Pierce writes: "So, I was at the Netroots Nation thing on Thursday, hanging with the invaluable David Neiwert, who has spent years tracking and reporting on the activities of America's violent white-supremacist underground. 'Hey,' he said to me, 'what about that thing in Florida?'"
Mugshots of 10 alleged members of the neo-Nazi skinhead group American Front. (photo: CFNews13.com)
Terror by Another Name
10 June 12
o, I was at the Netroots Nation thing on Thursday, hanging with the invaluable David Neiwert, who has spent years tracking and reporting on the activities of America's violent white-supremacist underground. "Hey," he said to me, "what about that thing in Florida?"
"What thing in Florida?" I responded, demonstrating once again how very much on top of things I am. I knew Florida had Pensacola, which had a reputation for being the OK Corral, especially when it came to shooting abortion doctors, and that it was a place in which, if you shot an abortion doctor, a nice fella who later would host the morning show on liberal MSNBC would represent you in court. But that was the best I could do. No, Neiwert said, the thing that happened a couple of weeks ago.
Fine looking bunch of patriots, aren't they?
Is it necessary to point out ... oh, hell, of course it's necessary to point out that the rounding up of these people did not occasion the BREAKING NEWS graphic, or the shouty anchorpeople, or the thrilling theme music, or the thundering of a newly minted logo - TERROR IN OUR TOWN!!!!!!!! - and all the other set decoration unpacked by our news directors every time an undercover FBI dude convinces some shoeless loser that he can lead the international Jihad from the packing crate in which the fellow now spends the evening. It is very important to know who The Terrorists really are. It is important to keep people afraid only of the right people.
Oh, and there's more of this going on, too.
Somebody should cook up a logo right quick.
Of course, as the Los Angeles Times points out ...
The arrests serve as one of numerous reminders of the efforts of law enforcement to monitor, and sometimes crack down on, the militia and hate groups whose numbers have ticked up since the election of President Obama.
Geez, I just can't imagine why that would be the case.
(UPDATE - Thanks to the commenters for pointing out that my Florida geography was off, and I apologize to Dave for misquoting him, and to the assembled for typing in haste.)
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We all have hatred, the ones who justify it by harming others or animals just don't stop.
However, with a bunch of incipient terrorists, waiting for them to pull off an end run and get their own guns and explosives (Was Timothy McVeigh very "intelliegent") might be very risky.
Let me ask you, Noni, what would your reaction be if someone offered "out of the blue" to get you weapons and explosives? Would that turn you into a terrorist?
I suspect your answer would be a rather disdainful "Of course not." But your reality seems at least partly based on a level of education that this group of disenfranchised social cast-offs probably never had.
Yes, noni, I know a man in Texas who the DEA convinced him he should go to México and buy kilos of grass. They made it easy for him, they gave him the money, the van, the contact in México and the buyer, when he returned. It's, Actually, worst Than "Fast and Furious"
See
http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2012/06/reflections-on-bestial-culture-ii-when.html
June 10, 2012
Reflections on a Bestial Culture (II): When the State Proclaims It Is Become Death
Part I: Reflections on a Bestial Culture, Ready and Eager for Slaughter
( http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2012/06/reflections-on-bestial-culture-ready.html )
[...]
Silber has a couple of other new posts too -- see http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/
Watching Joe's daily bullying tactics coupled with his right wing 'talking point' dog whistles is a jaw tiring and molar depleting exercise. Nonetheless, it seems necessary to stay alert to the correlations with Rush, Hannity, Savage, Boortz and the other book burning purveyors of 'individualism' as a means to keep humanity separate from concern for one another and subject to propaganda extolling testosterone enriched Aryan 'superiority'. Joe Six Pack is their heroic man and blood and gore on the racetrack is their draw. Collateral damage is the excuse for the mayhem their cute indifference creates.
"Our invasion of this country......"
I don't know where to start. Look North America was colonized(invad ed)by the British. Most of the original colonies/settle ments were penal colonies. Massachussets, Virginia, the Carolinas Georgia were penal colonies; in other words the British exported their felons to north america for years before australia became available. So depending on how long ago your ancestors came here, they were most likely not "invaders". They were common criminals who were used by the british to do their dirty work for them. They were as much victims as the native americans.
Very funny, very sad too. I was fortunate enough to become friends with a very wise Chief of one still-establish ed tribes. He was one of the wisest persons I have ever met. His connection with the forces of nature was incredibly strong, and I learned a great deal.
One of my favorite cartoons shows two natives standing in front of their grass-roofed house. A jeep with a couple of pith helmet wearing characters is bouncing down the rough road toward them. One says to the other, "Here come the representatives of the overdeveloped countries."
In order to have a sane civilization we must "join with them", since our destruction of nature and ultimately the planet would be impossible if we had even a small part of the awareness of the importance of nature and the real forces that allow a planet to work.
Knowing the Chief was one of the most important experiences of my life. I met him in 1968. He is no longer with us, but his teachings live on in the minds of many who were fortunate enough to meet and spend some time with him.
He embodied all of the positive qualities of a "religious" teacher, but with an utterly no-nonsense approach that left no room for fanciful belief or mythical vagueness. One of the most potent lessons I ever had from him came watching him split firewood. We exchanged no words. He was splitting Pinon logs which have a very twisted and gnarled grain, and are extremely tough. I was about twice his size, and I used a seven pound axe I had adapted from an old adze to split the same wood. Even hitting with all my strength, my blade would sometimes get stuck. He set each log up on the block, gazed intently at it, adjusting his position, and with a three pound axe, would lift the axe a little more than shoulder high and bring it down with utter precision and relatively little force. He never failed to split the log.
That is being connected to nature in action.
Uh-huh . . . and Jefferson's Bible was considered blasphemous, because he edited out all the miracles as superstition.
As for Christians being "forbidden to show or speak any aspect of their religion in public"--are you serious? Are you living on this planet? Christian symbolism is EV'ry-f'ing-whe re in this country, and one can't walk a thousand feet in any town or city in the country without passing a church and/or being accosted by some religious type demanding to know if one has let Jesus into one's heart.
According to Monticello.org (historians) they indicate that:
"With the help of Richard Price, a Unitarian minister in London, and Joseph Priestly, an English scientist-clerg yman who emigrated to America in 1794, Jefferson eventually arrived at some positive assertions of his private religion. His ideas are nowhere better expressed than in his compilations of extracts from the New Testament "The Philosophy of Jesus" (1804) and "The Life and Morals of Jesus" (1819-20?). The former stems from his concern with the problem of maintaining social harmony in a republican nation. The latter is a multilingual collection of verses that was a product of his private search for religious truth."
He THOUGHT about using it for Native Americans, "but, abandoning this, the formal execution of his plan took the shape above described, which was for his INDIVIDUAL USE."
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=JefJesu.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=front
And where in the US can you not show aspects of Christianity?
After reading the short article, I realized I had not heard of this arrest, and went looking for more information. I was stunned at the number of racist sites there are (camouflaged by being vague, asking for viewers to join without making it clear what the real point of the site was, and using code words and racist jargon).
The comments by the members were so twisted and so full of false assumptions and distorted information that in many cases understanding what they were talking about was nearly impossible – but the thread of hatred and a perceived threat to “their way of life” was disturbingly obvious. Their idea of their “way of life” is being isolated and surrounded by “others” who are seen as sub- or only partially human – it is a life of alienation and fear of anything different – xenophobic in the extreme.
There was also an abundance of glaringly obvious hatred based on nothing but old stereotypes and primitive appeals to extreme religious programming turned into a distorted sort of elitism – perhaps partially a reaction to the elitist society at large that ignores and marginalizes them from birth.
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Part of what seems to be happening now is that the wealthy and even fairly well off parts of society do have access to something fairly close to an appropriate level of education, but the great numbers of poorer and lower economic class people are being ignored and are receiving only a sham façade of the education they need – and with the rates of drop-out, even that is often missed. The idea seems to be saving money – as in we “can’t afford” to provide decent education. We continue mistreating these people and ignoring their mental condition at the constant peril that they will be manipulated by this sort of organized hatred and destructiveness .
It is identical to the problem in Pakistan and other countries where short-sighted US Foreign policy and the corrupt, disorganized nature of the local government has given space for radical violent groups such as the Wahhabi and Taliban to step in and appear as saviors and respectable role models simply by providing rudimentary schools and basic instruction.
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Or do people think they just dress up like this?
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