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Cris Hedges reports: "These protesters have not come to work within the system. They are not pleading with Congress for electoral reform. They know electoral politics is a farce and have found another way to be heard and exercise power. They have no faith, nor should they, in the political system or the two major political parties. They know the press will not amplify their voices, and so they created a press of their own. They know the economy serves the oligarchs, so they formed their own communal system. This movement is an effort to take our country back."

Chris Hedges, journalist and former war correspondent for the New York Times, 04/14/11. (photo: file)
Chris Hedges, journalist and former war correspondent for the New York Times, 04/14/11. (photo: file)



Why the Elites Are in Trouble

By Chris Hedges, Truthdig

10 October 11

 

etchup, a petite 22-year-old from Chicago with wavy red hair and glasses with bright red frames, arrived in Zuccotti Park in New York on Sept. 17. She had a tent, a rolling suitcase, 40 dollars' worth of food, the graphic version of Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States" and a sleeping bag. She had no return ticket, no idea what she was undertaking, and no acquaintances among the stragglers who joined her that afternoon to begin the Wall Street occupation. She decided to go to New York after reading the Canadian magazine Adbusters, which called for the occupation, although she noted that when she got to the park Adbusters had no discernable presence.

The lords of finance in the looming towers surrounding the park, who toy with money and lives, who make the political class, the press and the judiciary jump at their demands, who destroy the ecosystem for profit and drain the U.S. Treasury to gamble and speculate, took little notice of Ketchup or any of the other scruffy activists on the street below them. The elites consider everyone outside their sphere marginal or invisible. And what significance could an artist who paid her bills by working as a waitress have for the powerful? What could she and the others in Zuccotti Park do to them? What threat can the weak pose to the strong? Those who worship money believe their buckets of cash, like the $4.6 million JPMorgan Chase gave a few days ago to the New York City Police Foundation, can buy them perpetual power and security. Masters all, kneeling before the idols of the marketplace, blinded by their self-importance, impervious to human suffering, bloated from unchecked greed and privilege, they were about to be taught a lesson in the folly of hubris.

Even now, three weeks later, elites, and their mouthpieces in the press, continue to puzzle over what people like Ketchup want. Where is the list of demands? Why don't they present us with specific goals? Why can't they articulate an agenda?

The goal to people like Ketchup is very, very clear. It can be articulated in one word - REBELLION. These protesters have not come to work within the system. They are not pleading with Congress for electoral reform. They know electoral politics is a farce and have found another way to be heard and exercise power. They have no faith, nor should they, in the political system or the two major political parties. They know the press will not amplify their voices, and so they created a press of their own. They know the economy serves the oligarchs, so they formed their own communal system. This movement is an effort to take our country back.

This is a goal the power elite cannot comprehend. They cannot envision a day when they will not be in charge of our lives. The elites believe, and seek to make us believe, that globalization and unfettered capitalism are natural law, some kind of permanent and eternal dynamic that can never be altered. What the elites fail to realize is that rebellion will not stop until the corporate state is extinguished. It will not stop until there is an end to the corporate abuse of the poor, the working class, the elderly, the sick, children, those being slaughtered in our imperial wars and tortured in our black sites. It will not stop until foreclosures and bank repossessions stop. It will not stop until students no longer have to go into debt to be educated, and families no longer have to plunge into bankruptcy to pay medical bills. It will not stop until the corporate destruction of the ecosystem stops, and our relationships with each other and the planet are radically reconfigured. And that is why the elites, and the rotted and degenerate system of corporate power they sustain, are in trouble. That is why they keep asking what the demands are. They don't understand what is happening. They are deaf, dumb and blind.

"The world can't continue on its current path and survive," Ketchup told me. "That idea is selfish and blind. It's not sustainable. People all over the globe are suffering needlessly at our hands."

The occupation of Wall Street has formed an alternative community that defies the profit-driven hierarchical structures of corporate capitalism. If the police shut down the encampment in New York tonight, the power elite will still lose, for this vision and structure have been imprinted into the thousands of people who have passed through park, renamed Liberty Plaza by the protesters. The greatest gift the occupation has given us is a blueprint for how to fight back. And this blueprint is being transferred to cities and parks across the country.

"We get to the park," Ketchup says of the first day. "There's madness for a little while. There were a lot of people. They were using megaphones at first. Nobody could hear. Then someone says we should get into circles and talk about what needed to happen, what we thought we could accomplish. And so that's what we did. There was a note-taker in each circle. I don't know what happened with those notes, probably nothing, but it was a good start. One person at a time, airing your ideas. There was one person saying that he wasn't very hopeful about what we could accomplish here, that he wasn't very optimistic. And then my response was that, well, we have to be optimistic, because if anybody's going to get anything done, it's going be us here. People said different things about what our priorities should be. People were talking about the one-demand idea. Someone called for AIG executives to be prosecuted. There was someone who had come from Spain to be there, saying that she was here to help us avoid the mistakes that were made in Spain. It was a wide spectrum. Some had come because of their own personal suffering or what they saw in the world."

"After the circles broke I felt disheartened because it was sort of chaotic," she said. "I didn't have anybody there, so it was a little depressing. I didn't know what was going to happen."

"Over the past few months, people had been meeting in New York City general assembly," she said. "One of them is named Brooke. She's a professor of social ecology. She did my facilitation training. There's her and a lot of other people, students, school teachers, different people who were involved with that ... so they organized a general assembly."

"It's funny that the cops won't let us use megaphones, because it's to make our lives harder, but we actually end up making a much louder sound [with the "people's mic"] and I imagine it's much more annoying to the people around us," she said. "I had been in the back, unable to hear. I walked to different parts of the circle. I saw this man talking in short phrases and people were repeating them. I don't know whose idea it was, but that started on the first night. The first general assembly was a little chaotic because people had no idea ... a general assembly, what is this for? At first it was kind of grandstanding about what were our demands. Ending corporate personhood is one that has come up again and again as a favorite and. ... What ended up happening was, they said, OK, we're going to break into work groups.

"People were worried we were going to get kicked out of the park at 10 p.m. This was a major concern. There were tons of cops. I've heard that it's costing the city a ton of money to have constant surveillance on a bunch of peaceful protesters who aren't hurting anyone. With the people's mic, everything we do is completely transparent. We know there are undercover cops in the crowd. I think I was talking to one last night, but it's like, what are you trying to accomplish? We don't have any secrets."

"The undercover cops are the only ones who ask, 'Who's the leader?' " she said. "Presumably, if they know who our leaders are they can take them out. The fact is we have no leader. There's no leader, so there's nothing they can do.

"There was a woman [in the medics unit]. This guy was pretending to be a reporter. The first question he asks is, 'Who's the leader?' She goes, 'I'm the leader.' And he says, 'Oh yeah, what are you in charge of?' She says, 'I'm in a charge of everything.' He says, 'Oh yeah? What's your title?' She says 'God.'"

"So it's 9:30 p.m. and people are worried that they're going to try and rush us out of the camp," she said, referring back to the first day. "At 9:30 they break into work groups. I joined the group on contingency plans. The job of the bedding group was to find cardboard for people to sleep on. The contingency group had to decide what to do if they kick us out. The big decision we made was to announce to the group that if we were dispersed we were going to meet back at 10 a.m. the next day in the park. Another group was arts and culture. What was really cool was that we assumed we were going to be there more than one night. There was a food group. They were going dumpster diving. The direct action committee plans for direct, visible action like marches. There was a security team. It's security against the cops. The cops are the only people we think that might hurt us. The security team keeps people awake in shifts. They always have people awake."

The work groups make logistical decisions, and the general assembly makes large policy decisions.

"Work groups make their own decisions," Ketchup said. "For example, someone donated a laptop. And because I've been taking minutes I keep running around and asking, 'Does someone have a laptop I could borrow?' The media team, upon receiving that laptop, designated it to me for my use on behalf of the Internet committee. The computer isn't mine. When I go back to Chicago, I'm not going to take it. Right now I don't even know where it is. Someone else is using it. But so, after hearing this, people thought it had been gifted to me personally. People were upset by that. So a member of the Internet work group went in front of the group and said, 'This is a need of the committee. It's been put into Ketchup's care.' They explained that to the group, but didn't ask for consensus on it, because the committees are empowered. Some people might still think that choice was inappropriate. In the future, it might be handled differently."

Working groups blossomed in the following days. The media working group was joined by a welcome working group for new arrivals, a sanitation working group (some members of which go around the park on skateboards as they carry brooms), a legal working group with lawyers, an events working group, an education working group, medics, a facilitation working group (which trains new facilitators for the general assembly meetings), a public relations working group, and an outreach working group for like-minded communities as well as the general public. There is an Internet working group and an open source technology working group. The nearby McDonald's is the principal bathroom for the park after Burger King banned protesters from its facilities.

Caucuses also grew up in the encampment, including a "Speak Easy caucus." "That's a caucus I started," Ketchup said. "It is for a broad spectrum of individuals from female-bodied people who identify as women to male-bodied people who are not traditionally masculine. That's called the 'Speak Easy' caucus. I was just talking to a woman named Sharon who's interested in starting a caucus for people of color.

"A caucus gives people a safe space to talk to each other without people from the culture of their oppressors present. It gives them greater power together, so that if the larger group is taking an action that the caucus felt was specifically against their interests, then the caucus can block that action. Consensus can potentially still be reached after a caucus blocks something, but a block, or a 'paramount objection,' is really serious. You're saying that you are willing to walk out."

"We've done a couple of things so far," she said. "So, you know the live stream? The comments are moderated on the live stream. There are moderators who remove racist comments, comments that say 'I hate cops' or 'Kill cops.' They remove irrelevant comments that have nothing to do with the movement. There is this woman who is incredibly hardworking and intelligent. She has been the driving force of the finance committee. Her hair is half-blond and half-black. People were referring to her as "blond-black hottie." These comments weren't moderated, and at one point whoever was running the camera took the camera off her face and did a body scan. So, that was one of the first things the caucus talked about. We decided as a caucus that I would go to the moderators and tell them this is a serious problem. If you're moderating other offensive comments then you need to moderate these kinds of offensive comments."

The heart of the protest is the two daily meetings, held in the morning and the evening. The assemblies, which usually last about two hours, start with a review of process, which is open to change and improvement, so people are clear about how the assembly works. Those who would like to speak raise their hand and get on "stack."

"There's a stack keeper," Ketchup said. "The stack keeper writes down your name or some signifier for you. A lot of white men are the people raising their hands. So, anyone who is not apparently a white man gets to jump stack. The stack keeper will make note of the fact that the person who put their hand up was not a white man and will arrange the list so that it's not dominated by white men. People don't get called up in the same order as they raise their hand."

While someone is speaking, their words amplified by the people's mic, the crowd responds through hand signals.

"Putting your fingers up like this," she said, holding her hands up and wiggling her fingers, "means you like what you're hearing, or you're in agreement. Like this," she said, holding her hands level and wiggling her fingers, "means you don't like it so much. Fingers down, you don't like it at all; you're not in agreement. Then there's this triangle you make with your hand that says 'point of process.' So, if you think that something is not being respected within the process that we've agreed to follow then you can bring that up."

"You wait till you're called," she said. "These rules get abused all the time, but they are important. We start with agenda items, which are proposals or group discussions. Then working group report-backs, so you know what every working group is doing. Then we have general announcements. The agenda items have been brought to the facilitators by the working groups because you need the whole group to pay attention. Like last night, Legal brought up a discussion on bail: 'Can we agree that the money from the general funds can be allotted if someone needs bail?' And the group had to come to consensus on that. [It decided yes.] There's two co-facilitators, a stack keeper, a timekeeper, a vibes-person making sure that people are feeling OK, that people's voices aren't getting stomped on, and then if someone's being really disruptive, the vibes-person deals with them. There's a note-taker-I end up doing that a lot because I type very, very quickly. We try to keep the facilitation team one man, one woman, or one female-bodied person, one male-bodied person. When you facilitate multiple times it's rough on your brain. You end up having a lot of criticism thrown your way. You need to keep the facilitators rotating as much as possible. It needs to be a huge, huge priority to have a strong facilitation group."

"People have been yelled out of the park," she said. "Someone had a sign the other day that said 'Kill the Jew Bankers.' They got screamed out of the park. Someone else had a sign with the N-word on it. That person's sign was ripped up, but that person is apparently still in the park.

"We're trying to make this a space that everyone can join. This is something the caucuses are trying to really work on. We are having workshops to get people to understand their privilege."

But perhaps the most important rule adopted by the protesters is nonviolence and nonaggression against the police, no matter how brutal the police become.

"The cops, I think, maced those women in the face and expected the men and women around them to start a riot," Ketchup said. "They want a riot. They can deal with a riot. They cannot deal with nonviolent protesters with cameras."

I tell Ketchup I will bring her my winter sleeping bag. It is getting cold. She will need it. I leave her in a light drizzle and walk down Broadway. I pass the barricades, uniformed officers on motorcycles, the rows of paddy wagons and lines of patrol cars that block the streets into the financial district and surround the park. These bankers, I think, have no idea what they are up against.

 

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+90 # Adoregon 2011-10-10 09:21
But perhaps the most important rule adopted by the protesters is nonviolence and nonaggression against the police, no matter how brutal the police become.

This is, of course, key to the overthrow of the oligarchs/plutocrats whose profession is the exploitation of others.

Violence is the bottom line stock in trade of the exploiters who control the government for their own profit. They rig the system by owning the "lawmakers" and the injustice system. As long as people are cowed by the quasi-military police, they win. Once people (the 99%) recognize the absolute power of their numbers, the chimera supporting the corrupt system rapidly begins to collapse. This is because the corrupt system depends on fear and intimidation.

Stand up and resist or bend over and obey. The choice is yours every day.
 
 
+81 # Erdajean 2011-10-10 09:21
Magnificent, from beginning to end. Chris Hedges, and Ketchup and her cohort, are the heroes of Valley Forge and The Cowpens reborn. If America survives, in the mind-set in which it began, it will be because of people who quit thinking personal safety and comfort and went to the streets for the rest of us. My feelings of love and gratitude are boundless. And yes indeed, believer in Christ's teachings that I am, (NOT right-wing "Christian" -- an oxymoron), I thank God and pray for their deliverance from thugs hired by the oppressors. Clearly they can expect no help from the powers of their government. In fact, as I told my soldier grandson, "Do not be surprised if the first person you are ordered to shoot is your Grandma." Heading for the streets!
 
 
+58 # Vardette 2011-10-10 09:26
As I read I cried because this is so important and so much is at stake. I cried and was so moved by the determination of so many and hope they never give up. I wish I could e there but for personal reasons I can't. I had a bumper sticker made for my care though saying WE THE PEOPLE ARE TOO BIG TO FAIL.
WE THE PEOPLE IS IN THE SAME FONT AS THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. And thank you so much Chris Hedges for putting it all into words. We used to sing. We will no we will not be moved, like a tree that's standing by the water we will not be moved! Thank you all of you who are down there. I love you all
 
 
+38 # Activista 2011-10-10 09:53
great article - oligarchs do NOT understand how decentralized system works and how powerful it is.
"This is a goal the power elite cannot comprehend" - Cairo, New York, Athens - the same. Politicians/Bankers do NOT understand power of powerless - only power thorough money.
This money culture is coming to the end.
 
 
+29 # Vardette 2011-10-10 10:07
I emailed the Chris Hedges party to Obama. And the song goes-WE WILL NOT, WE WILL NOT BE MOVED, WE WILL NOT WE WILL NOT BE MOVED- JUST LIKE A TREE THAT'S STANDING BY THE WATER. WE WILL NOT BE MOVED! And I guess we need to keep singing until they listen!
 
 
0 # DavePrice 2011-10-12 18:02
There is an awsome short youtube titled I AM NOT MOVING - Short Film - Occupy Wall Street http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjfhOPCPJnE&feature=colike
 
 
+37 # artslave 2011-10-10 10:14
This is such an awesome article, Chris Hedges....and all of this reminds me of the late 1960's peace marches, only for a different generation with different goals, expanded goals which reflect a world wide 'vibe'...but one thing in common is that non violence is the main path to enable success.

And it will probably take years of changing hearts and minds, but this is something worthwhile...unlike raping the economy, depriving people of their civil rights, and generally treating the public like sheep to be shorn is for the 'elites'.
 
 
+30 # Barbara K 2011-10-10 10:26
Did the banksters honestly think they could keep on screwing us and stealing from us, and use every financial abuse they could think up against their customers and we, the people of the country, and not fight back? Ya, I think they must have known, but just don't care. We will make them care. We made them rich and we can take it away again too.
 
 
+50 # Susan W 2011-10-10 10:27
What a fantastic story of people being civilized and outspoken.

This constant concern of those in the MSM to find an "agenda" is amusing in a very sad way. To always have the need to distill human activities, thoughts and concerns down to one little 15-second sound bite further demonstrates one of the great failings of this society. It only takes 15 seconds to be made into a consumer but it takes a lifetime to become human.

Power to the people!
 
 
+11 # artslave 2011-10-10 10:44
see this story? it is just so much like what happened during the 60's protests....infiltrators! following up on Chris' story....
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/677522/right-wing_editor_brags_about_%22infiltrating%22_dc_protest_march/#paragraph6
 
 
-17 # grindermonkey 2011-10-10 16:34
The slackers will always be with us, they feed on drivel and thrive on the afterglow of burning dung.
 
 
+11 # Nel 2011-10-10 10:47
The main site of the protest should be at the headquarters of the MSM to cause the MS media to publish other opinions.
 
 
+21 # artslave 2011-10-10 10:47
And another piece just sent...this from Bill Maher in which Alan Grayson explains OWS in 37 seconds:

http://www.politicususa.com/en/alan-grayson-occupy-wall-street
 
 
+41 # Pwarren 2011-10-10 10:49
I am so proud of these people I could burst. If I had anyway to be there I would be. Even if I am old as the hills.
Go - children - go. If there is any force for good in this universe - may every bit of it be with you all.
Where can we send a bit of money to help them eat. Does anyone know?
 
 
+30 # ruttaro 2011-10-10 11:20
Everyone who cares about these issues and others like climate change or simply want the next generations to have a chance, should add our voices to those courageous youth who dare to confront the Masters of the Universe. I see them as saying that they will chart their destiny as they see fit, that they will stake a claim on their future and not bow to the power elites rapacious and unfettered greed and the blatant contempt they have for the other 99 percent of the people. We should encourage our students an children to take to the streets and join the movement.
"Blessed are the young for they see the bright possibility and radiant hope that the old no longer believe possible because failure dimmed their eye".
 
 
+20 # noitall 2011-10-10 12:10
It is so ironic that a criticism of the media is that it's "just a bunch of unemployed young people". Exactly, unemployed with no future. The Plutocrats and their accomplices, our elected "Representatives ", have sold out our future and now attack the programs that would give them a chance. In a mere three life times, these "extractors" these self-acclaimed "risk takers" have taken this country from pristine to pillaged. Our natural resources and critical environmental habitats have been polluted, eroded, plowed under, erased. Our bodies are filled with ticking time bombs of cancer our country has the highest cancer rate in the world. Our foods are poison and empty calories. They take it all and give nothing back including our means to make a living. We are the world consumers in this sick system and they take our means to earn money to continue consuming; its akin to eating the goose that laid the golden egg. They live apart from us in gated communities, in plastic cultures, like kings and queens in their own minds. They are a sad lot and would rather die than change their suicidal direction that threatens to drag us all down with them. Our youth have decided to not let this happen. I am again in the street after 40 years and it feels RIGHT. IT FEELS GOOD. If we must, we will live like Cubans, not Hatians. There are still ignorant middle-class people, I hope they see the light.
 
 
-43 # JAB 2011-10-10 12:15
Hedges is enthusiastic, but the piece isn't well reported. He should know better than to rely on a single source, particularly one too ditzy to bring a sleeping bag.
 
 
+8 # jcdav 2011-10-10 16:04
Quoting
Hedges is enthusiastic, but the piece isn't well reported. He should know better than to rely on a single source, particularly one too ditzy to bring a sleeping bag.


Well, at least she showed and stuck...
 
 
+16 # grindermonkey 2011-10-10 16:42
Reread the first paragraph: "She had a tent, a rolling suitcase, 40 dollars' worth of food, the graphic version of Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States" and a SLEEPING BAG." We know better than to rely on an unreliable reader.
 
 
+14 # coffeewriter 2011-10-10 16:42
Er - you've made a fool of yourself. In the first paragraph it says she brought a sleeping bag. If you don't read the article properly, then you shouldn't really comment on it (Hedges offered to bring her a WINTER sleeping bag for when it gets cold).

Second, its more of an opinion piece than a report on the protest. You can get the clues to this from Hedge's language regarding the imminent downfall of the elite. Further his 'source' is merely describing events and systems within the protest - I hardly think he needs to find other sources to 'back up' her tales of the park!
 
 
+1 # joestecher 2011-10-13 12:54
Did you read the piece? First paragraph "... and a sleeping bag." Before you cast aspersions, use your head and think afer thoroughly reaading the article.
 
 
+18 # iris 2011-10-10 13:18
marie Antoinette and king Louis didnt get the importance of the rebellion till the guillotine arrived.
 
 
+3 # artslave 2011-10-10 19:50
I wonder how many people know that King Louis lost his head because he'd bankrupted his treasury, not for Marie, but for the American rebels...he made our freedom possible by sending all of his best...literally...and paid with his life. And Marie never did say 'let them eat cake'...that was just some 18th century rightwing blogger!
 
 
+2 # joestecher 2011-10-13 12:58
I disagree with your characterizatio n of OWS as "anarchy." Anarchy means no rules, mayhem and chaos. This is true, grassroots democracy in action. Thats why the oligarchs don't recognize it!
 
 
+12 # Capn Canard 2011-10-10 13:54
What I find most exciting about OWS is that it is anarchy in real time. No leaders, no political affiliation, and not beholden to the set choices of Democrat or Republican. It is just localized democracy in action. A great model for how government should behave.
 
 
+14 # John Locke 2011-10-10 14:20
I agree these bankers have no idea what they are up against, and neither do our elected officials
 
 
+5 # badbenski 2011-10-10 15:09
Someone commented that as they read they cried. I wonder if they're willing to bleed as well because those on top are not going to go away easily. I was a young man in the Sixties and though, in hindsight, it may not have been appropriate to take up the gun - in spite of the dire issues on the table - my generation was willing to bleed for the cuase of liberty & justice. How could we not? After our parents and teachers paid such a terrbile price in WW II. Now, the very nature and existence of our Federal Republic & democracy hang in the balance and I'm not sure the young and thirty-somethings have the stuff necessary to resist unto blood. Many of their advesaries are of my generation & while they've sold their souls to Mammon, they're not ones to surrender easily. And remember, they have their hands on the security and police apparatus of this Country and they're quite willing to utilize them to attempt to make We The People bend to their will. If, under some pretext, they come to collect our weapons, we'll have a decision to make, won't we? Think things aren't that bad? Think it hasn't gotten that far yet? Just watch, and while you watch consider whether or not you wish to live life on your knees and turn over such a lifestyle to your children. But what do I know? I'm just an old guy who used to be a bit of an urban guerilla in my misspent youth.
 
 
+6 # grindermonkey 2011-10-10 16:47
They have already bled us dry and as fighter who has seen far too much blood I know when the cause is still afoot.
 
 
0 # badbenski 2011-10-10 21:58
Quoting
They have already bled us dry and as fighter who has seen far too much blood I know when the cause is still afoot.


I pray that you are correct, but many things tell me that it may be too late to raise protests to a godless bunch of greedy fiends with seared consciences. They're prepared to beat up many, imprison many, en masse if need be... and then what?
 
 
+10 # NOMINAE 2011-10-10 20:39
So what are you saying here, badbenski ? I am also of your generation. I do not think that these fine protesters need to hear: "Be AFRAID, be very AFRAID".

Members of our generation were indeed willing (and some did) go to prison for their beliefs. They went to PRISON. These young people do not need weapons. Gandhi, not Rambo, best serves as their model. The "System" is *more* than ready to take on yahoos with weapons. The "System" is proving that it doesn't know *what* to do with "non-central, non-violent, leaderless power".

If nothing else these young people and their compatriots all over the world are *quite* likely to design and even demonstrate an *entirely* new concept base for world economics, politics, and basic human interaction. They are to be applauded, not "darkly warned". Their atmosphere needs to be as free from fear as it is possible to make it. If you can't wish them godspeed, my brother, at least spare them the wet blanket.
 
 
0 # badbenski 2011-10-10 21:55
Quoting
So what are you saying here, badbenski ? I am also of your generation. I do not think that these fine protesters need to hear: "Be AFRAID, be very AFRAID".

Members of our generation were indeed willing (and some did) go to prison for their beliefs. They went to PRISON. These young people do not need weapons. Gandhi, not Rambo, best serves as their model. The "System" is *more* than ready to take on yahoos with weapons. The "System" is proving that it doesn't know *what* to do with "non-central, non-violent, leaderless power".

If nothing else these young people and their compatriots all over the world are *quite* likely to design and even demonstrate an *entirely* new concept base for world economics, politics, and basic human interaction. They are to be applauded, not "darkly warned". Their atmosphere needs to be as free from fear as it is possible to make it. If you can't wish them godspeed, my brother, at least spare them the wet blanket.

Yes, they are ready to take on armed opposition and generally speaking, to take that approach piecemeal will play right into their hands. But, a people needs to be of the consciousness whereby they can sense when protests are futile and other means are required, or they risk being led off to the ovens like so many of the Jews of Europe.
 
 
+3 # NOMINAE 2011-10-10 22:38
@ badbenski

It is far too late for the general citizenry of the United States to enter into an arms race with the American Military-Industrial Complex. We all saw how well that strategy worked out for the former Soviet Union.
 
 
0 # badbenski 2011-10-14 22:57
Quoting
@ badbenski

It is far too late for the general citizenry of the United States to enter into an arms race with the American Military-Industrial Complex. We all saw how well that strategy worked out for the former Soviet Union.


Arms race? The American public outguns the combined police & military forces many times over. We just lack little things like unit cohesion, focus, a plan for defense (let alone offense)... you know, stuff that wins conflicts. The reason we're toast is because we don't know which way the wind is blowing. Pay no attention to my sword rattling, this thing is going out with a whimper. Pathetic!
 
 
+9 # futhark 2011-10-10 15:11
Plutocrats have exploited the free market system and the principle of individual rights to serve themselves ever greater portions of the economic pie without any thought that their behavior was in any manner unethical. Now they must face up to the logical consequences of their unchecked greed. It is far past the time that needed changes can be made without economic and social dislocations.

Revolutions are never painless, but they can be nonviolent. Equitable resource allotments need to be made not only across all regions and groups of people, but with a consciousness that nonrenewable resources that are wantonly expended today will not be available to future generations.
 
 
+4 # grindermonkey 2011-10-10 16:58
Keep in mind that these are faceless ravagers whose logic does not extend to consequences only to short term results. The "equitable resource allotments" you advocate like all number games will eventually run out - a consequence to be certain for this generation.
 
 
+4 # Activista 2011-10-10 21:18
"Revolutions are never painless, but they can be nonviolent"
agree - this is very important - violent revolutions tend to bring the mud from the bottom to the surface.
But talking to the yuppie generation - consumerism - NOT understanding nature, other cultures - going to the Wall Mart instead on the hike ...
Maximize short term profit ...
On other side ALL the comments above are so encouraging - one must be optimistic that change will come.
 
 
+15 # rsnfan 2011-10-10 16:53
I am so proud of the protesters. You are doing a great job.
I am a retired school teacher and I wish I could be there.
I am not an old hippie and I am not an unemployed young person. I am a person who cares about this country and the
people who live here. I am pretty well informed and fear for the future of this country is something isn't done.
GO PROTESTERS.
 
 
+15 # futhark 2011-10-10 19:10
Great work, protesters!
I am also a retired teacher. As a UC Berkeley alumnus who marched in many an anti-Vietnam War demonstration, I applaud the current generation of young adults who are willing to travel far and endure much inconvenience for the sake of standing up to the plutocrats who treat the common people as chattels.
 
 
+1 # joestecher 2011-10-13 13:12
rsnfan - i am of retirement age, but cannot for financial reasons. i too am an "old hippie," reasonably well-informed, fearful for the future and wish i too could join the young folks in the park. you are the liveblood of this once-great country and its hope for returning to greatness. please, maintain your nonviolence, keep your heads high, and know that there are some "old foggies" rooting for you ... and for the country we once held high.
 
 
+3 # Marsha 2011-10-10 19:57
Thanks for this article, it helps to understand the dynamics out here in the midlands, though always have understood the intent and the need!
 
 
+4 # NOMINAE 2011-10-10 20:17
@ Susan W

Beautifully, *POWERFULLY*, Sublimely Spoken ! Thank you *so* much !
 
 
+4 # NOMINAE 2011-10-10 22:34
The ethos of the time period itself calls forth greatness in the human being. No present historical figure would have been noticed out of the context of their own time period. The generation representing this new movement will succeed not because they were well-trained and well-prepared for what they have undertaken to do, but because the very ethos of the time period will draw forth from them the greatness contained, but often left unexpressed, in every human being on the planet. Their very future has been looted. They have no choice but to find a way to have it restored to them.
 
 
+6 # kelvynjkr 2011-10-11 07:06
A next step could be for the protesters to form their own local community currency, OWS coin/dollar/penny/cent, to be used to buy and exchange all their needs as part of the assemblies in all the cities and towns. This move would be a step towards undermining the 'dollar plutocrats' and establishing an alternative system of money.

go to www.kelvynrichards.com
 
 
+1 # chantlaca 2011-10-11 07:41
Econogenics:

The philosophy and practice of global economic elites to perpetuate the domination of geo-political regimes of expropriation and exploitation of the natural resources and labor of the earth and humanity for the benefit of the few, at the expense of an unsustainable ecological relationship among human societies and with the natural world.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/users/chantlaca/blog/2011/07/econogenics
 
 
+1 # WLawpsh 2011-10-11 10:29
Chris, you say there is "a legal working group with lawyers." Lawyers steer people away from challenging the Supreme Court's treasonable enforcement of global sovereignty based upon the Court's intentional obstruction and ignoring of the constitution's commerce, defence and treaty clauses. Beware and be wary of lawyers. Please.
 
 
+4 # Anarchist 23 2011-10-11 16:47
The protestors at OWS are brave and good and perhaps the tip of the critical mass of humanity which with new consciousness will usher in a better conception of human society-one based on human need rather than human greed. Since at the moment I can't be there, I am putting my energies into local things like sorting recyclables for our small local rural recycling-the only one of its kind here and helping as a volunteer firefighter even tho I am in my 60s.The 1% have stolen our land, oceans,forests, food,farms, jobs, futures. OWS certainly does have an agenda!
 
 
0 # NOMINAE 2011-10-11 19:18
Word to Ketchup -

Your movement robs itself of a valuable resource when it elides the white males who wish to speak. This is not changing the dynamic, this is simply reversing the dynamic.

You may gain advantage from Dr. King's ringing remark about judging all "not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character". These white males are not the white males that own and perpetrate the abusive system. You literally perpetrate what you most seek to overcome when you "edit these young men out" of the conversation.
 
 
0 # orionoir 2011-10-24 06:46
The goal to people like Ketchup is very, very clear. It can be articulated in one word - REBELLION. These protesters have not come to work within the system. They are not pleading with Congress for electoral reform. They know electoral politics is a farce and have found another way to be heard and exercise power. They have no faith, nor should they, in the political system or the two major political parties. They know the press will not amplify their voices, and so they created a press of their own. They know the economy serves the oligarchs, so they formed their own communal system. This movement is an effort to take our country back.


to attribute unconmprehendin gness to the elite is a grave error. even now, we elite understand and are respondingly effectively, albeit insidiously.
 

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