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Myers writes: "When Mitt Romney returns from his overseas summer vacation next week, speculation about his running mate is bound to reach a fevered pitch, one thing is clear: thanks to Sarah Palin, Romney won't choose a woman."

Sarah Palin, pictured during a book signing in Virginia, is weathering... (photo: Richards/Getty)
Sarah Palin, pictured during a book signing in Virginia, is weathering... (photo: Richards/Getty)



The Palin Hangover

By Dee Dee Myers, Vanity Fair

28 July 12

 

hen Mitt Romney returns from his overseas summer vacation next week, speculation about his running mate is bound to reach a fevered pitch—and stay there until he makes an announcement. As the putative short list ebbs and flows, adding and then deleting names in flurries of anticipation, one thing is clear: thanks to Sarah Palin, Romney won’t choose a woman.

It’s been nearly four years since Palin was plucked from obscurity, with six years as a small-town mayor and two as governor of a remote and sparsely populated state as her only credentials for national office. Since then, virtually everything we’ve learned about the process that produced her—and we’ve learned a lot—has confirmed our worst suspicions: Palin was a political Hail Mary, a long bomb in the closing minutes of a game that John McCain and Co. were certain to lose. They didn’t care if she had the policy or political or emotional capacity to serve as vice president, let alone president. They were willing to drive the country off a cliff, if that’s what it took to win.

In those same four years, Palin’s performance has done nothing to reassure us that it would have been anything short of a disaster if she and McCain had managed to win. During the campaign, she often dazzled crowds on the campaign trail. But her legendary gaffes and often tentative demeanor in less scripted moments betrayed a weak grasp of issues, from U.S-Russia relations, to the economy, to basic American history.

Despite its turmoil, the campaign still created a huge opportunity for Palin to later leverage her sudden fame and undeniable charisma into a meaningful political career. She didn’t take it. Instead, she quit her job as governor, refused to buckle down and educate herself about important issues, and decided she’d rather be a gadfly than a productive part of an important national conversation.

And so it is that for a national candidate to choose a relatively unknown woman from a small state as his running mate is impossible.

Oh, sure, the names of potential female candidates have been bandied about. It’s 2012; the G.O.P. simply has to at least pretend to consider a couple of female running mates for the party’s über-white-guy nominee. And there are several who would be interesting, credible, and potentially exciting. But with the exception of former Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice—who has absolutely no interest in running for elective office—they are all first-termers from small states and thus appear dangerously Palin-like. As they might say in Wasilla, ix-nay on the replay.

Last week, as Romney’s role at Bain Capital dominated the political conversation, his campaign tried to change the subject by floating New Hampshire senator Kelly Ayotte as a possible running mate. A cool-headed conservative, former prosecutor, and sitting member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Ayotte, 44, is a rising star in the G.O.P. firmament. But she represents a small (albeit swing) state and is only two years into her first term. But for Sarah Palin, the Romney camp might have argued that Ayotte has as much experience in the Senate as Barack Obama did when he announced that he was running for president in 2007. But Palin herself made a similar argument in 2008—and it proved specious.

Similarly, Susana Martinez of New Mexico, the nation’s first female Hispanic governor, would be an interesting candidate. A no-nonsense Republican, Martinez, 53, switched parties in the mid-1980s and spent most of her career as a prosecutor, including 14 years as a district attorney. She’s well respected in New Mexico, a state that remains a jump ball. Yet despite the fact that she could narrow Romney’s gap among women and Hispanics—and help him win a swing state—the Palin hangover ensures she won’t even be considered.

South Carolina governor Nikki Haley might also have been on the list. A successful business owner before she ran for the state legislature, Haley is the American-born daughter of Indian immigrants who embodies the American Dream. While pigs would fly before President Obama could win South Carolina in a general election, Haley would have helped paint a picture of a more modern Republican party: younger, more diverse, more open. But because of the Palin debacle, she’s nowhere in the conversation.

Palin’s politics aren’t the problem. Nor is it the fact that she and McCain lost in 2008. Palin actually showed admirable resilience during the campaign, as she was thrust onto the national stage by a campaign that failed epically to prepare or protect her. There’s no doubt that she is gifted in the art of politics, and I do mean that as a compliment. What she has can’t be taught.

The McCain campaign bears more than a little of the blame for the Palin predicament. They set her up to fail for shortsighted and cynical reasons. But the fact remains that she was spectacularly unprepared to serve as vice president, let alone president—and she didn’t do much then, and hasn’t done much since, to fill the gaps in her knowledge or experience. Had she, she could have emerged an important player on the national political stage, rather than merely a controversial and divisive one. Had she, she could have shown the world that even though her candidacy may have been born in desperation, she was up to the task. Instead, she’s become a cautionary tale—and an obstacle to other women who might have successfully followed in her footsteps.

So it isn’t fate but fecklessness that has shoved Sarah Palin to the sidelines of national politics. The real tragedy is that she’s taken a lot of other serious Republican women with her.

 

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+185 # Barbara K 2012-07-28 07:13
Please get this woman out of our faces. I wish I never had to see her face or hear her voice. She is such a brainless twit that I don't know how she ends up in the news anyway. Give us some intelligent people to listen to, please.
 
 
+106 # ericsongs 2012-07-28 08:04
There are no contradictions. Palin assured the loss that the repubs wanted at the time (after trashing the economy) and Wrongway Romney will assure GOP loss once again in 2012.
All of their eggs are being carefully placed in the Jeb Bush 2016 basket for a horrendous future under a final Bush Regime. The New Dark Ages cometh and we are Beyond The Pale.

Beyond Here Be Dragons
 
 
+61 # lexy677 2012-07-28 17:49
I fervently hope you are wrong. The idea of Jeb Bush or for that matter any republican ever winning the presidency again; within a generation; is too depressing to contemplate.
 
 
+32 # ericsongs 2012-07-28 18:47
You and me both....you and me both.
 
 
+8 # America 2012-07-30 03:42
Agree about Palin but your predictions are so far fetched. IF we sit back assured that Romney will lose..we WILL lose. Your future prediticons can only be labeled pessimistic not based on real logicl thinking.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-30 09:09
I beat Dragons I know more that did so...leave Dragons out of this. These are serpents that slither in slime and dung.

Jeb Bush...I believe with the hopefuls of the 2016 his family, wars, snl, florida bs will not go away. W is not going away... I believe that another party could emerge from us, finally show future what we can do. Jeb Bush....please worry more about the clone from Ron Paul who is so over the edge. He has plans on running, taking no prisoners
 
 
-27 # FatCharley 2012-07-29 07:54
While I agree that Palin seemed to be "a post-beauty-que en ditz" back then, she has shown herself to be highly capable of making her way up a serious learning curve. If I was forced to choose between Palin and Michelle Bachmann, believe me (as a Minnesotan), Palin is the one who would be far and away the better choice.
 
 
+48 # Mrcead 2012-07-29 13:39
Well thank God that was a hypothetical situation.
 
 
+5 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-30 09:10
There are better women and none on GOP ...Palin has learned to make money for herself. Her family has learned to become Hollywood _______!
 
 
+5 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-30 09:06
Keep thine enemy sister in plain sight...always know what the Republican Women are up to, everyone of them
 
 
+148 # freeportguy 2012-07-28 07:22
Palin: no substance whatsoever. All slogans and one liners.

She's in her natural habitat in reality tv, Fox News Entertainment and teabagger parties.
 
 
+45 # Interested Observer 2012-07-28 10:26
That would be difficult to refudiate!
 
 
+32 # colpow 2012-07-28 12:13
You betcha!
 
 
+18 # VLR 2012-07-28 07:32
I disagree that Sarah Palin has scotched it for a female Republican VP candidate. Almost anyone would make Romney look better except Sarah Palin herself--or maybe Bachmann, but let's stay in the realm of reality here. I think Romney could make a giddy choice, and it might not even backfire on him.
 
 
+47 # hjsteed 2012-07-28 07:33
The Mormon Church doesn't allow women to be President (of their Church). The Mormon Church President might have a "vision" to allow it...
 
 
+17 # vicnada 2012-07-28 18:24
The operative word is "women".
The Mormon Church biblically defined marriage as a union between a man and-- I'm sure Mitt has not forgotten--as many women as he wished. Wouldn't his political "vision" follow with a polygamous Presidency? ten pretty vice-Palins with whom to develop his policies? You think McCain's "Hail Mary" pass ruined it for women? Wait till you see Mitt's "Hail Moroni".
 
 
+2 # FatCharley 2012-07-29 07:58
HJsteed, indeed, that is the outlet for the Mormon Church to move incrementally into whatever "the modern world" might look like to them at any time - "the vision thing."

How clever to have a "tributary" into modernism like this!
 
 
+4 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-30 09:12
Mormon 'Church' is starting to show its ugly head....Cult is more like it. They switch sides more than and Jersey Voter
 
 
+138 # Robert B 2012-07-28 08:01
The problem of Sarah Palin is the problem of the Republican Party in general: anti-intellectu alism. The GOP has been shoving mental midgets at us for years, and Sarah Palin is just one of them, not all that different from all the others. Dan Quayle, George Bush (both of them), Herman Cain, Michele Bachmann, Bob Dole, Rick Perry, Sharron Angle, Jan Brewer and many others. You might think that the President of the United States should be someone smart. But the last really smart Republican Presidential candidate was Richard Nixon.
 
 
-151 # marstob 2012-07-28 09:39
In respect to your list - please don't include Michele Bachmann. This is one tenacious and knowledgeable individual and, as a woman has shown the world what that gender is made of. And, thank you for Richard Nixon - who has never been given the proper credit which he deserves.
 
 
+91 # mdhome 2012-07-28 10:18
WHAT??? Bachmann is the coo coo for cocoa puffs of the nation.
 
 
+36 # mickeynow 2012-07-28 10:37
I'm afraid if Bachmann is the standard bearer for women. The women I ask about this look to the heavens for succor.
 
 
+70 # MEBrowning 2012-07-28 11:07
Pitbulls are known for their tenacity, too — but I wouldn't want one for VIce President. As for knowledgeable: You're kidding, right?

Richard Nixon was smart but a textbook paranoid. We wouldn't do well with another of those, either.
 
 
+50 # reiverpacific 2012-07-28 19:19
Quoting marstob:
In respect to your list - please don't include Michele Bachmann. This is one tenacious and knowledgeable individual and, as a woman has shown the world what that gender is made of. And, thank you for Richard Nixon - who has never been given the proper credit which he deserves.

Tenacious yes, knowledgeable about what? Biblical (fantasy, old-testament) precedent? Praying away the gay? Muslim terrorists advising Hilary Clinton? Do away with the department of education? A graduate of O.W. Coburn Law School of holy-roller Oral Roberts University, breeding ground of old-time allegedly Christian reaction?
Want more?
Gimme a break; she is a stellar example of what far too many Americans will choose to believe, however fantastic, against their interests and that of universal freedom.
 
 
+19 # FatCharley 2012-07-29 08:07
Quoting marstob:
And, thank you for Richard Nixon - who has never been given the proper credit which he deserves.

I agree with this (and I am politically well on the left). The legislative legacy of Nixon is one everyone has to thank for so much progress on so many (environmental, social, political) fronts. He was paranoid and not particularly charming. But he swung behind legislation that Congress favored in all of our interests.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-30 09:16
I believe due to his leanings, learnings he was a Fall Guy for the Power Lords who we are getting to see more and more.
Believe those are going to come down, with Europe and Asia not buying into us, South America also feigning any real business with us. I believe we will strip the kingdom of their robes yet
 
 
+17 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2012-07-29 10:04
I will "thank" Michele Bachmann when she gives up corporate Socialism. She and her company (including her hmm gay husband)-I have nothing against the gays-annually drain lots of $, several hundred thousands of U.S. taxpayer dollars as government subsidies. Then she states, (LOL)according to the bible, "if he (or she) will not work, neither shall they survive," (die.) Bachmann knows how to survive with the blessing of her God, her God being United States tax paid dollars, taken out as corporate welfare.
 
 
+2 # Mrcead 2012-07-29 13:44
Please let this be some form of highly developed sarcasm we've not experienced as yet because it almost sounds as if you are deadly earnest.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-30 09:14
Great sarcasm
 
 
+40 # lexy677 2012-07-28 17:53
You are so right but you forgot one of the most prominent members of this "gallery of dunces", Ronald "the pea brained" Reagan.
 
 
+14 # FatCharley 2012-07-29 08:03
Quoting Robert B:
You might think that the President of the United States should be someone smart. But the last really smart Republican Presidential candidate was Richard Nixon.


True, despite that paranoid streak he had.

And he was the last president to introduce really progressive legislation. Regardless of the constitution of the House and Senate, his program put in place much of what we know today as "progressive" - pretty amazing - and he sold it to his party and we were all glad it happened.
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-30 09:19
No my parents were glad it happened. ReaGun was a outright Hypocrite, Hollywood Creep.
Like Heston and NRA disgusting to the core.

Not to many morals since Ike. Nixon unfortunately is still left hanging but I give him respect for the Work he did for environment, social. Rest is just black out.
 
 
+33 # mickeynow 2012-07-28 08:29
Even if Palin had never scared the country in getting as close to the presidency as she did, Romney would not ever, as far as I can see, choose a woman to be his VP. That is the tragedy of the man.
 
 
+56 # Feral Dogz 2012-07-28 09:20
Quoting mickeynow:
Even if Palin had never scared the country in getting as close to the presidency as she did, Romney would not ever, as far as I can see, choose a woman to be his VP. That is the tragedy of the man.


What makes you think Romney gets to do the choosing?
 
 
+12 # mickeynow 2012-07-28 10:34
Sorta like Palin being chosen by McCain. After all, Romney is the man.
 
 
+16 # lexy677 2012-07-28 17:57
Oh yes he would. You are giving him too much credit for having any principles..eve n wrong ones. The man's ambition surpasses that of Lucifer....he WILL do anything win.
 
 
+52 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2012-07-28 09:11
Bill Maher once commenetd, Sara Palin is Dan Quail with "titx." Is it reasonable to think the Republican Rarty Plutocrats would find a woman with brains as a running mate? No, the wealthy run the party and look for someone who is good looking, can speak very well and has no brains. The candidate Palin was merely window dressing.
 
 
+37 # futhark 2012-07-28 09:48
Yes, the ideal candidate for the Plutocratic Party is one that looks good on TV, can read a teleprompter, and has absolutely no intellectual substance and is incapable of critical thinking. The "talent" for one liners helps to make her seem more real, as in the "real (white, patriotic, Christian) Americans".
 
 
+31 # mdhome 2012-07-28 10:21
Their mistake 4 years ago was the picked someone too lazy to learn enough of the basics about this country to keep from uttering stupid incorrect sh*t.
 
 
+10 # FatCharley 2012-07-29 08:14
[quote name="Eldon J. Bloedorn"] Is it reasonable to think the Republican Party Plutocrats would find a woman with brains as a running mate?
Leaving aside Palin and Bachmann, neither of whom is a credible public intellectual (brains they both have, though)I would be delighted to see one or both parties come forward with women who are thinkers, doers and philosophers in our mutual public interest. We can all name more than one of these women - so let's see about getting them on a ballot.
 
 
+10 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2012-07-29 09:53
Palin is politically smart. And she has the looks that attract the "older white males" for "whatever" reason. Bill Maher once commented (I love this guy) "Obama will show his birth certificate when Palin shows her high school diploma." LOL!!!
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-30 09:21
Amen
 
 
-43 # marstob 2012-07-28 09:36
tHis article was a back-handed compliment to Palin. But - never mentioned was FACT that women have yet to become nominated to be a President of the United States nor in the future either.. Palin may not have been knowledgeable but she was a quick learner and McCain's grouo figuratlivey threw her under the bus - with the media's help. Rice could well be the best of all to be the President - but she's no fool and so she won't. Clinton, Hillary, earned the right in the Democratic party -but, she's a woman. Romney has little choice but to pick a male running mate - probably Rubio. Cheers.
 
 
+25 # reiverpacific 2012-07-28 12:09
Quoting marstob:
tHis article was a back-handed compliment to Palin. But - never mentioned was FACT that women have yet to become nominated to be a President of the United States nor in the future either.. Palin may not have been knowledgeable but she was a quick learner and McCain's grouo figuratlivey threw her under the bus - with the media's help. Rice could well be the best of all to be the President - but she's no fool and so she won't. Clinton, Hillary, earned the right in the Democratic party -but, she's a woman. Romney has little choice but to pick a male running mate - probably Rubio. Cheers.

How 'bout Cynthia McKinney (Green Party),Elvena Lloyd-Ruffle (Independent), Gloria La Riva (Party for Socialism and Liberation or Diane Beall Templin (American Party)? Not worthy of mention 'cause they didn't have the big buck election buyers behind them, what? -And that olny goes back to 2008.
 
 
+5 # FatCharley 2012-07-29 08:15
Here, HERE!!! Well said.
 
 
+8 # Ray Kondrasuk 2012-07-29 15:31
I'm still snagged on Ms. Rice's early October, 2002 statement about Iraq's intercepted receipt of aluminum tubes "that could only be used for enriching uranium", one of the several false pillars of justification for deposing Saddam.

Unless she has recanted and apologized, I still feel her name might be better pronounced "Condo-LIE-zza" .
 
 
+25 # reiverpacific 2012-07-28 09:36
The real problem "Twit" Romney and his handlers have, is choosing someone of any gender who is less interesting, gaffe-prone or believable than he is.
I can't come up with a name right now but I'm sure some of you'se can.
 
 
+16 # Regina 2012-07-28 10:20
Dose of us who say "youse" know bedder. We're from Noo Yawk. We're so smart we wuddent vote for Romney, so we wuddent pick a vice candidate for him.
 
 
+6 # reiverpacific 2012-07-28 12:12
Quoting Regina:
Dose of us who say "youse" know bedder. We're from Noo Yawk. We're so smart we wuddent vote for Romney, so we wuddent pick a vice candidate for him.

Well lawcks-a-mighty y'all; good fer you! Gadzooks, e'fackins, forsooth and help ma boab, yer a real "coakah" (as a Brooklyn buddy of mine w'd say).
 
 
+5 # FatCharley 2012-07-29 08:16
Quoting reiverpacific:
The real problem "Twit" Romney and his handlers have, is choosing someone of any gender who is less interesting, gaffe-prone or believable than he is.
I can't come up with a name right now but I'm sure some of you'se can.


I like how you bundled the "less interesting, gaffe-prone" and believable. You hit "the ned on the hail" as we sometimes put it. Good on YOU!
 
 
0 # wrodwell 2012-08-01 00:28
How about "Bozo the Clown"?
 
 
+22 # brenda 2012-07-28 09:54
I think both Palin and Bachmann are both politically inept twits. Their inclusion in the VP slot will be an instant liability for the Presidential ticket. To see Rice in the slot would make for an interesting fight. She is vetted from her past experience in the Presidential Cabinet. It's unfortunate that her president was G W Bush, a moron of epic proportion. On the other hand, President Obama would do better if he had a new female VP instead of Biden. He's getting old and makes too many gaffs. The one where he fell asleep in the last State of the Union session. OMG how could that happen. That's got to be a historical first. My point with Obama choosing a Female VP candidate is that there is a lot of women voters out there, and I think many of them have their heads filled with good knowledge, regarding female rights of choice with their bodies and interest in Obama Health Care.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-30 09:30
If he were to cut off Biden that would be a very big problemo.
Gee why would I fall asleep at a dinner perhaps I was so busy running details, handling my part of the deal, listening to everyone no one else wants to, having meetings with members to get their Laws approved. Cutting ribbons, cutting it short, meeting with Military, Labor, Gee I cannot imagine that a 40 hour day 10 days a week should render me tired at all.
Maybe you should take a day with a Government Official from say 7:00 am on to when they may get a nap.
I wish we had the sense to have Biden for President but I appreciate Labor, Jobs, Benefits, Balancing Budgets and and actual nice person who doesnot look down at ya. If he says he can understand, he comes closer than anyone in DC that can. If you knew anything about him...he certainly knows about Medical Issues, Costs, Programs.
Read Up bashing Romney for opening his mouth is one thing but not knowing anything about what Politicians do....do you really thing the Pres or VP has a vacation? Do you actually think they turn off their cell phones?
 
 
0 # brenda 2012-07-30 14:30
Just in case you haven't noticed. The election will be won in the swing states. The Southern and Midwest have tons of voters who will go out and vote Republican because that the way they think. The Democrats in these states seem to not really show up because they might think the Republicans will win it. There's where the female vote can give the elections a boost for the Democratic ticket. They always come out to vote, and maybe a vetted experienced female VP will cement their votes firmly democrat. Remember, there's going to be a lot of racial hatred by the right wing nuts. We need to make up the difference with solid support. As for Biden's falling asleep, I think it has more to do with age. I remember when GWB fell asleep in front of the Pope when he visited the Vatican. Actually, I thought that was very funny, because who listens to the Pope anyway. And yes, the President and the VP do get to have vacations. As many as they feel necessary. And no, they don't turn off their "cell phones". I think you might mean secure military phones which can go anywhere in the world with them. I think they can also talk to Russia or any other country any time they want, on a 24 hour 7 day a week basis.
 
 
+3 # Kootenay Coyote 2012-07-28 10:13
I shall weep a crocodile tear.
 
 
+13 # Bob-Investigates 2012-07-28 10:38
Palin is an SNL skit. I agree that the Rat Party didn't really want to win in 2008 due to the G.W. Bonehead-Rat Party created near Depression that was about to explode. So the Rove-Rats have been blasting the air waves with the Big Lie that "it's all Obama's fault." I'm angry with Obama for not being more careful with his words, "The Middle-class is fine"---he should have said, "The Middle-class is doing better." I hate it when progressive politicians give verbal ammo to the Plutocrat enemy. Biden needs a piece of duct tape on his mouth. "IF you can't say something smart, don't say anything!" NOTE how G.W. and Shoot-em-up Cheney are not campaigning with The Twitt and there are a ton of reasons for that. The RAT / PlutoRat Party wants the voters to totally forget about the 8 massively disastrous years of Shrub & SnakeHead Cheney. So they are invisible. The entire Bush family will be absent from the RAT convention---wh at does that tell you? A LOT!!! If Twitt / Party of Greed bigshots got Rice to agree to run, it would complicate the election for Obama. But, just my opinion, I don't think Rice could overcome the negative stuff about Twitt. No politician with even half a brain would ever say, "I don't care about Poor People.....they have a safety net." HEY MITT---WWJD? Anyhow, don't bet your last nickel on this November election. The Bush family / PlutoRats STOLE the 2000 election in Florida---Watch Greg Palast's "Bush Family Fortunes" for the absolute proof!
 
 
-59 # gzuckier 2012-07-28 10:40
Such a shame that the Palin Hangover will prevent the rise of brilliant talented Republican women like Michelle Bachmann. Just like reaction to the hardcore hatred of white people shown by the President and First Lady prevent the nomination of brilliant and talented black Republicans like Herman Cain and Michael Steele.
 
 
+21 # ericsongs 2012-07-28 12:53
LOL
Oh, good one gzuckier!
The rest didn't read it carefully enough.

You have got a really soft and subtle touch to your technique.
 
 
+8 # Bob-Investigates 2012-07-28 13:58
Quoting gzuckier:
Such a shame that the Palin Hangover will prevent the rise of brilliant talented Republican women like Michelle Bachmann. ...the nomination of brilliant and talented black Republicans like Herman Cain and Michael Steele.


YES, and my cats have Ph.D's in Astrophysics. What have you been smoking? Cain and Steele? YIKES--they are nothing but paid-off little shills for the RAT-PlutoRat Party. Bachmann "brilliant-tale nted?" WHAT??? I have a suggestion for you--go back and start over in kindergarten! First, Bachmann is a huge LIAR and its been well proven. She lied about getting federal money for the farm she inherited from her father. She lied about campaign contributions. AND, she talks like a total whack job. What's next for her? FOX fake snooze will get her to say that Obama is actually an alien and he's hiding his 3rd eye. If I had any extra money, I'd actually bet on it to happen. AND, BTW, Obama, unlike Shrub brainless--the druggie-alky and The Massive Twitt, has been helping the Middle-class and Poor. So, bottom line, YOU are either a Plutocrat yourself or a so-sad, FOX brain-washed teabagger lemming. So, put up billboards all over America, saying, "Michelle Bachmann is brilliant and talented", then listen to millions of smart Americans laugh so hard they bust a gut. OH, BTW, change you handle from "gzuckier" to "Ratpublican-dr ooling Sucker." See, from what you posted, that fits a lot better.
 
 
+12 # Regina 2012-07-28 14:56
Hey, Bob, dontcha recognize sarcasm when it comes your way? I'm an optimist, hoping that gzuckier was being sarcastic, but I gave that comment another thumbs-down anyway, just to be safe.
 
 
+2 # p.Billy 2012-07-29 08:00
Quoting Regina:
Hey, Bob, dontcha recognize sarcasm when it comes your way? I'm an optimist, hoping that gzuckier was being sarcastic, but I gave that comment another thumbs-down anyway, just to be safe.

Regina: "...just to be safe?" That's a huge problem in this country: folks choose to take the coward's way. And apparently, from all the thumbs down gzuckier received, there are many readers who prefer to be safe rather than do the right thing. If I'm not sure, I don't click either thumbs up or down. I know people who are planning to vote for Romney, 'just to be safe!'

I gave gzuckier a thumbs up, which is what he deserved. "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
 
 
+2 # Bob-Investigates 2012-07-29 12:12
Quoting Regina:
Hey, Bob, dontcha recognize sarcasm when it comes your way? I'm an optimist, hoping that gzuckier was being sarcastic, but I gave that comment another thumbs-down anyway, just to be safe.


Sorry, it didn't look like sarcasm to me. It looked more like 24/7 FOX brain-washed comments. The author should have added a "Not!" There are actually dumdums out there who "think" that way. I see gzuckier's comments have a Negative 39. I like that! You might be right, Regina. I don't claim to be Purrr-fect (but don't ask my wife.)
 
 
+6 # ericsongs 2012-07-28 15:53
Bob,
I think if you get out your magnifying glass and look behind the curtain, you will discover that "gzuckier" was espousing the same sentiments that you so directly expressed.
He may be the veritable reincarnation of Jonathan Swift. (I wish I knew how to contact others in this forum.)

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+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-30 09:31
I would vote for Lady Gaga first
 
 
+8 # TomDegan 2012-07-28 11:34
Romney is danged if he does and danged if he don't. The only type of running mate that will bring out the "base" will need to have the IQ of a half-eaten box of Milk Duds. But that would scare the hell out of moderate Americans.

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Tom Degan
 
 
+3 # FatCharley 2012-07-29 08:21
[quote name="TomDegan" ]Romney is danged if he does and danged if he don't. The only type of running mate that will bring out the "base" will need to have the IQ of a half-eaten box of Milk Duds.

You win my informal prize for "Apt and Clever Analogy" ... Wish we had Milk Duds here in Switzerland, though...
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-30 09:33
You have better esp since you do not have Hershey
 
 
+15 # robniel 2012-07-28 12:10
Let's face it, Palin is a know-nothing quitter governor of a state not as populated as many American cities. She could not pass a citizenshipo test, much less speak knowledgeably about any subject of importance to the U.S. government. Hopefully, Romney will find a V.P. candidate as least as qualified, but in the end it will be said that (GOP) idology killed the cat.
 
 
-12 # Radial1971 2012-07-28 13:48
First of all, whether one is from a small town, large town or major metropolis should not disqualify someone from being President. Barack Obama didn't have credentials other than being a community organizer. Sarah Palin's problem was not her qualifications. It was that she didn't want the office - she wanted the fame and to be in the public spotlight. I think that once she was in it, she realized the toll it took on her family, made very wise decision for her family, fine-tuned her goals, and has become a spokesperson. Whether people love her or hate her is their decision. However, what it takes to be the mayor or governor of any size - to be able to lead a group of people from all political backgrounds into having a successful town or community; balance a budget; hire qualified staff or manage elected officials who may have varying opinions and visions than yours - small town or large (small communities are a very valuable and common asset to our nation, filled with many of the kindest people who manage businesses, farm, and provide much common sense to our country) shouldn't be the determining factor for qualifications - it's how successful one is in doing that.
 
 
+7 # Bob-Investigates 2012-07-29 12:27
TO: "#radial1971", hummmm, you could write some glowing resumes for some convicted felons. Aren't you aware of Palin's firing the head of the Alaska Highway Patrol (Trooper-gate), because he refused to fire Palin's sister's husband? The drooling Republican-cont rolled Alaskan government panel should have punished then Gov Palin for her dirty tricks, but gave her (figures) a slap-on-the-wri st. So, she proved in that incident that she is dishonest, unethical and untrustworthy. Get it? Personally, I wouldn't trust her to pick up my garbage---she might throw it behind some bushes (!) so she wouldn't have to carry it to the truck. So, she was successful all right---success ful in showing the world that she's a major Phony. Her 15 minutes were up a LONG time ago. Next, she'll start a company trying to sell ice cubes to the Eskimos.
 
 
+4 # bmiluski 2012-07-30 07:07
Sarah Palin makes decisions that affect ONLY Sarah Palin. She dragged that poor child out whenever there was a crowd. It didn't matter if it was the child's bedtime, out he came. She quite he office because she wanted to go on a book tour. Please, she was and still is a typical opportunist. The only one who is better at this is Mama Kardashian.
 
 
+17 # moby doug 2012-07-28 14:05
Of course it's tough to find a decent woman VP candidate in the sexist, patriarchal, GOP. What kind of women but know-nothing racist ranters like Palin and Bachmann would want to join the Republicans in the first place? Oh, that's right, there are moneyed Medusas like Barbara Bush and Ann Romney. But they're scary "helpmates," not running mates.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-30 09:36
They both are opportunistic women
 
 
-11 # Td1235 2012-07-28 16:29
I don't think that Sarah Palin is stupid. I think she learned that this particular persona was what would get Republican votes. She certainly seems to be short on knowledge she would need, but that wasn't the schtick she needed to learn in a limited time to run as VP.
 
 
+12 # reiverpacific 2012-07-28 19:29
Quoting Td1235:
I don't think that Sarah Palin is stupid. I think she learned that this particular persona was what would get Republican votes. She certainly seems to be short on knowledge she would need, but that wasn't the schtick she needed to learn in a limited time to run as VP.

Ah but think and shudder, even with a little gratitude.
Imagine a PTSD, damaged and untreated former POW president as McCain might ha' been (and at least her did serve) buckling under the inevitable pressure of the presidency, bequeathing the girl-next-door ignoramus-oppor tunist with unique and exclusive access to the ever-present Red Button of Armageddon!
Arm-a-geddon-outa-here!
 
 
+2 # ilenewells 2012-07-30 06:53
No, she's stupid.
 
 
-13 # Td1235 2012-07-28 16:33
I've thought for some time that Kay Bailey Hutchison would be a very good choice for running mate, but hope she won't be offered the job.
 
 
+7 # Rick Levy 2012-07-28 19:05
So what if Romney were to choose a female running mate? As long as there are women in the misogynist Republican party both as office holders and voters, then feminists shouldn't blame just Republican men for trashing women's rights.
 
 
+6 # ghostperson 2012-07-28 22:08
To suggest that running a Latina VP candidate will get Hispanic female votes is to insult women. Bush I chose Dan Quayle because he was young and believed to be cute, in a vanilla way, to get the young vote. A total a bust. Running La Palin, only got McCain the already converted. Palin, who thought China was a country, was an affront to female intelligence. Palin and Quayle became butt(s) of horrific derision and remain the object of derisive humor. Nothing is going to get mainstream women to vote for a wooden marionette with no judgment edit button, who is from a patriarchal cult that treats women like brood mares and who lacks even passing familiarity with the lives and needs of ordinary people. He creeps most women I know out in a very Stepford way. Only females inculcated into old testament think will vote for a weird man whose party proposes vaginal penetration of women with probes as a shaming and humiliation device because she claims the right to control her person. What the far right doesn't get is that women won't bother jumping through hoops. They will exercise choice the old fashioned way--by going underground as women did before.
 
 
+8 # Amir Mashay 2012-07-29 06:42
The reason why Romney won't choose another Palin is he already what she is - uninformed, stupid, ill-suited for high office. So his running mate will have to be different. Hard to find that in the Republican Party.
 
 
-3 # FatCharley 2012-07-29 09:28
Um ... Romney is not what Palin is. (And she is not stupid. She is "a quick study of the superficial.") Romney is not stupid, either. Although he is overly self-satisfied. He is also not uninformed (but he is persuaded that he is very correct). This is a different paradigm from Palin. And it worries me. Palin is not half as doctrinaire as Romney is. She is from Alaska, after all. And not a Mormon.
 
 
+8 # FatCharley 2012-07-29 09:30
I am pleased to be able to vote for my local Minnesota representative to continue his excellent representation of our district - Thank You, Keith Ellison! You have been one of a number of rational voices in Congress and we support you !!
 
 
+9 # Abigail 2012-07-29 09:33
As an elderly representative of the non-existent club of women who have worked through the development of the woman's movement, let me share the fears I had during my professional career. I did not dare to fail. I knew I was being scrutinized constantly , many, but fortunately not all, or my colleagues waiting for me to make an error they could pounce on. It is tragic that the first woman selected to run for Vice-President was and is not suitable, but the fear that all us pioneers had is now justified. The whole concept of competent woman leaders gets denigrated, and we start sliding back to the nineteenth century. Women in this country and many others will not have reached equality as long as they are judged by the actions of women who manage to get in the limelight, and are unsuitable for it. When will we be able to judge a person who happens to be female by her own deeds instead of assuming she will be ditzy until she proves otherwise?
 
 
+7 # Bob-Investigates 2012-07-29 12:35
Quoting Abigail:
As an elderly representative of the non-existent club of women who have worked through the development of the woman's movement, let me share the fears I had during my professional career. I did not dare to fail. I knew I was being scrutinized constantly , many, but fortunately not all, or my colleagues waiting for me to make an error they could pounce on. It is tragic that the first woman selected to run for Vice-President was and is not suitable, but the fear that all us pioneers had is now justified. The whole concept of competent woman leaders gets denigrated, and we start sliding back to the nineteenth century. Women in this country and many others will not have reached equality as long as they are judged by the actions of women who manage to get in the limelight, and are unsuitable for it. When will we be able to judge a person who happens to be female by her own deeds instead of assuming she will be ditzy until she proves otherwise?


Remember: Ferrero was the VP candidate with Mondale. She was qualified, unlike Pathetic Palin.
 
 
+6 # ghostperson 2012-07-29 12:21
The small mindedness of this piece is overwhelming. The GOP ran a woman who thought Africa was a country so there can be no women running mates for now?

By that associative criteria, a male should not have been chosen by the GOP. The GOP had one recent president who was inert on his feet verbally, gaffed in every direction when he was not scripted to calcification and destroyed the economy to boot. But that hasn't cut out other males from running. So why is there a special standard for women? Especially, since idiotic males picked her. Women never would have. She is cute, cunning and intellectually lazy. She is classically "ignorant." She refuses knowledge. Not a good combo. She is the GOP's Paris Hilton/Kim Kardashian, all about self-promotion. I applaud her success in that regard but would never, ever have voted to put her in a positon to have a digit on nuclear bombs or interact with world leaders. World leaders would have laughed at us. Every third world despot would have taken a shot at us, judging our strength by the calibre of whom we elected.

To the writer's premise that the GOP tried a woman once and it was a bust, shows a paucity of critical analytical capability that is shocking, truly shocking.
 
 
+1 # ilenewells 2012-07-30 06:56
She is only delivering the information. There is no way that the GOP would put up a Woman as a VP right now - the article is correct. It isn't the author's idea, it is how she is reading the GOP right now and she is correct. They don't value real women, judging by the dolt they put up in the body of Palin. They wanted a "woman" - but someone they could push around and they thought they got it in Palin, but they didn't realize she was a pit-bull in a china shop!
 
 
+1 # bmiluski 2012-07-30 07:11
First of all, this is a male dominated society. Men can be stupid and elected. Women, because of their gender are not allowed that luxury.
Second, why do you people refuse to take responsibilty for running this ecomony into the ground. It's scares me because it tells me that you've not learned ANYTHING and will do the same thing AGAIN.
 
 
0 # Old Man 2012-07-29 14:17
Now if anyone from the left were seen wearing a hat like she has on, they would say were is the "RED STAR" on that hat.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-07-30 09:49
Unless women in GOP start standing up to the Good Ol Boys...I do not see any worth my vote.
I do not know if a smart GOP Woman wants to run as the 'show mate' for Romney after the Palin Fiasco then Bachman overdrive. For that I am proud. I was surprised the other NJ ex Governor was not following Romeny around. She is a Good Ol Boy, not as stupid as the BP twins. But she doesnot believe in equality unless for rich, no environment laws...etc.

And with most planning for 2016 I hope we make it to then to be allowed to vote again. Perhaps by then you will have to show your voter id to the satellite dish co.

I certainly do not see any good male candidates so Mittens needs someone who is not brighter than him...that is hard. He needs someone that cannot sing in another language or dance on an animal. He needs someone who has a bad smile, poor looks, not so showy a wife. Well, that leaves Christie of NJ....Obnoxious , cannot dress, bad manners, not good to view on any angle, bully, ...from NJ Hopefully that would be enough to make every Real Republican change Party...could be win/win. Most will not vote because of NJ. He could severely hurt the deficit from eating, and perhaps lawsuits for his derogatory remarks. He knows nothing so that would not outshine Mitts dimness.
 
 
+1 # dkonstruction 2012-07-30 12:45
Margaret Thatcher stood up to the Brit "good Ol Boys"...So did Jeane Kirkpatrick. Is that your political yardstick? Sad, if it's the case. There's nothing "progressive" about a fascist simply because she's a woman. This is one of the big problems with Identity Politics.
 
 
0 # dkonstruction 2012-07-30 12:13
And, so, the point of this article? Are we to bemoan the fact that since Palin: "for a national candidate to choose a relatively unknown woman from a small state as his running mate is impossible?"

Or is the point of the piece to defend Palin against how she was treated by the McCain camp (and the press too perhaps)? Are we to take seriously Meyers comment that: "Palin’s politics aren’t the problem. Nor is it the fact that she and McCain lost in 2008. Palin actually showed admirable resilience during the campaign, as she was thrust onto the national stage by a campaign that failed epically to prepare or protect her. There’s no doubt that she is gifted in the art of politics, and I do mean that as a compliment.

How much money was this woman paid to write this dreck? I want her job.
 
 
+2 # MichiganLiberal 2012-07-30 13:19
Romney needs a running mate who won't out-shine him. For the dullest GOP presidential candidate in many years this is a daunting task. He also needs someone whom people will take seriously. Palin NEVER seemed to me a serious candidate, and she outshone McCain in terms of spark, controversy, and media buzz. An even dimmer bulb like Romney would look all the more dull next to someone like her.

And so Romney needs to find an anti-Palin, i.e. somebody who is both dull and yet can be taken seriously. Romney's VP choice must be reasonably smart without seeming brilliant, dull without seeming incompetent.

Mitt Romney needs to create a clone of himself.
 
 
0 # wrodwell 2012-08-01 00:30
How about a female impersonator?
 
 
0 # wrodwell 2012-08-01 00:26
Thanks to author Dee Dee Myers, we here in New Mexico learn for the very first time that Governor Susana Martinez is "well-respected ". That's news to a lot of people in this "jump ball" state. For example: one of Martinez' first initiatives after becoming governor was to try and kill the Film Incentive Program that has a proven track record of not only creating jobs in the film business for many New Mexican residents in an economically challenged state, but of also having a significant economic impact among both large and small businesses in the various localities where the films are produced. Without this influx of film production money many local businesses would be in rather dire shape, especially in this moribund economy. The question the rather flippant Miss Myers should be asking is why would a supposedly "well respected" governor want to kill such an economically successful program especially in times such as these? Not only is regional competition intense from states like Utah and Louisiana, but serious competition also comes from states as far afield as North Carolina, Michigan and New York. Hey, Dee Dee Myers - your "Vanity" is not only "Unfair", it's worse: misinformed.
 

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