of American voters vote for Romney while members of his party propagate lies such as "the American health insurance system is the best in the world" and the U.N, ranks our system as number 37. Lots of Americans have a long way to go before they can factually recognize the difference between horse pucky and egyptian cotton.
 
 
+40 # dbriz 2012-11-09 12:28
Pretty good summation by Reich.

The grand bargain will have to raise revenue in some way and the most harmless way may be to increase taxes on the "rich" and close a few loopholes on corporations.

The tea sippers will in return get some budget reductions in the rate of increases and everyone can claim a win.

None of this is will deter the certain mathematical dilemma's ahead, but at least we can get a short term high from the aura of "bipartisanship " on the banks of the Potomoc.
 
 
+123 # LeeBlack 2012-11-09 13:54
How these people can say that giving wealthy people more money would create jobs floors me. They've been sitting on their money for 8 years - how is having more money going to encourage them to change their ways and hire more people or invest in business?
 
 
+62 # jon 2012-11-09 14:39
"how is having more money going to encourage them to change their ways and hire more people or invest in business"

Clearly it will not.
 
 
+2 # bmiluski 2012-11-12 14:31
Clearly it HAS NOT. Reagen tried "trickle down economy" and we got a recession. Bush tried it and we got a mego recession. Now they tried to fool the public into going for it again.
 
 
+44 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-09 16:04
We have an alternative that would not hurt American home based small business. Start a tariff on all American Companies that are overseas/Border s. Also make them abide by our EPA, Food Standards or do not import.
I think we have an open mind but we also have an upper hand....boycott the sobs or tariff them. No freebies if they decide to come home, they were traitors and traitors do not get bonuses
 
 
+37 # jpena16 2012-11-09 17:53
The rich do not use their surplus money towards the altruistic aim of creating more jobs for the rest of us. They are mired in the corporate world where the modus operandi is primarily to cut labor costs, since labor is the most expensive side of doing business. It would be counter-intuiti ve to hire people unless there was a demand for goods that only more labor could produce. What the rich does with extra cash is gamble. It'ss what they call investing. Now a days it's about squeezing as much profit as possible almost always from financial transactions that don't produce anything like derivatives.
 
 
+66 # roger paul 2012-11-09 14:16
Good luck getting Tea Party Republicans to change their mind on anything that the President may purpose. My money (cynical I may be)is on their continued obstructionism.
 
 
+69 # Barbara K 2012-11-09 14:41
Boehner's got his hands full with trying to babysit these Tbaggers. They hate government, so why in the world would their idiotic voters send them to the government? They shouldn't have run for government in the first place, they don't belong in our government, they don't know how it works and are disagreeable to everything. Saying NO to everything is no way to run the government.
 
 
+47 # CAMUS1111 2012-11-09 14:46
They possess no functioning "minds" to change. One might as well try to negotiate or attempt to reason with a house plant.
 
 
+18 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-09 16:06
In fact I can train a house plant or pet to behave. To follow the flow, each gets their rewards.
 
 
+18 # WestWinds 2012-11-09 17:18
The house plant wins.
 
 
+1 # bmiluski 2012-11-12 14:33
The tea-baggers hate government but don't have a problem collecting their 100K per year for doing nothing....farm susidies.
 
 
+16 # Merschrod 2012-11-09 15:29
I was going to say "lots of luck on that happening, but you beat me to it Roger
 
 
+45 # fredboy 2012-11-09 14:53
The Tea Party will henceforth be viewed as an old, white, hyper-reactiona ry mindset, clutching racism, selfishness, and feigned yet insecure faux superiority in their trembling fists. Their glassy eyes fogged over as the election unfolded and they realized the technology and youthful positivity of a new century had destroyed and discredited much of the fear and hatred that fueled their bitter cause.
 
 
+38 # guyachs 2012-11-09 15:08
There's a reason they are referred to as the 'crazies'. They are crazy. They won't change at all. Reality means nothing to them.
 
 
+21 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-09 16:08
They are an insult to Tea Party .... I rarely use the phrase as they have nothing to do with Freedom, they are traitorous would sell their own out. TP is close enough
 
 
+9 # dovelane1 2012-11-10 11:18
TP - as in "toilet paper?" Though I certainhly could, I won't go any further with that analogy.

I'm sure all the Teapee'ers believe they have the courage of their convictions. McConnell too. None of them understanding that it takes more courage to examine one's convictions, and allow others to examine them as well.

When people like this find others examining their positions, the tendency is to take the act of being examined personally. When they become defensive, it then becomes even harder for them to look at new or different information.

Examining their behavior and what they vote for is our right, and it needs to continue happening.
 
 
+45 # AMLLLLL 2012-11-09 15:10
The Prez has to take it to the American people; loudly and clearly the mandate was from US. Skip the Congress, since they don't represent our interests anyway. Let the bloody Bush Tax cuts expire. Don't change Social Security (except to raise the income cap) or Medicare, neither of which are part of the budget.

This 'Lucy and the Football' game is nauseating. ~No more Mr. Nice Guy~ should be the theme now.

It's not a 'fiscal cliff' it's a fiscal SLOPE, which can be dealt with next year.
 
 
-26 # Merschrod 2012-11-09 15:30
I agree - take it to the people, but Obama has not show that he is a communtion activist.
 
 
+8 # patw 2012-11-10 05:43
"The Prez has to take it to the American people"

If we wait for that, we may wait in vain and we abdicate our responsibilitie s and potential power as citizens. I think WE must take our values and the directions we want our government to take - to the President.

I am amazed at many critiques of this election, where the reasons for wins and losses are attributed to how well the campaigns were run and not to the substance of the candidates' positions. We cannot assume that President Obama will figure out those issues that "we, the people" care most about and lead us that way.

Anyone who wants Obama to stop killing Pakistanis from drones; drop his reported insistence of administrative detention being included in the NDAA; stop supporting new nuclear power plants and fracking; tie our aid to Israel to their treating Jews, Muslims, and Christians with equal rights; or whatever is important to you, needs to team up with groups who working on those issues you care most about, and let Obama know.

As we have witnessed - corporate $ doesn't always win. Let this second win for Obama be the beginning of our renewed participation in and communication with "our" government. We must take our priorities to the President. And to "our" members of Congress.
 
 
+9 # jcdav 2012-11-10 06:54
BO hopefully has learned some Leadership..now is the time to kick ass and take names..this BS is the cause of our continued problems...the Ike days were full of growth and a 90% top tax rate...Yup, take it to the public...give US the info & the ways to contact the congress people en mass. Thanks for your service, vets.
 
 
+27 # in deo veritas 2012-11-09 15:28
How long will it take for whatever real Republicans who have not lost their minds to pressure the teabaggers still in office and DEMAND that they work for recovery or face recall or other means of removing them from office? Leaving them around until 2014 will only prolong what this country is going through Anyone who did not vot on Tuesday or was stupid enough to vote third party can consider themselves a party to this situation since some races were very very close.
 
 
+14 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-09 16:09
It is not just the TP who are engaged in this, gobs are just as bad protecting their ass ets.
 
 
+4 # WestWinds 2012-11-09 17:28
I don't agree. If you are going to call America a "democracy" then there is a place for Third Parties. The Democratic Party is a corporatist party; no different from the Republicans. Both take corporate donations and sell out their constituency. If nothing else, the amassing of Third Party votes puts the Democrats on notice that they need to get off the corporate dole. Rahm Emanuel smugly said, "I'm not worried about the Progressives; they have nowhere to go." Well, Rahmy... think again. Go Green!
 
 
+45 # walt 2012-11-09 15:42
Boehner needs to take charge of these idiots or face the party's demise. The American people are tired of the Tea Party antics and want to see change.

No more of their tactics to hold us all hostage to their own arrogance and stupidity and that of their boy Grover Norquist.

Wake up, GOP, if there are any sane members left!
 
 
+10 # panhead49 2012-11-09 15:44
AMLLLLL - looks good on paper however the tax rates expiration hits all income levels, not just the very well heeled. Those making over a quarter mil will not be affected much, but those making far less will feel the pain. Gas is still $4 a gallon here. Was higher so food prices also rose. Gas is going down - food is not. It is a cliff for the not so well off - it is but a mere slope for those that make more. The 'cliff dwellers' I know can't hold on another year.

Do love your Lucy and the Football reference - quite timely.
 
 
+17 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-09 16:16
I say let them jump...they are on a ledge/cliff and we are not going to lower the ropes. Jump, perhaps it is time we dethrone Congress, to cut budgets.
Military spending I do not care a fig is some brass wants a raise...raises should go to the troops and families..time to retire the Brass

We can muster on education for a while, new job growth will help us with that. No scholarships to rich, only those in lower income brackets. Rich have money, can write off...

We can do a budget...one is no more salary for Public Office, no more benefits. Want to cut seniors and disabled we will help you buy cutting it off at your heads!

American people are already organizing on Issues about environment, SS, Monsanto, Fracking, Oil so I believe we have enough to go around to organize against Congress. Shut them down. Give them pink slips and let go talk to the Senate. Remember the Pink Slips are not going to be good for extended benefits you slugs
 
 
+50 # Buddha 2012-11-09 15:55
Look, this is simple: If they don't agree to a good deal, then let the tax cuts expire. Then resubmit and pass in the Senate the same 98% tax cut, and force them to vote it down in the House. All the political power is in the hands of the Dems now, use it, and show spine. And make sure that any deal includes an automatic 4 year extension of the debt ceiling, or sure as Boehner is orange, they will hostage take on that one too.
 
 
+16 # djgreeneyes 2012-11-09 16:25
Oh - love that! "As sure as Boehner is orange!"
 
 
+8 # BradFromSalem 2012-11-09 20:28
I believe that tax legislation must originate in the House.
 
 
+12 # Majikman 2012-11-09 21:07
Not a bad scenario, Buddha. Boehner gets to save face, keep his speaker position and if the crazies refuse the 98% taxcut, do i hear "recall"?
 
 
+12 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-09 16:21
We had couple lawyers out there...can we close down Congress on a clause of Discrimination. Acting towards their own and dismantling lives of Disabled, Unemployed, and Seniors .... I believe that reeks of discrimination. I do not believe an Elected Official is to be prejudiced. So I believe it is time we actually Used the Contents of the Constitution and Bill of Rights against those who refuse to acknowledge it.

Also Corporations are People...there fore we must enact a Tax for those in Corporations ....not small business. Tax cannot be used to drive up prices but be taken at its face value and out of the Profit Margin. I hope OWS and other Young Voters are going to become Good, 'honest' Lawyers I would say we are LONG Overdue!
 
 
+3 # WestWinds 2012-11-09 17:34
Good lawyers out of crooked law schools?
I don't think so...
 
 
+13 # BeaDeeBunker 2012-11-09 16:22
"But Tea Partiers may be more amenable to an agreement now that the electorate has signaled it doesn't especially like what the Tea Party has been up to."

YA THINK?!
 
 
+5 # BobboMax 2012-11-09 16:26
Why would the Republicans and the Tea Party change course? These are people of principle- they've told us so- and people of principle do not bow to every passing electoral wind. They stand firm on their principles, regardless of how many elections they lose. The failure of the electorate to follow the Tea Party lead says more about the blindness of the people than about the wisdom of the Tea Party.
 
 
+29 # m... 2012-11-09 16:49
''...even though she outspent Graves by more than 12-to-one. Not a good omen for Bachmann in 2014.''

I see little written throughout our National Post Election Punditry of the Big OBVIOUS Rainbow which has appeared over the Election Outcome.

This was the first election held under the dark and dirty shroud of the Citizens United Decision.
And Yet.
Even with all that '$$Corpo-Cash$$ ' pouring into and washing around and infecting and manipulating OUR Election process.., and even with a major cable 'News' Network operating as a 24/7 Republican Campaign Donation full of bull, delusional manipulations and falsehoods-- Even with all that B$.., Americans still Won..!

Imagine the outcome if Citizens United did not exist and Media Enterprises had to operate under a strong Fairness Doctrine in Media like America had before Reagan came along-- It would have been a true landslide.., an actual Mandate.

In that REALITY a door has opened to the biggest opportunity Democrats and the American People have had in decades to try and remove so much of the vitriolic nonsense and deliberately foisted, undermining divisiveness from the system.
--Allow only Public Funding in Our Election Process.. or at most, limit campaign donation from all persons, real and 'corpo' alike to $2000.
--Break up the extremely narrow grip just a few Global Corporations have on almost all Media Enterprises and force them to operate under a true Fairness Doctrine.
 
 
+3 # WestWinds 2012-11-09 17:13
Anyone who thinks that the Extreme Right is going to do anything other than what it has been doing (lying, cheating, stealing and obstructionism, ) is kidding themselves. Those guys are only a one trick pony and have more ego than common sense. This is what you get when you don't truly educate people with critical thinking; this is what you get when you only teach skills (reading, writing, math). They can't think their way out of a paper bag and will hide their ignorance behind their false bravado every time. But Obama already knows this and once again we heard it in his acceptance speech that he will be doing the Right's bidding...sicke ning! Go Green Party!
 
 
+22 # reiverpacific 2012-11-09 17:16
Only in America would Blechmann, West, Ryan(d) and even Twit (and many, many others too numerous to list) be taken seriously as candidates, not to mention the likes of Dimwits Bush who has already continued his unenviable record of fucking-up everything he touched before doing it to the country and globally: he should never have been let off even the right-wing short leash.
You really must dig a bit deeper.
The Rethugs are getting shallower, more desperate and muddier in their swamp; The Tea-Buggers drove then to a new low (Remember "Keep the government's hands off my Medicare"). Gawd knows what kind of Neanderthal object or Orc-mutation they'll come up with in '16.
The Dem's might be a bit milquetoast but at least they tend to have a certain intelligence quota cut-off.
So Boehner (and presumably "Bitch" McConnel, Kentucky's king of obfuscation) have finally woken up from their bout of post-election somnambulism!
 
 
+5 # BeaDeeBunker 2012-11-09 19:48
reiverpacific (Brian),
My compliments to you! Anyone who uses the word 'precis' is top shelf in my book.
Your background, and sentiments align with mine, except for the fact that I can vote, being that I am a first generation American.
Let me know when your WEB site is up and running.

I grok you.
 
 
+1 # reiverpacific 2012-11-10 09:50
Quoting BeaDeeBunker:
reiverpacific (Brian),
My compliments to you! Anyone who uses the word 'precis' is top shelf in my book.
Your background, and sentiments align with mine, except for the fact that I can vote, being that I am a first generation American.
Let me know when your WEB site is up and running.

I grok you.

"Grok"? That's a new one on me. Any relation to "Orc" of Mordor or Isengard? or Pythonesque, or the Goon Show, or Peter Cook/Dud Moore?
My web site is taking a long time as it's multi-aspect format (I've had an "Interesting" life on many fronts around the globe to put it mildly), even with the assistance of my incredibly patient wife who is an excellent graphic Designer.
Not sure how to do this as our nom-de-plumes are supposed to assure a certain degree of anonymity.
I guess I'm pretty easy to track down (busted?).
O' well thanks anyhoo.
 
 
+2 # dovelane1 2012-11-10 11:29
Reiver - "Grok" as in Robert Heinlein's book "Stranger In A Strange Land." I think it means something close to "to understand or empathize with." Or "I get you."
 
 
+2 # reiverpacific 2012-11-10 11:58
Quoting dovelane1:
Reiver - "Grok" as in Robert Heinlein's book "Stranger In A Strange Land." I think it means something close to "to understand or empathize with." Or "I get you."

Arr' thanks; must ha' forgotten or missed that one as I'm an ol' Heinlein fan. I'll look in my library and see if I still have that one.
Ya larn somthethin' every day, what?
 
 
+2 # BeaDeeBunker 2012-11-10 14:25
Brian,
I'm honored that you went to the trouble of asking about 'grok.' And, thank you to 'dovelane1'(Gar y) who was correct in pointing out the source.
'Grok' is a good example of what a precis does in providing a concise description of a rather complex concept. It basically means and refers to a very deep, visceral understanding of a person or idea that goes to the core of ones being. It sometimes happens as a 'eureka' moment, like when a light bulb suddenly goes on in ones head. Sometimes it happens after a long, slow process, in little steps.
In the 1960's 'grok' was a higher, more powerful 'I dig it!'

As to how I knew of your WEB site...that is simple. One day, out of my general curiosity, I clicked on the icon in the upper left hand corner of a posted comment. Sometimes it's a custom icon like yours, and sometimes it's the default lower case white 'r' in a field of a red circle.
Click on it and much is revealed about the profile of the commentator. It is also a repository of your latest comments.
 
 
+1 # reiverpacific 2012-11-11 10:30
Quoting BeaDeeBunker:
Brian,
I'm honored that you went to the trouble of asking about 'grok.' And, thank you to 'dovelane1'(Gary) who was correct in pointing out the source.
'Grok' is a good example of what a precis does in providing a concise description of a rather complex concept. It basically means and refers to a very deep, visceral understanding of a person or idea that goes to the core of ones being. It sometimes happens as a 'eureka' moment, like when a light bulb suddenly goes on in ones head. Sometimes it happens after a long, slow process, in little steps.
In the 1960's 'grok' was a higher, more powerful 'I dig it!'

As to how I knew of your WEB site...that is simple. One day, out of my general curiosity, I clicked on the icon in the upper left hand corner of a posted comment. Sometimes it's a custom icon like yours, and sometimes it's the default lower case white 'r' in a field of a red circle.
Click on it and much is revealed about the profile of the commentator. It is also a repository of your latest comments.

Oh well; The Icon is from a ceramic piece I made "Self-Portrait with Pasha", my eldest and favorite of five wonderful cats we are owned by; I'm blurring the line between ceramics, painting and even architecture.
Better not get too involved in personal stuff as this is a public forum. Thanks for your curiosity and comments.
I'd better get to work on that website.
 
 
+14 # jpena16 2012-11-09 17:34
What I find ironic about this budget hanging over a cliff scenario is that December 21,2012 happens to be a Friday and the last day of this years Congress. After which Congress goes home for the Christmas Holidays and doesn't return till January 1, 2013.December 21,2012 also happens to be the last day of the Mayan Calender. If they don't come to an agreement we all fall over a cliff financially. My question is , will the republicans insist on dumping the whole country over a cliff.
 
 
+9 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-09 19:58
I cannot answer what Rethugs will do I got thumbs down because they can jump off the cliff.
I believe the President has an executive
privilege that would help the people. Might be a first time, but then everything that made a difference is.

UI have been around to know that the Ivy will always with others give those scholarships to rich to get family money, always have....washing hands.

But I believe we may just have some good potential in the Youth, OWS even if they have to start at Community College.

Right now the Rethugs are on the phones, working a percent that their buds will live with, but they will play their hand out. I believe the President can make them stay until an agreement is reached, hope he does.

I am on SSI, SS I am not going to lose sleep over these cretins. I do believe we can Change things, we already have.
Have a great weekend, enjoy weather, animals, friends and family
 
 
+5 # Shipton 2012-11-09 21:54
So here's a thought, in two years we have an election, most popular votes win. The subject of said election, "Should the US Constitution remain in effect or should we revert back to the Articles of Confederation. That seems to be what the Baggers want and they seem to forget how well that worked. I'm sure they would crap bricks if, after the US Government was dissolved and all the states became little independent countries, the Cubans decided they wanted Florida and sent their Military across the Gulf or if Mexico decided they wanted their land back.

Remember, there would be no standing army or navy to beat back the attacks, so, first the states would have to decide to raise an army, then decide how to fund it, then decide who would be put in charge of it.

It would be interesting to say the least.
 
 
0 # Texas Aggie 2012-11-11 18:09
"But the election may have been enough of a slap in the face to cause Tea Partiers to rethink their overall strategy of intransigence. "

It didn't work last time that they had major defeats. All it did was make them dig in their heels and believe that the problem was that they weren't conservative enough. Why would you expect anything different this time? Cognitive dissonance is alive and well and living in Tea Partydom. The only time they ever changed their minds while in office was when the fat cats who had bought their services decided that they were too much of a danger to the world and told them to shut up and be quiet.
 
 
+1 # JJS 2012-11-13 03:55
Quoting BradFromSalem:
.... Increase taxes on the wealthy and no, excuse me, NO changes to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid...

But we can do both!

Raise the cap on wages subject to SS tax that is now around $106K. It could be a lower percentage than the tax collected up to the current cap but have no upper limit at all. The tax could exempt employers for the addition amount, so the "job creators" are happy. Gov't can still draw from the SS pot to pay for general funds and not have to pay back all the SS IOU's that are coming due.

I agree, what we shouldn't do is raise the age of eligibility for SS benefits or reduce payments or anything of the sort that would place the burden of this deficit/cebt issue brought about by Bushes war and the Republican economic/tax policies.
 
 
+1 # Bruce Gruber 2012-11-14 17:23
More importantly, SS & Med employer contributions should be reqd on ALL employees, not exempting part-time workers who can least afford to owe doubled contribution from their minimal incomes. All income should be affected, not just wages, and it should cap at (if at all) at $1,000,000. Capital gains and interest income should not be excluded.

And I cannot fathom why a Federal tax of some nominal amount like fifty cents on each stock transaction should not be enacted ... after all we pay 45 cents to send communication by mail, why not half a buck to use the public's ether to gamble on investments.
 
 
0 # JJS 2012-11-15 16:14
I think there are many such scenerios as you suggest, Bruce Gruber, that would cost pennies for individuals but reap millions for the many.
 

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